[6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6

[Gav]

Hi Trent,

hope your not confusing him with me :0)

I certainly haven't done much lately

Gav...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trent Lloyd" <trent@irc-desk.net>
To: "Bill Manning" <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6


| At 05:50 AM 4/03/2003 -0800, Bill Manning wrote:
| >  Once Gavin gets the paperwork processed, WAIX will have a v6
| >  prefix delegated from ep.net for WAIX participants to use for
| >  native peering.
|
| really? cool i didnt know he got this far.
| i suspected he hadn't done much at all actually
|
|
| >% We have a local internet exchange in Perth called "WAIX" and i am
hoping to
| >% get some ipv6 transport happening over that
| >% The founder/guy who runs it has expressed interest but naturally he is
a
| >% busy man and since not that many people are into it i guess its not
high on
| >% his to-do list
| >%
| >% My local uni has connected through aarnet, and you can get a 'tunnel'
from
| >% 6bone@progsoc.org.au (email) who come of [i forget]
| >%
| >% As you said, the 4 TLA owners there are unlikely to do much - a shame.
| >%
| >% Is it possible for a 'group' to get a TLA?
| >% maybe an informal associated of people from random ISPs and just people
got
| >% together and got a TLA which they could do stuff with?
| >% I'd be interested.
| >%
| >% At 02:23 PM 3/03/2003 +1000, Dan Reeder wrote:
| >% >let me expand on my point below -
| >% >according to sixxs, there's four TLAs in australia: Connect, Telstra,
NTT,
| >% >and AARNET
| >% >
| >% >from what I can determine, Connect has been idle since it's inception
in
| >% >1999; Telstra has a boss who thinks packet switching is an immature
| >% >technology, not to mention the fact that their left hand doesn't know
what
| >% >the right hand is doing in an organisation that big; NTT seems to be
| >for big
| >% >business ($$) only; and Aarnet for educational institutions only.
| >% >
| >% >does anyone who lives in a country similarly constrained have any
ideas
| >% >about how to get things progressing?
| >% >
| >% >dan
| >% >----- Original Message -----
| >% >From: "Dan Reeder" <dan@reeder.name>
| >% >To: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>; "Jeroen Massar"
| >% ><jeroen@unfix.org>
| >% >Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
| >% >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:31 AM
| >% >Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
| >% >
| >% >
| >% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
| >% >multiple
| >% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
| >% > >
| >% > > and, dare i say it, in each major region of the world too?
| >% > > i'm yet to see a non-tunnelled solution for the home user in .au
| >% > >
| >% > > dan
| >% > >
| >% > > ----- Original Message -----
| >% > > From: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>
| >% > > To: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
| >% > > Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
| >% > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:34 AM
| >% > > Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
| >% > >
| >% > >
| >% > > >
| >% > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:02:32 Jeroen Massar wrote:
| >% > > > > As an end user you will need to push your upstream, the people
who
| >% > > > > you pay, along with a load of other people to get them to do
IPv6.
| >% > > > > If they don't and you still want it, go to another ISP.
| >% > > >
| >% > > > And if there is no available ISP?  As I said before, saying 'give
me
| >% >IPv6
| >% > > > transit or I'll disconnect from the Internet' is not a credible
| >threat.
| >% > > >
| >% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
| >% >multiple
| >% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
| >% > > > --
| >% > > > Jonathan Guthrie (jguthrie@brokersys.com)
| >% > > > Sto pro veritate
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