[6bone] report of 6bone planning BOF

matthew.ford@bt.com matthew.ford@bt.com
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 04:47:22 -0000


Hi Bob,

What I had in mind when I made the comment at yesterday's meeting that Rob
was referring to, was simply a note to request that IANA not re-allocate
3ffe until they *really* have to (i.e. there's nothing else left, or 3ffe is
specifically useful for something).

Mat.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Fink [mailto:bob@thefinks.com]
> Sent: 19 March 2003 18:31
> To: Rob Evans
> Cc: '6BONE List'
> Subject: Re: [6bone] report of 6bone planning BOF
> 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I don't mind adding something to the draft, but what would 
> you suggest that 
> would do any good.
> 
> Net operators are very unlikely to ever read the 6bone 
> phaseout RFC in 
> future years to find out what to do.
> 
> Nonetheless, I'll add something if you can suggest what and 
> where (and it 
> seems reasonable).
> 
> 
> Thanks for caring to think about this.
> 
> Bob
> 
> ===
> At 11:36 PM 3/19/2003 +0000, Rob Evans wrote:
> > > There is nothing one can do against bad admins except hitting them
> > > quite hard with a very big cluestick.
> >
> >Indeed, but documenting the possible issue would not be 
> harmful, would
> >it?  If for some reason a prefix was needed that is would not be
> >globally routable, this might then bubble straight to the top...
> >
> > > One solution to this, and some other problems could be solved
> > > by having a seperate 'blacklist BGP' which allows to block
> > > certain prefixes and other stuff from a central repository.
> >
> >I think one of the laws of the internet is that any routing-related
> >mailing list eventually discusses the possibilities of centrally
> >managed blackhole lists...
> >
> > > Currently most people, with clue, will also be filtering IPv6
> > > routes. See http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html
> > > If an admin doesn't update those, then you already have that
> > > problem.
> >
> >Right, although with any luck, there will be several orders of
> >magnitude more IPv6 network operators by the time that 3FFE::/16
> >comes around of reuse (if it ever does), and statistics suggest
> >that as well as many more clueful admins, there will be many more
> >clueless admins.
> >
> >Of course, we may well have a new addressing and routing paradigm
> >by that time too. :)
> >
> >Rob
> 
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