pTLA request for IRCD - review closes 12 Feb 01
Bob Fink
fink@es.net
Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:52:11 -0800
Ivano,
Max Gargani has made this point to me to clarify this as well.
Thanks,
Bob
At 10:06 AM 2/7/2001 +0100, Guardini Ivano wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I fully agree to assign a pTLA to IRCD and Edisontel, and CSELT will work
>with them to make some BGP4+ tests and operations to overcome the lack
>of expertise they have in this field.
>
>But reading their pTLA request I noticed a couple of statements I would like
>to clarify.
>
>The pTLA request should not be motivated by the start of IPv6 activities
>within
>MIX (Milan Internet Exchange). If MIX will go to experiment IPv6, MIX s.r.l.
>(the
>company that manages the exchange) should better ask a pTLA on its own,
>following the example of other Internet Exchanges in Europe and US.
>
>MIX has several Italian ISPs as members. It is not correct to say that
>Edisontel is the only MIX member to have more than 3 months of experience
>within the 6Bone. In fact, among the other members, Telecom Italia (through
>CSELT)
>has a 4 year experience on the 6Bone and is starting a field trial based on
>a
>recently assigned production subTLA.
>
>Bye,
>--Ivano
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Bob Fink[SMTP:fink@es.net]
> > Sent: luned́ 29 gennaio 2001 18.34
> > To: 6BONE List
> > Subject: pTLA request for IRCD - review closes 12 Feb 01
> >
> > 6bone Folk,
> >
> > IRCD has requested a pTLA allocation on behalf of Edisontel in Italy. The
> > open review period for this will close 12 Feb 2001. Please send any
> > comments to me or the list.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ======================================
> > >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:36:15 +0100 (CET)
> > >From: Max Gargani <slash@ircd.it>
> > >To: Bob Fink <fink@es.net>
> > >Subject: Re: pTLA request
> > >
> > >7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites
> > >
> > > The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. It
> > > should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are
> > > expected to provide production quality backbone network services for
> > > the 6Bone.
> > >
> > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months
> > > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit.
> > During
> > > the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally
> > > providing the following:
> > >
> > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their
> > > ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each
> > > tunnel that the Applicant has.
> > >
> > >We have a fully maintained entry on 6Bone database:
> > >ipv6-site: IRCD
> > >origin: AS5609
> > >descr: IRCd Italia
> > >country: IT
> > >prefix: 3FFE:1001:200::/44
> > >application: ping ping.ipv6.ircd.it
> > >application: irc irc6.ircd.it
> > >application: www www.ipv6.ircd.it
> > >tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> 6bone-gw3.ipv6.cselt.it
> > >CSELT STA
> > >TIC
> > >tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> route.ipv6.tobit.com TOBIT
> > >STATIC
> > >tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it ->
> > >exchange4-e0.ltn.panservice.it PA
> > >NSERVICE STATIC
> > >tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 c7505-v6.ircd.it -> rap.viagenie.qc.ca
> > VIAGENIE
> > >STATI
> > >C
> > >contact: MAX1-6BONE
> > >remarks: ipv6-site is operational since March 2000
> > > Tunnel Broker Available
> > >remarks: This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> > >registry
> > >url:
> > >mnt-by: IRCD-MNT
> > >changed: max@ipng.it 20000321
> > >changed: max@ipng.it 20000618
> > >changed: max@ipng.it 20000918
> > >changed: auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> > >source: 6BONE
> > >
> > >person: Massimiliano Gargani
> > >address: Edisontel S.p.A.
> > > Foro Buonaparte, 31
> > > I-20121 MILANO
> > > Italy
> > >phone: +39 02 6222.1
> > >fax-no: +39 02 6222.8006
> > >e-mail: max@ipng.it
> > >nic-hdl: MAX1-6BONE
> > >remarks: This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> > >registry
> > >notify: max@ipng.it
> > >changed: max@ipng.it 20000718
> > >changed: auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> > >source: 6BONE
> > >
> > >person: Sergio Chiesa
> > >address: Edisontel S.p.A.
> > > Foro Buonaparte, 31
> > > I-20121 MILANO
> > > Italy
> > >phone: +39 02 6222.1
> > >fax-no: +39 02 6222.8006
> > >e-mail: s.chiesa@ipng.it
> > >nic-hdl: SC2-6BONE
> > >remarks: This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> > >registry
> > >changed: s.chiesa@ipng.it 20000717
> > >changed: auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> > >source: 6BONE
> > >
> > >person: Andrea Colangelo
> > >address: Edisontel S.p.A.
> > > Foro Buonaparte, 31
> > > I-20121 MILANO
> > > Italy
> > >phone: +39 02 6222.1
> > >fax-no: +39 02 6222.8006
> > >e-mail: a.colangelo@ipng.it
> > >nic-hdl: AC1-6BONE
> > >remarks: This object is automatically converted from the RIPE181
> > >registry
> > >changed: a.colangelo@ipng.it 20000717
> > >changed: auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net 20010117
> > >source: 6BONE
> > >
> > >
> > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity
> > > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate
> > > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6
> > > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone
> > > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request.
> > >
> > >I haven't any IPv6 BGP peers because my address is part of CSELT address
> > >space and I can't annouce it to anyone.
> > >Anyway I have severals IPv4 BGP peers. You can check on RIPE database for
> > >AS15589
> > >
> > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int)
> > > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host
> > > system.
> > >
> > >Our DNS is ready for AAAA and ip6.int. Is autoritative for
> > >3ffe:1001:200::/44
> > >
> > >You can check on ns.irc6.org
> > >
> > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system
> > > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the
> > > Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 pingable.
> > >
> > >You can check www.ipv6.ircd.it (IPv6 only). On that site is described all
> > >what I did with IPv6
> > >
> > >I can't grant the reachbility of the sity because in the last week I've
> > >noticed
> > >a great unstability of CSELT IPv6 network
> > >
> > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide
> > > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must
> > > provide a statement and information in support of this claim.
> > > This MUST include the following:
> > >
> > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with
> > > person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object
> > > for the pTLA applicant.
> > >
> > >The our ipv6 staff is composed by:
> > >
> > >Max Gargani (me) MAX1-6bone
> > >Sergio Chiesa SC2-6bone
> > >Andrea Colangelo AC1-6bone
> > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support
> > > staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the
> > > ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant.
> > >
> > >The common e-mail address is ipv6@ipng.it
> > >
> > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that
> > > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a
> > > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus
> > > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in
> > > support this claim.
> > >
> > >Edisontel (the company I rappresent in this request) is a Telco and ISP
> > >here in
> > >Italy.
> > >The pTLA will serve all other our peers in Milan Internet Exchange N.A.P.
> > >
> > >At the MIX we have created an IPv6 working group, and because I'm the
> > only
> > >to have at least 3 month on 6Bone, I'm asking for pTLA
> > >All other peers are the major ISP here in Italy:
> > >
> > >At the working group will partecipate Edisontel, Telecom Italia,
> > >Infostrada,
> > >Cable & Wireless Italy, Blixer, I.Net and many others
> > >
> > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone
> > > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its
> > > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone
> > > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the
> > > 6Bone backbone and user community.
> > >
> > > When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply
> > > to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to
> > > the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the
> > > criteria above.
> > >
> > >We agree to the present and future 6Bone policies and the pTLA will be
> > >used
> > >only for experimental purpose
> > >
> > >
> > >8. 6Bone Operations Group
> > >
> > > The 6Bone Operations Group is the group in charge of monitoring and
> > > policing adherence to the current rules. Membership in the 6Bone
> > > Operations Group is mandatory for, and restricted to, sites connected
> > > to the 6Bone.
> > >
> > > The 6Bone Operations Group is currently defined by those members of
> > > the existing 6Bone mailing list who represent sites participating in
> > > the 6Bone. Therefore it is incumbent on relevant site contacts to
> > > join the 6Bone mailing list. Instructions on how to join the list are
> > > maintained on the 6Bone web site at < http://www.6bone.net>.
> > >
> > >We are already subscribed on the 6bone IPv6 mailing-list
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >.. Massimiliano Gargani
> > >.. Access/Network Engineer
> > >.. EdisonTel S.p.A. - Italy
> > >
> > >On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Bob Fink wrote:
> > >
> > > > Max,
> > > >
> > > > You need to respond to the pTLA request form available from the 6bone
> > home
> > > > page:
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.6bone.net/6bone_pTLA_rqst.html>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would specifically call your attention to the BGP4+ and the
> > community of
> > > > users requirements. However, please review all questions and answer
> > them as
> > > > asked.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > ===============================================
> > > > At 05:24 PM 1/19/2001 +0100, Max Gargani wrote:
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I have a v6 lab in Italy connected through CSELT. I have the address
> > space
> > > > >3ffe:1001:200::/44 and I'm experimenting in IPv6 since march 2000.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have several static tunnel around the world, an IPv6 IRC server
> > linked
> > > > >to IRCnet (the largest IRC net in europe), a tunnel broker service
> > for
> > > > >dynamic IP users. Web and FTP (ipv6/ipv4).
> > > > >
> > > > >You can obtain my details quering the 6bone database.
> > > > >
> > > > >My nic-handle is MAX1-6BONE
> > > > >the ipv6-site is IRCD
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm asking to become pTLA. I have severals peering IPv4 in twn
> > italian
> > > > >N.A.P. in Milan and Rome.
> > > > >
> > > > >My DNS is ready for AAAA and ip6.int and is autoritative for prefix
> > > > >3ffe:1001:200::/44
> > > > >
> > > > >The other 2 person who are working with me at IPv6 development are:
> > > > >
> > > > >Sergio Chiesa (SC2-6BONE)
> > > > >Andrea Colangelo (AC1-6BONE)
> > > > >
> > > > >the common e-mail address is ipv6@ipng.it
> > > > >
> > > > >The pTLA will part of an IPv6 working group to which take parte most
> > of
> > > > >the Milan Internet Exchange peers.
> > > > >
> > > > >I used IRCD as ipv6-site because I start IPv6 experimentation with
> > IRC
> > > > >servers and so I preferred register it for Italian IRC community, but
> > now
> > > > >I request the pTLA as Edisontel S.p.A. (ASn 15589 network:
> > 62.94.0.0/16)
> > > > >
> > > > >I hope this is enough to become pTLA.
> > > > >
> > > > >Let me know.
> > > > >
> > > > >TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > >.. Massimiliano Gargani
> > > > >.. Access/Network Engineer
> > > > >.. EdisonTel S.p.A. - Italy
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >