[6bone] Information request

[Jeroen Massar]

Willem Grooters wrote:

> Hello on the 6bone
> 
> I'm not new to IPV4 - though more a programmer for over e decade than
> network specialist - and I'd like to know more on IPV6 - and use it.
> I've read some literature on the subject, most RFC's 
> concerning IPV6 but
> given the discussions on this forum during the last month I 
> hardly thinkthis
> forum can be of any help, since the discussions seem to be more about
> political issues (the whole rubbish on NDSOFTWARE.NET) than 
> helping anyone
> to get some idea on how to get on with IPV6....
> Still, I'll give it a try.

Quite unfortunate that you read it like that, but it was like that.
Politics are required to keep things moving around otherwise it will all
turn into a big mess (See Pekka's draft about that :).
Though there is much help to be found here ofcourse.

Biggest help to most people will be http://hs247.com containing many
links to documentation (RFC's etc), resources and tunnelbrokers.
It also serves as the main "IPv6 News" site.

> I have:
> 
> 1 Alpha running OpenVMS 7.3-1 (which is said to be IPV6 ready)

These will work I heared from a certain person called snore.
If you need more info I can ping him around to you.

> 2 Intel W2K machines, I downloaded the IPV6-perview for this

Works perfectly.

> 1 WindowsME, I downloaded Trumpet IPV6 stack already.

Unknown to me, I refuse to use 9x due to many reasons ;)

> I _will_ have an ADSL connection within a few weeks, but I 
> don't thinmk the router I'll have to use is IPV6 ready (still have to
ask).

XS4all (www.xs4all.nl) PowerDSL does native IPv6. As for most others
most
other dutch ADSL you will need to setup a tunnel to a tunnelbroker (see
below).
XS4all have their own btw (http://service.xs4all.nl/ipv6/)
Concepts (www.supersneladsl.nl :) uses a SixXS POP (see below)

> i _could_ use an old PC running Linux, but it will be an older RedHat 
> implementation (newest do not install....)
> For the Windows machines, I'm NOT upgrading to XP (which 
> seems to have an IPV6 stack somehow)

The IPv6 Previews work just fine.

> All connected using FastEthernet.
> 
> What I did understand from the site is that Windows might 
> have a problem.

Windows NT based products work fine, I personally don't have experience
with 9x and IPv6.

> How to get over it?
> I don't think the local network would be a problem. But what about
> connecting to the Internet? My ISP doesn't connect over IPV6 
> yet, so I'll have to use 6to4, probably. Where: On the VMS-box? On a 
> router (be it Linux, FreeBSD or whatever).
> Can I use a modem in stead of a 'fixed'connection (I would 
> think yes, but like to have confirmation). In that case, I'll need
6to4 on a PC....

IMHO 6to4 is not so good especially as there are at least 2 "big"
tunnelbrokers in holland:
http://www.xs26.net
http://www.sixxs.net (IPng.nl is provisioned by them now also)

They both can provide you with a tunnel and a subnet.
Note that xs26 has multiple POPs and you can connect to all of them
routing the same prefix over those tunnels, while sixxs has multiple
POPs but to completely distinct networks.
Thus your milage may vary. Read the websites, snoop around and find out.

6to4 usually goes over cselt (tilab) which is not really 'local' :)

> Any good books to read?

Christian Huitema's book available at most Donner's (the bookchain with
the ";)").

%T IPv6: The New Internet Protocol
%A Huitema, Christian
%I Prentice Hall
%C Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey
%D 1996
%O paperback, index
%G ISBN 0-13-241936-X
%P vii,188pp

Or check http://dannyreviews.com/h/IPv6.html and ofcoure "Christian
Huitema IPv6" in google.

Greets,
 Jeroen