[6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6

Bill Manning bmanning@ISI.EDU
Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:50:49 -0800 (PST)


 Once Gavin gets the paperwork processed, WAIX will have a v6
 prefix delegated from ep.net for WAIX participants to use for
 native peering.




% We have a local internet exchange in Perth called "WAIX" and i am hoping to 
% get some ipv6 transport happening over that
% The founder/guy who runs it has expressed interest but naturally he is a 
% busy man and since not that many people are into it i guess its not high on 
% his to-do list
% 
% My local uni has connected through aarnet, and you can get a 'tunnel' from 
% 6bone@progsoc.org.au (email) who come of [i forget]
% 
% As you said, the 4 TLA owners there are unlikely to do much - a shame.
% 
% Is it possible for a 'group' to get a TLA?
% maybe an informal associated of people from random ISPs and just people got 
% together and got a TLA which they could do stuff with?
% I'd be interested.
% 
% At 02:23 PM 3/03/2003 +1000, Dan Reeder wrote:
% >let me expand on my point below -
% >according to sixxs, there's four TLAs in australia: Connect, Telstra, NTT,
% >and AARNET
% >
% >from what I can determine, Connect has been idle since it's inception in
% >1999; Telstra has a boss who thinks packet switching is an immature
% >technology, not to mention the fact that their left hand doesn't know what
% >the right hand is doing in an organisation that big; NTT seems to be for big
% >business ($$) only; and Aarnet for educational institutions only.
% >
% >does anyone who lives in a country similarly constrained have any ideas
% >about how to get things progressing?
% >
% >dan
% >----- Original Message -----
% >From: "Dan Reeder" <dan@reeder.name>
% >To: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>; "Jeroen Massar"
% ><jeroen@unfix.org>
% >Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
% >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:31 AM
% >Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
% >
% >
% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
% >multiple
% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
% > >
% > > and, dare i say it, in each major region of the world too?
% > > i'm yet to see a non-tunnelled solution for the home user in .au
% > >
% > > dan
% > >
% > > ----- Original Message -----
% > > From: "Jonathan Guthrie" <jguthrie@brokersys.com>
% > > To: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
% > > Cc: "'Michael Sturtz'" <Michael.Sturtz@paccar.com>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
% > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:34 AM
% > > Subject: Re: [6bone] Getting ISPs to use IPv6
% > >
% > >
% > > >
% > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:02:32 Jeroen Massar wrote:
% > > > > As an end user you will need to push your upstream, the people who
% > > > > you pay, along with a load of other people to get them to do IPv6.
% > > > > If they don't and you still want it, go to another ISP.
% > > >
% > > > And if there is no available ISP?  As I said before, saying 'give me
% >IPv6
% > > > transit or I'll disconnect from the Internet' is not a credible threat.
% > > >
% > > > It is premature to schedule the end of the 6bone until there are
% >multiple
% > > > dialup and broadband providers in the USA.
% > > > --
% > > > Jonathan Guthrie (jguthrie@brokersys.com)
% > > > Sto pro veritate
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