[6bone] proposal for transfer of 6bone address management responsibilities to RIRs

[Richard Jimmerson]

Hello John,

> As long as the current "if you're already paying us 
> for v4 allocation(s), you don't pay more" holds true, 
> I don't have a problem.

It is currently the case that ARIN does not collect fees
from current ARIN IPv4 subscribers who request and qualify 
for IPv6 address space.  A note from the ARIN web site:

** "ARIN will not collect subscription fees for current 
ARIN IPv4 subscribers who request and qualify for IPv6 address 
space. This will be effective from January 1, 2001 to 
December 31, 2002 unless terminated earlier by the ARIN Board. 
This change in fee policy was enacted by the ARIN Board of 
Trustees at their December 14, 2000 meeting." **

The IPv6 fee schedule is currently being evaluated.  Included
below is a statement from the minutes of the ARIN Board of
Trustees meeting, July 9, 2002.  This has been added as a note
to the fee schedule page of the ARIN website.

** "The ARIN Board of Trustees notes that the recent change
to the IPv6 minimum allocation size has an impact on the fee 
schedule. While a new fee schedule is being evaluated, the Board 
waives any additional fees that would otherwise be assessed based 
on the larger initial amount of address space. This waiver is 
effective August 1, 2002 until such time as the Board publishes 
a new fee schedule. The current waiver of assessment of fees for 
IPv4 subscribers who request IPv6 space will remain in effect 
until December 31, 2002." **

Best Regards,

Richard Jimmerson
Director of Operations
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 6bone-admin@mailman.isi.edu 
> [mailto:6bone-admin@mailman.isi.edu] On Behalf Of John Fraizer
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:19 PM
> To: Gert Doering
> Cc: Francis Dupont; Bob Fink; 6BONE List
> Subject: Re: [6bone] proposal for transfer of 6bone address 
> management responsibilities to RIRs
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Gert Doering wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 09:01:33PM +0200, Francis Dupont wrote:
> > > => one of the interest of IPv6 is to finish with this 
> system of fees for
> > > addresses. I am afraid that the current RIR monopoly will 
> give at the end
> > > something even nastier than ICANN.
> > 
> > How do you propose to handle address management, reverse 
> DNS management
> > etc. without someone to take care of it (and get paid for it)?
> > 
> > Gert Doering
> >         -- NetMaster
> > -- 
> > Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 
>  45583  (46871)
> > 
> > SpaceNet AG                 Mail: netmaster@Space.Net
> > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14   Tel : +49-89-32356-0
> > 80807 Muenchen              Fax : +49-89-32356-299
> > 
> 
> 
> >From the ARIN website:
> 
> "Organizations approved for receiving the standard /35 initial IPv6
> allocation will be charged an annual fee of $2,500 (US). For larger
> amounts of addresses, a fee of $20,000 (US) will be assessed. 
> These fees
> are payable prior to receiving the addresses and thereafter on the
> anniversary date of the initial allocation. However, IPv6 
> fees will not be
> charged to organizations that are current ARIN IPv4 
> subscription holders."
> 
> As long as the current "if you're already paying us for v4 
> allocation(s),
> you don't pay more" holds true, I don't have a problem.
> 
> I find it hard to swallow that there is $20,000USD worth of 
> work involved
> with maintaining the whois database and two ip6.arpa records 
> for each and
> every /32 v6 allocation.
> 
> $10K USD for each /16 of v4 space seems a bit steep as well 
> but such is
> life.
> 
> 
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