[6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6

[Trent Lloyd]

At 05:50 AM 4/03/2003 -0800, Bill Manning wrote:
>  Once Gavin gets the paperwork processed, WAIX will have a v6
>  prefix delegated from ep.net for WAIX participants to use for
>  native peering.

really? cool i didnt know he got this far.
i suspected he hadn't done much at all actually


>% We have a local internet exchange in Perth called "WAIX" and i am hoping to
>% get some ipv6 transport happening over that
>% The founder/guy who runs it has expressed interest but naturally he is a
>% busy man and since not that many people are into it i guess its not high on
>% his to-do list
>%
>% My local uni has connected through aarnet, and you can get a 'tunnel' from
>% 6bone@progsoc.org.au (email) who come of [i forget]
>%
>% As you said, the 4 TLA owners there are unlikely to do much - a shame.
>%
>% Is it possible for a 'group' to get a TLA?
>% maybe an informal associated of people from random ISPs and just people got
>% together and got a TLA which they could do stuff with?
>% I'd be interested.
>%
>% At 02:23 PM 3/03/2003 +1000, Dan Reeder wrote:
>% >let me expand on my point below -
>% >according to sixxs, there's four TLAs in australia: Connect, Telstra, NTT,
>% >and AARNET
>% >
>% >from what I can determine, Connect has been idle since it's inception in
>% >1999; Telstra has a boss who thinks packet switching is an immature
>% >technology, not to mention the fact that their left hand doesn't know what
>% >the right hand is doing in an organisation that big; NTT seems to be 
>for big
>% >business ($$) only; and Aarnet for educational institutions only.
>% >
>% >does anyone who lives in a country similarly constrained have any ideas
>% >about how to get things progressing?
>% >
>% >dan
>% >----- Original Message -----
>% >From: "Dan Reeder" <dan@reeder.name>
>% >To: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>; "Jeroen Massar"
>% ><jeroen@unfix.org>
>% >Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
>% >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:31 AM
>% >Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
>% >
>% >
>% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
>% >multiple
>% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
>% > >
>% > > and, dare i say it, in each major region of the world too?
>% > > i'm yet to see a non-tunnelled solution for the home user in .au
>% > >
>% > > dan
>% > >
>% > > ----- Original Message -----
>% > > From: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>
>% > > To: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
>% > > Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
>% > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:34 AM
>% > > Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
>% > >
>% > >
>% > > >
>% > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:02:32 Jeroen Massar wrote:
>% > > > > As an end user you will need to push your upstream, the people who
>% > > > > you pay, along with a load of other people to get them to do IPv6.
>% > > > > If they don't and you still want it, go to another ISP.
>% > > >
>% > > > And if there is no available ISP?  As I said before, saying 'give me
>% >IPv6
>% > > > transit or I'll disconnect from the Internet' is not a credible 
>threat.
>% > > >
>% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
>% >multiple
>% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
>% > > > --
>% > > > Jonathan Guthrie (jguthrie@brokersys.com)
>% > > > Sto pro veritate
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