[6bone] Address management transfer proposal

Alexander Koch koch@tiscali.net
Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:02:10 +0100


On Tue, 31 December 2002 16:06:08 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > 	- turns 3ffe::/16 into a service which requires payment
> 
> Who/what says/defines that suddenly one has to 'pay' for 6bone space?

Jeroen,

there have been some ppl here receiving an AS number for
IPv6 multi- homing (ouch, man!) which can still be done
without being a RIPE LIR. Those ppl will surely not get a
/32 from RIPE for free, therefore they need to pay the
money. Although honestly I do not know what we will lose if
this happened, if anything at all.

> Also many people are moving on to RIR space, at least I think
> that is what you mean that with 'production' IPv6.

This is correct. I believe that as soon as we do standard
filtering on 6bone space we get ugly AS paths with all
tunnels under it with terrible round- trip- times. I see
more and more ppl saying 'ah, we need to migrate it to these
RIPE addresses' and some are even getting the point that self-
made tunnels are pointless if someone two hops down the road
has its backbone in Europe and the US on IPv6 completely...

> Give those people clue first and probably the only reason why they
> want reverse is to 'look cool on irc'. That's not a reason to do IPv6.
> One can IRC quite well with IPv4 too, but then those people will
> complain as they don't have I.am.the.ipv6.rular.net or similar crap.

I could not have put it into words better than this.

Regards,
Alexander

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