[6bone] pTLA request by CTN1 - review closes 16 December 2003
J. Miracle
matrix@miracle1.net
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:39:12 -0500
I share views with Jeroen and Pim van Pelt. I do not feel that CTN1 has met all of the requirements to request a pTLA. They don't seem to have an immediate need for one, especially with only one BGP uplink. Why not just get IPv6 space from your uplink / transit provider?
Thanks,
J. Miracle
VLINK Internet Systems
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:09:42 -0500
"Gregg C Levine" <hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> wrote: [Message-ID: 000001c3b94a$e652a440$0100a8c0@who5]
GCL> Hello from Gregg C Levine
GCL> I agree, with Pekka Savola, here. If we are going to admit service
GCL> providers as described in both items 2, and 3, then that company
GCL> obviously does not. When I saw the original message earlier today, I
GCL> saw something strange about it, but I could not finger it. Therefore,
GCL> as I said, I agree here with Pekka Savola, that this one should not be
GCL> granted.
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GCL> > -----Original Message-----
GCL> > From: 6bone-admin@mailman.isi.edu
GCL> [mailto:6bone-admin@mailman.isi.edu] On
GCL> > Behalf Of Pekka Savola
GCL> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:14 PM
GCL> > To: Bob Fink
GCL> > Cc: 6BONE List; Marc GOMEZ
GCL> > Subject: Re: [6bone] pTLA request by CTN1 - review closes 16
GCL> December 2003
GCL> >
GCL> > On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Bob Fink wrote:
GCL> > > CTN1 has requested a pTLA allocation and I find their request
GCL> fully
GCL> > > compliant with RFC2772. The open review period for this closes 16
GCL> December
GCL> > > 2003. Please send your comments to me or the list.
GCL> > >
GCL> > > <http://www.ctn1.com>
GCL> > >
GCL> > > This may be the last 6bone pTLA allocation made as the phaseout
GCL> plan
GCL> > > specifies no new pTLA allocations after the end of this year. Thus
GCL> if
GCL> > > anyone is expecting to request a pTLA, the request must be sent to
GCL> me no
GCL> > > later than 5 December to allow enough review and approval time
GCL> prior to 31
GCL> > > December.
GCL> >
GCL> > I do not believe this application fulfills the criteria for 2) or
GCL> 3).
GCL> > In particular, CTN1 is clearly a web/server-hosting company; this is
GCL> > not backbone operations:
GCL> >
GCL> > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide
GCL> > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. [...]
GCL> >
GCL> > and:
GCL> >
GCL> > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community"
GCL> that
GCL> > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant
GCL> is a
GCL> > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or
GCL> focus
GCL> > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and
GCL> information in
GCL> > support this claim.
GCL> >
GCL> > There was an answer to the latter, but it did not answer the real
GCL> > question, how would the user community be served by its becoming a
GCL> > *pTLA*. Sure, it's nice to give access to the users, but that can
GCL> be
GCL> > done as an end-site as well, as is currently being done.
GCL> >
GCL> > I'd strongly object to granting this pTLA request.
GCL> >
GCL> > > ===
GCL> > > >From: "Marc GOMEZ" <mg@ctn1.com>
GCL> > > >To: <bob@thefinks.com>
GCL> > > >Cc: <6bone@ctn1.net>
GCL> > > >Subject: 6bone request form
GCL> > > >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:06:31 +0100
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >Dear Bob,
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >I'd like to request a pTLA for CTN1, please find relevant info
GCL> below.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > >From RFC 2772
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA
GCL> allocation. It
GCL> > > > should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations
GCL> are
GCL> > > > expected to provide production quality backbone network
GCL> services for
GCL> > > > the 6Bone.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months
GCL> > > > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA
GCL> transit. During
GCL> > > > the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be
GCL> operationally
GCL> > > > providing the following:
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >Our IPv6 site is operational since 09 August 2003.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries
GCL> for their
GCL> > > > ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects,
GCL> including each
GCL> > > > tunnel that the Applicant has.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?CTN1
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and
GCL> connectivity
GCL> > > > between the Applicant's boundary router and the
GCL> appropriate
GCL> > > > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be
GCL> IPv6
GCL> > > > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the
GCL> 6Bone
GCL> > > > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA
GCL> request.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >Our ASN is 29402.
GCL> > > >We have an IPv6 native Gigabit connexion to FNIX6.
GCL> > > >NDSoftware (AS25358) provide us IPv6 transit through FNIX6.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse
GCL> (ip6.int)
GCL> > > > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one
GCL> host
GCL> > > > system.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >We have 3 nameservers:
GCL> > > > - ns1.ctn1.net
GCL> > > > - ns2.ctn1.net
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible
GCL> system
GCL> > > > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages,
GCL> describing the
GCL> > > > Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6
GCL> pingable.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >http://www.ctn1.com (all services are ready to use with IPv6)
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to
GCL> provide
GCL> > > > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants
GCL> must
GCL> > > > provide a statement and information in support of this
GCL> claim.
GCL> > > > This MUST include the following:
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three
GCL> preferable, with
GCL> > > > person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site
GCL> object
GCL> > > > for the pTLA applicant.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >RP10-6BONE
GCL> > > >MG22-6BONE
GCL> > > >BV3-6BONE
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all
GCL> support
GCL> > > > staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify
GCL> attribute in the
GCL> > > > ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >6bone@ctn1.net
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community"
GCL> that
GCL> > > > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the
GCL> Applicant is a
GCL> > > > major provider of Internet service in a region, country,
GCL> or focus
GCL> > > > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and
GCL> information in
GCL> > > > support this claim.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >CTN1 operates an IPv6 Network and provides a lot of IPv6 services
GCL> to many
GCL> > > >projects.
GCL> > > >We provide: Usenet Provider, Email provider and Hosting Provider
GCL> with dual
GCL> > > >IPv4 and IPv6.
GCL> > > >All IPv6 services is free of charge.
GCL> > > >We encourage all people to start a web site and Email server with
GCL> IPv6.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current
GCL> 6Bone
GCL> > > > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of
GCL> its
GCL> > > > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone
GCL> > > > operational rules and policies as they evolve by
GCL> consensus of the
GCL> > > > 6Bone backbone and user community.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >We agree to all current and future rules and policies.
GCL> > > >
GCL> > > >----
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