6bone web site unreachable over IPv6, connection refused over IPv4

[Lane, Nick]

Hello,

IP-Core Network analyst (an in-depth, analytical, monthly,
busines-2-business newsletter) is currently working on an article looking at
carrier deployment strategies for IPv6. I realise that 6Bone is an
experimental ad hoc network, but if anyone has any views, comments on the
following questions (see below), either myself or my colleague Tola Sargeant
(tola.sargeant@informa.com), would be pleased to speak to you.

Many thanks in advance

Nick Lane

Which carriers are leading v6 deployment? (In Europe? Asia? U.S.?)

How do their deployment strategies differ? Is there a difference between
incumbent and greenfield operators' strategies?

Do you agree that most seem to be building separate v6 networks (Skanova,
KPNQwest etc.)? Why, in your opinion, are they doing this?

Is this a viable long term strategy, or will they have to integrate v6 into
their v4 core network in the future? Why? When?

Deutsche Telekom expressed a preference for edge-only IPv6 networks, using
dual-stack routers - do you think this will be a common trend among
incumbent vendors going forward? Why?

Is it cheaper / easier to deploy a separate v6 network or to integrate v6
into a v4 network?

Are today's v6-only routers / dual-stack routers stable enough to deploy in
the core of networks? (which are most stable?)

Some in the industry have said that today's IPv6 is an access technology -
would you agree?

Some operators (such as BellSouth?) have said they don't plan to move to
IPv6 yet - does this put them at a disadvantage? Will they eventually have
to move to IPv6 / when?  

Several carriers have said that they don't expect to make any money from v6
for 18 months/2 years - do you agree with them? 
When do you think we can expect volume levels of IPv6 traffic?


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> ----------
> From: 	Michael Kjorling
> Sent: 	Monday, March 11, 2002 11:31 am
> To: 	6bone
> Cc: 	Bob Fink
> Subject: 	6bone web site unreachable over IPv6, connection refused
> over IPv4
> 
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> I can't reach the 6bone web site over IPv6, and when trying over IPv4
> I get a connection refused message. Is anyone else experiencing these
> problems?
> 
> Traceroute from my computer:
> 
> > [michael@varg michael]$ traceroute6 -n www.6bone.net
> > traceroute to 6bone.net (3ffe:b00:c18:1::10) from
> 2001:600:101f:0:2a0:ccff:fe52:e0a4, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
> >  1  2001:600:4:8d9::1  41.894 ms  68.622 ms  41.039 ms
> >  2  3ffe:2200::260:8ff:fea9:c09b  91.01 ms  100.123 ms  87.584 ms
> >  3  * * *
> >  4  * * *
> >  5  * ^C
> > [michael@varg michael]$ ping6 -n www.6bone.net
> > PING www.6bone.net (3ffe:b00:c18:1::10): 56 data bytes
> >
> > --- www.6bone.net ping statistics ---
> > 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
> > [michael@varg michael]$ telnet 131.243.129.44 80
> > Trying 131.243.129.44...
> > telnet: connect to address 131.243.129.44: Connection refused
> > [michael@varg michael]$ telnet www.6bone.net 80
> > Trying 3ffe:b00:c18:1::10...
> 
> It's just sitting at the "Trying...", and has been there for about
> three minutes when I am writing this. The traceroute keeps timing out
> after 3ffe:2200::260:8ff:fea9:c09b, which according to the 6bone whois
> belongs to "Slovak University of Technology, Department of Computer
> Science and Engineering", having prefix 3ffe:2200::/24 (ipv6-site
> STUBA, origin AS2607). This via IPv6 AS1846 through a tunnel
> (v6-in-v4) via IPv4 AS3246. I have no problems with IPv4 connectivity
> in general as of now.
> 
> 
> Michael Kjörling
> 
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