[6bone] routing problem

Michel Py michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us
Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:45:14 -0700


Paul,

You have no business coming on the 6bone mailing list or any IETF or
public mailing list with the typical Cisco attitude that says "you
should have asked us first".

A good half of the 6bone mailing has more operational experience with
Cisco routers than most of your team.

I am sorry that you have to pay the consequences of TAC's incompetence,
but I deal with one company (Cisco) not with individuals.

Look at the email archives. Cisco is the only vendor with this attitude
on public mailing lists.

I warn you not to do this too often as I have a huge pile of documented
dirty laundry with Cisco support that nor you neither your management
wants to see washed publicly.


Michel Py
CCIE #6673.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Aitken [mailto:paitken@cisco.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: Michel Py
Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: [6bone] routing problem

Michel,

> And maybe the clever thing to do for Cisco would be to understand that
> the reason people come here asking Cisco questions is because they are
> tired of dealing with Cisco support, or the lack of it thereof.

Well I'm sorry if at any time you've felt let down by Cisco Support.

While I can't speak for Cisco TAC, I believe that we, 
ipv6-support@cisco.com, do a very good job of trying to understand each 
individual user's unique situation and work with them to resolve 
whatever issues they're facing.

ipv6-support typically receives around 25 customer emails a week, 
including requests for information, tunnel requests, feature requests 
and bug reports.

Considering that we're not Cisco TAC, we're not a call centre, we 
(allegedly) don't work 24 x 7 (although it's 11.30pm here in Scotland), 
we're a small team and we actually have real development work to do, I 
think it's amazing that we somehow find the time to help customers 
individually.

I don't know many other companies that offer direct access to their 
development engineers. In fact, I know some who charge a lot of money 
for that sort of service.

So please, read the signature below carefully. I'm not a TAC engineer, 
I'm a software engineer working on IPv6 development. Cisco ipv6-support 
is not Cisco TAC. We're a small group of engineers who are enthusiastic 
about developing IPv6 solutions, and we'll do our very best to help you 
with any IPv6 problems.

Cheers.
-- 
Paul Aitken
IPv6 Development, Cisco Systems Ltd, Edinburgh, Scotland. EH6 6LX