From fink@es.net  Tue Oct  2 20:30:03 2001
From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:30:03 -0700
Subject: 6bone pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 allocated to XS4ALL-NL
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011002121704.02bbf3f0@imap2.es.net>

XS4ALL-NL in The Netherlands has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 having 
finished its 2-week review period.

<http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?XS4ALL-NL>


Note that it will take a short while for their pTLA inet6num entry to 
appear in the 6bone registry as they have to create it themselves. However, 
their registration is listed on:

<http://www.6bone.net/6bone_pTLA_list.html>	


To create a reverse DNS registration for pTLAs, please send the prefix 
allocated above, and a list of at least two authoritative nameservers, to 
either bmanning@isi.edu or hostmaster@ep.net.


Thanks,

Bob


From john@sixgirls.org  Wed Oct  3 08:54:15 2001
From: john@sixgirls.org (John Klos)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 03:54:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Free wireless Internet including IPv6 in NYC
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0110030329270.11505-100000@reva.sixgirls.org>

Hello,

Sixgirls Computing Labs, along with NYCwireless, have set up a free
wireless Internet access point covering the west half of Tompkins Square
Park in New York City's East Village.

In addition to IPv4 Internet access, this access point offers native IPv6
routing through a tunnel to FreeNet.

We hope that making IPv6 accessible to the public increases awareness of
IPv6 and encourages more people to try out IPv6 themselves.

Comments, questions, and feedback is welcome.

http://www.sixgirls.org/wireless/
http://www.nycwireless.net/

Thanks,
John Klos
Sixgirls Computing Labs


From lazy@bsdbox.org  Thu Oct  4 00:48:39 2001
From: lazy@bsdbox.org (lazy)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:48:39 -0400
Subject: FreeBSD_4.4 + ipfilter_3.4.20 + IPv6 = headache...
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110031022480.9091-100000@cyberlib.itb.ac.id>
Message-ID: <3BBBA3D7.537C2599@bsdbox.org>

Is it supposed to exist? ;)

Check your kernel configuration and make sure you
have it enabled, the line should look something
similar to:
    pseudo-device  gif   4

// lazy


"Rendo A.W" wrote:
> 
> how could i do that if gif interface didn't exist ?
> this is the error message
> 
> root  >> ifconfig gif create
> ifconfig: interface gif does not exist
> 
> # RENDO A.W >>
> 
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, kim  chua wrote:
> 
> > I think you need to create gif interface first:
> >
> > ifconfig gif create
> >
> > hope this helps,
> >
> > Chua K K
> > NTT MSC
> > Cyberjaya
> > Malaysia
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 08:51:36
> >  Rendo A.W wrote:
> > >
> > >I agree with you, I also failed in make tunnel for ipv6 in FreeBSD
> > >4.4-Stable. The gif interface didn't appear and I can't use stf for
> > >tunnelling.
> > >Can anyone explain me how to make tunneling in FreeBSD 4.4-Stable ?
> > >
> > >Thank you  and sorry about my poor english.
> > >
> > ># RENDO A.W >>
> > >
> > >On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Oliver, Michael W. wrote:
> > >
> > >> I realize that this may be somewhat off topic, but please hear me out.  I
> > >> have been spending the past few days trying to build a FreeBSD 4.4 STABLE
> > >> firewall, using the included ipfilter 3.4.20 port, that supports IPv6
> > >> filtering.  I have been completely unsuccessful up to now.  I have also
> > >> bypassed the port and downloaded 3.4.20 from ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/ and,
> > >> following the instructions from a Zama pdf
> > >> (ftp://www.zamanetworks.com/pub/knowledgebase/techdocs/Implementing%20an%20I
> > >> Pv6%20and%20IPv4%20IPF%20firewall%20on%20FreeBSD%204.2.pdf), tried to
> > >> compile.  Now, I know that the Zama pdf instructions are for ipfilter
> > >> 3.4.16, but that version isn't available anymore.  Anyway, the patch fails
> > >> when I try to apply it....  <sigh>
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone tried this setup yet?  I have posted this to the FreeBSD
> > >> newsgroups, but I figured that I would send it here also since this may be
> > >> too 'out there' for the newsgroups.  Thanks in advance!
> > >>
> > >>  ---------------
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> > >> |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
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> > >>
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From pete@research.netsol.com  Thu Oct  4 21:57:37 2001
From: pete@research.netsol.com (Pete Toscano)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:57:37 -0400
Subject: FreeBSD_4.4 + ipfilter_3.4.20 + IPv6 = headache...
In-Reply-To: <3BBBA3D7.537C2599@bsdbox.org>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110031022480.9091-100000@cyberlib.itb.ac.id> <3BBBA3D7.537C2599@bsdbox.org>
Message-ID: <20011004165737.C3547@tesla.admin.cto.netsol.com>

Ah, my friends, I encountered the same problem back when I made my
FreeBSD IPv6 firewall and I have your answer.  =8]  

Somewhere around about that 4.3-to-4.4 cutover time, the kernel was
changed to not automatically create the gif interfaces.  You need to use
the gifconfig command.  The tip-off for me was some changes in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf.  Grep through /etc/defaults/rc.conf for gif.
Okay, I'll do that for you.  This is what you get:

====================
gif_interfaces="NO"             # List of GIF tunnels (or "NO").
#gif_interfaces="gif0 gif1"     # Examples typically for a router.
#gifconfig_gif0="10.1.1.1 10.1.2.1"     # Examples typically for a router.
#gifconfig_gif1="10.1.1.2 10.1.2.2"     # Examples typically for a router.
====================

Ah-ha!  I added something very similar to my /etc/rc.conf file and
everything was good.  Well, everything with respect to the gif interface
problems.  Here's sort of what I added:

====================
gif_interfaces="gif0" 
gifconfig_gif0="m1.m2.m3.m4 b1.b2.b3.b4"

ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="3ffe:mX::mY:0:0:e 3ffe:bX::bY:0:0:d prefixlen 128"
====================

The first two lines are used to create the gif interfaces and configure
their IPv4 end-points.  Add as many gif interfaces to gif_interfaces as
you need and for each one, add a gifconfig_gifX line (X >= 0).  The
first IPv4 address is mine, the second is the address at the other end
of the tunnel.

The third line (IPv6) configures the gif interface.  (Actually, this
isn't specific to the gif interface, but for the sake of being
complete...)

Upon restart, the interfaces all started up fine.

HTH,
pete


On Wed, 03 Oct 2001, lazy wrote:

> Is it supposed to exist? ;)
> 
> Check your kernel configuration and make sure you
> have it enabled, the line should look something
> similar to:
>     pseudo-device  gif   4
> 
> // lazy
> 
> 
> "Rendo A.W" wrote:
> > 
> > how could i do that if gif interface didn't exist ?
> > this is the error message
> > 
> > root  >> ifconfig gif create
> > ifconfig: interface gif does not exist
> > 
> > # RENDO A.W >>
> > 
> > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, kim  chua wrote:
> > 
> > > I think you need to create gif interface first:
> > >
> > > ifconfig gif create
> > >
> > > hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Chua K K
> > > NTT MSC
> > > Cyberjaya
> > > Malaysia
> > > --
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 08:51:36
> > >  Rendo A.W wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I agree with you, I also failed in make tunnel for ipv6 in FreeBSD
> > > >4.4-Stable. The gif interface didn't appear and I can't use stf for
> > > >tunnelling.
> > > >Can anyone explain me how to make tunneling in FreeBSD 4.4-Stable ?
> > > >
> > > >Thank you  and sorry about my poor english.
> > > >
> > > ># RENDO A.W >>
> > > >
> > > >On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Oliver, Michael W. wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I realize that this may be somewhat off topic, but please hear me out.  I
> > > >> have been spending the past few days trying to build a FreeBSD 4.4 STABLE
> > > >> firewall, using the included ipfilter 3.4.20 port, that supports IPv6
> > > >> filtering.  I have been completely unsuccessful up to now.  I have also
> > > >> bypassed the port and downloaded 3.4.20 from ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/ and,
> > > >> following the instructions from a Zama pdf
> > > >> (ftp://www.zamanetworks.com/pub/knowledgebase/techdocs/Implementing%20an%20I
> > > >> Pv6%20and%20IPv4%20IPF%20firewall%20on%20FreeBSD%204.2.pdf), tried to
> > > >> compile.  Now, I know that the Zama pdf instructions are for ipfilter
> > > >> 3.4.16, but that version isn't available anymore.  Anyway, the patch fails
> > > >> when I try to apply it....  <sigh>
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anyone tried this setup yet?  I have posted this to the FreeBSD
> > > >> newsgroups, but I figured that I would send it here also since this may be
> > > >> too 'out there' for the newsgroups.  Thanks in advance!

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From yjchui@cht.com.tw  Mon Oct  8 05:10:06 2001
From: yjchui@cht.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:10:06 +0800
Subject: NAT-PT
Message-ID: <008c01c14faf$20581880$26a9900a@chttl.com.tw>

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download the software. (Some link has been out of date and can not be =
accessed). Does anybody know where I can download BT's NAT-PT software?

    Besides, is there any place with collections of existing NAT-PT =
imlementation?

Thanks
Yann-Ju Chu
ChungHwa Telecom. Co.

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From alaa_groups@yahoo.ca  Mon Oct  8 15:07:31 2001
From: alaa_groups@yahoo.ca (Alaa Masoud)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:07:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Registering IPv6 address.
Message-ID: <20011008140731.41365.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I have setup a network of 2 linux machines connected
to for cisco routers. They all using IPv6. I would
like to connect my network to the 6bone. I scanned the
6bone webpage quickly but I was not certain about the
steps I follow in order to obtain the address. and it
said at the begining that I need to sign up with this
news group. Could anyone give me a hint of where to
start and steps I should follow??

Many Thanks,
Alaa.

_______________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca

From pasky@pasky.ji.cz  Mon Oct  8 18:03:15 2001
From: pasky@pasky.ji.cz (Petr Baudis)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:03:15 +0200
Subject: Registering IPv6 address.
In-Reply-To: <20011008140731.41365.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>; from alaa_groups@yahoo.ca on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 10:07:31AM -0400
References: <20011008140731.41365.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20011008190315.F26494@pasky.ji.cz>

>             Could anyone give me a hint of where to
> start and steps I should follow??
The best thing for you as the quick start would be probably getting
some address space from a tunnel broker. These are providing tunnels
and some IPv6 address space for free, and obviously a connectivity to
6bone thru those tunnels. Check http://hs247.com/ for very good list
of them (and other useful informations).

-- 

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.                                                                       .
Real Users hate Real Programmers.
Error in /home/tokra/.muttrc, line 145: previous-undead: no such function in map
.                                                                       .
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From lazy@bsdbox.org  Mon Oct  8 18:32:48 2001
From: lazy@bsdbox.org (lazy)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:32:48 -0400
Subject: Registering IPv6 address.
References: <20011008140731.41365.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3BC1E340.33B15D02@bsdbox.org>

Since it doesn't seem like you need something else, you
could go about using a 2002::/16 prefix or a tunnel.
Check out the 6bone.net website a bit closer, as well as
google for plenty of information on setting up IPv6 with
a 2002::/16 or using a tunnel broker. 

http://hs247.com/ has a lot of useful information as well.

Enjoy.


Alaa Masoud wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have setup a network of 2 linux machines connected
> to for cisco routers. They all using IPv6. I would
> like to connect my network to the 6bone. I scanned the
> 6bone webpage quickly but I was not certain about the
> steps I follow in order to obtain the address. and it
> said at the begining that I need to sign up with this
> news group. Could anyone give me a hint of where to
> start and steps I should follow??
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Alaa.
> 
> _______________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca

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From mithrandir@skynet.be  Thu Oct 11 07:47:22 2001
From: mithrandir@skynet.be (Mithrandir)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:47:22 +0200
Subject: Belgium
Message-ID: <001201c15220$a6d39600$6401a8c0@AUSTRIA>

Hello everybody,

Is there anyone of you from belgium?

I need to contact you with an offer.

Good knowledge of IPv6 is required.

Thank you

Greetings
Mithrandir
mithrandir@skynet.be



From micklesc@aol.net  Fri Oct 12 21:31:10 2001
From: micklesc@aol.net (Cleve Mickles)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:31:10 -0400
Subject: IPV6 DNS error messages
Message-ID: <NFBBKCMPAMBLMHAHHIMBGEMHCMAA.micklesc@aol.net>


I'm noticing a couple of messages in my logs when my name
server is restarted.  Has anyone seen this before? My reverses
are working but I don't like the warning messages.

Oct 12 14:24:32 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:52: ignoring out-of-zone data
Oct 12 14:28:51 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:53: ignoring out-of-zone data
Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:12: ignoring out-of-zone data
Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:14: ignoring out-of-zone data
Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:17: ignoring out-of-zone data
Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
daemon.warning]
dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:50: ignoring out-of-zone data

#
# traceroute 3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1
traceroute to 3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1, 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  ptn-6bone1-nose-fe200.aolv6.aol.com (3ffe:2803:fffe::1)  0.714 ms  0.440
ms  0.526 ms
 2  sprint-vbns.pym.vbns.net (3ffe:28ff:ffff:1::115)  35.225 ms  35.343 ms *
 3  3ffe:2900:a:8::2  156.100 ms  156.198 ms  156.546 ms
 4  gate.ipv6.wanadoo.be (3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1)  193.520 ms *  194.033 ms
#

Thanks,

Cleve...

Cleve Mickles
Office Phone: 703-265-5618
Network Architect
America Online, Network Operations


From lazy@bsdbox.org  Sat Oct 13 01:52:18 2001
From: lazy@bsdbox.org (lazy)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 20:52:18 -0400
Subject: IPV6 DNS error messages
References: <NFBBKCMPAMBLMHAHHIMBGEMHCMAA.micklesc@aol.net>
Message-ID: <3BC79042.C066FA9F@bsdbox.org>

Doesn't seem to be a real IPv6 related problem, but more of a
BIND misconfiguration. Review your zone files, and use something
like nslint, named-checkzone, etc.


Cleve Mickles wrote:
> 
> I'm noticing a couple of messages in my logs when my name
> server is restarted.  Has anyone seen this before? My reverses
> are working but I don't like the warning messages.
> 
> Oct 12 14:24:32 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:52: ignoring out-of-zone data
> Oct 12 14:28:51 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:53: ignoring out-of-zone data
> Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:12: ignoring out-of-zone data
> Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:14: ignoring out-of-zone data
> Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:17: ignoring out-of-zone data
> Oct 12 14:50:21 ns-ipv6 /usr/local/sbin/named[136]: [ID 866145
> daemon.warning]
> dns_master_load: db.3ffe:2803:50: ignoring out-of-zone data
> 
> #
> # traceroute 3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1
> traceroute to 3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1, 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  ptn-6bone1-nose-fe200.aolv6.aol.com (3ffe:2803:fffe::1)  0.714 ms  0.440
> ms  0.526 ms
>  2  sprint-vbns.pym.vbns.net (3ffe:28ff:ffff:1::115)  35.225 ms  35.343 ms *
>  3  3ffe:2900:a:8::2  156.100 ms  156.198 ms  156.546 ms
>  4  gate.ipv6.wanadoo.be (3ffe:8100:200:1fff::1)  193.520 ms *  194.033 ms
> #
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cleve...
> 
> Cleve Mickles
> Office Phone: 703-265-5618
> Network Architect
> America Online, Network Operations

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From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be  Mon Oct 15 14:25:25 2001
From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:25:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: NTP available on IPv6
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20010920152518.02cf7d90@127.0.0.1>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0110151517320.1454-100000@frigg.belbone.net>

Greetings,

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> Hi,
>   We ported the Network Time Protocol (NTP) current distribution
> (ntp-4.1.0.tar.gz) to IPv6. The main components (client, server) have been
> ported to enable the use of NTP over IPv6 to synchronize clocks of IPv6
> nodes, however, a few other optional components are being ported.
(...)
> Information on how to get the code and how to use the NTPv6 service is
> available at: http://www.viagenie.qc.ca/en/ipv6/ntpv6/index.shtml.
> We are looking for feedback from users who would like to test the code and
> the server.
OK. I have it a try on a PC running OpenBSD 2.8.

This is what I got.
1/ "ntpdate ntp.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca" DID seams to work;
2/ "ntpd" did NOT work with my standard /etc/ntp.conf
server ntp1.belbone.be
server ntp2.belbone.be
server ntp.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca
multicastclient
driftfile /etc/ntp/drift
broadcast 224.0.1.1 ttl 63

I removed the lines "multicastclient" and "broadcast" (which had to do
with IPv4 multicasting); which seams to work better but not completely OK.


First: I get these syslog-messages
Oct 15 15:19:18 thor ntpd[10098]:
sendto(3ffe:b00:c18:1:202:b3ff:fe31:fa5f): Invalid argument
Oct 15 15:19:18 thor ntpd[10098]:
sendto(3ffe:b00:c18:1:202:b3ff:fe31:fa5f): Invalid argument

Second: 'xntpdc' (which is non-IPv6) seams to crash the ntpd-daemon.


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
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From yenigul@rt.net.tr  Mon Oct 15 18:24:19 2001
From: yenigul@rt.net.tr (Ismail YENIGUL)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:24:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: CSELT TB and TS on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE help!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.32L2.0110151717130.52699-100000@agayev.rt.net.tr>

hi

i am trying to install an TB and TS  on a single FreeBSD
4.4-STABLE box. but i am a bit confused.
i have also an IPv6 enabled Cisco router.

currently i install CSELT Tunnel Broker web interface. i works very
well. but i do not know how to configure same FreeBSD box as a Tunnel
Server.

After Configuring to Tunnel Server  , what should i do to forward all
packages that comes from clients to IPv6 Cisco Router ?

Best regards



If you know what you are doing, you would be bored !
Ismail YENIGUL
RT.NET  <yenigul@rt.net.tr>



From micklesc@aol.net  Mon Oct 15 21:16:47 2001
From: micklesc@aol.net (Cleve Mickles)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:16:47 -0400
Subject: IPV6 DNS error messages
In-Reply-To: <3BC79042.C066FA9F@bsdbox.org>
Message-ID: <NFBBKCMPAMBLMHAHHIMBIENFCMAA.micklesc@aol.net>


Folks,

Thanks for all your comments and your help.  Someone pointed 
out that it was probably due to A records in the zone
file and I had one that was not commented out in my 
forward file.  The problem was corrected.

Thanks,

Cleve...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lazy@aol.net [mailto:lazy@aol.net]On Behalf Of lazy
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 8:52 PM
> To: micklesc@aol.net
> Cc: 6bone
> Subject: Re: IPV6 DNS error messages
> 
> 
> Doesn't seem to be a real IPv6 related problem, but more of a
> BIND misconfiguration. Review your zone files, and use something
> like nslint, named-checkzone, etc.
> 
> 
> Cleve Mickles wrote:
> > 
> > I'm noticing a couple of messages in my logs when my name
> > server is restarted.  Has anyone seen this before? My reverses
> > are working but I don't like the warning messages.
> > 
> > Cleve Mickles
> > Office Phone: 703-265-5618
> > Network Architect
> > America Online, Network Operations
> 


From todd@fries.net  Tue Oct 16 22:07:24 2001
From: todd@fries.net (Todd T. Fries)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:07:24 -0500
Subject: ipv6 deployment
Message-ID: <20011016160724.B6409@eclipse.fries.net>

Will this list be hosted on an ipv6 enabled machine in the future to promote
use/testing of ipv6 smtp?

(I've updated my dns so the lowest mx is ipv6 only, and is not an issue because
 the 2nd lowest mx is ipv4 and headed to the same machine .. so far only kame
 is sending me ipv6 email ..)

Is there anywhere any registrar that will allow registering of an ipv6 address
for a dns server?

Thanks,
-- 
Todd Fries .. todd@fries.net

From jeroen@unfix.org  Wed Oct 17 02:04:01 2001
From: jeroen@unfix.org (Jeroen Massar)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 03:04:01 +0200
Subject: ipv6 deployment
In-Reply-To: <20011016160724.B6409@eclipse.fries.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c156a7$9d429c40$420d640a@HELL>

Todd T. Fries <todd@fries.net> wrote:

> Will this list be hosted on an ipv6 enabled machine in the future to
promote
> use/testing of ipv6 smtp?
There are not so many lists/smtp's using IPv6 even though one can simply
add an IPv6 AAAA/A6 and IPv4 address
to a box making it totally transparant as the MTA should first try IPv6
(AAAA/A6) records and after that it should fall back to IPv4...
Just like IE does with http, ssh does with openssh and so on....

All mail at the ipng.nl is done this way... the ipv6@ipng.nl mailinglist
also travels over IPv6 wherever possible.
(echo "subscribe ipng-ipv6" | mail majordomo@ipng.nl; send mail to
ipv6@ipng.nl, open only to subscribers... :)
And not to forget that zama has some kind of IPv6 only webmail
interface.
Check http://hs247.com/ for some of the mailinglists

For myself my mail travels from outlook over IPv4 to my mailbox which
runs postfix and after that it travels over IPv6 or IPv4 in the way as
described above.
(I would really like to see IPv6 SMTP & IMAP in Outlook :)

What I am kinda missing is a 'telnet mail-abuse.org' which also has an
IPv6 testing capability...
And coming to that topic... don't forget to block/allow ::ffff:x.x.x.x
IPv4-mapped addresses or you still have an open spam relay.. I luckily
haven't seen any spam coming over IPv6 though :)

> (I've updated my dns so the lowest mx is ipv6 only, and is not an
issue because
>  the 2nd lowest mx is ipv4 and headed to the same machine .. 
> so far only kame is sending me ipv6 email ..)
> 
> Is there anywhere any registrar that will allow registering 
> of an ipv6 address for a dns server?
Depends on your delegation provider :)
Ofcourse you can always smack in those AAAA & A6 records in your
delegated DNS's SOA...
Also see http://www.crt.se/dnssec/bind9/ for the docs...

Greets,
 Jeroen


From bmanning@ISI.EDU  Wed Oct 17 06:09:25 2001
From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:09:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ipv6 deployment
In-Reply-To: <20011016160724.B6409@eclipse.fries.net> from "Todd T. Fries" at Oct 16, 2001 04:07:24 PM
Message-ID: <200110170509.f9H59Z329916@zed.isi.edu>

% 
% Will this list be hosted on an ipv6 enabled machine in the future to promote
% use/testing of ipv6 smtp?

	We could move it to an IPv6 machine... 

% 
% (I've updated my dns so the lowest mx is ipv6 only, and is not an issue because
%  the 2nd lowest mx is ipv4 and headed to the same machine .. so far only kame
%  is sending me ipv6 email ..)
% 
% Is there anywhere any registrar that will allow registering of an ipv6 address
% for a dns server?
% 
% Thanks,
% -- 
% Todd Fries .. todd@fries.net
% 


-- 
--bill

From todd@fries.net  Wed Oct 17 06:53:11 2001
From: todd@fries.net (Todd T. Fries)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:53:11 -0500
Subject: ipv6 deployment
In-Reply-To: <200110170509.f9H59Z329916@zed.isi.edu>
References: <20011016160724.B6409@eclipse.fries.net> <200110170509.f9H59Z329916@zed.isi.edu>
Message-ID: <20011017005311.M8216@eclipse.fries.net>

I would presume dual stack, only makes sense.  But definately makes sense
to utilize the very protocol we discuss during the discussion.

Penned by Bill Manning on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:09:25PM -0700, we have:
| % 
| % Will this list be hosted on an ipv6 enabled machine in the future to promote
| % use/testing of ipv6 smtp?
| 
| 	We could move it to an IPv6 machine... 
| 
| % 
| % (I've updated my dns so the lowest mx is ipv6 only, and is not an issue because
| %  the 2nd lowest mx is ipv4 and headed to the same machine .. so far only kame
| %  is sending me ipv6 email ..)
| % 
| % Is there anywhere any registrar that will allow registering of an ipv6 address
| % for a dns server?
| % 
| % Thanks,
| % -- 
| % Todd Fries .. todd@fries.net
| % 
| 
| 
| -- 
| --bill

-- 
Todd Fries .. todd@fries.net

From berni@birkenwald.de  Wed Oct 17 23:24:53 2001
From: berni@birkenwald.de (Bernhard Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:24:53 +0200
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
Message-ID: <20011018002453.A73907@thor.birkenwald.de>

Hi,

anyone in here running an ipv6 capable newsfeeder who wants to set up a
test feed for one or two medium sized hierarchies over ipv6?

Bernhard

From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca  Thu Oct 18 01:32:27 2001
From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:32:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <20011018002453.A73907@thor.birkenwald.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110172031530.26760-100000@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca>

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Bernhard Schmidt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> anyone in here running an ipv6 capable newsfeeder who wants to set up a
> test feed for one or two medium sized hierarchies over ipv6?

Love to, but am still waiting for INN to integrate it....other than that,
my newserver is IPv6-ready.

>
> Bernhard
>



wfms


From tech@weblibre.org  Thu Oct 18 08:42:45 2001
From: tech@weblibre.org (David Correa)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180040300.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>

Hi,

I think I have http://ipv6.linux-tech.com working, I can see it
from my network, but I am not sure if is really working from the
out side (via IPv6), could some one check and let me know is all is good?

Thanks,
/dc

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |




From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk  Thu Oct 18 09:59:53 2001
From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:59:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180040300.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0110180958450.8644-100000@cass18>



On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, David Correa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think I have http://ipv6.linux-tech.com working, I can see it
> from my network, but I am not sure if is really working from the
> out side (via IPv6), could some one check and let me know is all is good?
>
Not 'till its AAAA record shows up in the DNS:


> host -t a ipv6.linux-tech.com
ipv6.linux-tech.com is an alias for linux-tech.com.
linux-tech.com has address 66.123.163.230
> host -t aaaa ipv6.linux-tech.com
ipv6.linux-tech.com is an alias for linux-tech.com.
>

Pete.


From berni@birkenwald.de  Thu Oct 18 10:23:52 2001
From: berni@birkenwald.de (Bernhard Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:23:52 +0200
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110172031530.26760-100000@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca>; from wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:32:27PM -0400
References: <20011018002453.A73907@thor.birkenwald.de> <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110172031530.26760-100000@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca>
Message-ID: <20011018112352.A17764@thor.birkenwald.de>

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:32:27PM -0400, William F. Maton wrote:

Hi William,

> > anyone in here running an ipv6 capable newsfeeder who wants to set up a
> > test feed for one or two medium sized hierarchies over ipv6?
> 
> Love to, but am still waiting for INN to integrate it....other than that,
> my newserver is IPv6-ready.

INN 2.3.2 is able to speak ipv6 with a patch provided at

ftp://ftp.north.ad.jp/pub/IPv6/INN/inn-2.3.2-v6-20010807.diff.gz

This combination is running without any problems on
thor.ipv6.birkenwald.de:119 and news.ipv6.eurocyber.net:1119 (reader
access and innfeed over ipv6 are possible).

I did not test it under heavy load though, both systems have about
50megs/day newsfeed, my machine also has some reader access. 

   bye bye
     Bernhard

From Rene.Wijninga@compaq.com  Thu Oct 18 10:26:17 2001
From: Rene.Wijninga@compaq.com (Wijninga, Rene)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:26:17 +0200
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
Message-ID: <3E949EBE79F06647BFA27781F04AD62AAD49D7@utoexc01.emea.cpqcorp.net>

Hi David,

Works perfectely.

Greetz, Rene

Rene Wijninga
Senior Network Specialist Enterprise Networking
Professional Services

Compaq Computer B.V.
P.O. Box 9064	 - 	3506 GB Utrecht
Europalaan 44	 - 	3526 KS Utrecht
Phone:		+31 (0)30 2834490
FAX: 		+31 (0)653148456
Mobile:		+31 (0)6 51275732
e-mail: 		rene.wijninga@compaq.com
Web:		 www.compaq.com


-----Original Message-----
From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org] 
Sent: donderdag 18 oktober 2001 09:43
To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test

Hi,

I think I have http://ipv6.linux-tech.com working, I can see it
from my network, but I am not sure if is really working from the
out side (via IPv6), could some one check and let me know is all is good?

Thanks,
/dc

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |




From mikej@confluenttech.com  Thu Oct 18 13:36:02 2001
From: mikej@confluenttech.com (Michael G. Jung)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:36:02 -0400
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
Message-ID: <83AA574D7386D94D8475AFE832D6DC6254BE@neo.confluentasp.local>

Your don't appear to have a AAAA record for ipv6.linux-tech.com


(mikej@firewall) /home/staff/mikej$ nslookup -query=AAAA
ipv6.linux-tech.com
Server:  ns2.confluentasp.com
Address:  208.35.201.2

Non-authoritative answer:
ipv6.linux-tech.com     canonical name = linux-tech.com

Authoritative answers can be found from:
linux-tech.com
        origin = dns5.register.com
        mail addr = root.register.com
        serial = 200008148
        refresh = 10800 (3H)
        retry   = 86400 (1D)
        expire  = 604800 (1W)
        minimum ttl = 3600 (1H)
(mikej@firewall) /home/staff/mikej$


--mikej
Michael Jung
mikej@mikej.com




-----Original Message-----
From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:43 AM
To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test


Hi,

I think I have http://ipv6.linux-tech.com working, I can see it
from my network, but I am not sure if is really working from the
out side (via IPv6), could some one check and let me know is all is
good?

Thanks,
/dc

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |





From kirk@thebollingers.net  Thu Oct 18 15:53:04 2001
From: kirk@thebollingers.net (kirk@thebollingers.net)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <20011018112352.A17764@thor.birkenwald.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110180751510.1972-100000@localhost.localdomain>


Does anyone know of an open IPV6 news server I can connect to just to play
with the latest version of tin??

thanks!

-kirk

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Bernhard Schmidt wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:32:27PM -0400, William F. Maton wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> > > anyone in here running an ipv6 capable newsfeeder who wants to set up a
> > > test feed for one or two medium sized hierarchies over ipv6?
> >
> > Love to, but am still waiting for INN to integrate it....other than that,
> > my newserver is IPv6-ready.
>
> INN 2.3.2 is able to speak ipv6 with a patch provided at
>
> ftp://ftp.north.ad.jp/pub/IPv6/INN/inn-2.3.2-v6-20010807.diff.gz
>
> This combination is running without any problems on
> thor.ipv6.birkenwald.de:119 and news.ipv6.eurocyber.net:1119 (reader
> access and innfeed over ipv6 are possible).
>
> I did not test it under heavy load though, both systems have about
> 50megs/day newsfeed, my machine also has some reader access.
>
>    bye bye
>      Bernhard
>


From tech@weblibre.org  Thu Oct 18 16:09:29 2001
From: tech@weblibre.org (David Correa)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:09:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180040300.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180758540.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>

Hello,

Thanks to all that responded, I needed the feed back.

The reason (i think) why some where able to see it and others not
was that I still had a register.com DNS in the list
of Auth. DNS, there were no AAAA records there.
I have removed the Register.com DNS from the list, it
was not done before because I needed more testing.

I have the AAAA records on DNS servers that I have
running on my home network.

I know is not an interesting web site : ) but I would
appreciate if the people that _could not see it_ let me
know if it is visible now.

My respects to all,

/dc

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |


From berni@birkenwald.de  Thu Oct 18 18:52:40 2001
From: berni@birkenwald.de (Bernhard Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:52:40 +0200
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110180751510.1972-100000@localhost.localdomain>; from kirk@thebollingers.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 07:53:04AM -0700
References: <20011018112352.A17764@thor.birkenwald.de> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110180751510.1972-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20011018195240.A9894@thor.birkenwald.de>

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 07:53:04AM -0700, kirk@thebollingers.net wrote:

Hi,

> Does anyone know of an open IPV6 news server I can connect to just to play
> with the latest version of tin??

Well, I don't know an open one, but if you send me your IPv6 prefix and
the hierarchy you want I can give you access on news.ipv6.eurocyber.net.
This is a test daemon, so it only has selected hierarchies.

   bye bye
     Bernhard

From tsoome@ut.ee  Thu Oct 18 20:14:40 2001
From: tsoome@ut.ee (Toomas Soome)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:14:40 +0200
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <20011018112352.A17764@thor.birkenwald.de>
Message-ID: <HDEBLOHPJIAKDEFLGMBGKEAFCAAA.tsoome@ut.ee>


thanks a lot about this link! you can test out news.ut.ee, you are supposed to see only ee.* hierarchy, though...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf 
> Of Bernhard Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:24 AM
> To: William F. Maton
> Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU
> Subject: Re: IPv6 newsfeed
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:32:27PM -0400, William F. Maton wrote:
> 
> Hi William,
> 
> > > anyone in here running an ipv6 capable newsfeeder who wants 
> to set up a
> > > test feed for one or two medium sized hierarchies over ipv6?
> > 
> > Love to, but am still waiting for INN to integrate it....other 
> than that,
> > my newserver is IPv6-ready.
> 
> INN 2.3.2 is able to speak ipv6 with a patch provided at
> 
> ftp://ftp.north.ad.jp/pub/IPv6/INN/inn-2.3.2-v6-20010807.diff.gz
> 
> This combination is running without any problems on
> thor.ipv6.birkenwald.de:119 and news.ipv6.eurocyber.net:1119 (reader
> access and innfeed over ipv6 are possible).
> 
> I did not test it under heavy load though, both systems have about
> 50megs/day newsfeed, my machine also has some reader access. 
> 
>    bye bye
>      Bernhard
> 


From mikej@confluenttech.com  Thu Oct 18 20:34:03 2001
From: mikej@confluenttech.com (Michael G. Jung)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:34:03 -0400
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
Message-ID: <83AA574D7386D94D8475AFE832D6DC620528BC@neo.confluentasp.local>

Hmmm.... looks like your missing a trailing dot on your NS 
entries.  "origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com".

--regards

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

(root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=AAAA ipv6.linux-tech.com
Server:  ns2.confluentasp.com
Address:  208.35.201.2

Non-authoritative answer:
ipv6.linux-tech.com     canonical name = linux-tech.com

Authoritative answers can be found from:
linux-tech.com
        origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com
        mail addr = root.register.com
        serial = 200008151
        refresh = 10800 (3H)
        retry   = 86400 (1D)
        expire  = 604800 (1W)
        minimum ttl = 3600 (1H)
(root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If queried directly jade.weblibre.org answers with....

(root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=aaaa ipv6.linux-tech.com
jade.weblibre.org
Server:  jade.weblibre.org
Address:  66.123.163.226

ipv6.linux-tech.com     IPv6 address = 3ffe:1200:3028:ff01::35f9
linux-tech.com  nameserver = jade.weblibre.org
linux-tech.com  nameserver = onix.weblibre.org
jade.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.226
onix.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.227
(root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# 


-----Original Message-----
From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:09 AM
To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: IPv6 Web Site Test


Hello,

Thanks to all that responded, I needed the feed back.

The reason (i think) why some where able to see it and others not
was that I still had a register.com DNS in the list
of Auth. DNS, there were no AAAA records there.
I have removed the Register.com DNS from the list, it
was not done before because I needed more testing.

I have the AAAA records on DNS servers that I have
running on my home network.

I know is not an interesting web site : ) but I would
appreciate if the people that _could not see it_ let me
know if it is visible now.

My respects to all,

/dc

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |


From tech@weblibre.org  Thu Oct 18 21:54:11 2001
From: tech@weblibre.org (David Correa)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
In-Reply-To: <83AA574D7386D94D8475AFE832D6DC620528BC@neo.confluentasp.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110181350110.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>

Michael,

I think the problem is that a DNS in register.com is
still responding when it should not, there are no aaaa records there.
It looks like I need to wait 24/48 hours for all the dns in the
internet to sync. the new auth dns for the domain info.

Try this:
dig ipv6.linux-tech.com @jade.weblibre.org aaaa
dig ipv6.linux-tech.com @onix.weblibre.org aaaa

Thanks for the help,
/dc

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael G. Jung wrote:

> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:34:03 -0400
> From: Michael G. Jung <mikej@confluenttech.com>
> To: David Correa <tech@weblibre.org>, 6bone@ISI.EDU
> Subject: RE: IPv6 Web Site Test
>
> Hmmm.... looks like your missing a trailing dot on your NS
> entries.  "origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com".
>
> --regards
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=AAAA ipv6.linux-tech.com
> Server:  ns2.confluentasp.com
> Address:  208.35.201.2
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> ipv6.linux-tech.com     canonical name = linux-tech.com
>
> Authoritative answers can be found from:
> linux-tech.com
>         origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com
>         mail addr = root.register.com
>         serial = 200008151
>         refresh = 10800 (3H)
>         retry   = 86400 (1D)
>         expire  = 604800 (1W)
>         minimum ttl = 3600 (1H)
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej#
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> If queried directly jade.weblibre.org answers with....
>
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=aaaa ipv6.linux-tech.com
> jade.weblibre.org
> Server:  jade.weblibre.org
> Address:  66.123.163.226
>
> ipv6.linux-tech.com     IPv6 address = 3ffe:1200:3028:ff01::35f9
> linux-tech.com  nameserver = jade.weblibre.org
> linux-tech.com  nameserver = onix.weblibre.org
> jade.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.226
> onix.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.227
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej#
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
> Subject: Re: IPv6 Web Site Test
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to all that responded, I needed the feed back.
>
> The reason (i think) why some where able to see it and others not
> was that I still had a register.com DNS in the list
> of Auth. DNS, there were no AAAA records there.
> I have removed the Register.com DNS from the list, it
> was not done before because I needed more testing.
>
> I have the AAAA records on DNS servers that I have
> running on my home network.
>
> I know is not an interesting web site : ) but I would
> appreciate if the people that _could not see it_ let me
> know if it is visible now.
>
> My respects to all,
>
> /dc
>
> David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
> tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
> http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |
>
>

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |



From mikej@confluenttech.com  Thu Oct 18 22:14:06 2001
From: mikej@confluenttech.com (Michael G. Jung)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:14:06 -0400
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
Message-ID: <83AA574D7386D94D8475AFE832D6DC6254C2@neo.confluentasp.local>

Dave:

Please look at the below queries (one with dig, one with nslookup)

register.com is not returning the correct NS host for 
linux-tech.com.  

The register.com server returns a NS query for linux-tech.com 
as "onix.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com" when what you want
it to return is "onix.weblibre.org".

I don't user register.com but in bind this could because
a trailing "." was left off the hostname "onix.weblibre.org."

--regards

Michael Jung
mikej@confluenttech.com

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#nslookup
> set q=ns
> linux-tech.com
Server:  dns5.register.com
Address:  209.67.50.251

linux-tech.com  nameserver = onix.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com
linux-tech.com  nameserver = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com
> 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @dns5.register.com linux-tech.com ns 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      linux-tech.com, type = NS, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
linux-tech.com.         1H IN NS
onix.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com.
linux-tech.com.         1H IN NS
jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com.

;; Total query time: 213 msec
;; FROM: charon.confluentasp.com to SERVER: dns5.register.com
209.67.50.251
;; WHEN: Thu Oct 18 17:11:18 2001
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 83

(root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:54 PM
To: Michael G. Jung
Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: RE: IPv6 Web Site Test


Michael,

I think the problem is that a DNS in register.com is
still responding when it should not, there are no aaaa records there.
It looks like I need to wait 24/48 hours for all the dns in the
internet to sync. the new auth dns for the domain info.

Try this:
dig ipv6.linux-tech.com @jade.weblibre.org aaaa
dig ipv6.linux-tech.com @onix.weblibre.org aaaa

Thanks for the help,
/dc

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael G. Jung wrote:

> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:34:03 -0400
> From: Michael G. Jung <mikej@confluenttech.com>
> To: David Correa <tech@weblibre.org>, 6bone@ISI.EDU
> Subject: RE: IPv6 Web Site Test
>
> Hmmm.... looks like your missing a trailing dot on your NS
> entries.  "origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com".
>
> --regards
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=AAAA
ipv6.linux-tech.com
> Server:  ns2.confluentasp.com
> Address:  208.35.201.2
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> ipv6.linux-tech.com     canonical name = linux-tech.com
>
> Authoritative answers can be found from:
> linux-tech.com
>         origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com
>         mail addr = root.register.com
>         serial = 200008151
>         refresh = 10800 (3H)
>         retry   = 86400 (1D)
>         expire  = 604800 (1W)
>         minimum ttl = 3600 (1H)
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej#
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> If queried directly jade.weblibre.org answers with....
>
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej# nslookup -type=aaaa
ipv6.linux-tech.com
> jade.weblibre.org
> Server:  jade.weblibre.org
> Address:  66.123.163.226
>
> ipv6.linux-tech.com     IPv6 address = 3ffe:1200:3028:ff01::35f9
> linux-tech.com  nameserver = jade.weblibre.org
> linux-tech.com  nameserver = onix.weblibre.org
> jade.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.226
> onix.weblibre.org       internet address = 66.123.163.227
> (root@charon) /usr/staff/mikej#
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Correa [mailto:tech@weblibre.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
> Subject: Re: IPv6 Web Site Test
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to all that responded, I needed the feed back.
>
> The reason (i think) why some where able to see it and others not
> was that I still had a register.com DNS in the list
> of Auth. DNS, there were no AAAA records there.
> I have removed the Register.com DNS from the list, it
> was not done before because I needed more testing.
>
> I have the AAAA records on DNS servers that I have
> running on my home network.
>
> I know is not an interesting web site : ) but I would
> appreciate if the people that _could not see it_ let me
> know if it is visible now.
>
> My respects to all,
>
> /dc
>
> David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
> tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
> http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |
>
>

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |



From berni@birkenwald.de  Thu Oct 18 22:27:40 2001
From: berni@birkenwald.de (Bernhard Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:27:40 +0200
Subject: IPv6 newsfeed
In-Reply-To: <20011018195240.A9894@thor.birkenwald.de>; from berni@birkenwald.de on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 07:52:40PM +0200
References: <20011018112352.A17764@thor.birkenwald.de> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110180751510.1972-100000@localhost.localdomain> <20011018195240.A9894@thor.birkenwald.de>
Message-ID: <20011018232740.A68729@thor.birkenwald.de>

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 07:52:40PM +0200, Bernhard Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

> > Does anyone know of an open IPV6 news server I can connect to just to play
> > with the latest version of tin??
> Well, I don't know an open one, but if you send me your IPv6 prefix and
> the hierarchy you want I can give you access on news.ipv6.eurocyber.net.
> This is a test daemon, so it only has selected hierarchies.

Well, I have to correct myself :-)

news.ipv6.eurocyber.net:1119 is open for reading ipv6-wide for free. de.*
only at the moment, but I'm sure other hierarchies will be added within
the next days.

   bye bye
     Bernhard

From tech@weblibre.org  Fri Oct 19 03:27:40 2001
From: tech@weblibre.org (David Correa)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
In-Reply-To: <83AA574D7386D94D8475AFE832D6DC620528BC@neo.confluentasp.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110181923470.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>

Michael,

There is nothing I can do about the  extra "."
is a bug on the register.com DNS, hopefully
the problem will fix by itself after the root server
gets in sync with the new dns info.

Thanks for your help,
dc

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael G. Jung wrote:
>
> Hmmm.... looks like your missing a trailing dot on your NS
> entries.  "origin = jade.weblibre.org.linux-tech.com".
>
> --regards
>

David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |


From itojun@iijlab.net  Fri Oct 19 09:14:02 2001
From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:14:02 +0900
Subject: 2001:400::/29
Message-ID: <12075.1003479242@itojun.org>

	we (AS2500) are seeing 2001:400::/29 advertised from the following AS
	path:
		4554 3748 4755
	is it for real?   did RIR assigned /29 to AS4755?

	I don't think it correct, since:
	- http://www.dfn.de/service/ipv6/ipv6aggis.html does not list it
	- 2001:400::/35 is advertised from different origin AS (AS293)
	- AS4755 is advertising other prefixes too, and it seems to me that
	  AS4755 is authoritative for 3ffe:81e0::/28 only
	  3ffe:81d0::/28 - advertised by AS6939 too
	  3ffe:81e0::/28 - advertised by AS4755 only

	btw, http://www.dfn.de/service/ipv6/ipv6aggis.html do list a /29 prefix,
	which is not advertised yet.
	EU-ZZ-2001-07F8                2001:07F8::/29

itojun



*  2001:400::/29    2001:200:0:1800::3549:1
                                                           0 3549 6175 10566 475
5 i
*>i                 fec0::4401:0:0:1:1
                                             1    100      0 4554 3748 4755 i
*  2001:400::/35    2001:200:0:1800::4691:1
                                                           0 4691 2497 293 i
* i                 fec0::4401:0:0:1:1
                                             1    100      0 4554 293 i
*                   2001:200:0:1800::2497:1
                                                           0 2497 293 i
*>                  2001:200:0:1800:200:f8ff:fe1f:7490
                                                           0 4697 293 i
*                   2001:200:0:1800::2497:0
                                                           0 3549 2497 293 i
*                   2001:200:0:1800::2497:1
                                                           0 4725 2497 293 i
* i                 fec0::1802:0:0:1:7
                                                  100      0 3425 293 i


From fink@es.net  Sat Oct 20 16:16:16 2001
From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:16:16 -0700
Subject: problem with 6bone whois db and mnt-lower
In-Reply-To: <20011020153715.G28625@pasky.ji.cz>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011020080242.0887be08@imap2.es.net>

Petr,

I think this may start from the fact that the 3FFE::/16 inet6num object is 
not protected by mnt-lower to allow folks to setup and maintain their own 
pTLA entries (/24, /28) under it. If I didn't do that (I discussed this 
with David Kessens when we originally started out the 3FFE space) I would 
forever be maintaining all of these entries.

However, I don't know if this then affects the ability to protect space 
below that with mnt-lower.

Their has been no intentional abuse of the database to date and we want to 
encourage 6bone participants to use it by keeping it non-complicated and 
not requiring admin staff to support it.

Have forwarded this to David Kessens to answer further, and maybe give some 
more of the philosophy on this.


Bob

===
At 03:37 PM 10/20/2001 +0200, Petr Baudis wrote:
>Hi,
>
>in http://www.6bone.net/RIPE-registry.html it is said that:
>"mnt-lower ... pointer to maintainer object which describes who is allowed to
>*create* objects for SLAs part of the 'inet6num:' object" and
>"You can protect against people creating (only creating) objects direct (one
>level) below in the hierarchy of an object type (only for 'inet6num:/domain:'
>objects) by using your maintainer in a 'mnt-lower:' attribute. The
>authorization method of this maintainer object will then be used upon creation
>of any object direct below the object that contains the 'mnt-lower:'
>attribute."
>
>We wanted to use this feature, however, it seems it is not working
>unfortunately.  We created 3ffe:80ee::/32 inet6num with mnt-lower: NEXTRA-MNT
>attribute. Then, we created 3ffe:80ee::/64 inet6num with different mnt-by
>attribute (PB-6BONE) without any problems, which should NOT be allowed, as we
>understand the specification. We also tried 3ffe:80ee::/33, for the case we
>understood the 'one level' in a wrong way, with no problems at all too.
>
>This means that anyone can create inet6num object anywhere, we think, which
>doesn't look very well. We want to restrict creation of inet6num objects in
>this range, as we want to handle them ourselves on our own whois server, for
>many technical reasons.
>
>Can please anyone enlighten us or fix the problem in whois6d, if there exists
>any?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>--
>
>                                 Petr "Pasky" Baudis
>.                                                                       .
>Real Users hate Real Programmers.
>Error in /home/tokra/.muttrc, line 145: previous-undead: no such function 
>in map
>.                                                                       .
>Public PGP key, geekcode and stuff: http://pasky.ji.cz/~pasky/


From micklesc@aol.net  Wed Oct 24 20:47:18 2001
From: micklesc@aol.net (Cleveland Mickles)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:47:18 -0400
Subject: IPv6 Web Site Test
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180758540.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.25
 4>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0110180040300.4962-100000@yunque.10.10.10.254>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011024154511.06c72310@mailbox.office.aol.com>


I still don't see your AAAA records.  I also checked a looking
glass at http://www.ipv6.euronet.be/looking/index.html which
doesn't report a translation either.

Regards,

Cleve...


At 08:09 AM 10/18/01 -0700, David Correa wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Thanks to all that responded, I needed the feed back.
>
>The reason (i think) why some where able to see it and others not
>was that I still had a register.com DNS in the list
>of Auth. DNS, there were no AAAA records there.
>I have removed the Register.com DNS from the list, it
>was not done before because I needed more testing.
>
>I have the AAAA records on DNS servers that I have
>running on my home network.
>
>I know is not an interesting web site : ) but I would
>appreciate if the people that _could not see it_ let me
>know if it is visible now.
>
>My respects to all,
>
>/dc
>
>David Correa RHCE CCNA    _    _ _  _ _  _ _  _    ___ ____ ____ _  _
>tech@linux-tech.com       |    | |\ | |  |  \/      |  |___ |    |__|
>http://www.linux-tech.com |___ | | \| |__| _/\_     |  |___ |___ |  |

Cleve...


From fink@es.net  Thu Oct 25 15:24:03 2001
From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:24:03 -0700
Subject: pTLA request for AOL (wwwv6.aolv6.aol.com) - review closes 8
 November 2001
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025071526.00ab8908@imap2.es.net>

6bone Folk,

AOL (wwwv6.aolv6.aol.com) has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review 
period for this will close 8 November 2001. Please send your comments to me 
or the list.


Thanks,

Bob

===
>From: "Cleve Mickles" <micklesc@aol.net>
>To: <fink@es.net>
>Subject: pTLA Request for AOL
>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:06:14 -0400
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>We would like to apply for a pTLA allocation
>from the 6Bone.  Please let me know if there are
>any further requirements.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Cleve...
>
> > 7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites
> >
> >   The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. It
> >   should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are
> >   expected to provide production quality backbone network services for
> >   the 6Bone.
> >
> >   1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months
> >      qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit.   During
> >      the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally
> >      providing the following:
> >
> >      a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their
> >         ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each
> >         tunnel that the Applicant has.
>
>Our 6bone registry entries include:
>
>ipv6-site: AOL
>
>We are sub-TLA of VBNS and Sprint with inet6num: entries
>for both address blocks
>
>mntner: MNT-AOL-V6
>person objects: CM1-6BONE & TS6-6BONE
>
> >
> >      b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity
> >         between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate
> >         connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6
> >         pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone
> >         Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request.
>
>We are connected to about 8 BGP peers using tunneled connections.
>The external peers are spread over two Cisco 7500 routers and all
>tunnels are recorded in the ipv6-site registry object.
>
> >
> >      c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int)
> >         entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host
> >         system.
> >
>
>We maintain forward (AAAA) records for aolv6.aol.com
>and the reverse zone 3.0.8.2.e.f.f.3.ip6.int in the
>ns.aolv6.aol.com name server for network 3ffe:2803/32.
>
>AAAA DNS records for one of our router interfaces and our
>DNS server are noted below. The domain is aolv6.aol.com
>
>ptn-6bone1-nose-fe200           IN      AAAA    3FFE:2803:FFFE::1
>ns  IN      AAAA    3FFE:2803:FFFE::3
>
>
> >      d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system
> >         providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the
> >         Applicant's IPv6 services.  This server must be IPv6 pingable.
>
>wwwv6.aolv6.aol.com provides some basic information along
>with a link to our 6bone pinger page.
>
> >
> >   2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide
> >      "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must
> >      provide a statement and information in support of this claim.
> >      This MUST include the following:
> >
> >      a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with
> >         person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object
> >         for the pTLA applicant.
>
>Thom Stehnach tsten@aol.com
>Cleve Mickles micklesc@aol.net
>Please see person objects: CM1-6BONE & TS6-6BONE for other
>details.
>
> >
> >      b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support
> >         staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the
> >         ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant.
>
>ipv6-support@listserv.sup.aol.com is used for support issues.
>The notify attribute in our registry objects points to our
>routepolicy@aol.net mail list which incorporates the people
>on ipv6-support list.
>
> >
> >   3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that
> >      would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a
> >      major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus
> >      of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in
> >      support this claim.
>
>We have a backbone network, a large user community and a large array
>of content.  We would plan to offer some services via IPv6.
>
> >
> >   4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone
> >      operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its
> >      application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone
> >      operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the
> >      6Bone backbone and user community.
>
>We will abide by the current 6bone operation rules and policies
>and the consensus rules going forward.
>
> >
> >   When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply
> >   to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to
> >   the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the
> >   criteria above.
> >
> > 8. 6Bone Operations Group
> >
> >   The 6Bone Operations Group is the group in charge of monitoring and
> >   policing adherence to the current rules. Membership in the 6Bone
> >   Operations Group is mandatory for, and restricted to, sites connected
> >   to the 6Bone.
> >
> >   The 6Bone Operations Group is currently defined by those members of
> >   the existing 6Bone mailing list who represent sites participating in
> >   the 6Bone. Therefore it is incumbent on relevant site contacts to
> >   join the 6Bone mailing list. Instructions on how to join the list are
> >   maintained on the 6Bone web site at < http://www.6bone.net>.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>Cleve Mickles
>Office Phone: 703-265-5618
>Network Architect
>America Online, Network Operations
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From pekkas@netcore.fi  Fri Oct 26 08:27:34 2001
From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:27:34 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: native connections in 6bone DB
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110261026170.26511-100000@netcore.fi>

Hello all,

It seems there's some wild practise on whether to put native IPv6
connections to the 6bone database, and if so, how (e.g. IPv6 in IPv6
tunnels), or not.

Any thoughts on this?

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From Florent.Parent@viagenie.qc.ca  Mon Oct 29 15:30:38 2001
From: Florent.Parent@viagenie.qc.ca (Florent Parent)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:30:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: native connections in 6bone DB
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110261026170.26511-100000@netcore.fi>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.40.0110291026170.816-100000@blues.viagenie.qc.ca>


draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-registry-03.txt (now expired) add a new "native"
attribute in the ipv6-site for that purpose.

I don't think it is implemented yet in the current 6bone whois, at least I
don't see any ipv6-site using it.

Florent.

pekkas@netcore.fi wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> It seems there's some wild practise on whether to put native IPv6
> connections to the 6bone database, and if so, how (e.g. IPv6 in IPv6
> tunnels), or not.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
>



From pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt  Tue Oct 30 12:04:57 2001
From: pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt (Pedro Goncalves)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:04:57 -0000
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
Message-ID: <NJEKJKBMCNAKNBBNPOJFKEIECAAA.pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt>

Hello

Currently we (Telepac) are connected to the 6Bone, having RCCN as our upstream pTLD.
We have several IPv6 accessable services (http, irc, nntp...) and we are looking for more
BGP4 peers.
We are running Cisco IOS 12.2.4T on our routers.

Is there someone interested in exchange BGP with us?

thank's

Pedro Goncalves
Telepac - Comunicacoes Interactivas, SA
http://www.ipv6.telepac.pt/


From pekkas@netcore.fi  Tue Oct 30 15:34:17 2001
From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:34:17 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <NJEKJKBMCNAKNBBNPOJFKEIECAAA.pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110301728120.7918-100000@netcore.fi>

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Pedro Goncalves wrote:
> Currently we (Telepac) are connected to the 6Bone, having RCCN as our upstream pTLD.
> We have several IPv6 accessable services (http, irc, nntp...) and we are looking for more
> BGP4 peers.
> We are running Cisco IOS 12.2.4T on our routers.
> 
> Is there someone interested in exchange BGP with us?

Umm, unless I'm mistaking somehow...

I doubt this makes much sense, because the peers you'd talk with would not
be able to advertise your prefix (it's /48, limit is like /24 or /28 or
/35, depending).

If you want better connections, RCCN should be doing the peering.

(we were perhaps in a similar situation; "imprisoned" by our pTLD, so we
went and got a 2001: prefix we can announce anywhere we want)

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From paul@timmins.net  Tue Oct 30 18:10:54 2001
From: paul@timmins.net (Paul Timmins)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:10:54 -0500
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110301728120.7918-100000@netcore.fi>
References: <NJEKJKBMCNAKNBBNPOJFKEIECAAA.pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011030130858.025b3168@new.workbench.net>

If I am not correct, you can establish private peering with anyone who's 
willing - they don't have to announce your prefix to others...
But perhaps this is not what you are looking for...
-Paul

At 10:34 AM 10/30/2001, you wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Pedro Goncalves wrote:
> > Currently we (Telepac) are connected to the 6Bone, having RCCN as our 
> upstream pTLD.
> > We have several IPv6 accessable services (http, irc, nntp...) and we 
> are looking for more
> > BGP4 peers.
> > We are running Cisco IOS 12.2.4T on our routers.
> >
> > Is there someone interested in exchange BGP with us?
>
>Umm, unless I'm mistaking somehow...
>
>I doubt this makes much sense, because the peers you'd talk with would not
>be able to advertise your prefix (it's /48, limit is like /24 or /28 or
>/35, depending).
>
>If you want better connections, RCCN should be doing the peering.
>
>(we were perhaps in a similar situation; "imprisoned" by our pTLD, so we
>went and got a 2001: prefix we can announce anywhere we want)
>
>--
>Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
>Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
>Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From pekkas@netcore.fi  Tue Oct 30 18:20:37 2001
From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:20:37 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011030130858.025b3168@new.workbench.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110302019210.9281-100000@netcore.fi>

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Paul Timmins wrote:
> If I am not correct, you can establish private peering with anyone who's 
> willing - they don't have to announce your prefix to others...
> But perhaps this is not what you are looking for...

Sure, that's possible -- but there's very, very small gain from
establishing private peering with Joe Random 6Boner on purpose of 
enhancing the connectivity or what not.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us  Tue Oct 30 19:03:41 2001
From: michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us (Michel Py)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:03:41 -0800
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
Message-ID: <2B81403386729140A3A899A8B39B046403D3EB@server2000.arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>

Pekka and Pedro,

I assume you meant pTLA, not pTLD?
There is some interest in doing it, let's call it BGP filtering lab.

Michel.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:34 AM
To: Pedro Goncalves
Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for BGP peers

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Pedro Goncalves wrote:
> Currently we (Telepac) are connected to the 6Bone, having RCCN as our
upstream pTLD.
> We have several IPv6 accessable services (http, irc, nntp...) and we
are looking for more
> BGP4 peers.
> We are running Cisco IOS 12.2.4T on our routers.
> 
> Is there someone interested in exchange BGP with us?

Umm, unless I'm mistaking somehow...

I doubt this makes much sense, because the peers you'd talk with would
not
be able to advertise your prefix (it's /48, limit is like /24 or /28 or
/35, depending).

If you want better connections, RCCN should be doing the peering.

(we were perhaps in a similar situation; "imprisoned" by our pTLD, so we
went and got a 2001: prefix we can announce anywhere we want)

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From jfleming@anet.com  Tue Oct 30 19:32:59 2001
From: jfleming@anet.com (Jim Fleming)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:32:59 -0600
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110301728120.7918-100000@netcore.fi>
Message-ID: <012501c16179$b030a680$3e00a8c0@pamela>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pekka Savola" <pekkas@netcore.fi>
> 
> (we were perhaps in a similar situation; "imprisoned" by our pTLD, so we
> went and got a 2001: prefix we can announce anywhere we want)
> 

Do you use a 2002:<IPv4>:0000 prefix ?

http://www.dot-arizona.com/IPv8/IPv4/
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html

JimFleming@Unir.com
http://www.unir.com
http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif
http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif
http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12223.html



From pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt  Tue Oct 30 20:00:20 2001
From: pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt (Pedro Goncalves)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:00:20 -0000
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110301728120.7918-100000@netcore.fi>
Message-ID: <NJEKJKBMCNAKNBBNPOJFOEIHCAAA.pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt>

Hello

>From what i've read, sure we have to keep the routing table small, but entities like mine,
that will need to be IPv6 multihomed in the near future also need to get some experience
before applying for pTLA.

Other option that i see is to obtain another /48 from another pTLA, exchange BGP and use
it on my network.

Yet another option is to exchange BGP with other /48 NLA and do some filtering.

Is that possible/correct within 6Bone??

Pedro Goncalves


-----Original Message-----
From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi]
Sent: terca-feira, 30 de Outubro de 2001 15:34
To: Pedro Goncalves
Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for BGP peers


On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Pedro Goncalves wrote:
> Currently we (Telepac) are connected to the 6Bone, having RCCN as our upstream pTLD.
> We have several IPv6 accessable services (http, irc, nntp...) and we are looking for
more
> BGP4 peers.
> We are running Cisco IOS 12.2.4T on our routers.
>
> Is there someone interested in exchange BGP with us?

Umm, unless I'm mistaking somehow...

I doubt this makes much sense, because the peers you'd talk with would not
be able to advertise your prefix (it's /48, limit is like /24 or /28 or
/35, depending).

If you want better connections, RCCN should be doing the peering.

(we were perhaps in a similar situation; "imprisoned" by our pTLD, so we
went and got a 2001: prefix we can announce anywhere we want)

--
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From pekkas@netcore.fi  Wed Oct 31 10:35:24 2001
From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:35:24 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <20011031094826.A1618@bfib.colo.bit.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110311229180.15263-100000@netcore.fi>

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Pim van Pelt wrote:
> Pekka, others,
> 
> | > If I am not correct, you can establish private peering with anyone who's 
> | > willing - they don't have to announce your prefix to others...
> | > But perhaps this is not what you are looking for...
> | 
> | Sure, that's possible -- but there's very, very small gain from
> | establishing private peering with Joe Random 6Boner on purpose of 
> | enhancing the connectivity or what not.
>
> I totally disagree with this statement; We all know (or should know) that
> the TLAs need to aggregate, however. Let us say that I am some NLA with a
> /48 from my upstream p or sTLA. One computer farther away from me is some
> friend that I frequently exchange traffic with (eg it has a nice ftp archive
> or we do NNTP together) in another NLA (not from my upstream p/sTLA)
> 
> It would be unwise to force traffic from my network over the global backbone
> just to save aggregation. In this case, I would set up a private peering from
> my NLA to theirs, not announcing this to any of my other peers of course.
> 
> I don't think the stricter peering policy was meant to 'forbid' you to peer
> with any other /48 if you see fit; however your routes to that other site
> should never enter the global routing table.

I agree, but this is not what I meant.

If you want to get second /48 prefix to test e.g. multihoming, you can 
contact nearby IPv6 sites directly.  6Bone DB gives very good info on 
this.

If you want to get direct connection to an interesting service, so that 
the traffic will not flow through your own IPv6 upstream, you contact that 
particular destination directly for private peering.

Etc.

Only good I can see for asking for peers _here_ is to enhance "global"  
connectivity of a pTLA.  As there are filtering rules in place, /48 sites 
should not have need for this.

Ie: I'm not saying private peering should not be done; quite the contrary.  

I _am_ questioning the objectives of asking for peers _here_ for 
non-/{24,28,35}.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us  Wed Oct 31 15:48:56 2001
From: michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us (Michel Py)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:48:56 -0800
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
Message-ID: <2B81403386729140A3A899A8B39B046403AED0@server2000.arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>

Pekka -

>> I _am_ questioning the objectives of asking for peers _here_
>> for non-/{24,28,35}.

I think "just because it can be done" is a reasonable reason here, and
it might even bring up some new issues. In the real world, it is a
probable scenario that sometime two /48 that are geographically close
but have different TLAs connect with a cross-over 100 mpbs cable and
want their traffic to be direct. It might be interesting to have lots of
/48 to peer together and watch out if one of these prefixes makes it to
the DFZ routing table.

Michel.


From pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt  Wed Oct 31 16:11:27 2001
From: pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt (Pedro Goncalves)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:11:27 -0000
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110311229180.15263-100000@netcore.fi>
Message-ID: <NJEKJKBMCNAKNBBNPOJFAEIKCAAA.pgoncalves@net.telepac.pt>

Hi

I think this mlist is usefull both to clarify doubts and to improve knowledge on resources
about IPv6 Networks.

When I asked for peers, was because my company and myself are interested on IPv6
deployment, so if this is not the best/right place to do that, i apologise.

One other reason was because i lost my connectivity due a problem within my upstream pTLA.

Best Regards

Pedro Goncalves



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Pekka
Savola
Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2001 10:35
To: Pim van Pelt
Cc: Paul Timmins; 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for BGP peers

...

I _am_ questioning the objectives of asking for peers _here_ for
non-/{24,28,35}.

--
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


From pekkas@netcore.fi  Wed Oct 31 16:37:58 2001
From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:37:58 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Looking for BGP peers
In-Reply-To: <2B81403386729140A3A899A8B39B046403AED0@server2000.arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110311834370.24315-100000@netcore.fi>

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Michel Py wrote:
> >> I _am_ questioning the objectives of asking for peers _here_
> >> for non-/{24,28,35}.
> 
> I think "just because it can be done" is a reasonable reason here, and
> it might even bring up some new issues. In the real world, it is a
> probable scenario that sometime two /48 that are geographically close
> but have different TLAs connect with a cross-over 100 mpbs cable and
> want their traffic to be direct. It might be interesting to have lots of
> /48 to peer together and watch out if one of these prefixes makes it to
> the DFZ routing table.

Sure, but you don't _need_ to ask on 6bone list -- you could just send an 
email or knock your neighbour's door.

Not that I'd be forbidding such queries, but we were kinda in a same 
situation before, in thread:

Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:22:52 +0300 (EEST)
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: 6bone@ISI.EDU
Subject: Filtering prefixes longer than /24

To save the hassle from everyone, it's better not have too high hopes for 
peering unless you have a pTLA.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords