[6bone] 2001:478:: as /48

Christian Nickel dragon@tdoi.org
Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:13:07 +0200


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pim van Pelt" <pim@ipng.nl>
To: "Michel Py" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>
Cc: "Bill Manning" <bmanning@ISI.EDU>; <6bone@ISI.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [6bone] 2001:478:: as /48


> Hoi,
> 
> The below prefix-list used to be used by me (and possibly others) only on
> outgoing announcements. However, with all sorts of individuals
> deliberately breaking the strict aggregation model by announcing and
> transitting /48s, I sometimes saw traffic to one of my peers' customers
> networks travel wicked paths, because they do send me aggregated routes
> (thus filtering the /48) but their customers peer with other people as
> well creating a more specific in my routing tables via operators who do
> not use egress filtering.
> 
> This is why I have adapted the strict filtering in egress as well as
> ingress these days. 
> 
> By the way, looking at the 'strict' prefix list below, I would like to
> bring it to the general attention that '3ffe::/17' does no longer exist,
> since we started to use the /32 prefixes in 3ffe:4000::/18, thus
> chopping the lower half of the /16 in half. For 6bone, it is now:
> 
> 3ffe::/18 ge 24 le 24
> 3ffe:4000::/18 ge 32 le 32
> 3ffe:8000::/17 ge 28 le 28

correct is:

3ffe::/18 ge 24 le 24
for 3FFE:0000::/24 thru 3FFE:3F00::/24

3ffe:4000::/20 ge 32 le 32
3FFE:4000::/32 thru 3FFE:7FFF::/32

3ffe:8000::/18 ge 28 le 28
3FFE:8000::/28 thru 3FFE:83F0::/28


3FFE:8400::/32 thru 3FFE:FFFF::/32  is for future use

> 
> >From other places, I hear that having /48 or even /64 in the route table
> could be 'acceptable'. One might argue that an operator with a large
> router box with much memory can opt to have a 'full view' with all the
> more specifics, and an operator with a smaller box can opt to have a
> 'strict full view' with only aggregated prefixes.
> 
> Nobody will lose connectivity in the latter case, if and only if we keep
> on having at least a route to the more specific in the aggregating AS.
> For me, I'll stick to BOFH mode (ie, strict filtering) until we have a
> best common practice.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 11:35:47AM -0700, Michel Py wrote:
> | Bill,
> | 
> | I don't see it as unaggregated and I believe I'm not the only one. I
> | dropped my ipv6 prefix-lists and I have a BGP4+ feed from three
> | different pTLAs.
> | 
> | Is there any document you can point us to that specifies that it should
> | be unaggregated? It is possible that a very small portion of the 6bone
> | will actually see a /48, as my understanding is a number of us do indeed
> | use something more or less than:
> | 
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 5 permit 3ffe::/17 ge 24 le 24
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 10 permit 3ffe:8000::/17 ge 28 le 28
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 15 permit 3ffe:4000::/18 ge 32 le 32
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 20 permit 2000::/3 ge 16 le 16
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 25 permit 2001::/16 ge 29 le 35
> | ipv6 prefix-list strict seq 30 deny 2000::/3
> | 
> | [prefix-list stolen from Pim Van Pelt]
> | 
> | Michel.
> | 
> | 
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: Bill Manning [mailto:bmanning@ISI.EDU] 
> | Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:17 AM
> | To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
> | Cc: Bill Manning
> | Subject: [6bone] 2001:478:: as /48
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | this prefix has/is being carved up into /48 and /64 subnets for
> | use at exchange points and other infrastructure support services.
> | 
> | Do not expect to see it aggregated. 
> | 
> | -- bill manning
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