pTLA request for RMNET - review closes 23 April 2002

[Jeroen Massar]

Michel Py wrote:

> Pekka,
> 
> >> Bob Fink wrote:
> >> If you think there is something wrong with this, please say more.
> 
> > Pekka Savola wrote:
> > If I was serious about experimenting with IPv6, I sure would not
> > go overseas to find someone who might be willing to slice off a
> > part of a block.  However, if I was not serious, I wouldn't care if
> > all my IPv6 traffic to European countries crossed the 
> Atlantic twice.
> 
> I have to disagree with you on this point. I am in 
> California, and the first tunnel I got was from Viagénie in 
> Québec. Yes, I could have asked Hurricane Electric, or I 
> could have asked Bob Fink, or I could have asked Cisco.
> 
> Who cares if my average RTT to Viagénie is 92ms? Not me. 
> There are ways to adjust network latency in Quake v6 (the 
> only IPv6 real application as of today, I think?)
I personally use on day by day basis, IPv6 enabled:
 - SSH (PuTTY :)
 - SMTP
 - Quake 1 + 2*
 - HTTP
 - X

Can't say IMAP unfortunatly, I will have to wait till my Outlooky
understands it.
Serverside (courier ;) does it already though. But mail goes out and
comes in over IPv6 whenever possible.
And many other applications go used unnoticed.

* = http://games.concepts.nl, which will be native quite soon from
Amsterdam to Breda (almost cross country ;)
QuakeWorld & Quake2 patches provided courtesy of Viagenie!

Oh and I *do* care about latency... If you are doing transatlantic
_twice_ you have at least in a sunnyweather condition 2x 80ms.
That's 160ms already, typing (ssh), quaking, remote X'ing etc with 160ms
is not nice :)

<SNIP>

> As far as I am concerned, the geographical location of a pTLA 
> does not matter (I have a tunnel with UK, too). There are 
> situations where the link to someone geographically close 
> will be worse than someone at the other end of a continent. 
> To some extent, I think that cross-ocean tunnels are a 
> guarantee that the 6bone will not be used for production.
You've got a point there :)
Though I think most people will profit from good latency.
That's why one can take multiple tunnels and do some nice routing
based on that -> testing, experimenting -> <fillinyour>bone :)

Fortunatly these folks are requesting a pTLA so they can soon announce
their
block over as many tunnels they can lay their hands on and improve their
latency and uhaul packeting.

Greets,
 Jeroen