pTLA request for RMNET - review closes 23 April 2002

[Matteo Tescione]

Hi to all, this is the first time that i see a new concept:
> Fortunatly these folks are requesting a pTLA so they can soon announce
> their
> block over as many tunnels they can lay their hands on and improve their
> latency and uhaul packeting.

I do agree with this "new concept"...
now my question: what's wrong if someone in italy has a tunnel with someone
in Us or Canada or elsewhere? I'm in italy and I have several tunnel around
europe, and if sometimes rtt is over 100ms I can't see a big problem cause
ipv6 load is not so high....

Just my 1 damn euro cent...
Matteo Tescione


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: "'6BONE List'" <6bone@ISI.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:05 AM
Subject: RE: pTLA request for RMNET - review closes 23 April 2002


> Michel Py wrote:
>
> > Pekka,
> >
> > >> Bob Fink wrote:
> > >> If you think there is something wrong with this, please say more.
> >
> > > Pekka Savola wrote:
> > > If I was serious about experimenting with IPv6, I sure would not
> > > go overseas to find someone who might be willing to slice off a
> > > part of a block.  However, if I was not serious, I wouldn't care if
> > > all my IPv6 traffic to European countries crossed the
> > Atlantic twice.
> >
> > I have to disagree with you on this point. I am in
> > California, and the first tunnel I got was from Viagénie in
> > Québec. Yes, I could have asked Hurricane Electric, or I
> > could have asked Bob Fink, or I could have asked Cisco.
> >
> > Who cares if my average RTT to Viagénie is 92ms? Not me.
> > There are ways to adjust network latency in Quake v6 (the
> > only IPv6 real application as of today, I think?)
> I personally use on day by day basis, IPv6 enabled:
>  - SSH (PuTTY :)
>  - SMTP
>  - Quake 1 + 2*
>  - HTTP
>  - X
>
> Can't say IMAP unfortunatly, I will have to wait till my Outlooky
> understands it.
> Serverside (courier ;) does it already though. But mail goes out and
> comes in over IPv6 whenever possible.
> And many other applications go used unnoticed.
>
> * = http://games.concepts.nl, which will be native quite soon from
> Amsterdam to Breda (almost cross country ;)
> QuakeWorld & Quake2 patches provided courtesy of Viagenie!
>
> Oh and I *do* care about latency... If you are doing transatlantic
> _twice_ you have at least in a sunnyweather condition 2x 80ms.
> That's 160ms already, typing (ssh), quaking, remote X'ing etc with 160ms
> is not nice :)
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > As far as I am concerned, the geographical location of a pTLA
> > does not matter (I have a tunnel with UK, too). There are
> > situations where the link to someone geographically close
> > will be worse than someone at the other end of a continent.
> > To some extent, I think that cross-ocean tunnels are a
> > guarantee that the 6bone will not be used for production.
> You've got a point there :)
> Though I think most people will profit from good latency.
> That's why one can take multiple tunnels and do some nice routing
> based on that -> testing, experimenting -> <fillinyour>bone :)
>
>
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
>