From biappaib at 163.com Thu Sep 2 19:15:15 2004 From: biappaib at 163.com (Wengui Yang) Date: Thu Sep 2 19:07:03 2004 Subject: [6bone] IPv6 load balance Message-ID: <200409030206.i8326ci04909@gamma.isi.edu> 6bone, How does IPv6 support traffic load balance, using only one IPv6 adress? I do know there is some work on IPv6 load balance, but catch nothing detail. According my googling, It seemed that IPv6 will arrive it wity anycast. Do you tell me wether my guess is correct or not, and detailed information will get my great appreciating. Thanks a lot! 　　　　　　　　 　　　　　　　　Wengui Yang 　　　　　　　　biappaib@163.com 　　　　　　　　　　2004-09-01 From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 04:17:33 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Tue Sep 7 04:19:26 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally References: <40FEAC71.1020103@fpsn.net><20040722072745.GI467@Space.Net> <1090495830.16467.544.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: Hi All, I Thank all involved for helping me in creating an IPv6 enabled website. In the end a mixture of everyones advise and implemenation techniques seem to have done the trick. I say 'seem to' because I don't know anybody outside of this group that is v6 enabled! So a favour if I could, if someone could visit my site at http://www.minitutorials.com and look at the footer of the page to see if (Colins script I think) the script correctly identifies an IPv6 connection. I have tested it internally to the network and an IPv6 connected machine is correctly identified. A non IPv6 enabled machine is also correctly identified as being a v4 connection. So it all seems to work. Also, for my purposes and for the tutorials on my site, it works, so I can then embed extra content into the pages for those that connect from a v6 connection (I havent implemented this bit yet.) However, I have not done any registering of AAAA records etc, but rather added entries to my hosts file, as I am not sure in my circumstance that I can add AAAA records. Situation: The domain name of www.minitutorials.com is registered to me, it points to my DynDNS.org account name of www.minitutorials.serveftp.net which then sends the visitor to my own Server here. I have a /48 with FREENET6 and so any v6 connections I assume come through them first. I therfore do not know who to approach as regards getting www.minitutorials.com or www.minitutorials.serveftp.net an AAAA update done. Ideally I would to be able to, as advised not long ago in here have :- www.minitutorials.com AAAA + A www.v4.minitutorials.com A www.v6.minitutorials.com AAAA How can I go about this if it is possible in my case. Thanks in advance. Gav... --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 04:30:14 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Tue Sep 7 04:31:19 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future Message-ID: Hi All, me again. Currently, most users connect via a v4 connection without a care in the world, without even knowing it exists, they just know typing in a URL or sending email gets there. What about v6, when implemented, will this be the same smooth (as far as a customers point of view is concerned) silent and unseen mechanism that the end user needs know nothing about? Will they just turn on the computer one day, and after an automatic update, be v6 enabled and surfing the web, or is the configurations and installations that we do now going to need to done on millions on machines around the globe? I guess v4 will still be around for a while yet, as I think many ISPs etc wont update their equipment for a few years. Gavin McDonald www.minitutorials.com --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 From Mailinglists.sven at roederer.dhs.org Tue Sep 7 12:47:59 2004 From: Mailinglists.sven at roederer.dhs.org (Sven Roederer) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:49:23 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally In-Reply-To: References: <1090495830.16467.544.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: <200409072147.59648.Mailinglists.sven@roederer.dhs.org> Am Dienstag, 7. September 2004 13:17 schrieb Gav: > So a favour if I could, if someone could visit my site at > http://www.minitutorials.com and look at the footer > of the page to see if (Colins script I think) the script correctly > identifies an IPv6 connection. > I have tested it internally to the network and an IPv6 connected machine is > correctly identified. > A non IPv6 enabled machine is also correctly identified as being a v4 > connection. So it all seems to work. Hi , I just connected to your site, but it was not recognized as IPv6-connection. "194.29.229.78 Remote host supports IPv4 ". When I visit http://www.kame.net my v6-aware setup is recognized. Sven From jay at scherrer.com Tue Sep 7 12:49:21 2004 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:51:21 2004 Subject: [6bone] Re: 6bone Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200409071900.i87J0Mi09484@gamma.isi.edu> References: <200409071900.i87J0Mi09484@gamma.isi.edu> Message-ID: <200409071249.21481.jay@scherrer.com> All I see is: "You are currently here :~/index.shtml". Jay On Tuesday 07 September 2004 12:00 pm, 6bone-request@mailman.isi.edu wrote: > Send 6bone mailing list submissions to > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6bone-request@mailman.isi.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6bone-owner@mailman.isi.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6bone digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally (Gav) > 2. The future (Gav) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:17:33 +0800 > From: "Gav" > Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally > To: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All, > > I Thank all involved for helping me in creating an IPv6 enabled website. > > In the end a mixture of everyones advise and implemenation techniques seem > to have done the trick. > > I say 'seem to' because I don't know anybody outside of this group that is > v6 enabled! > > So a favour if I could, if someone could visit my site at > http://www.minitutorials.com and look at the footer > of the page to see if (Colins script I think) the script correctly > identifies an IPv6 connection. > I have tested it internally to the network and an IPv6 connected machine is > correctly identified. > A non IPv6 enabled machine is also correctly identified as being a v4 > connection. So it all seems to work. > > Also, for my purposes and for the tutorials on my site, it works, so I can > then embed extra content into > the pages for those that connect from a v6 connection (I havent implemented > this bit yet.) However, I have not > done any registering of AAAA records etc, but rather added entries to my > hosts file, as I am not sure in my > circumstance that I can add AAAA records. > > Situation: > > The domain name of www.minitutorials.com is registered to me, it points to > my DynDNS.org account name of > www.minitutorials.serveftp.net which then sends the visitor to my own > Server here. I have a /48 with FREENET6 > and so any v6 connections I assume come through them first. I therfore do > not know who to approach as regards > getting www.minitutorials.com or www.minitutorials.serveftp.net an AAAA > update done. > > Ideally I would to be able to, as advised not long ago in here have :- > > www.minitutorials.com AAAA + A > www.v4.minitutorials.com A > www.v6.minitutorials.com AAAA > > How can I go about this if it is possible in my case. > > Thanks in advance. > > Gav... > > > --- > Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:30:14 +0800 > From: "Gav" > Subject: [6bone] The future > To: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All, me again. > > Currently, most users connect via a v4 connection without a care in the > world, without even knowing > it exists, they just know typing in a URL or sending email gets there. > > What about v6, when implemented, will this be the same smooth (as far as a > customers point of view is concerned) > silent and unseen mechanism that the end user needs know nothing about? > > Will they just turn on the computer one day, and after an automatic update, > be v6 enabled and surfing the web, > or is the configurations and installations that we do now going to need to > done on millions on machines around > the globe? > > I guess v4 will still be around for a while yet, as I think many ISPs etc > wont update their equipment for a few years. > > Gavin McDonald > > www.minitutorials.com > > > --- > Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 6bone mailing list > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone > > > End of 6bone Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > *********************************** From bruns at 2mbit.com Tue Sep 7 14:18:44 2004 From: bruns at 2mbit.com (Brian Bruns) Date: Tue Sep 7 14:19:38 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally References: <1090495830.16467.544.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> <200409072147.59648.Mailinglists.sven@roederer.dhs.org> Message-ID: <009901c49520$468b1a70$13eda3ac@2mbit.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:47 PM [EDT], Sven Roederer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 7. September 2004 13:17 schrieb Gav: >> So a favour if I could, if someone could visit my site at >> http://www.minitutorials.com and look at the footer >> of the page to see if (Colins script I think) the script correctly >> identifies an IPv6 connection. >> I have tested it internally to the network and an IPv6 connected >> machine is correctly identified. >> A non IPv6 enabled machine is also correctly identified as being a >> v4 connection. So it all seems to work. > > Hi , > > I just connected to your site, but it was not recognized as > IPv6-connection. "194.29.229.78 Remote host supports IPv4 ". When I > visit http://www.kame.net my v6-aware setup is recognized. > There does not appear to be any AAAA/A6 records for www.minitutorials.com (according to my DNS server). -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.sosdg.org The Abusive Hosts Blocking List http://www.ahbl.org From gert at space.net Tue Sep 7 14:35:03 2004 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Tue Sep 7 14:36:25 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally In-Reply-To: <200409072147.59648.Mailinglists.sven@roederer.dhs.org> References: <1090495830.16467.544.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> <200409072147.59648.Mailinglists.sven@roederer.dhs.org> Message-ID: <20040907213503.GB467@Space.Net> Hi, On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:47:59PM +0200, Sven Roederer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 7. September 2004 13:17 schrieb Gav: > > So a favour if I could, if someone could visit my site at > > http://www.minitutorials.com and look at the footer > > of the page to see if (Colins script I think) the script correctly > > identifies an IPv6 connection. > > I have tested it internally to the network and an IPv6 connected machine is > > correctly identified. > > A non IPv6 enabled machine is also correctly identified as being a v4 > > connection. So it all seems to work. > > Hi , > > I just connected to your site, but it was not recognized as IPv6-connection. > "194.29.229.78 Remote host supports IPv4 ". When I visit http://www.kame.net > my v6-aware setup is recognized. That's mainly due to the fact that there is no AAAA record for www.minitutorials.com in the DNS yet (which Gav writes later on in hist mail). So we *can't* access it over IPv6, even if the local browser would be capable of doing so... Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 66629 (65398) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299 From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 16:35:14 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Tue Sep 7 16:36:46 2004 Subject: [6bone] Re: 6bone Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 References: <200409071900.i87J0Mi09484@gamma.isi.edu> <200409071249.21481.jay@scherrer.com> Message-ID: | All I see is: | "You are currently here :~/index.shtml". | Jay Thanks for looking Jay, it is in the same blue footer as that statement, below that is a site index and below that site index , right at the very bottom of the page is where the IP address and 'Remote Host Supports ...' is. Gav... --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 From allan at aircadet.com Tue Sep 7 20:14:43 2004 From: allan at aircadet.com (Allan Vejvoda) Date: Tue Sep 7 20:15:22 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally Message-ID: <20040908031443.F1D88D7978@sitemail.everyone.net> >However, I have not >done any registering of AAAA records etc, but rather added entries to >my >hosts file, as I am not sure in my >circumstance that I can add AAAA records. Well, the latest versions of BIND support AAAA records. If you need something free (a free yourname.something.com subdomain, and/or DNS hosting for AAA records), I recommend http://www.sitelutions.com/info/sldns. I've used their free DNS hosting+free subdomain for my own AAAA record. The DNS works like this: You have IPv4: 127.0.0.1 and an IPv6: ::1. The domain name is localhost. Add an A record to localhost that points to 127.0.0.1, and an AAAA record to localhost that points to ::1. Those who have an IPv6 address and go to http://localhost will connect to the IPv6 IP by default. If someone does not have an IPv6 address and goes to http://localhost, that person will connect to the IPv4 IP by default. In other words, by having your domain point to both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, you won't be creating any problems. Hope this helps :) _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE email ---> http://www.aircadet.com From allan at aircadet.com Tue Sep 7 21:05:05 2004 From: allan at aircadet.com (Allan Vejvoda) Date: Tue Sep 7 21:05:17 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future Message-ID: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> >What about v6, when implemented, will this be the same smooth (as far >as a >customers point of view is concerned) >silent and unseen mechanism that the end user needs know nothing about? IPv6 is just version 6 of the protocol, so nothing is really going to change except for the greatly increasing the number of available IP addresses, the support of IP security, the mobility of IP addresses, autoconfiguration, 6 to 4 ability, and less routing table entries. In the case of users, they will only need to know that IPv4 addresses consist of four decimal octets separated by three dots, that IPv6 addresses consist of 8 or less hexadecimal octets separated by colons, and finally, they will also need to know that IPv4 and IPv6 are not compatible with each other (except that IPv4 addresses can be mapped and embedded on IPv6). >Will they just turn on the computer one day, and after an automatic >update, >be v6 enabled and surfing the web, >or is the configurations and installations that we do now going to >need to >done on millions on machines around >the globe? Some ISPs already delegate IPv6 addresses when users connect to the internet. Comcast and Cox communications, for example, both automatically delegate IPv6 addresses to users who have IPv6 installed (or kernel compiled) on their computers. >I guess v4 will still be around for a while yet, as I think many ISPs >etc >wont update their equipment for a few years. They don't have to update anything except their software (unless they have _really_ old hardware). Most network interfaces support IPv6. I guess the only ones which wouldn't support IPv6 would be ones from the late '80s/early '90s. Though, you may be correct on the fact that many ISPs won't be using IPv6. My ISP, for example, hardly even knows how to set up firewalls! On their news page, they claimed they implemented DoS attack filtering, and the only change I noticed was that I could no longer use ping or traceroute due to their CISCO routers blocking _outgoing_ icmp packets. Anyone could ping my IP, but I could not ping theirs. I eventually complained to them and they fixed it about 4 months later. I called their tech support up and asked them about IPv6. At first they didn't even know what it was. Then the english-as-a-second-language-speaking tech support person asked me what version of Windows I had. After explaining to this poor man what FreeBSD was (because when I said I had FreeBSD, he replied, "uh, what's that?"), he came back and said "we don't support UNIX, and UNIX will not work with this internet service". Heh, their own servers run Solaris! (Which is UNIX, right? So UNIX does not work with itself? Nonsense) It goes to say that in the coming years, the IPv6 progress may be slowed down by these ISPs which have no idea about the outside world, and only know how to pop a CD in a Windows computer to install ISP software for connecting to the internet. _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE email ---> http://www.aircadet.com From gert at space.net Wed Sep 8 01:37:34 2004 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Wed Sep 8 01:38:32 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20040908083734.GF467@Space.Net> Hi, On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Allan Vejvoda wrote: > d I had FreeBSD, he replied, "uh, what's that?"), he came back > and said "we don't support UNIX, and UNIX will not work with this > internet service". Heh, their own servers run Solaris! (Which is > UNIX, right? So UNIX does not work with itself? Nonsense) It goes > to say that in the coming years, the IPv6 progress may be slowed > down by these ISPs which have no idea about the outside world, and > only know how to pop a CD in a Windows computer to install ISP > software for connecting to the internet. Hopefully this will eventually make people pay a few dollars more per month and connect to clueful ISPs. I *really* can't understand that. People like myself invest heavily to get clueful and well-trained people to run the shop, and all we get to hear from our customers is "you are too expensive, we will choose the no-support-no-clue ISP round the corner". And then they complain that the ISP has no clue... Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 66629 (65398) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299 From steffann at nederland.net Wed Sep 8 02:01:33 2004 From: steffann at nederland.net (Sander Steffann) Date: Wed Sep 8 02:05:22 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <20040908083734.GF467@Space.Net> Message-ID: <2B1A983EDCEC3447B22632B64F7264600DE8E5@bill.office.computel.nl> Hi, Gert Doering wrote: > > I *really* can't understand that. People like myself invest heavily > to get clueful and well-trained people to run the shop, and all we > get to hear from our customers is "you are too expensive, we will > choose the no-support-no-clue ISP round the corner". > > And then they complain that the ISP has no clue... > Same here :( The realy difficult part is to make them understand/appreciate the extra value they get for their money... There will always be people that only look at the price and not at the service, but we decided long ago that we don't even want those people as our customers. Sander. From dr at cluenet.de Wed Sep 8 02:10:04 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Wed Sep 8 02:10:19 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Allan Vejvoda wrote: > Some ISPs already delegate IPv6 addresses when users connect to > the internet. Comcast and Cox communications, for example, both > automatically delegate IPv6 addresses to users who have IPv6 > installed (or kernel compiled) on their computers. How do they do that? Statically routing a /48 or /64? Regards, Daniel From jeroen at unfix.org Wed Sep 8 03:14:50 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Wed Sep 8 03:16:17 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <1094638489.2078.79.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 11:10, Daniel Roesen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Allan Vejvoda wrote: > > Some ISPs already delegate IPv6 addresses when users connect to > > the internet. Comcast and Cox communications, for example, both > > automatically delegate IPv6 addresses to users who have IPv6 > > installed (or kernel compiled) on their computers. > > How do they do that? Statically routing a /48 or /64? The only thing comcast 'does' is allow proto-41 to work. The thing those people are using is called 6to4, which is yet another tunneling mechanism and is nowhere near native IPv6. Afaik Comcast uses DOCSIS modems and those babys don't do IPv6. Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/attachments/20040908/594f284a/attachment.bin From hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net Wed Sep 8 09:12:20 2004 From: hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Wed Sep 8 09:14:40 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <2B1A983EDCEC3447B22632B64F7264600DE8E5@bill.office.computel.nl> Message-ID: <004601c495be$a149a6e0$6501a8c0@who5> Hello from Gregg C Levine I am inclined to agree with all of you. I have AT&T Worldnet's DSL service, which is supplied by Covad. As I understand that, it turns out that the commercial side of AT&T's activities are also jointly supplied by Covad. They are in the exact same position that the clueless ISP is, that the fellow complained about in an earlier message. I run here, yes Windows, and Linux. They completely support Windows, barely support Macs, and do not support Linux. They do not even know what that is. They have a user supplied, and sometimes maintained website. It does not cover Linux or FreeBSD, or any of the BSD operating systems properly. It does not even cover the BSD operating systems. However, I suspect its because they haven't a clew as to what their own servers are running that they chose Windows to be the default OS, never realizing that it does not cover the monopoly that it was as much as five years earlier. Oh and their tech support is exactly like the fellow who started this discussion suggested. It is going to take an industrial strength miracle to straiten out these companies. And I am fresh out of them. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."? Obi-Wan Kenobi > -----Original Message----- > From: 6bone-bounces@mailman.isi.edu [mailto:6bone-bounces@mailman.isi.edu] > On Behalf Of Sander Steffann > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:02 AM > To: 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > Subject: RE: [6bone] The future > > Hi, > > Gert Doering wrote: > > > > I *really* can't understand that. People like myself invest heavily > > to get clueful and well-trained people to run the shop, and all we > > get to hear from our customers is "you are too expensive, we will > > choose the no-support-no-clue ISP round the corner". > > > > And then they complain that the ISP has no clue... > > > > Same here :( The realy difficult part is to make them understand/appreciate > the extra value they get for their money... > > There will always be people that only look at the price and not at the > service, but we decided long ago that we don't even want those people as our > customers. > > Sander. > > _______________________________________________ > 6bone mailing list > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone From cinnion at ka8zrt.com Wed Sep 8 10:07:59 2004 From: cinnion at ka8zrt.com (Douglas Wade Needham) Date: Wed Sep 8 10:08:19 2004 Subject: DSL providers, support, and IPv6 (was Re: [6bone] The future) In-Reply-To: <004601c495be$a149a6e0$6501a8c0@who5> References: <2B1A983EDCEC3447B22632B64F7264600DE8E5@bill.office.computel.nl> <004601c495be$a149a6e0$6501a8c0@who5> Message-ID: <20040908170759.GA28233@pell.home.ka8zrt.com> Tell me about it Greg. I get my service directly from Covad, and have asked a number of times about IPv6. And yes, they are clueless when it comes to anything other than Windoze, and mostly clueless even then. Over the past two years, I have had problems where my DSL router stops talking on the WAN side (problems with SBC at the CO about 70% of the time), and where other times occasionally I will go through a period where the LAN side stops talking. Their response was "well, we want you to unplug the DSL router...", without any attempt to collect proper diagnostics. And one time, some moron tech claimed that I was too close to the DSLAM (I am under 1700'), and wanted to set my speed down. If they had paid any attention to me and the years of IP experience I gained getting places like Ohio State and CompuServe on the net, they would have headed off a couple of problems in their backbone network (I detected a failing router interface 3 weeks before it failed and they suffered an outage of nearly 20 hours). But instead, most of their tier 1 techs are clueless and follow a script. They have no idea how to handle the fact that I connect via a NetBSD firewall, and have a number of times wanted me to connect a Windoze PC directly to the router. Fortunately, I have hammered them and the tier 1 support management enough times with enough volume of diagnostics (like pings, packet traces, etc.) that I can get routed to tier 2 about 50% of the time. And I was also lucky enough to finally get someone at Zyxel to put me in touch with one of their techs, from whom I got a FW update which seems to have lessened the the LAN side locking up. But Covad was still thinking of replacing my current router with some different brand which has nowhere near the capabilities (no SNMP, no serial console), and does seem to require Windoze to manage, so I said "No Thanks". Would I switch? Not unless there was one who was proven to know about UN*X, had static IPs and high speeds (I plan on upgrading to 3000/768 when I get a new job), and was actively talking IPv6 as well. My friends who use SBC or the other providers we seem to have here in central Ohio seem to have the same problems, so I will stick with stupidity I know and can sometimes manipulate rather than having to go through the learning curve with some other provider. Besides, word seems to have spread a bit through the tier 2 techs that I know what I am talking about, and generally have some good diagnostics by the time I call them. Shoot, last time I called, the tech knew that there was a diagram of my network in my support records. 8) - Doug Quoting Gregg C Levine (hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net): > Hello from Gregg C Levine > I am inclined to agree with all of you. > I have AT&T Worldnet's DSL service, which is supplied by Covad. As I > understand that, it turns out that the commercial side of AT&T's > activities are also jointly supplied by Covad. They are in the exact > same position that the clueless ISP is, that the fellow complained > about in an earlier message. I run here, yes Windows, and Linux. They > completely support Windows, barely support Macs, and do not support > Linux. They do not even know what that is. They have a user supplied, > and sometimes maintained website. It does not cover Linux or FreeBSD, > or any of the BSD operating systems properly. It does not even cover > the BSD operating systems. > > However, I suspect its because they haven't a clew as to what their > own servers are running that they chose Windows to be the default OS, > never realizing that it does not cover the monopoly that it was as > much as five years earlier. > > Oh and their tech support is exactly like the fellow who started this > discussion suggested. > > It is going to take an industrial strength miracle to straiten out > these companies. And I am fresh out of them. > ------------------- > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi > "Use the Force, Luke."? Obi-Wan Kenobi > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 6bone-bounces@mailman.isi.edu > [mailto:6bone-bounces@mailman.isi.edu] > > On Behalf Of Sander Steffann > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:02 AM > > To: 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > > Subject: RE: [6bone] The future > > > > Hi, > > > > Gert Doering wrote: > > > > > > I *really* can't understand that. People like myself invest > heavily > > > to get clueful and well-trained people to run the shop, and all we > > > get to hear from our customers is "you are too expensive, we will > > > choose the no-support-no-clue ISP round the corner". > > > > > > And then they complain that the ISP has no clue... > > > > > > > Same here :( The realy difficult part is to make them > understand/appreciate > > the extra value they get for their money... > > > > There will always be people that only look at the price and not at > the > > service, but we decided long ago that we don't even want those > people as our > > customers. > > > > Sander. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 6bone mailing list > > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone > > _______________________________________________ > 6bone mailing list > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone -- Douglas Wade Needham - KA8ZRT UN*X Consultant & UW/BSD kernel programmer Email: cinnion @ ka8zrt . com http://cinnion.ka8zrt.com Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Since I don't want them, why should my employer, or anybody else for that matter! From jeroen at unfix.org Wed Sep 8 10:07:53 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Wed Sep 8 10:09:20 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <004601c495be$a149a6e0$6501a8c0@who5> References: <004601c495be$a149a6e0$6501a8c0@who5> Message-ID: <1094663272.8934.74.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 18:12, Gregg C Levine wrote: > Hello from Gregg C Levine > I am inclined to agree with all of you. > I have AT&T Worldnet's DSL service, which is supplied by Covad. As I > understand that, it turns out that the commercial side of AT&T's > activities are also jointly supplied by Covad. They are in the exact > same position that the clueless ISP is, that the fellow complained > about in an earlier message. I run here, yes Windows, and Linux. They > completely support Windows, barely support Macs, and do not support > Linux. They do not even know what that is. They have a user supplied, > and sometimes maintained website. It does not cover Linux or FreeBSD, > or any of the BSD operating systems properly. It does not even cover > the BSD operating systems. Ehmm.... you should consider that they are *END USER* support. And as the typical (99% or so) of the end users, of which they make their money don't run any of the linux/bsd or other variants and typically thus run Windows why the heck should they care about the fact that you are running some kind of OS, with which they won't make revenue? Nevertheless, setting up something like that should not require support, only DHCP and otherwise IP,netmask,DNS and you are off, the support is in google ;) Gert and Daniel where talking about commercial clients going to 'commercial grade' ISP's which are cheap... and then not getting any support ;) Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Comcast and Cox communications, for example, both >>> automatically delegate IPv6 addresses to users who have IPv6 >>> installed (or kernel compiled) on their computers. >> >> How do they do that? Statically routing a /48 or /64? > > The only thing comcast 'does' is allow proto-41 to work. > The thing those people are using is called 6to4, which is yet another > tunneling mechanism and is nowhere near native IPv6. > > Afaik Comcast uses DOCSIS modems and those babys don't do IPv6. AFAIK, DOCSIS does layer 2 bridging, so it could work. Ever hopeful, I just now started up "rtsold" on the interface serviced by Comcast (Chicago), but alas, nothing answered the router solicitations. Frederick From jeroen at unfix.org Wed Sep 8 23:45:03 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Wed Sep 8 23:46:50 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> <1094638489.2078.79.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: <1094712303.12465.2.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 03:28, isabella wrote: > Hi, > Someone said something about DOCSIS not supporting IPv6 and that made me > curious. Googling i found some people are saying YES! and others NO!. The > most authoritive info was on cisco.com that says: > "Today, IPv6 services can be offered on Cisco UBR7200 Series cable routers > by configuring IPv6 over IPv4 tunnels, but native IPv6 requires an update to > the DOCSIS? specifications. As an active contributor to the Cable Labs > efforts, Cisco will work with Cable Labs to incorporate IPv6 support into > future DOCSIS specifications" As mentioned there it is *not* in the specs, tunneling can be done by most of them, especially as this is merely a bridge, but unfortunately most DOCSIS's apparently don't do it per default the correct way thus you won't get native IPv6, but then again, your ISP also needs to provide it too you... On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 03:53, Frederick Bruckman wrote: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 11:10, Daniel Roesen wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:05:05PM -0700, Allan Vejvoda wrote: > >>> Some ISPs already delegate IPv6 addresses when users connect to > >>> the internet. Comcast and Cox communications, for example, both > >>> automatically delegate IPv6 addresses to users who have IPv6 > >>> installed (or kernel compiled) on their computers. > >> > >> How do they do that? Statically routing a /48 or /64? > > > > The only thing comcast 'does' is allow proto-41 to work. > > The thing those people are using is called 6to4, which is yet another > > tunneling mechanism and is nowhere near native IPv6. > > > > Afaik Comcast uses DOCSIS modems and those babys don't do IPv6. > > AFAIK, DOCSIS does layer 2 bridging, so it could work. Ever hopeful, > I just now started up "rtsold" on the interface serviced by Comcast > (Chicago), but alas, nothing answered the router solicitations. People saying they have IPv6 at comcast either are using some very unknown beta service or are simply using 6to4, which should simply 'work' when you type 'ipv6 install' on an XP box, given that it might also do Teredo if 6to4 fails. Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/attachments/20040909/bfaec736/attachment.bin From iljitsch at muada.com Thu Sep 9 01:26:43 2004 From: iljitsch at muada.com (Iljitsch van Beijnum) Date: Thu Sep 9 01:27:28 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: <1094712303.12465.2.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> <1094638489.2078.79.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> <1094712303.12465.2.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: On 9-sep-04, at 8:45, Jeroen Massar wrote: > People saying they have IPv6 at comcast either are using some very > unknown beta service or are simply using 6to4, which should simply > 'work' when you type 'ipv6 install' on an XP box, given that it might > also do Teredo if 6to4 fails. So there are Teredo servers/relays/whatever now? I've found that if you want IPv6 support from an ISP you generally have to get them to hire you to install it. :-) From jeroen at unfix.org Thu Sep 9 01:34:27 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Thu Sep 9 01:35:25 2004 Subject: [6bone] The future In-Reply-To: References: <20040908040505.CF3FE3936@sitemail.everyone.net> <20040908091004.GA14809@srv01.cluenet.de> <1094638489.2078.79.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> <1094712303.12465.2.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: <1094718867.12465.14.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:26, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 9-sep-04, at 8:45, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > > People saying they have IPv6 at comcast either are using some very > > unknown beta service or are simply using 6to4, which should simply > > 'work' when you type 'ipv6 install' on an XP box, given that it might > > also do Teredo if 6to4 fails. > > So there are Teredo servers/relays/whatever now? I said it works, I didn't say that it would perform, the same with 6to4, it all depends on where the relay is (latency) and how crowded, how much bandwidth it allows and never forget that there is also a path back... and with the current state of the IPv6 routing tables towards such addresses it might not be fast at all. But it all depends on conditions, the moon, the sun alignment etc ;) But it *does* work, one gets connectivity. Afaik there are currently only a few number of (public) Teredo relays: - The Microsoft 'default' one, which is thus in the US (don't know if it is anycasted but afaik it isn't) - teredo.ipv6.6wind.com (http://www-rp.lip6.fr/teredo/) And I guess, the third implementation, (Miredo / http://www.simphalempin.com/dev/miredo/) will have some relay somewhere too... > I've found that if you want IPv6 support from an ISP you generally have > to get them to hire you to install it. :-) That is also a solution, or just use one of the several tunnelbrokers around the world. The biggest of which all support NAT's too ;) Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/attachments/20040909/579ffa3d/attachment.bin From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 06:18:35 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Thu Sep 9 06:20:47 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally References: <40FEAC71.1020103@fpsn.net><20040722072745.GI467@Space.Net><1090495830.16467.544.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: Earlier in this thread I said :- | | Ideally I would to be able to, as advised not long ago in here have :- | | www.minitutorials.com AAAA + A | www.v4.minitutorials.com A | www.v6.minitutorials.com AAAA | This has now been done, using Sitelutions - thanks Allan !! Although I got the syntax above a bit wrong. I now have :- http://www.minitutorials.com AAAA + A http://minitutorials.com AAAA + A http://v4.minitutorials.com A http://v6.minitutorials.com AAAA and seems to work a treat, again though as pointed out by Gert, I am using my internal network to test this, some v6 enabled, some not , and works (or not) as it should. Anyone like to confirm this for me please.? As of 09/09/04 9:00PM Australia WST so dont know how long the before other DNS will get updated. Thanks Gav... --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 6/09/2004 From cfaber at fpsn.net Thu Sep 9 17:36:52 2004 From: cfaber at fpsn.net (Colin Faber) Date: Thu Sep 9 17:38:51 2004 Subject: [6bone] Wifi IPv6 via sveasoft's Linksys WRT54G wifi AP router firmware upgrade. Message-ID: <4140F724.4050804@fpsn.net> Hi folks, I just thought I'd pass along this information. I have been able to successfully setup an WEP encrypted WDS link between two remote sites which have successfully transparently passed all desired IPv6 traffic from one side to the other with out any problems. From gert at space.net Fri Sep 10 09:48:38 2004 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Fri Sep 10 09:50:10 2004 Subject: [6bone] Wifi IPv6 via sveasoft's Linksys WRT54G wifi AP router firmware upgrade. In-Reply-To: <4140F724.4050804@fpsn.net> References: <4140F724.4050804@fpsn.net> Message-ID: <20040910164838.GG467@Space.Net> Hi, On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 06:36:52PM -0600, Colin Faber wrote: > I just thought I'd pass along this information. I have been able to > successfully setup an WEP encrypted WDS link between two remote sites > which have successfully transparently passed all desired IPv6 traffic > from one side to the other with out any problems. Should this be a reason to celebrate? Unless I'm mistaken, WEP and WLAN-Access in general should be about as transparent as a normal Ethernet switch, which is completely agnostic to IP, IPv6, IPX, or whatever... (Just for the records: using IPv6 over my ancient Apple Airport Base Station works perfectly. Of course the Airport BS doesn't support IPv6 routing, or PPP login to an ISP with IPv6 - now *that* would be something to celebrate...) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 66629 (65398) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299 From jordi.palet at consulintel.es Fri Sep 10 10:32:06 2004 From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ) Date: Fri Sep 10 10:34:05 2004 Subject: [6bone] Wifi IPv6 via sveasoft's Linksys WRT54G wifi AP routerfirmware upgrade. References: <4140F724.4050804@fpsn.net> <20040910164838.GG467@Space.Net> Message-ID: <175f01c4975c$1f2a5570$640a0a0a@consulintel.es> We have installed IPv6 in a Linksys unit, but we included routing, and all kind of L3 features, and still working on adding some more interesting stuff, like for example PANA. We are also considering including UPnP so it can be used to control home automation devices ;-) Regards, Jordi ---- Original Message ---- From: "Gert Doering" To: "Colin Faber" Cc: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [6bone] Wifi IPv6 via sveasoft's Linksys WRT54G wifi AP routerfirmware upgrade. > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 06:36:52PM -0600, Colin Faber wrote: >> I just thought I'd pass along this information. I have been able to >> successfully setup an WEP encrypted WDS link between two remote sites >> which have successfully transparently passed all desired IPv6 traffic >> from one side to the other with out any problems. > > Should this be a reason to celebrate? Unless I'm mistaken, WEP and > WLAN-Access in general should be about as transparent as a normal > Ethernet switch, which is completely agnostic to IP, IPv6, IPX, or > whatever... > > (Just for the records: using IPv6 over my ancient Apple Airport Base > Station works perfectly. Of course the Airport BS doesn't support > IPv6 routing, or PPP login to an ISP with IPv6 - now *that* would be > something to celebrate...) > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. From Toomas.Soome at microlink.ee Fri Sep 10 11:44:20 2004 From: Toomas.Soome at microlink.ee (Toomas Soome) Date: Fri Sep 10 11:46:00 2004 Subject: [6bone] Wifi IPv6 via sveasoft's Linksys WRT54G wifi AP router firmware upgrade. In-Reply-To: <20040910164838.GG467@Space.Net> References: <4140F724.4050804@fpsn.net> <20040910164838.GG467@Space.Net> Message-ID: <4141F604.6070405@microlink.ee> Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 06:36:52PM -0600, Colin Faber wrote: > >>I just thought I'd pass along this information. I have been able to >>successfully setup an WEP encrypted WDS link between two remote sites >>which have successfully transparently passed all desired IPv6 traffic >>from one side to the other with out any problems. > > > Should this be a reason to celebrate? Unless I'm mistaken, WEP and > WLAN-Access in general should be about as transparent as a normal > Ethernet switch, which is completely agnostic to IP, IPv6, IPX, or > whatever... well, depends... my linksys unit is unusable with any fiwmware I have used so far, usually it will hung itself within ~1-1.5 day without any wifi traffic at all.... so, celebrate while you can...:) toomas From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 05:30:31 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Mon Sep 13 05:32:45 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 website still not resolved, sorry. References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: Allan, thanks for replying, copying this to the list one more time to try and get this thing licked once and for all, if there is a problem in my setup, then yes, the httpd.conf file is where I guess it would be - or it could be in the conf file of my Freenet6 tunnel, I am still not sure that I have configured it to broadcast on the correct interface. I can connect to any v6 only sites no problem. However, it is difficult for me to track the problem as I don't have access to an IPv6 enabled machine 'outside' of my network. It works perfect inside the network, which I find strange as the internal computers still have to go 'outside' to the internet, to DNS servers to FREENET6 , to sitelutions etc and then back into the network to my Server. I am giving now all relevant info , if any more is required please let me know. A ipv4 only computer, works as expected - it can connect to www.minitutorials.com, http://minitutorials.com, http://v4.minitutorials.com no problems but can not access http://v6.minitutorials.com. An IPv6 enabled computer can access all sites including http://v6.minitutorials.com which has been configured as v6 only in the DNS settings of my sitelutions account. Both IPv4 and IPv6 connections are reflected correctly in the script at the bottom of each page on the site. Can you see this script ok, does it recognise your connection as v6 ? As for Apache and httpd.conf. Initially I had problems enabling Apache 2 for IPv6, the binary release (I am using Windows) does NOT have v6 enabled on it but had to be compiled it, which I got from Kato, I know this is working as it accepts v6 addresses in the Listen and VirtualHost directives (whereas my original binary with v6 support would not). The relevant parts of my httpd.conf file are as follows, I may change this shortly, but this is the only configuration where I have got it to work on my computers here within the network. .. .. Listen [::]:80 <---- Currently using this as advised in 6bone, gloms onto all v6 addresses. Listen 0.0.0.0:80 #Listen [3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b] <---- This is my tunnel endpoint address assigned by Freenet6, not tried this yet. .. .. #NamevirtualHost [3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b] <----Freenet6 Tunnel again. Not used. NameVirtualHost *:80 NameVirtualHost *[3ffe::]:80 <---- Interesting how this lets the server start, tried [::]:80 and server would not start. .. .. ServerName minitutorials.serveftp.net ServerAlias www.minitutorials.com minitutorials.com www.minitutorials.serveftp.net ServerAdmin webmaster@minitutorials.com DocumentRoot "/minitutorials" #(path altered) ErrorLog "logs/minitutorials.com-error_log" CustomLog logs/minitutorials.com-access_log combined UseCanonicalName off AddHandler server-parsed .shtml Options Indexes FollowSymLinks +Includes ExecCGI AddType text/html .shtml AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml .. ServerName v6.minitutorials.com ServerAlias www.minitutorials.com minitutorials.com www.minitutorials.serveftp.net ServerAdmin webmaster@minitutorials.com DocumentRoot "/minitutorialsv6" #( path altered) ErrorLog "logs/minitutorialsv6.com-error_log" CustomLog logs/minitutorialsv6.com-access_log combined UseCanonicalName off AddHandler server-parsed .shtml Options Indexes FollowSymLinks +Includes ExecCGI AddType text/html .shtml AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml .. # The second VirtualHost above has no effect, does not get served, so first default is used. Relevent details of Freenet6 tspc.conf file server=tsps2.freenet6.net if_tunnel=2 <---- See ipv6if.txt, is this right ? (I see the new client does not use this) host_type=router <---- Assumed this setting, other option was 'host' , not sure if this is right ?? prefixlen=48 if_prefix=4 <---- Interface used for router advertisement. See ipv6if.txt ? #DNS Server for reverse DNS #dns_server= <--- Not used currently, what does this need to be.? Now that freenet6 is hexago, maybe I need to download and configure a new client.? Anyone from hexago/freenet6 here to confirm this/my setup. doing an ipv6 if tells me that :- (file attached showing output) Interface 2 is Automatic Tunnelling Pseudo Interface , preferred global of 3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b - Freenet6 tunnel endpoint. Interface 4 is Local Area Connection NIC to internet via cable modem, output does not look right though. netstat -an shows .. TCP: [::]:80 [::]:0 LISTENING 0 .. Dont know what else to give you guys that might help. Gav... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Vejvoda" To: "Gav" Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [6bone] Ipv6 Enabled Web Site - Finally |I was unable to connect to the IPv6 portion of your website, though, I have been able to resolve your website address to: | | [DNS] Canonical: www.minitutorials.com Numerical: 3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b | [DNS] Numerical: 203.121.204.130 | | Which means your domain points to both IPv6 and IPv4. However, you will need to configure your webserver for an IPv6 port. Apache 1.x requires a special 1.x+ipv6 version, and Apache 2 fully supports IPv6 by default. This will need to be done in the httpd.conf file, by the Listen block. --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 6/09/2004 -------------- next part -------------- Interface 6: Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Guid {C67D0EFF-9E56-47CD-BC32-6BA759002B62} zones: link 6 site 3 cable unplugged uses Neighbor Discovery uses Router Discovery routing preference 2 link-layer address: 0.0.0.0:0 preferred link-local fe80::5445:5245:444f, life infinite multicast interface-local ff01::1, 1 refs, not reportable multicast link-local ff02::1, 1 refs, not reportable link MTU 1280 (true link MTU 1280) current hop limit 128 reachable time 15500ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 0 default site prefix length 48 Interface 5: Ethernet: Local Area Connection 2 Guid {3CC591E3-6C65-4EB7-8367-C86C3A14F54F} zones: link 5 site 2 uses Neighbor Discovery uses Router Discovery sends Router Advertisements forwards packets link-layer address: 00-02-b3-5b-9e-5f preferred global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:d836:a586:bd99:f80f, life 47h58m10s/28m10s (temporary) 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ff02::2, 1 refs, last reporter multicast site-local ff05::2, 1 refs, last reporter anycast site-local fec0:0:0:5:: multicast link-local ff02::1:ff00:0, 2 refs, last reporter anycast global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:: multicast link-local ff02::1:ffe4:65f8, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff7b:fa4e, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff21:61e1, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ffc8:1cc6, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff6a:c1eb, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff9c:51b9, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff99:f80f, 1 refs, last reporter link MTU 1500 (true link MTU 1500) current hop limit 128 reachable time 26000ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 1 default site prefix length 48 Interface 4: Ethernet: Local Area Connection Guid {7981264D-58F7-4F70-98E2-613FF4BD5BF4} zones: link 4 site 2 uses Neighbor Discovery uses Router Discovery forwards packets link-layer address: 00-40-f4-8b-bf-c2 preferred global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:11f4:d03:d164:5221, life 47h58m10s/28m10s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:c161:351d:4c03:6450, life 47h58m10s/0s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:604d:bcd1:6e35:3edd, life 47h58m10s/0s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:9c1b:a3e4:98:88ff, life 47h58m10s/0s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:edd3:5643:4d46:e77c, life 47h58m10s/0s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:b4db:d922:fa54:333e, life 35h29m12s/0s (temporary) deprecated global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:45a0:c7bb:470a:d10a, life 11h32m4s/0s (temporary) preferred global 2002:cb79:cc82:5:240:f4ff:fe8b:bfc2, life 47h58m10s/28m10s (public) preferred site-local fec0::5:240:f4ff:fe8b:bfc2, life 47h58m10s/28m10s (public) preferred link-local fe80::240:f4ff:fe8b:bfc2, life infinite multicast interface-local ff01::1, 1 refs, not reportable multicast link-local ff02::1, 1 refs, not reportable multicast link-local ff02::1:ff8b:bfc2, 3 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff0a:d10a, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff54:333e, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff46:e77c, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff98:88ff, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff35:3edd, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff03:6450, 1 refs, last reporter multicast link-local ff02::1:ff64:5221, 1 refs, last reporter link MTU 1500 (true link MTU 1500) current hop limit 128 reachable time 29000ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 1 default site prefix length 48 Interface 3: 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Guid {A995346E-9F3E-2EDB-47D1-9CC7BA01CD73} does not use Neighbor Discovery does not use Router Discovery forwards packets routing preference 1 preferred global 2002:cb79:cc82::cb79:cc82, life infinite link MTU 1280 (true link MTU 65515) current hop limit 128 reachable time 27500ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 0 default site prefix length 48 Interface 2: Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Guid {48FCE3FC-EC30-E50E-F1A7-71172AEEE3AE} does not use Neighbor Discovery does not use Router Discovery forwards packets routing preference 1 EUI-64 embedded IPv4 address: 0.0.0.0 router link-layer address: 0.0.0.0 preferred link-local fe80::5efe:203.121.204.130, life infinite preferred link-local fe80::5efe:192.168.0.1, life infinite preferred global 3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b, life infinite (manual) link MTU 1280 (true link MTU 65515) current hop limit 128 reachable time 22500ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 0 default site prefix length 48 Interface 1: Loopback Pseudo-Interface Guid {6BD113CC-5EC2-7638-B953-0B889DA72014} zones: link 1 site 4 does not use Neighbor Discovery does not use Router Discovery link-layer address: preferred link-local ::1, life infinite preferred link-local fe80::1, life infinite link MTU 1500 (true link MTU 4294967295) current hop limit 128 reachable time 42500ms (base 30000ms) retransmission interval 1000ms DAD transmits 0 default site prefix length 48 From jeroen at unfix.org Mon Sep 13 06:21:43 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Mon Sep 13 06:22:40 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 website still not resolved, sorry. In-Reply-To: References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <1095081703.2608.351.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 14:30, Gav wrote: > Allan, thanks for replying, copying this to the list one more time to try > and get this thing licked once and for all, if there is a problem in my > setup, then yes, the httpd.conf file is where I guess it would be - or it > could be in the conf file of my Freenet6 tunnel, I am still not sure that I > have configured it to broadcast on the correct interface. I can connect to > any v6 only sites no problem. > > However, it is difficult for me to track the problem as I don't have access > to an IPv6 enabled machine 'outside' of my network. It works perfect inside > the network, which I find strange as the internal computers still have to go > 'outside' to the internet, to DNS servers to FREENET6 , to sitelutions etc > and then back into the network to my Server. traceroute6 to v6.minitutorials.com shows a looping route: 6 viagenie.ipv6.intouch.net (3ffe:b00:c18::60) 126.332 ms 125.331 ms 131.78 ms 7 3ffe:b00:c18:1::115 (3ffe:b00:c18:1::115) 132.802 ms 138.968 ms 132.213 ms 8 rap.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca (3ffe:b00:c18:1:290:27ff:fe17:fc0f) 125.978 ms 125.379 ms 125.598 ms 9 3ffe:b00:c18:1::115 (3ffe:b00:c18:1::115) 131.557 ms 133.151 ms 134.648 ms This maybe has to do with the fact that Freenet6 is moved from Viagenie to Hexago. Hexago is also switching to the new prefixes and TSP client etc... In either way their routing broken and you are using the old prefixes. You should contact their support contact and ask them, asking here is a bit futile except that people can maybe say 'it is broken here too' but as I don't think anyone has access to their machines or routes it won't help much, it would only be complaining in the void as they won't notice and thus can't help you to fix it. Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/attachments/20040913/b3ec2989/attachment.bin From gert at space.net Mon Sep 13 06:28:13 2004 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Mon Sep 13 06:28:40 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 website still not resolved, sorry. In-Reply-To: References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20040913132813.GM467@Space.Net> Hi, On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 08:30:31PM +0800, Gav wrote: > However, it is difficult for me to track the problem as I don't have access > to an IPv6 enabled machine 'outside' of my network. It works perfect inside > the network, which I find strange as the internal computers still have to go > 'outside' to the internet, to DNS servers to FREENET6 , to sitelutions etc > and then back into the network to my Server. Chances are high that all the DNS stuff is done over IPv4 transport. Right now, your machine isn't reachable over IPv6 due to a routing loop between viagenie and "someone": traceroute6 to www.minitutorials.com (3ffe:bc0:8000::3c6b) from 2001:608:0:1::100, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 Cisco-M-VI-E1-2.Space.Net (2001:608:0:1::1) 1.052 ms 0.877 ms 0.844 ms 2 3ffe:b00:c18::6c (3ffe:b00:c18::6c) 136.691 ms 136.356 ms 135.935 ms 3 3ffe:b00:c18:1::115 (3ffe:b00:c18:1::115) 142.677 ms 142.486 ms 142.643 ms 4 rap.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca (3ffe:b00:c18:1:290:27ff:fe17:fc0f) 136.872 ms 135.745 ms 134.801 ms 5 3ffe:b00:c18:1::115 (3ffe:b00:c18:1::115) 141.632 ms 141.734 ms 144.239 ms 6 rap.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca (3ffe:b00:c18:1:290:27ff:fe17:fc0f) 136.107 ms 135.463 ms 135.027 ms 7 3ffe:b00:c18:1::115 (3ffe:b00:c18:1::115) 141.779 ms 143.703 ms 141.607 ms 8 rap.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca (3ffe:b00:c18:1:290:27ff:fe17:fc0f) 135.897 ms 134.970 ms 136.327 ms Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 66629 (65398) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299 From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 15:54:18 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:56:49 2004 Subject: [6bone] Ipv6 website still not resolved, sorry. References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net> <1095081703.2608.351.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks Guys, will probably download new client from Hexago and see if that cures it. I will also point the fault out to Hexago/viagenie , as I guess a lot of people are broken now. Typical, another problem thrown in right at the end just to confuse me :) Gav... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeroen Massar" To: "Gav" Cc: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [6bone] Ipv6 website still not resolved, sorry. | _______________________________________________ | 6bone mailing list | 6bone@mailman.isi.edu | http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone | --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 6/09/2004 From jeroen at unfix.org Sun Sep 19 04:28:48 2004 From: jeroen at unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) Date: Sun Sep 19 04:31:01 2004 Subject: [6bone] New Ghost Route Hunter Utility: Prefix Compare Message-ID: <1095593327.1978.8395.camel@firenze.zurich.ibm.com> Always wonder what was wrong with a prefix? Wondering which ISP's are not able to reach you and where it stops? GRH (Ghost Router Hunter *1) now has a new utility for doing prefix comparisons (*2). This feature was requested by Daniel R?sen for the purpose of comparing: 2001:5000::/21 with 2001:650::/32 (*3). Which are originated from the same ASN, but as the /21 is filtered at some places, have different or no paths to the participants (*4) that provide routes to GRH and many more ISP"s around the world. This utility thus allows you to see which participants of GRH do have the routes in question and the difference in the paths towards those participants. This allows a very quick view where a prefix is not accepted, most possibly of misconfigured filters. People who don't have, for instance, 2001:5000::/21 in their BGP, please figure out where the filtering is wrongly applied by looking at the utility and applying the current set of recommended filters, available from: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html It is good to see that ISP's have prefix filtering, but they really should update them. Though I'd rather see no prefix filtering but that they do RPF filtering on their customers. When you have (near) 0 IPv6 prefixes in your BGP, then you better start catching on ;) At the moment of writing you should have at least IPv6 499 prefixes, as then you have all the allocated, and currently announced, TLA's in your router, if you have less you are missing a number of them. For interested ISP's, GRH signup is, of course, free and can be done through the website (*5), the more peers join, the better the statistics of all the GRH utilities will be. Also, if you, like Daniel, miss a good utility, don't hesitate to bring it up. I would also like to thank all the already participating ISP's for providing their tables which have made it able to fix a large number of problems already over the almost 2 years GRH has been running. Last but not least, thanks to Daniel R?sen for the brilliant idea. Greets, Jeroen *1 = http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ *2 = http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/compare/ *3 = http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/compare/?a=2001:5000::/21&b=2001:650::/32 *4 = http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/participants/ *5 = http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/signup/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In either way: contact the vendor complain that they don't support IPv6 and that you wanted it yesterday and that if they don't have it you will go to a vendor that does ;) Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/attachments/20040921/627770da/attachment.bin From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 04:39:29 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Thu Sep 30 04:39:21 2004 Subject: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net><1095081703.2608.351.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: On the 14th September I wrote : | Ok, thanks Guys, will probably download new client from Hexago and see if | that cures it. | I will also point the fault out to Hexago/viagenie , as I guess a lot of | people are broken now. So, to update on those interested in this saga... I have been in communication with Jean-Francois Tremblay of Freenet 6 support and fingers crossed, everything seems to be fine now. (great support btw, thanks) Having downloaded the SP2 update for XP a while back, the old client and the newer client available on the website were not compatible. JF sent me a newer version that works for SP2 users. Its early days yet but I have had no dropouts over the last couple of days and JF confirmed that my site could be reached via IPv6. The SP2 compatible release is now available on the Freenet6 website for those that might need it. I still have a niggling problem of sorts, Kame.net will not recognise my connection as being v6 although Hexago and sixxs.net both do, no idea why that is! I would still like a couple more confirmations that people can reach my site via a v6 connection just to be sure that it is not just my tunnel provider that can. http://minitutorials.com http://v6.minitutorials.com Either should read your v6 address and display it in the footer. Thanks everyone, I will let you lot get on with some real work after this :) Gav... --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 From alvaro.vives at consulintel.es Thu Sep 30 07:54:37 2004 From: alvaro.vives at consulintel.es (Alvaro Vives) Date: Thu Sep 30 07:51:21 2004 Subject: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net><1095081703.2608.351.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> Message-ID: <018501c4a6fd$69bdf550$ce00000a@consulintel.es> Hi, I have been able to connct to your web site (http://minitutorials.com) using v6 ans I see my address on the footer: "2001:800:40:2a05:2c0:26ff:fe50:1900 Remote host supports IPv6" Also I see on the central frame: "You are IPv6 Enabled". But http://v6.minitutorials.com shows a different page with some error messages like: [an error occurred while processing this directive] [an error occurred while processing this directive] Welcome to the IPv6 enabled MiniTutorials Website !!! Web Design Tutorials Hope this helps, Alvaro Vives Consulintel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gav" To: "Jeroen Massar" Cc: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update > On the 14th September I wrote : > > > | Ok, thanks Guys, will probably download new client from Hexago and see if > | that cures it. > | I will also point the fault out to Hexago/viagenie , as I guess a lot of > | people are broken now. > > So, to update on those interested in this saga... > > I have been in communication with Jean-Francois Tremblay of Freenet 6 > support > and fingers crossed, everything seems to be fine now. (great support btw, > thanks) > > Having downloaded the SP2 update for XP a while back, the old client and the > newer > client available on the website were not compatible. JF sent me a newer > version that > works for SP2 users. Its early days yet but I have had no dropouts over the > last couple > of days and JF confirmed that my site could be reached via IPv6. > > The SP2 compatible release is now available on the Freenet6 website for > those that might need it. > > I still have a niggling problem of sorts, Kame.net will not recognise my > connection as > being v6 although Hexago and sixxs.net both do, no idea why that is! > > I would still like a couple more confirmations that people can reach my site > via a v6 connection > just to be sure that it is not just my tunnel provider that can. > > http://minitutorials.com > http://v6.minitutorials.com > > Either should read your v6 address and display it in the footer. > > Thanks everyone, I will let you lot get on with some real work after this :) > > Gav... > > > --- > Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 > _______________________________________________ > 6bone mailing list > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone > ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 08:06:59 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Thu Sep 30 08:08:02 2004 Subject: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update References: <20040913015517.AA2D9725A@sitemail.everyone.net><1095081703.2608.351.camel@segesta.zurich.ibm.com> <018501c4a6fd$69bdf550$ce00000a@consulintel.es> Message-ID: Ok Thanks, I was not sure which route I was going to take, maybe a separate site for v6 enabled users. I have corrected this now and the same site should appear, I will add v6 only content using a perl script and SSI instead, saves me writing two sites. Thanks for checking. Maybe I could be added to the v6 enabled sites/servers list, http://6bone.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/ipv6/stats/stats.php3 Not sure who runs it or if it is a definitive list. ? Gav... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Vives" To: Cc: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update Hi, I have been able to connct to your web site (http://minitutorials.com) using v6 ans I see my address on the footer: "2001:800:40:2a05:2c0:26ff:fe50:1900 Remote host supports IPv6" Also I see on the central frame: "You are IPv6 Enabled". But http://v6.minitutorials.com shows a different page with some error messages like: [an error occurred while processing this directive] [an error occurred while processing this directive] Welcome to the IPv6 enabled MiniTutorials Website !!! Web Design Tutorials Hope this helps, Alvaro Vives Consulintel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gav" To: "Jeroen Massar" Cc: <6bone@mailman.isi.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: [6bone] My Ipv6 website update > On the 14th September I wrote : > > > | Ok, thanks Guys, will probably download new client from Hexago and see > if > | that cures it. > | I will also point the fault out to Hexago/viagenie , as I guess a lot of > | people are broken now. > > So, to update on those interested in this saga... > > I have been in communication with Jean-Francois Tremblay of Freenet 6 > support > and fingers crossed, everything seems to be fine now. (great support btw, > thanks) > > Having downloaded the SP2 update for XP a while back, the old client and > the > newer > client available on the website were not compatible. JF sent me a newer > version that > works for SP2 users. Its early days yet but I have had no dropouts over > the > last couple > of days and JF confirmed that my site could be reached via IPv6. > > The SP2 compatible release is now available on the Freenet6 website for > those that might need it. > > I still have a niggling problem of sorts, Kame.net will not recognise my > connection as > being v6 although Hexago and sixxs.net both do, no idea why that is! > > I would still like a couple more confirmations that people can reach my > site > via a v6 connection > just to be sure that it is not just my tunnel provider that can. > > http://minitutorials.com > http://v6.minitutorials.com > > Either should read your v6 address and display it in the footer. > > Thanks everyone, I will let you lot get on with some real work after this > :) > > Gav... > > > --- > Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 > _______________________________________________ > 6bone mailing list > 6bone@mailman.isi.edu > http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone > ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 From old_mc_donald at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 15:17:09 2004 From: old_mc_donald at hotmail.com (Gav) Date: Thu Sep 30 15:17:29 2004 Subject: [6bone] Supported Browsers Message-ID: I notice that Mozilla, Firefox and Opera all now support IPv6, but not Netscape. Any more out there anyone know of ? Thanks Gav... --- Checked for Viruses (Viri) , Gav... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 From daryl.bunce at attws.com Thu Sep 30 16:45:53 2004 From: daryl.bunce at attws.com (R/db) Date: Thu Sep 30 16:57:35 2004 Subject: [6bone] Supported Browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040930234553.GB15820@attws.com> Gav wrote: > I notice that Mozilla, Firefox and Opera all now support IPv6, but not > Netscape. > > Any more out there anyone know of ? lynx (a text-mode browser popular with the visually-impaired) http://lynx.isc.org/release/ From join at uni-muenster.de Thu Sep 30 23:03:06 2004 From: join at uni-muenster.de (Christian Schild) Date: Thu Sep 30 23:03:19 2004 Subject: [6bone] Supported Browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096610585.17680.198.camel@lemy.ipv6.uni-muenster.de> Hi Gav, Am Fr, den 01.10.2004 schrieb Gav um 0:17: > I notice that Mozilla, Firefox and Opera all now support IPv6, but not > Netscape. Please note that Netscape is based on Mozilla and therefore supports IPv6 for some time now. IPv6 support in Netscapes older versions is limited to unix platforms, but the latest version 7.2 talks IPv6 also on Windows platforms (even the mail client does). Christian -- JOIN - IPv6 reference center Christian Schild A WWU project Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster http://www.join.uni-muenster.de Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung Team: join@uni-muenster.de Roentgenstrasse 9-13 Priv: schild@uni-muenster.de D-48149 Muenster / Germany GPG-/PGP-Key-ID: 6EBFA081 Fon: +49 251 83 31638, fax: +49 251 83 31653