[6bone] RFC2772 rewrite -- bigger scope goals

[Rico Gloeckner]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 03:57:38PM +0100, Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 13:57, Robert Kiessling wrote:
> > Entities operating RIR allocations will have BGP experience, which is
> > more relevent. And they have a view and sense of real network
> > topology.
> 
> Yes, but i mean _IPv6 experience_.

Networks with Production-Quality will probably have more Experience,
even if it is lacking IPv6-Experience.

> Why your solution is not good:
> 
> - If you cut 6bone and RIR, 6bone will have a very bad routing (i know,
> it's not a problem for you because you have a sTLA).

Nonsense. Its about keeping 6bone Sites off the DFZ to reduce Bad
Effects within the DFZ.

> - A pTLA can offer better service than a sTLA.

Oh? Can i have an Explanation for that?

> - IPv6 world must have the same routing policy, why complicate IPv6
> routing ?
> 
> => Do a clean of 6bone and be more strict on RFC2772 is better.

Well, IMHO it would be good to:
 - put sTLAs in the DFZ and let them provide Production Quality
 - put pTLAs outside the DFZ and let them provide a TestingBed
   so they can actually /test/ without harming the DFZ.

> Your solution will kill the 6bone because the 6bone will be too limited,
> and all ISP will resquest a sTLA for do their tests.

No. It will bring any Space to its Purpose, see above.

For any EndCustomer it gets less and less difficult to receive
RIR-Space. 

> We don't operate our pTLA as a hobby.
> We operate our pTLA professionally.
> We have a 24x7 contact and we reply within 24 hours.
> We provide to ours users a production quality service and we have a good
> routing (we use filtering, MED,...).
> 
> A lot of sTLA don't operate their sTLA professionally.
> A lot of sTLA don't have a 24x7 contact and don't reply within 24 hours.
> A lot of sTLA don't have a good routing (they don't use filtering,
> MED,...)


It doesnt effect Facts if you keep repeating yourself. I'd personally
consider it a rather... childish Behaviour.


	-rg