[6bone] Corporation wishing to get connected to the new v6 Internet
Matt.Carpenter@alticor.com
Matt.Carpenter@alticor.com
Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:38:33 -0400
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Thanks, Kurt!
We have not asked our ISPs about the service yet. I'm trying to gather
information before even pushing my boss to consider it, and he would end
up being involved in the ISP conversation. I'm attempting to have all my
ducks in a row before chatting with the decisionmakers, including
cost/value relationships for the various options of connectivity.
We aren't even looking to rollow out V6 internally until there is a
"customer need" that arises. I'm trying to stay ahead of the curve and
bring up the important questions before crunch time, as well as possibly
get our network playing on the V6net beforehand. But if I go to my boss
and ask him about paying our ISP for a service that our customers haven't
requested, he won't even consider what I'm trying to say. If I go to him
with my ducks in a row, offering possibly free/cheap tunnelling to get our
feet wet, and the option to pay to secure our place on the new network,
he'll have something to chew on, at least long enough to delay the "no"
into a "not yet, but perhaps <something>....".
If the IPv4 and v6 networks touch, is each ISP a little v6 bubble or is
there one cohesive v6 network which is just invisible to the v4 world?
We are considered an ISP in the v4 world, although our customers are
typically affiliated with us in some way, and one of them is a major B2C
ecommerce site. While we are interested in being a part of the new
network space, availability from the v4 Internet is key until it's death.
This may mean dual-address-spaces, I realize, but when you're selling
stuff you want to be available to as many pocketbooks as possible. Thus,
if IPv4 is accessible from all and v6 is not, the impetus is to either
stick with v4 or do both.
Thank you for your fast response. I look forward to hearing more, as well
as getting connected to the 6bone from my test net.
Matthew Carpenter
Alticor Network Services
Kurt Jaeger <lists@complx.LF.net>
08/04/2003 04:06 PM
Please respond to pi
To: Matt.Carpenter@alticor.com
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Subject: Re: [6bone] Corporation wishing to get connected to the new v6 Internet
Hi!
> <MEAT>
> I am working with my company to determine how to get involved with a
> production IPv6 Internet, as one develops.
First step: Have you asked Your ISP for v6 connectivity ?
Have you asked ISPs in your neigbourhood if they can provide v6 ?
> Are there tunnel options for that network as well?
Yes, probably.
> Or does it require a "ISP-Provided" connection?
This is preferred.
> Does one even exist currently?
Depends on your ISP.
> Does it touch the v4 Internet or is it a separate entity?
It touches the v4 net.
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MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to
go !
LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net
Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33
D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks, Kurt!</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We have not asked our ISPs about the service yet. I'm trying to gather information before even pushing my boss to consider it, and he would end up being involved in the ISP conversation. I'm attempting to have all my ducks in a row before chatting with the decisionmakers, including cost/value relationships for the various options of connectivity.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We aren't even looking to rollow out V6 internally until there is a "customer need" that arises. I'm trying to stay ahead of the curve and bring up the important questions before crunch time, as well as possibly get our network playing on the V6net beforehand. But if I go to my boss and ask him about paying our ISP for a service that our customers haven't requested, he won't even consider what I'm trying to say. If I go to him with my ducks in a row, offering possibly free/cheap tunnelling to get our feet wet, and the option to pay to secure our place on the new network, he'll have something to chew on, at least long enough to delay the "no" into a "not yet, but perhaps <something>....".</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If the IPv4 and v6 networks touch, is each ISP a little v6 bubble or is there one cohesive v6 network which is just invisible to the v4 world?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We are considered an ISP in the v4 world, although our customers are typically affiliated with us in some way, and one of them is a major B2C ecommerce site. While we are interested in being a part of the new network space, availability from the v4 Internet is key until it's death. This may mean dual-address-spaces, I realize, but when you're selling stuff you want to be available to as many pocketbooks as possible. Thus, if IPv4 is accessible from all and v6 is not, the impetus is to either stick with v4 or do both.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thank you for your fast response. I look forward to hearing more, as well as getting connected to the 6bone from my test net.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Matthew Carpenter</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Alticor Network Services</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Hi!<br>
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> <MEAT><br>
> I am working with my company to determine how to get involved with a <br>
> production IPv6 Internet, as one develops.<br>
<br>
First step: Have you asked Your ISP for v6 connectivity ?<br>
<br>
Have you asked ISPs in your neigbourhood if they can provide v6 ?<br>
<br>
> Are there tunnel options for that network as well?<br>
<br>
Yes, probably.<br>
<br>
> Or does it require a "ISP-Provided" connection?<br>
<br>
This is preferred.<br>
<br>
> Does one even exist currently?<br>
<br>
Depends on your ISP.<br>
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> Does it touch the v4 Internet or is it a separate entity?<br>
<br>
It touches the v4 net.<br>
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MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to go !<br>
LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net <br>
Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33<br>
D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372<br>
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