pTLA request for IRCD - review closes 12 Feb 01

[Guardini Ivano]

Hi all,

I fully agree to assign a pTLA to IRCD and Edisontel, and CSELT will work 
with them to make some BGP4+ tests and operations to overcome the lack
of expertise they have in this field.

But reading their pTLA request I noticed a couple of statements I would like
to clarify.

The pTLA request should not be motivated by the start of IPv6 activities
within
MIX (Milan Internet Exchange). If MIX will go to experiment IPv6, MIX s.r.l.
(the
company that manages the exchange) should better ask a pTLA on its own,
following the example of other Internet Exchanges in Europe and US.

MIX has several Italian ISPs as members. It is not correct to say that
Edisontel is the only MIX member to have more than 3 months of experience 
within the 6Bone. In fact, among the other members, Telecom Italia (through
CSELT)
has a 4 year experience on the 6Bone and is starting a field trial based on
a
recently assigned production subTLA.

Bye,
--Ivano


> ----------
> From: 	Bob Fink[SMTP:fink@es.net]
> Sent: 	luned́ 29 gennaio 2001 18.34
> To: 	6BONE List
> Subject: 	pTLA request for IRCD - review closes 12 Feb 01
> 
> 6bone Folk,
> 
> IRCD has requested a pTLA allocation on behalf of Edisontel in Italy. The 
> open review period for this will close 12 Feb 2001. Please send any 
> comments to me or the list.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob
> 
> ======================================
> >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:36:15 +0100 (CET)
> >From: Max Gargani <slash@ircd.it>
> >To: Bob Fink <fink@es.net>
> >Subject: Re: pTLA request
> >
> >7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites
> >
> >    The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. It
> >    should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are
> >    expected to provide production quality backbone network services for
> >    the 6Bone.
> >
> >    1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months
> >       qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit.
> During
> >       the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally
> >       providing the following:
> >
> >       a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their
> >          ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each
> >          tunnel that the Applicant has.
> >
> >We have a fully maintained entry on 6Bone database:
> >ipv6-site:    IRCD
> >origin:       AS5609
> >descr:        IRCd Italia
> >country:      IT
> >prefix:       3FFE:1001:200::/44
> >application:  ping ping.ipv6.ircd.it
> >application:  irc irc6.ircd.it
> >application:  www www.ipv6.ircd.it
> >tunnel:       IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> 6bone-gw3.ipv6.cselt.it
> >CSELT STA
> >TIC
> >tunnel:       IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> route.ipv6.tobit.com TOBIT
> >STATIC
> >tunnel:       IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it ->
> >exchange4-e0.ltn.panservice.it PA
> >NSERVICE STATIC
> >tunnel:       IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> rap.viagenie.qc.ca
> VIAGENIE
> >STATI
> >C
> >contact:      MAX1-6BONE
> >remarks:      ipv6-site is operational since March 2000
> >               Tunnel Broker Available
> >remarks:      This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> >registry
> >url:
> >mnt-by:       IRCD-MNT
> >changed:      max@ipng.it 20000321
> >changed:      max@ipng.it 20000618
> >changed:      max@ipng.it 20000918
> >changed:      auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> >source:       6BONE
> >
> >person:       Massimiliano Gargani
> >address:      Edisontel S.p.A.
> >               Foro Buonaparte, 31
> >               I-20121 MILANO
> >               Italy
> >phone:        +39 02 6222.1
> >fax-no:       +39 02 6222.8006
> >e-mail:       max@ipng.it
> >nic-hdl:      MAX1-6BONE
> >remarks:      This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> >registry
> >notify:       max@ipng.it
> >changed:      max@ipng.it 20000718
> >changed:      auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> >source:       6BONE
> >
> >person:       Sergio Chiesa
> >address:      Edisontel S.p.A.
> >               Foro Buonaparte, 31
> >               I-20121 MILANO
> >               Italy
> >phone:        +39 02 6222.1
> >fax-no:       +39 02 6222.8006
> >e-mail:       s.chiesa@ipng.it
> >nic-hdl:      SC2-6BONE
> >remarks:      This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> >registry
> >changed:      s.chiesa@ipng.it 20000717
> >changed:      auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> >source:       6BONE
> >
> >person:       Andrea Colangelo
> >address:      Edisontel S.p.A.
> >               Foro Buonaparte, 31
> >               I-20121 MILANO
> >               Italy
> >phone:        +39 02 6222.1
> >fax-no:       +39 02 6222.8006
> >e-mail:       a.colangelo@ipng.it
> >nic-hdl:      AC1-6BONE
> >remarks:      This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> >registry
> >changed:      a.colangelo@ipng.it 20000717
> >changed:      auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> >source:       6BONE
> >
> >
> >       b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity
> >          between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate
> >          connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6
> >          pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone
> >          Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request.
> >
> >I haven't any IPv6 BGP peers because my address is part of CSELT address
> >space and I can't annouce it to anyone.
> >Anyway I have severals IPv4 BGP peers. You can check on RIPE database for
> >AS15589
> >
> >       c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int)
> >          entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host
> >          system.
> >
> >Our DNS is ready for AAAA and ip6.int. Is autoritative for
> >3ffe:1001:200::/44
> >
> >You can check on ns.irc6.org
> >
> >       d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system
> >          providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the
> >          Applicant's IPv6 services.  This server must be IPv6 pingable.
> >
> >You can check www.ipv6.ircd.it (IPv6 only). On that site is described all
> >what I did with IPv6
> >
> >I can't grant the reachbility of the sity because in the last week I've
> >noticed
> >a great unstability of CSELT IPv6 network
> >
> >    2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide
> >       "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must
> >       provide a statement and information in support of this claim.
> >       This MUST include the following:
> >
> >       a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with
> >          person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object
> >          for the pTLA applicant.
> >
> >The our ipv6 staff is composed by:
> >
> >Max Gargani (me) MAX1-6bone
> >Sergio Chiesa SC2-6bone
> >Andrea Colangelo AC1-6bone
> >       b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support
> >          staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the
> >          ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant.
> >
> >The common e-mail address is ipv6@ipng.it
> >
> >    3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that
> >       would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a
> >       major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus
> >       of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in
> >       support this claim.
> >
> >Edisontel (the company I rappresent in this request) is a Telco and ISP
> >here in
> >Italy.
> >The pTLA will serve all other our peers in Milan Internet Exchange N.A.P.
> >
> >At the MIX we have created an IPv6 working group, and because I'm the
> only
> >to have at least 3 month on 6Bone, I'm asking for pTLA
> >All other peers are the major ISP here in Italy:
> >
> >At the working group will partecipate Edisontel, Telecom Italia,
> >Infostrada,
> >Cable & Wireless Italy, Blixer, I.Net and many others
> >
> >    4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone
> >       operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its
> >       application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone
> >       operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the
> >       6Bone backbone and user community.
> >
> >    When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply
> >    to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to
> >    the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the
> >    criteria above.
> >
> >We agree to the present and future 6Bone policies and the pTLA will be
> >used
> >only for experimental purpose
> >
> >
> >8. 6Bone Operations Group
> >
> >    The 6Bone Operations Group is the group in charge of monitoring and
> >    policing adherence to the current rules. Membership in the 6Bone
> >    Operations Group is mandatory for, and restricted to, sites connected
> >    to the 6Bone.
> >
> >    The 6Bone Operations Group is currently defined by those members of
> >    the existing 6Bone mailing list who represent sites participating in
> >    the 6Bone. Therefore it is incumbent on relevant site contacts to
> >    join the 6Bone mailing list. Instructions on how to join the list are
> >    maintained on the 6Bone web site at < http://www.6bone.net>.
> >
> >We are already subscribed on the 6bone IPv6 mailing-list
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >.. Massimiliano Gargani
> >.. Access/Network Engineer
> >.. EdisonTel S.p.A. - Italy
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Bob Fink wrote:
> >
> > > Max,
> > >
> > > You need to respond to the pTLA request form available from the 6bone
> home
> > > page:
> > >
> > > <http://www.6bone.net/6bone_pTLA_rqst.html>
> > >
> > >
> > > I would specifically call your attention to the BGP4+ and the
> community of
> > > users requirements. However, please review all questions and answer
> them as
> > > asked.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > ===============================================
> > > At 05:24 PM 1/19/2001 +0100, Max Gargani wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I have a v6 lab in Italy connected through CSELT. I have the address
> space
> > > >3ffe:1001:200::/44 and I'm experimenting in IPv6 since march 2000.
> > > >
> > > >I have several static tunnel around the world, an IPv6 IRC server
> linked
> > > >to IRCnet (the largest IRC net in europe), a tunnel broker service
> for
> > > >dynamic IP users. Web and FTP (ipv6/ipv4).
> > > >
> > > >You can obtain my details quering the 6bone database.
> > > >
> > > >My nic-handle is MAX1-6BONE
> > > >the ipv6-site is IRCD
> > > >
> > > >I'm asking to become pTLA. I have severals peering IPv4 in twn
> italian
> > > >N.A.P. in Milan and Rome.
> > > >
> > > >My DNS is ready for AAAA and ip6.int and is autoritative for prefix
> > > >3ffe:1001:200::/44
> > > >
> > > >The other 2 person who are working with me at IPv6 development are:
> > > >
> > > >Sergio Chiesa (SC2-6BONE)
> > > >Andrea Colangelo (AC1-6BONE)
> > > >
> > > >the common e-mail address is ipv6@ipng.it
> > > >
> > > >The pTLA will part of an IPv6 working group to which take parte most
> of
> > > >the Milan Internet Exchange peers.
> > > >
> > > >I used IRCD as ipv6-site because I start IPv6 experimentation with
> IRC
> > > >servers and so I preferred register it for Italian IRC community, but
> now
> > > >I request the pTLA as Edisontel S.p.A. (ASn 15589 network:
> 62.94.0.0/16)
> > > >
> > > >I hope this is enough to become pTLA.
> > > >
> > > >Let me know.
> > > >
> > > >TIA,
> > > >
> > > >.. Massimiliano Gargani
> > > >.. Access/Network Engineer
> > > >.. EdisonTel S.p.A. - Italy
> > >
> > >
> 
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