pTLA request for RMNET - review closes 23 April 2002

Michel Py michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us
Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:34:23 -0700


Pekka,

>> Bob Fink wrote:
>> If you think there is something wrong with this, please say more.

> Pekka Savola wrote:
> If I was serious about experimenting with IPv6, I sure would not
> go overseas to find someone who might be willing to slice off a
> part of a block.  However, if I was not serious, I wouldn't care if
> all my IPv6 traffic to European countries crossed the Atlantic twice.

I have to disagree with you on this point. I am in California, and the first tunnel I got was from Viagénie in Québec. Yes, I could have asked Hurricane Electric, or I could have asked Bob Fink, or I could have asked Cisco.

Who cares if my average RTT to Viagénie is 92ms? Not me. There are ways to adjust network latency in Quake v6 (the only IPv6 real application as of today, I think?)

> In real use this just would *not* have been acceptable.

The 6bone is _not_ real world. There is no real world, as of today. When we get native links, it will be time to re-assess the situation.
(Bob, I can provide you with a repeater in Sacramento when you lay out that dark fiber between Berkeley and Truckee ;-)


As far as I am concerned, the geographical location of a pTLA does not matter (I have a tunnel with UK, too). There are situations where the link to someone geographically close will be worse than someone at the other end of a continent. To some extent, I think that cross-ocean tunnels are a guarantee that the 6bone will not be used for production.

Michel.