pTLA request SSVL - review closes 3 May 2002

[Bjorn Pehrson]

Pekka,

Let me provide some information that may make you reconsider.

SSVL is a research network, separate from the regular KTH network and 
from Sunet.  SSVL is an AS of its own, multi-homed with international,  
and even intercontinental,  peering. We should not be regarded as a 
regular university facility.

The reason why we apply for p/sTLA status is that we are sponsored with  
research grants and a few dedicated physical links to do research on 
issues regarding ipv6 network topology, scalability and interdomain 
issues which cannot be studied experimentally unless you are active on 
the TLA level. We are also conducting specialized education in these 
areas. There is a growing demand for such  research and education and  I 
do not think it would be in the interest of the Internet community to 
restrict the possibility to conduct such activites. SSVL is set up to 
facilitate this.

Neither Sunet nor KTH has a pTLA assignment. Sunet do have an sTLA 
assignment but is not yet operating and has not yet responded to our 
question about when they will start operating.  SICS, who is currently 
our main pTLA contact, is no longer very active in the ipv6 area and we 
are hampered by the difficulty getting the service from them that we 
need. We have offered them to take over these services , and also those 
of their  users that need more prompt responses, but we of course first 
need to get ackredited by the 6Bone operation group.

Best regards

Bjorn Pehrson

Pekka Savola wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Absolute no!  There are two no's here:
>
>1) SUNET already has a block, and it should assign a part to KTH
>  ==> KTH applying for s/pTLA would be wrong
>
>2) KTH should get a block and it should assign a part to SSVL.
>  ==> SSVL applying for s/pTLA would be *double* wrong.
>
>We do *not* want to get down the road where facilities of universities 
>apply for s/pTLA's.
>
>Based on current knowledge, this pTLA request MUST BE rejected or else 
>RFC2772 will need SERIOUS rewording.
>
>On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Bob Fink wrote:
>
>>6bone Folk,
>>
>>SSVL has requested a pTLA allocation and I find their request fully 
>>compliant with RFC2772. The open review period for this will close 3 May 
>>2002. Please send your comments to me or the list.
>>
>><http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?SSVL>
>>
>><http://www-v6.ssvl.kth.se>
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Bob
>>===
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:51:28 +0200
>>>From: Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@it.kth.se>
>>>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.3) 
>>>Gecko/20010801
>>>To: Bob Fink <fink@es.net>
>>>CC: "Americo F. Muchanga" <americo@it.kth.se>,
>>>        Fredrik Lilieblad
>>>        <fli@it.kth.se>,
>>>        Jonas Willén <jwi@it.kth.se>,
>>>        Martin
>>>        Hedenfalk <mhe@home.se>
>>>Subject: pTLA application
>>>
>>>Bob,
>>>Enclosed, please find an application for a 6Bone pTLA allocation from SSVL.
>>>
>>>Sincerely
>>>
>>>Björn Pehrson
>>>SSVL admin-c
>>>(bp2-6bone)
>>>----------------------------
>>>
>>>>The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. It
>>>>should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are
>>>>expected to provide production quality backbone network services for
>>>>the 6Bone.
>>>>1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months
>>>>qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. During
>>>>the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally
>>>>providing the following:
>>>>
>>>>a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their
>>>>ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each
>>>>tunnel that the Applicant has.
>>>>
>>>Our ipv6 site SSVL (AS8973) is registered with RIPE and the 6bone registry 
>>>since 1999-06-05. We are currently connected to the following pTLAs
>>>- SICS (peering via BGP4+)
>>>- FreeNet (static route)
>>>When upgraded to pTLA, we will continue peering with these pTLAs and add a 
>>>few more, including Sunet, the Swedish academic netwok provider.
>>>
>>>>b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity
>>>>between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate
>>>>connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6
>>>>pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone
>>>>Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request.
>>>>
>>>Our BGP4+ is stable running on our Cisco 7513 router at
>>>kth-gateway-loopback0.ssvl.kth.se 3ffe:200:15:6::1
>>>
>>>>c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int)
>>>>entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host
>>>>system.
>>>>
>>>We have AAAA and ipv6.int for all our ipv6 hosts and networks at 
>>>ns.ssvl.kth.se. Another host is the webserver www-v6.ssvl.kth.se
>>>
>>>>d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system
>>>>providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the
>>>>Applicant's IPv6 services.  This server must be IPv6 pingable.
>>>>
>>>www-v6.ssvl.kth.se  3ffe:200:15:5::1
>>>
>>>>2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide
>>>>"production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must
>>>>provide a statement and information in support of this claim.
>>>>
>>>Statement: We hereby claim that we have the ability and intent to
>>>provide production quality 6Bone backbone service.
>>>
>>>>This MUST include the following:
>>>>
>>>>a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with
>>>>person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object
>>>>for the pTLA applicant.
>>>>
>>>The following persons are listed under MNT-SSVL
>>>- Fredrik Lilieblad <fli@it.kth.se>
>>>- Björn Pehrson <bjorn@it.kth.se>
>>>- Jonas Willén <jwi@it.kth.se>
>>>
>>>>b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all
>>>>support staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify
>>>>attribute in the ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant.
>>>>
>>>The mailinglist noc@ssvl.kth.se includes
>>>- Fredrik Lilieblad <fli@it.kth.se>
>>>- Björn Pehrson <bjorn@it.kth.se>
>>>- Jonas Willén <jwi@it.kth.se>
>>>
>>>>3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that
>>>>would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a
>>>>major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus
>>>>of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in
>>>>support this claim.
>>>>
>>>KTH is a leading academic research organization in the Internetworking 
>>>area conducting long term research on the next generation networks. Our 
>>>current research program includes the next generation network topology and 
>>>scalability, interdomain issues, support for mobility, multicast and
>>>QoS, security, privacy, etc. The SSVL group provides regional, national 
>>>and global testbeds for experimental research also for other 
>>>organizations. We also provide an operator-neutral access network in the
>>>Greater Stockholm area.
>>>
>>>Our current user community (pingable now)includes
>>>- The IT-University, Stockholm, 3ffe:200:15:44::1, native link, routing 
>>>via rip
>>>- Stanford University, ssvl.stanford.edu 3ffe:200:15:802:240:5ff:fea2:242b 
>>>native link, routing via rip
>>>- stockholmopen.net 3ffe:200:15:3:a00:02ff:fe9c:62b3, native link, routing 
>>>via rip
>>>
>>>Users being connected
>>>- University Eduardo Mondlane, Maputo, dzowo.uem.mz, 
>>>(3ffe:200:15:60::1)tunnel and static route
>>>- Tallin Technical University (), native link, routing via rip
>>>- imit.kth.se (), native link
>>>- kistaip.net (), native link
>>>- networks connected to the Solix IXP (www.sol-ix.com) that request 
>>>transit to the 6Bone backbone for R&D purposes.
>>>- scint.org ()
>>>- lanman2002.org
>>>- lanman2002.net
>>>
>>>>4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone
>>>>operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its
>>>>application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone
>>>>operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the
>>>>6Bone backbone and user community.
>>>>
>>>We commit to abide by the 6Bone operational rules and policies, current
>>>and future.
>>>
>>>>When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply
>>>>to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to
>>>>the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the
>>>>criteria above.
>>>>
>>>We commit to provide the necessary information requested by the 6Bone
>>>Operations Group.
>>>
>>>>8. 6Bone Operations Group
>>>>
>>>>The 6Bone Operations Group is the group in charge of monitoring and
>>>>policing adherence to the current rules. Membership in the 6Bone
>>>>Operations Group is mandatory for, and restricted to, sites connected
>>>>to the 6Bone.
>>>>
>>>>The 6Bone Operations Group is currently defined by those members of
>>>>the existing 6Bone mailing list who represent sites participating in
>>>>the 6Bone. Therefore it is incumbent on relevant site contacts to
>>>>join the 6Bone mailing list. Instructions on how to join the list
>>>>are maintained on the 6Bone web site at < http://www.6bone.net>.
>>>>
>>>All three persons mentioned above are memmbers of the list 6bone@isi.edu
>>>and are prepared to join additional lists if required to fulfill this
>>>commitment
>>>
>>>Sincerely
>>>
>>>Bjorn Pehrson
>>>SSVL admin-c
>>>
>>
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