From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Fri Mar 2 14:03:37 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. Flidersan From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Fri Mar 2 16:49:57 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:49:57 -0300 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302134956.A3352@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? http://www.linux-ipv6.org/ > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From mhw@wittsend.com Fri Mar 2 17:13:33 2001 From: mhw@wittsend.com (Michael H. Warfield) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:13:33 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302121333.A2452@alcove.wittsend.com> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? Have you tried looking on any of the source CD's that come with any of the distributions? Just get the kernel source tarball from kernel.org and you'll find it in there. The 2.4.2 sources would be this: ftp://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz or http://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz Replace the ?? with a country code for a near-by mirror. Check out www.kernel.org for more information. You'll find a list of mirror sites here: http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/ and there is at least one there in "id". > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan Mike -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! From gmaxwell@martin.fl.us Fri Mar 2 17:57:35 2001 From: gmaxwell@martin.fl.us (Greg Maxwell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:57:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? > > Thanks in advance. I'd be glad to sell you the complete Linux kernel and source (including TCP/IP) with license on CD for $2234.00 (USD) + shipping. :) Of course, you might want to try ftp.kernel.org, unless you are looking for more then the body of your message implied. :) From pete@research.netsol.com Fri Mar 2 19:03:59 2001 From: pete@research.netsol.com (Pete Toscano) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:03:59 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302140359.A4872@tesla.admin.cto.netsol.com> --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? >=20 > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > Flidersan >=20 >=20 --=20 Pete Toscano pete@research.netsol.com 703.948.3364 GPG fingerprint: D8F5 A087 9A4C 56BB 8F78 B29C 1FF0 1BA7 9008 2736 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6n+6fH/Abp5AIJzYRAj7oAJ9v55Uaw53rqRiFt8VZWkovk3o/6wCaAs2w Tm6VD4n2uv2uA8xdXkern50= =RHeg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From galt@inconnu.isu.edu Fri Mar 2 19:48:25 2001 From: galt@inconnu.isu.edu (John Galt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:48:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ftp.kernel.org I think the USAGI kernel has some good modifications you might want to look at too (to keep this thread remotely on-topic :) That'd be at ftp.linux-ipv6.org On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: >Hello Guys? > >Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for >TCP/IP in Linux? > >Thanks in advance. > >Flidersan > > -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu. that's who! From info@caladan.net Sat Mar 3 18:21:47 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:21:47 -0000 Subject: pTLA rules for application Message-ID: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> I have a question regarding the guidelines for applying for a pTLA for the 6bone... RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate connection point into the 6Bone." Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route further up is available? In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the backbone. Seems like a chicken and egg situation? Perhaps someone could clarify this for me. Thanks, Chris From tony@lava.net Sat Mar 3 20:47:19 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:47:19 -1000 (HST) Subject: pTLA rules for application In-Reply-To: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 info@caladan.net wrote: > RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: > > "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone." > > Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you > shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route > further up is available? I don't think this is a golden rule of BGP nor of any routing protocol. It might be a peering agreement rule but even so your upstreams can always apply filters if they don't want to hear (or propagate) your more specific advertisements. > In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't > be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the > backbone. > > Seems like a chicken and egg situation? No not really. Someone delegates a pNLA or pSLA to you out of their address space initially. You peer with them. They aggregate your announcement into theirs. You get the rest of your 6Bone house in order (meet other RFC 2772 requirements) and wait 3 months. Then apply for your own pTLA. From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 09:47:25 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: Hello all, It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only saw 2002::/16). Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. Or is there reasons why this is not done? BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 11:14:42 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:14:42 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only >saw 2002::/16). > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to announce that route. >Or is there reasons why this is not done? do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? itojun From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 11:54:23 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only > >saw 2002::/16). > > > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because > >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > > > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those > >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. > > see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to > 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to > announce that route. Ah. A new RFC. :-) >From 5.10, I gather: EGP (i.e., BGP) routing will include advertisements for the 2002::/16 prefix from relay routers into the native IPv6 domain, whose scope is limited by routing policy. This is the only non-native IPv6 prefix advertised by BGP. I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at all or have they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look like somewhere else too ] This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in aggregates always bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you could get rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably almost always be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. This would in part transfer some routing table expansion problems of IPv4 to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 12:45:48 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:45:48 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200. Message-ID: <8867.983709948@coconut.itojun.org> >[ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look >like somewhere else too ] try http://www.6tap.net/6tap/6tap-lg.html, select "IPv6" on pulldown menu and type "route" into the input box. I don't see 2002::16 at this moment btw. itojun From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Sun Mar 4 15:32:39 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:32:39 +0100 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <200103041532.f24FWdA38291@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. => Brian Carpenter should answer (:-)... BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? => I have an experimental looking glass for BGP4+ with IPv6. It needs to be secured and put on a backbone router (it should be soon because this is the purpose). The result is: Router: Aricie Command: show bgp ipv6 2002::/16 BGP routing table entry for 2002::/16, version 13836923 Paths: (1 available, best #1) Flag: 0x208 Not advertised to any peer 1938 2200 2611 5511 4697 1251 109 2001:660:281:1::1 (inaccessible) from 2001:660:282:1:200:CFF:FE3F:1D17 (192.108.119.137) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best The router is in the RENATER sub**n TLA. The 2002::/16 gateway seems to be ipv6-router.cisco.com. Francis.Dupont From lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn Mon Mar 5 01:14:24 2001 From: lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn (Lzy) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: IPv6 security Message-ID: <004301c0a512$44781a50$fb466fa6@lzy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C0A555.4FC3F760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. 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You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. 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You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. 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Flidersan) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. Flidersan From lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn Mon Mar 5 01:14:24 2001 From: lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn (Lzy) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: IPv6 security Message-ID: <004301c0a512$44781a50$fb466fa6@lzy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C0A555.4FC3F760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. 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Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? > > Thanks in advance. I'd be glad to sell you the complete Linux kernel and source (including TCP/IP) with license on CD for $2234.00 (USD) + shipping. :) Of course, you might want to try ftp.kernel.org, unless you are looking for more then the body of your message implied. :) From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 09:47:25 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: Hello all, It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only saw 2002::/16). Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. Or is there reasons why this is not done? BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 11:54:23 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only > >saw 2002::/16). > > > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because > >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > > > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those > >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. > > see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to > 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to > announce that route. Ah. A new RFC. :-) >From 5.10, I gather: EGP (i.e., BGP) routing will include advertisements for the 2002::/16 prefix from relay routers into the native IPv6 domain, whose scope is limited by routing policy. This is the only non-native IPv6 prefix advertised by BGP. I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at all or have they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look like somewhere else too ] This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in aggregates always bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you could get rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably almost always be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. This would in part transfer some routing table expansion problems of IPv4 to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 12:45:48 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:45:48 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200. Message-ID: <8867.983709948@coconut.itojun.org> >[ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look >like somewhere else too ] try http://www.6tap.net/6tap/6tap-lg.html, select "IPv6" on pulldown menu and type "route" into the input box. I don't see 2002::16 at this moment btw. itojun From galt@inconnu.isu.edu Fri Mar 2 19:48:25 2001 From: galt@inconnu.isu.edu (John Galt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:48:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ftp.kernel.org I think the USAGI kernel has some good modifications you might want to look at too (to keep this thread remotely on-topic :) That'd be at ftp.linux-ipv6.org On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: >Hello Guys? > >Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for >TCP/IP in Linux? > >Thanks in advance. > >Flidersan > > -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu. that's who! From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Fri Mar 2 16:49:57 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:49:57 -0300 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302134956.A3352@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? http://www.linux-ipv6.org/ > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From tony@lava.net Mon Mar 5 09:23:30 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -1000 (HST) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Pekka Savola wrote: > [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look > like somewhere else too ] You can try our Zebra Looking Glass at: http://www.ipv6.lava.net/cgi-bin/lg.pl From lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn Mon Mar 5 01:16:58 2001 From: lzy@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn (Lzy) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:16:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: IPv6 security Message-ID: <001501c0a512$ba7d1d90$fb466fa6@lzy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0A555.C7DB5FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. 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Aad At 05:16 PM 3/4/01 -0800, Lzy wrote: >I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the >kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel >mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: >ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at >http://www.kernel.org. > >HTH, >pete > >On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > > > Hello Guys? > > > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > > TCP/IP in Linux? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Flidersan > > > > > >-- >Pete Toscano pete@research.netsol.com 703.948.3364 >GPG fingerprint: D8F5 A087 9A4C 56BB 8F78 B29C 1FF0 1BA7 9008 2736 =================================================================== / Aad van der Zanden. | POSTAL ADDRESS: / Communications Systems Division | / NATO C3 Agency | NATO C3 Agency / Email : Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int | P.O. BOX 174 / Phone : +31 (0)70 3142440 | 2501 CD The Hague / Fax : +31 (0)70 3142176 | The Netherlands / ================================================================= / PGP FP: 57CA 5E23 E6EB 1375 3D2A 6FE0 B9B0 ED22 44A1 D279 =================================================================== From info@caladan.net Sat Mar 3 18:21:47 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:21:47 -0000 Subject: pTLA rules for application Message-ID: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> I have a question regarding the guidelines for applying for a pTLA for the 6bone... RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate connection point into the 6Bone." Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route further up is available? In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the backbone. Seems like a chicken and egg situation? Perhaps someone could clarify this for me. Thanks, Chris From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 11:14:42 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:14:42 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only >saw 2002::/16). > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to announce that route. >Or is there reasons why this is not done? do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? itojun From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 12:45:48 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:45:48 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200. Message-ID: <8867.983709948@coconut.itojun.org> >[ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look >like somewhere else too ] try http://www.6tap.net/6tap/6tap-lg.html, select "IPv6" on pulldown menu and type "route" into the input box. I don't see 2002::16 at this moment btw. itojun From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 09:47:25 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: Hello all, It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only saw 2002::/16). Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. Or is there reasons why this is not done? BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Fri Mar 2 14:03:37 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. Flidersan From gmaxwell@martin.fl.us Fri Mar 2 17:57:35 2001 From: gmaxwell@martin.fl.us (Greg Maxwell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:57:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? > > Thanks in advance. I'd be glad to sell you the complete Linux kernel and source (including TCP/IP) with license on CD for $2234.00 (USD) + shipping. :) Of course, you might want to try ftp.kernel.org, unless you are looking for more then the body of your message implied. :) From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 11:54:23 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only > >saw 2002::/16). > > > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because > >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > > > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those > >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. > > see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to > 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to > announce that route. Ah. A new RFC. :-) >From 5.10, I gather: EGP (i.e., BGP) routing will include advertisements for the 2002::/16 prefix from relay routers into the native IPv6 domain, whose scope is limited by routing policy. This is the only non-native IPv6 prefix advertised by BGP. I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at all or have they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look like somewhere else too ] This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in aggregates always bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you could get rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably almost always be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. This would in part transfer some routing table expansion problems of IPv4 to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From tony@lava.net Sat Mar 3 20:47:19 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:47:19 -1000 (HST) Subject: pTLA rules for application In-Reply-To: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 info@caladan.net wrote: > RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: > > "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone." > > Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you > shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route > further up is available? I don't think this is a golden rule of BGP nor of any routing protocol. It might be a peering agreement rule but even so your upstreams can always apply filters if they don't want to hear (or propagate) your more specific advertisements. > In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't > be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the > backbone. > > Seems like a chicken and egg situation? No not really. Someone delegates a pNLA or pSLA to you out of their address space initially. You peer with them. They aggregate your announcement into theirs. You get the rest of your 6Bone house in order (meet other RFC 2772 requirements) and wait 3 months. Then apply for your own pTLA. From mhw@wittsend.com Fri Mar 2 17:13:33 2001 From: mhw@wittsend.com (Michael H. Warfield) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:13:33 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302121333.A2452@alcove.wittsend.com> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? Have you tried looking on any of the source CD's that come with any of the distributions? Just get the kernel source tarball from kernel.org and you'll find it in there. The 2.4.2 sources would be this: ftp://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz or http://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz Replace the ?? with a country code for a near-by mirror. Check out www.kernel.org for more information. You'll find a list of mirror sites here: http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/ and there is at least one there in "id". > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan Mike -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! From ytti@teliafi.net Mon Mar 5 13:16:54 2001 From: ytti@teliafi.net (Saku Ytti) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:16:54 +0200 Subject: IPv6 BGP-peerings Message-ID: <20010305151654.A25373@mail.teliafi.net> Is there some list for BGP-relations, filters and such? Or is this list correct for that topic also? I'd want to reach active members, willing to peer with us. (AS6793) -- ytti From tcp6@mail.be Mon Mar 5 12:32:40 2001 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:32:40 -0800 Subject: IPv6 security Message-ID: <200103051232.EAA25918@mail3.bigmailbox.com> Hello there, I think you have a virus as an attachment on every one of your E-mails Please scan your computer. thanks. the suspected virus= Emanuel.exe be carefull. ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Sun Mar 4 15:32:39 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:32:39 +0100 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <200103041532.f24FWdA38291@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. => Brian Carpenter should answer (:-)... BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? => I have an experimental looking glass for BGP4+ with IPv6. It needs to be secured and put on a backbone router (it should be soon because this is the purpose). The result is: Router: Aricie Command: show bgp ipv6 2002::/16 BGP routing table entry for 2002::/16, version 13836923 Paths: (1 available, best #1) Flag: 0x208 Not advertised to any peer 1938 2200 2611 5511 4697 1251 109 2001:660:281:1::1 (inaccessible) from 2001:660:282:1:200:CFF:FE3F:1D17 (192.108.119.137) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best The router is in the RENATER sub**n TLA. The 2002::/16 gateway seems to be ipv6-router.cisco.com. Francis.Dupont From stuart.prevost@bt.com Mon Mar 5 13:24:37 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:24:37 -0000 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413ED4@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> 6to4.ipv6.bt.com is operational and I am announcing 2002::/16 If you are having trouble using this then please let me know. Regards, Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:54 AM > To: 6bone > Subject: Re: 6to4 prefix announcements? > > > I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic > between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. > > Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or > 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, > from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at > all or have > they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? > > [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP > announcements look > like somewhere else too ] > > This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > > > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? > > Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in > aggregates always > bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you > could get > rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably > almost always > be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. > > This would in part transfer some routing table expansion > problems of IPv4 > to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. > > -- > Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, > Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" > Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords > From pete@research.netsol.com Fri Mar 2 19:03:59 2001 From: pete@research.netsol.com (Pete Toscano) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:03:59 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302140359.A4872@tesla.admin.cto.netsol.com> --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? >=20 > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > Flidersan >=20 >=20 --=20 Pete Toscano pete@research.netsol.com 703.948.3364 GPG fingerprint: D8F5 A087 9A4C 56BB 8F78 B29C 1FF0 1BA7 9008 2736 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6n+6fH/Abp5AIJzYRAj7oAJ9v55Uaw53rqRiFt8VZWkovk3o/6wCaAs2w Tm6VD4n2uv2uA8xdXkern50= =RHeg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Mar 5 17:24:02 2001 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:24:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: loop testing Message-ID: <200103051724.f25HO2E21649@zed.isi.edu> There is a misconfigured mailer somewhere in the list hierarchy that is remailing mail. This is a first test mail. -- "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From pekkas@netcore.fi Mon Mar 5 17:50:19 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:50:19 +0200 (EET) Subject: LIST: Duplicates of Cc: messages Message-ID: Hello all, Is there something _really_ wrong with the list? If someone replies on the list and Cc:'s me, I get a _lot_ of duplicate mails. These seem to be drifting at the rate of a couple a day. Dozens of other lists I'm subscribed to are fine. For example: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:50:18 +0530 (IST) From: Hareesh V H To: Pekka Savola Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Designing IPv6 network guidelines? [received _13_ copies so far!] Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:33:06 -0300 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar To: Pekka Savola Cc: itojun@iijlab.net, 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Designing IPv6 network guidelines? [9!] Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) From: R. Flidersan To: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Cc: Pekka Savola , itojun@iijlab.net, 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: IPv6 security [6] etc. WTF is going on here? _Don't_ Cc: me :-/ -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Mar 5 19:14:29 2001 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:14:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Test#2 Message-ID: <200103051914.f25JET321939@zed.isi.edu> narrowing down the loop -- --bill From tony@lava.net Mon Mar 5 19:42:01 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:42:01 -1000 (HST) Subject: 3ffe:8x00::/24 filtering? Message-ID: While surveying some of the 6Bone looking glass sites I noticed that some of the recently added 6Bone sites aren't seen by some sites. The pattern I've noticed so far suggests that perhaps sites in the 3ffe:8100::/24 and/or 3ffe:8000::/24 ranges may be filtered somewhere. I'm wondering if anyone is seeing any other pattern? From galt@inconnu.isu.edu Mon Mar 5 20:55:03 2001 From: galt@inconnu.isu.edu (John Galt) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: loop testing In-Reply-To: <200103051724.f25HO2E21649@zed.isi.edu> Message-ID: THANK YOU!!!!! On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Bill Manning wrote: > >There is a misconfigured mailer somewhere in the list >hierarchy that is remailing mail. This is a first test mail. > > -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu, that's who! From fink@es.net Mon Mar 5 21:46:54 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:46:54 -0800 Subject: pTLA request for TIAI - closes 19Mar01 Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010305134440.00a84500@imap2.es.net> 6bone Folk, TIAI has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review period for this will close 19 Mar 2001. Please send any comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob ====================================== >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:17:29 -0500 (EST) >From: Jason >To: fink@es.net >Subject: TIAI pTLA Application > > >7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites > >The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. > >It should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are >expected to provide production quality backbone network services >for the 6Bone. > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. > During the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be > operationally providing the following: > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for > their ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, > including each tunnel that the Applicant has. > >We have been on the 6bone since November 1999. Since that time we have >kept our site records, along with our netblock records up to date. Out >maintainer block never accepted, but this has since been remedied. > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6 > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request. > >We currently have a tunnel to Merit and are acting as a transit pLNA. We >have downstream tunnels for over 10 sites currently and are always willing >to bring up more tunnels on request. We have been running BGP4+ with >Merit since early 2000, first with a private ASN, and more recently with >our assigned ASN. The gateway router on site is ipv6.toledolink.com which >should be ipv6 and ipv4 pingable. > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int) > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host > system. > >Our forward and reverse zones have been set up and functioning properly >since early 2000. Mainstream ipv6 services are being rolled out and all >new machines have both ipv4 and 6 connectivity. DNS is being updated as >this happens. > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing > the Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 > pingable. > >The machine raistlin.ipv6.toledolink.com has had ipv6 aware apache running >on it for some time. I have updated our ipv6 services page and added it >to our site entry. I have also pointed www.ipv6.toledolink.com to it. > >In addition, we have several ipv6 aware maileservers on site, with at >least one (mail.ipv6.tacorp.net) receiving mail via the 6bone. > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > This MUST include the following: > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, > with person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site > object for the pTLA applicant. > >We have 2 people on site with person entries and famaliar with it. We >have several more who are learning it and will create person objects as >they are brought up to speed. > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all > support staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify > attribute in the ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant. > >We have the common ipv6@toledolink.com mailbox to address this. Once the >process of converting the toledolink.com mailserver to an ipv6 aware OS is >complete (It is in process), this will also accept ipv6 mail. > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or > focus of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and > information in support this claim. > >We believe that the internet as a whole is a potential community. We have >been providing tunnel services to anyone who asks, and I am involved in >several projects in which we will be adding ipv6 support. I believe that >the need is there for someone to provide tunnels to sites doing >development of ipv6 services, and it is a niche I wish to fill. > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of > the 6Bone backbone and user community. > >I have no reason to believe I am breaking any policies. Let me know if I >am. > > > When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply > to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to > the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the > criteria above. > >Thanks, > >Jason > >--- >Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA >Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio >- raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 >/"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . > X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . >/ \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . From jslagle@toledolink.com Mon Mar 5 22:13:48 2001 From: jslagle@toledolink.com (Jason) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:13:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: pTLA request for TIAI - closes 19Mar01 In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010305134440.00a84500@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: I'd like to ask that if you send em to bob you could send them to me also. I'd be interested in any feedback. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Bob Fink wrote: > 6bone Folk, > > TIAI has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review period for this will > close 19 Mar 2001. Please send any comments to me or the list. > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > ====================================== > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:17:29 -0500 (EST) > >From: Jason > >To: fink@es.net > >Subject: TIAI pTLA Application > > > > > >7. Guidelines for 6Bone pTLA sites > > > >The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. > > > >It should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are > >expected to provide production quality backbone network services > >for the 6Bone. > > > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. > > During the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be > > operationally providing the following: > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for > > their ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, > > including each tunnel that the Applicant has. > > > >We have been on the 6bone since November 1999. Since that time we have > >kept our site records, along with our netblock records up to date. Out > >maintainer block never accepted, but this has since been remedied. > > > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6 > > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone > > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request. > > > >We currently have a tunnel to Merit and are acting as a transit pLNA. We > >have downstream tunnels for over 10 sites currently and are always willing > >to bring up more tunnels on request. We have been running BGP4+ with > >Merit since early 2000, first with a private ASN, and more recently with > >our assigned ASN. The gateway router on site is ipv6.toledolink.com which > >should be ipv6 and ipv4 pingable. > > > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int) > > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host > > system. > > > >Our forward and reverse zones have been set up and functioning properly > >since early 2000. Mainstream ipv6 services are being rolled out and all > >new machines have both ipv4 and 6 connectivity. DNS is being updated as > >this happens. > > > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system > > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing > > the Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 > > pingable. > > > >The machine raistlin.ipv6.toledolink.com has had ipv6 aware apache running > >on it for some time. I have updated our ipv6 services page and added it > >to our site entry. I have also pointed www.ipv6.toledolink.com to it. > > > >In addition, we have several ipv6 aware maileservers on site, with at > >least one (mail.ipv6.tacorp.net) receiving mail via the 6bone. > > > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > > This MUST include the following: > > > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, > > with person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site > > object for the pTLA applicant. > > > >We have 2 people on site with person entries and famaliar with it. We > >have several more who are learning it and will create person objects as > >they are brought up to speed. > > > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all > > support staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify > > attribute in the ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant. > > > >We have the common ipv6@toledolink.com mailbox to address this. Once the > >process of converting the toledolink.com mailserver to an ipv6 aware OS is > >complete (It is in process), this will also accept ipv6 mail. > > > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or > > focus of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and > > information in support this claim. > > > >We believe that the internet as a whole is a potential community. We have > >been providing tunnel services to anyone who asks, and I am involved in > >several projects in which we will be adding ipv6 support. I believe that > >the need is there for someone to provide tunnels to sites doing > >development of ipv6 services, and it is a niche I wish to fill. > > > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of > > the 6Bone backbone and user community. > > > >I have no reason to believe I am breaking any policies. Let me know if I > >am. > > > > > > When an Applicant seeks to receive a pTLA allocation, it will apply > > to the 6Bone Operations Group (see section 8 below) by providing to > > the Group information in support of its claims that it meets the > > criteria above. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jason > > > >--- > >Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA > >Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio > >- raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 > >/"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . > > X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . > >/ \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . > > From syz@dds.nl Mon Mar 5 22:36:23 2001 From: syz@dds.nl (Bram Matthys) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:36:23 +0100 Subject: loop testing References: <200103051724.f25HO2E21649@zed.isi.edu> Message-ID: <3AA414E7.8F03ABEF@dds.nl> yes, I've received the same mail(s) 2 times.. and it looks like I'm now receiving them for the 3rd time, and some for the 4th... waaaah.. :) Syzop. Bill Manning wrote: > There is a misconfigured mailer somewhere in the list > hierarchy that is remailing mail. This is a first test mail. > > -- > "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Fri Mar 2 14:03:37 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. Flidersan From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 11:54:23 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only > >saw 2002::/16). > > > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because > >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > > > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those > >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. > > see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to > 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to > announce that route. Ah. A new RFC. :-) >From 5.10, I gather: EGP (i.e., BGP) routing will include advertisements for the 2002::/16 prefix from relay routers into the native IPv6 domain, whose scope is limited by routing policy. This is the only non-native IPv6 prefix advertised by BGP. I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at all or have they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look like somewhere else too ] This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in aggregates always bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you could get rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably almost always be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. This would in part transfer some routing table expansion problems of IPv4 to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Mar 6 08:54:54 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:54:54 -0000 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EDC@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Brad wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Huntting [mailto:huntting@hunkular.glarp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:11 AM > To: stuart.prevost@bt.com > Cc: pekkas@netcore.fi; 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: 6to4 prefix announcements? > > > > > 6to4.ipv6.bt.com is operational and I am announcing 2002::/16 > > > If you are having trouble using this then please let me know. > > Regards, > > Stuart > > Does anyone see this announcement? It's not showing up on either > of the two 6bone connections here. > > > brad > > P.S. "here" = > 2001:428:e02:1::1 > 3ffe:1900:c001:1::1 > Here I currently receive the 2002::/16 prefix from 5 peers in the DFZ. Also I can reach both your IPv6 addresses. Maybe 6to4 connectivity is more wide spread in Europe ? I know that from my own experience I have always seen the 2002::/16 prefix, and we act as a 6to4 relay router which is getting used. I hope this helps? Stuart From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Mar 6 09:12:21 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:12:21 -0000 Subject: 3ffe:8x00::/24 filtering? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EDD@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Antonio, No filtering where I am, can see all 24 /28 prefixes. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonio Querubin [mailto:tony@lava.net] > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:42 PM > To: 6bone > Subject: 3ffe:8x00::/24 filtering? > > > While surveying some of the 6Bone looking glass sites I > noticed that some > of the recently added 6Bone sites aren't seen by some sites. > The pattern > I've noticed so far suggests that perhaps sites in the 3ffe:8100::/24 > and/or 3ffe:8000::/24 ranges may be filtered somewhere. I'm > wondering if > anyone is seeing any other pattern? > > From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Tue Mar 6 15:10:16 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem Message-ID: Greetings, I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use as BGP4+ peering mesh. But, I get two 'add' things: - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost to: gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x12 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 What is 'error nr. 17'? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Tue Mar 6 16:25:16 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:25:16 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100." Message-ID: <7830.983895916@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) From: Kristoff Bonne Message-ID: | What is 'error nr. 17'? EEXIST - that's telling you the route you're trying to add is already in the routing table. What does your routing table look like, after you boot and have set up the tunnel, before and after you start the routing processes? kre From itojun@iijlab.net Tue Mar 6 16:41:07 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:41:07 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: kristoff.bonne's message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100. Message-ID: <14637.983896867@coconut.itojun.org> >I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD >problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd >newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > >I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use >as BGP4+ peering mesh. > >But, I get two 'add' things: >- When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: >ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family i guess this is due to some issue in /sbin/ifconfig. please ignore it for now. >- In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: >Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a >neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 >What is 'error nr. 17'? > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 the above error is generated because of this configuration. please use either of the following: ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 128 alias ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 prefixlen 64 alias if you specify both of the addresses, use prefixlen = 128; otherwise, use prefixlen = 64 (or 127 if you really want to). latest KAME code checks the condition on ioctl time. itojun From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Tue Mar 6 16:40:34 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:40:34 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP server and some test software. Thanks in advance. Flidersan From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Tue Mar 6 17:17:26 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0300 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306141726.A14381@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! I'd the same problem with FBSD (they both use KAME, so there is the same thing) Use prefixlen 64 or 128. 127 is invalid prefixlen (and new KAME versions will not let you set it) HoraPe On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > Greetings, > > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > > I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use > as BGP4+ peering mesh. > > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 > > > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 > > What is 'error nr. 17'? > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN > kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 > -- HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From tony@lava.net Tue Mar 6 17:27:06 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 In /etc/sysctl.conf try setting net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 and/or doing a 'rtadvd gif1'. From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Tue Mar 6 18:29:59 2001 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:59 +0100 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306192959.B3337@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. You could try snap-users@kame.net (The Kame-stack is what is integrated in OpenBSD) as alternative. I use NetBSD which also integrated the Kame IPv6 stack, but things may be different between the different BSDs, so I may be wrong below. > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe the only prefixlengths Kame accepts for a gif tunnel are 64 and 128. BTW, for a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel there's not requiremetn to assign global v6 addresses to the tunnel endpoints. However, the error-msg you got more likely points to some kind of routing problem. Check netstat -rn the right protocol is send over the right interface. There should be no IPv4 routeing entry in your routing table pointing over your gif interface. > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 This is either a prefixlen problem (as I mentioned above) or the machine on the other side of the tunnel is misconfigured (is the other side also a BSD machine?). However, I think these messages are mostly harmless and should not prevent you from getting traffic through your tunnel. Feico. From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Tue Mar 6 20:20:59 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:20:59 +0100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:40:34 +0700. Message-ID: <200103062021.f26KL0A60540@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP server and some test software. => if you need a DHCPv4 then you can get the ISC one or the WIDE one... If you need a DHCPv6 then there is nothing (yet) for the last specs. Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Tue Mar 6 21:51:18 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:51:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: from "R. Flidersan" at Mar 06, 2001 11:40:34 PM Message-ID: <200103062151.f26LpJV03923@bfib.ipng.nl> > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP > server and some > test software. ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/dhcp/ has the leading software program. You can google for 'dhclient' also, which is a client-side program from another author - many people use this as client. regards, Pim -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Fri Mar 2 14:03:37 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. Flidersan From info@caladan.net Tue Mar 6 22:37:01 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:37:01 -0000 Subject: gated and Linux Message-ID: <200103062236.f26Mak525515@tleilax.caladan.net> Does anyone have any sample config files for gated on Linux ? Thanks, Chris From tony@lava.net Tue Mar 6 23:27:55 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:27:55 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: <20010306192959.B3337@pasta.cs.uit.no> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Feico Dillema wrote: > > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I believe the only prefixlengths Kame accepts for a gif tunnel are 64 > and 128. Anyone know what's the rationale for allowing only those 2 values? I can understand allowing the 64 but disallowing 127 while allowing 128 seems overly restrictive. You do need to know there's at least 1 other on-link device on the same interface to setup BGP peering. Otherwise it seems that in the case of a 128 prefixlength, one would need to do ebgp multihop as well as add a static route to the remote peer address, or in the 64 prefixlength case, waste a SLA for the link? From itojun@iijlab.net Tue Mar 6 23:36:21 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:36:21 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: tony's message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -1000. Message-ID: <18823.983921781@coconut.itojun.org> >> But, I get two 'add' things: >> - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: >> ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family >> >> But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost >> to: >> gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 >> physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 >> inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid >> 0x12 >> inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 > >In /etc/sysctl.conf try setting net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 and/or doing >a 'rtadvd gif1'. i don't think that is the right answer for the submitter's environment.... itojun From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Mar 6 09:12:21 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:12:21 -0000 Subject: 3ffe:8x00::/24 filtering? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EDD@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Antonio, No filtering where I am, can see all 24 /28 prefixes. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonio Querubin [mailto:tony@lava.net] > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:42 PM > To: 6bone > Subject: 3ffe:8x00::/24 filtering? > > > While surveying some of the 6Bone looking glass sites I > noticed that some > of the recently added 6Bone sites aren't seen by some sites. > The pattern > I've noticed so far suggests that perhaps sites in the 3ffe:8100::/24 > and/or 3ffe:8000::/24 ranges may be filtered somewhere. I'm > wondering if > anyone is seeing any other pattern? > > From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Mar 6 08:54:54 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:54:54 -0000 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EDC@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Brad wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Huntting [mailto:huntting@hunkular.glarp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:11 AM > To: stuart.prevost@bt.com > Cc: pekkas@netcore.fi; 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: 6to4 prefix announcements? > > > > > 6to4.ipv6.bt.com is operational and I am announcing 2002::/16 > > > If you are having trouble using this then please let me know. > > Regards, > > Stuart > > Does anyone see this announcement? It's not showing up on either > of the two 6bone connections here. > > > brad > > P.S. "here" = > 2001:428:e02:1::1 > 3ffe:1900:c001:1::1 > Here I currently receive the 2002::/16 prefix from 5 peers in the DFZ. Also I can reach both your IPv6 addresses. Maybe 6to4 connectivity is more wide spread in Europe ? I know that from my own experience I have always seen the 2002::/16 prefix, and we act as a 6to4 relay router which is getting used. I hope this helps? Stuart From itojun@iijlab.net Wed Mar 7 00:38:20 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:38:20 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: tony's message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:27:55 -1000. Message-ID: <19755.983925500@coconut.itojun.org> >> > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> I believe the only prefixlengths Kame accepts for a gif tunnel are 64 >> and 128. >Anyone know what's the rationale for allowing only those 2 values? I can >understand allowing the 64 but disallowing 127 while allowing 128 seems >overly restrictive. You do need to know there's at least 1 other on-link >device on the same interface to setup BGP peering. Otherwise it seems >that in the case of a 128 prefixlength, one would need to do ebgp multihop >as well as add a static route to the remote peer address, or in the 64 >prefixlength case, waste a SLA for the link? you should be okay to use 127 (never tested), as long as you do not specify the peer's address. the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. let us assume that we have configured like "A prefixlen 64" (or 127). this lets you know that, on the interfrace, we have A/64 network and my address is A. when we see some address under A/64, we throw it out to the interface. let us assume that we have configured like "A B prefixlen 128". this means that my side is A, and the other side is B. when we say "A B prefixlen 64" (or 127), we have A/64 network and the peer is B. the information is ambiguous and affects neighbor determination. itojun From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Tue Mar 6 16:25:16 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:25:16 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100." Message-ID: <7830.983895916@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) From: Kristoff Bonne Message-ID: | What is 'error nr. 17'? EEXIST - that's telling you the route you're trying to add is already in the routing table. What does your routing table look like, after you boot and have set up the tunnel, before and after you start the routing processes? kre From tony@lava.net Tue Mar 6 17:27:06 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 In /etc/sysctl.conf try setting net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 and/or doing a 'rtadvd gif1'. From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Tue Mar 6 15:10:16 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem Message-ID: Greetings, I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use as BGP4+ peering mesh. But, I get two 'add' things: - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost to: gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x12 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 What is 'error nr. 17'? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From itojun@iijlab.net Tue Mar 6 16:41:07 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:41:07 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: kristoff.bonne's message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100. Message-ID: <14637.983896867@coconut.itojun.org> >I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD >problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd >newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > >I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use >as BGP4+ peering mesh. > >But, I get two 'add' things: >- When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: >ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family i guess this is due to some issue in /sbin/ifconfig. please ignore it for now. >- In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: >Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a >neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 >What is 'error nr. 17'? > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 the above error is generated because of this configuration. please use either of the following: ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 128 alias ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 prefixlen 64 alias if you specify both of the addresses, use prefixlen = 128; otherwise, use prefixlen = 64 (or 127 if you really want to). latest KAME code checks the condition on ioctl time. itojun From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Tue Mar 6 16:40:34 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:40:34 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP server and some test software. Thanks in advance. Flidersan From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Tue Mar 6 18:29:59 2001 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:59 +0100 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306192959.B3337@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. You could try snap-users@kame.net (The Kame-stack is what is integrated in OpenBSD) as alternative. I use NetBSD which also integrated the Kame IPv6 stack, but things may be different between the different BSDs, so I may be wrong below. > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe the only prefixlengths Kame accepts for a gif tunnel are 64 and 128. BTW, for a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel there's not requiremetn to assign global v6 addresses to the tunnel endpoints. However, the error-msg you got more likely points to some kind of routing problem. Check netstat -rn the right protocol is send over the right interface. There should be no IPv4 routeing entry in your routing table pointing over your gif interface. > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 This is either a prefixlen problem (as I mentioned above) or the machine on the other side of the tunnel is misconfigured (is the other side also a BSD machine?). However, I think these messages are mostly harmless and should not prevent you from getting traffic through your tunnel. Feico. From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Tue Mar 6 17:17:26 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0300 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306141726.A14381@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! I'd the same problem with FBSD (they both use KAME, so there is the same thing) Use prefixlen 64 or 128. 127 is invalid prefixlen (and new KAME versions will not let you set it) HoraPe On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > Greetings, > > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > > I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use > as BGP4+ peering mesh. > > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 > > > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 > > What is 'error nr. 17'? > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN > kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 > -- HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Tue Mar 6 20:20:59 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:20:59 +0100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:40:34 +0700. Message-ID: <200103062021.f26KL0A60540@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP server and some test software. => if you need a DHCPv4 then you can get the ISC one or the WIDE one... If you need a DHCPv6 then there is nothing (yet) for the last specs. Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr From tony@lava.net Tue Mar 6 17:27:06 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 In /etc/sysctl.conf try setting net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 and/or doing a 'rtadvd gif1'. From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Tue Mar 6 16:25:16 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:25:16 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100." Message-ID: <7830.983895916@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) From: Kristoff Bonne Message-ID: | What is 'error nr. 17'? EEXIST - that's telling you the route you're trying to add is already in the routing table. What does your routing table look like, after you boot and have set up the tunnel, before and after you start the routing processes? kre From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Mar 7 06:48:59 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:48:59 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:38:20 +0900." <19755.983925500@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:38:20 +0900 From: itojun@iijlab.net Message-ID: <19755.983925500@coconut.itojun.org> | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) But where the mask is 127, there are only two possible addresses, mine and his - I'm not sending packets out at all if the address is mine (unless I like to implement that as a connectivity test and loop them through the peer) - in the other case, the address is his, and sending it to him (the peer) is clearly correct, whatever reasoning gets you to send it that way. Given that people want to be able to configure things this way (it suits their sense of aesthetics) and that it should do no real harm, I'd probably allow it - and then just treat it internally as if the prefixlen were 128 (but keep the /127 to return when requested so people don't get confused). I might even want to allow /126 for the same kind of reason, though that starts to get messier. Nothing shorter makes sense though. kre From carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph Wed Mar 7 07:40:26 2001 From: carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph (Carla Quiblat) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:40:26 +0800 (HKT) Subject: How to configure host to ipv6 only In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all. How is it possible to configure a host with FreeBSD 3.5 to be ipv6-only host? Or it's not? Please point me to a site where this is addressed.... If this is a stupid question, sorry.... :) Tia... Carla From info@caladan.net Wed Mar 7 08:28:15 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:28:15 -0000 Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103062236.f26Mak525515@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Let me expand on that a little... Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with BGP4+ ? If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, etc and do you have any sample config files. Thanks, Chris On 6 Mar 01, at 22:37, info@caladan.net wrote: > Does anyone have any sample config files for gated on Linux ? > > Thanks, > Chris > > From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Wed Mar 7 09:13:57 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:13:57 -0300 Subject: How to configure host to ipv6 only In-Reply-To: ; from carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:40:26PM +0800 References: Message-ID: <20010307061357.A16451@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Just leaving out the ipv4 configuration isn't enough for you? (Remember to set an IPv6 dns server in /etc/resolv.conf and be ready for seeing very little of the internet unless you want to play with faithd) I've an IPv6 only FBSD 4.2 that i've installed from the net using the 6bone. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:40:26PM +0800, Carla Quiblat wrote: > > Hi all. > > How is it possible to configure a host with FreeBSD 3.5 to be > ipv6-only host? Or it's not? Please point me to a site where this is > addressed.... If this is a stupid question, sorry.... :) > Tia... > > Carla > -- HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From tony@lava.net Wed Mar 7 09:49:14 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:49:14 -1000 (HST) Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 info@caladan.net wrote: > Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with > BGP4+ ? > > If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, > etc and do you have any sample config files. We use zebra bgpd. Here's part of our bgpd.conf file: ! specify your own ASN here router bgp 6435 ! add network statements for any address space allocated to you ipv6 bgp network 3ffe:8160::/28 nlri unicast multicast ! do any aggregation of your downstreams ipv6 bgp aggregate-address 3ffe:8160::/28 summary-only ! for each peer add a neighbor statement ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:d:a::1 remote-as 6175 nlri unicast multicast ! soft-reconfig is usually a good idea ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:d:a::1 soft-reconfiguration inbound ! add any AS path or route filters as necessary depending on your peering ! agreements ... From itojun@iijlab.net Wed Mar 7 11:28:00 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: kre's message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:48:59 +0700. <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> > | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. >Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With >a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't >see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with > 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A >and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. itojun From itojun@iijlab.net Wed Mar 7 11:33:02 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:33:02 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: itojun's message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900. Message-ID: <20010307113302.744EF7E69@starfruit.itojun.org> >> | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. >>Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With >>a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't >>see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with >> 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A >>and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) > I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to > describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. we implemented rather picky code against the above configuration due to NUD handling (we need to know who is "on link" for the p2p link when we initiate p2p). sorry if my memory is wrong, jinmei should have better answers. itojun From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Mar 7 12:05:02 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:05:02 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900." <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <2496.983966702@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900 From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Message-ID: <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> | I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to | describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. Sure. I was just suggesting that you might change the KAME config rules slightly so they allow a (likely fairly common) usage - most likely by simply converting it internally into the more rational setup. I can't see any particular reason for not doing that, and you are likely to avoid lots of "how do I do...?" or "why can't I ...?" type questions in the future. kre From aprogas@mail.com Wed Mar 7 12:42:10 2001 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:42:10 +0100 Subject: How to configure host to ipv6 only In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200103071242.f27CgAn82763@mail.aprogas.cx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Carla Quiblat wrote: > How is it possible to configure a host with FreeBSD 3.5 to be > ipv6-only host? Or it's not? Please point me to a site where this is > addressed.... If this is a stupid question, sorry.... :) As stated in another reply you could simply leave all IPv4 stuff unconfigured. However, if you want to be more sure that the host is not reachable over IPv4, you could explicitily block IPv4 traffic on the host itself or on its router(s). You can also try to remove the ``options INET'' and related options from your kernel configuration file but some applications might break if you do this. - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6piyifuu+THq4fAIRAuU+AKCR8WLB5gLtgYlFOeEQhjaGoTQoZACgtnBQ EQvaUEXKXMCYT1muDr7Fhtg= =IRdL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rzm@icm.edu.pl Wed Mar 7 13:19:36 2001 From: rzm@icm.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:19:36 +0100 Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net>; from info@caladan.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:28:15AM -0000 References: <200103062236.f26Mak525515@tleilax.caladan.net> <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: <20010307141936.L23110@burza.icm.edu.pl> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:28:15AM -0000, info@caladan.net wrote: > Let me expand on that a little... > Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with > BGP4+ ? > If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, > etc and do you have any sample config files. Fairly big router on Zebra: ftp://ftp.6bone.pl/pub/ipv6/conf/ R. -- W iskier krzesaniu ¿ywem/Materia³ to rzecz g³ówna From Robbie_harrell@INS.COM Wed Mar 7 14:32:44 2001 From: Robbie_harrell@INS.COM (Robbie_harrell@INS.COM) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:32:44 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <008301c0a713$791f1030$df59a4d0@C991473C> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490-- From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Wed Mar 7 15:08:59 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:08:59 +0100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:34:19 CST. <20010307083419.A4157@eclipse.fries.net> Message-ID: <200103071508.f27F8xA67495@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: Penned by Francis Dupont on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:20:59PM +0100, we have: | => if you need a DHCPv4 then you can get the ISC one or the WIDE one... | If you need a DHCPv6 then there is nothing (yet) for the last specs. I sincerely hope dhcpv6 does not find its way to the specs. rtsol works, and has none of the security problems associated with dhcp. => I *disagree*. We really need stateless/managed autoconfiguration and rtsol has untractable security problems (*)... DHCPv6 has to work ASAP! Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS *: Dan McDonald tried and failed so the problem is at least very hard with one exception: point-to-point links (PPP can easily setup a nice security environment for you for instance). PPS: if you need more arguments, just look at draft-perkins-aaav6-02.txt (or the 03 I-D if it is out). From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Mar 7 18:22:03 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:22:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: Greetings, On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Robert Elz wrote: > | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. > Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With > a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't > see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with > 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A > and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) > But where the mask is 127, there are only two possible addresses, mine > and his - I'm not sending packets out at all if the address is mine > (unless I like to implement that as a connectivity test and loop > them through the peer) - in the other case, the address is his, and > sending it to him (the peer) is clearly correct, whatever reasoning > gets you to send it that way. > Given that people want to be able to configure things this way > (it suits their sense of aesthetics) and that it should do no > real harm, I'd probably allow it - and then just treat it internally > as if the prefixlen were 128 (but keep the /127 to return when > requested so people don't get confused). Well, it's that way we used to work for IPv4. For reasons of management, we alway use 'numbered' interfaces. For that, we have a a number of 'class C's, we divide into 64 '/30' subnets, and each link is assign one of these pairs. Router loopbacks get a '/32'. So, as I considered the prefixlen the IPv6 equivalent of the IPv4 'netmasks' (I hope I am correct about this), this translates into a single 'network' (3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::/64) I can divide into a -very very large- number of /127 subnets I assign to the interfaces (in this case, a 'gif-interface'). Somebody any idea if this should be done differently in IPv6? OK. There are some other options: - Use the 'link-private' IP-address. - Set up an IP-address on the loopback; and set up static routes for these 'lookbacks' on the routers. (Or actually run OSPF or RIP between the routers). (Hmm. Sounds like a good idea!). Any more ideas or comments? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Mar 7 17:39:18 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:39:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: <14637.983896867@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: Greeting, On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > the above error is generated because of this configuration. > please use either of the following: > ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 128 alias > ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 prefixlen 64 alias > if you specify both of the addresses, use prefixlen = 128; otherwise, > use prefixlen = 64 (or 127 if you really want to). > latest KAME code checks the condition on ioctl time. Euh. May sound like a stupid question, but isn't the 'prefixlen' the IPv6 equivalent for the IPv4 netmask, or am I missing something? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Mar 7 06:48:59 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:48:59 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:38:20 +0900." <19755.983925500@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:38:20 +0900 From: itojun@iijlab.net Message-ID: <19755.983925500@coconut.itojun.org> | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) But where the mask is 127, there are only two possible addresses, mine and his - I'm not sending packets out at all if the address is mine (unless I like to implement that as a connectivity test and loop them through the peer) - in the other case, the address is his, and sending it to him (the peer) is clearly correct, whatever reasoning gets you to send it that way. Given that people want to be able to configure things this way (it suits their sense of aesthetics) and that it should do no real harm, I'd probably allow it - and then just treat it internally as if the prefixlen were 128 (but keep the /127 to return when requested so people don't get confused). I might even want to allow /126 for the same kind of reason, though that starts to get messier. Nothing shorter makes sense though. kre From carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph Wed Mar 7 07:40:26 2001 From: carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph (Carla Quiblat) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:40:26 +0800 (HKT) Subject: How to configure host to ipv6 only In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all. How is it possible to configure a host with FreeBSD 3.5 to be ipv6-only host? Or it's not? Please point me to a site where this is addressed.... If this is a stupid question, sorry.... :) Tia... Carla From info@caladan.net Wed Mar 7 08:28:15 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:28:15 -0000 Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103062236.f26Mak525515@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Let me expand on that a little... Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with BGP4+ ? If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, etc and do you have any sample config files. Thanks, Chris On 6 Mar 01, at 22:37, info@caladan.net wrote: > Does anyone have any sample config files for gated on Linux ? > > Thanks, > Chris > > From tony@lava.net Wed Mar 7 09:49:14 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:49:14 -1000 (HST) Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 info@caladan.net wrote: > Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with > BGP4+ ? > > If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, > etc and do you have any sample config files. We use zebra bgpd. Here's part of our bgpd.conf file: ! specify your own ASN here router bgp 6435 ! add network statements for any address space allocated to you ipv6 bgp network 3ffe:8160::/28 nlri unicast multicast ! do any aggregation of your downstreams ipv6 bgp aggregate-address 3ffe:8160::/28 summary-only ! for each peer add a neighbor statement ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:d:a::1 remote-as 6175 nlri unicast multicast ! soft-reconfig is usually a good idea ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:d:a::1 soft-reconfiguration inbound ! add any AS path or route filters as necessary depending on your peering ! agreements ... From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Wed Mar 7 09:13:57 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:13:57 -0300 Subject: How to configure host to ipv6 only In-Reply-To: ; from carlaq@asti.dost.gov.ph on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:40:26PM +0800 References: Message-ID: <20010307061357.A16451@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Just leaving out the ipv4 configuration isn't enough for you? (Remember to set an IPv6 dns server in /etc/resolv.conf and be ready for seeing very little of the internet unless you want to play with faithd) I've an IPv6 only FBSD 4.2 that i've installed from the net using the 6bone. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:40:26PM +0800, Carla Quiblat wrote: > > Hi all. > > How is it possible to configure a host with FreeBSD 3.5 to be > ipv6-only host? Or it's not? Please point me to a site where this is > addressed.... If this is a stupid question, sorry.... :) > Tia... > > Carla > -- HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From itojun@iijlab.net Wed Mar 7 11:33:02 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:33:02 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: itojun's message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900. Message-ID: <20010307113302.744EF7E69@starfruit.itojun.org> >> | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. >>Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With >>a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't >>see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with >> 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A >>and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) > I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to > describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. we implemented rather picky code against the above configuration due to NUD handling (we need to know who is "on link" for the p2p link when we initiate p2p). sorry if my memory is wrong, jinmei should have better answers. itojun From itojun@iijlab.net Wed Mar 7 11:28:00 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: kre's message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:48:59 +0700. <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> > | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. >Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With >a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't >see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with > 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A >and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. itojun From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Mar 7 12:05:02 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:05:02 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900." <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <2496.983966702@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:00 +0900 From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Message-ID: <20010307112800.87D507E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> | I'm not objecting to assign /127 to ppp link. I'm just trying to | describe how you can configure KAME node to handle /127 prefix right. Sure. I was just suggesting that you might change the KAME config rules slightly so they allow a (likely fairly common) usage - most likely by simply converting it internally into the more rational setup. I can't see any particular reason for not doing that, and you are likely to avoid lots of "how do I do...?" or "why can't I ...?" type questions in the future. kre From rzm@icm.edu.pl Wed Mar 7 13:19:36 2001 From: rzm@icm.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:19:36 +0100 Subject: gated and Linux In-Reply-To: <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net>; from info@caladan.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:28:15AM -0000 References: <200103062236.f26Mak525515@tleilax.caladan.net> <200103070828.f278S4532269@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: <20010307141936.L23110@burza.icm.edu.pl> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:28:15AM -0000, info@caladan.net wrote: > Let me expand on that a little... > Is anyone using Linux as a border router for ipv6 on the 6bone, with > BGP4+ ? > If so, what routing daemon are you using, e.g. gated, mtrd, zebra, > etc and do you have any sample config files. Fairly big router on Zebra: ftp://ftp.6bone.pl/pub/ipv6/conf/ R. -- W iskier krzesaniu ¿ywem/Materia³ to rzecz g³ówna From Robbie_harrell@INS.COM Wed Mar 7 14:32:44 2001 From: Robbie_harrell@INS.COM (Robbie_harrell@INS.COM) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:32:44 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <008301c0a713$791f1030$df59a4d0@C991473C> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0A6E1.2E76E490-- From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Wed Mar 7 15:08:59 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:08:59 +0100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:34:19 CST. <20010307083419.A4157@eclipse.fries.net> Message-ID: <200103071508.f27F8xA67495@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: Penned by Francis Dupont on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:20:59PM +0100, we have: | => if you need a DHCPv4 then you can get the ISC one or the WIDE one... | If you need a DHCPv6 then there is nothing (yet) for the last specs. I sincerely hope dhcpv6 does not find its way to the specs. rtsol works, and has none of the security problems associated with dhcp. => I *disagree*. We really need stateless/managed autoconfiguration and rtsol has untractable security problems (*)... DHCPv6 has to work ASAP! Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS *: Dan McDonald tried and failed so the problem is at least very hard with one exception: point-to-point links (PPP can easily setup a nice security environment for you for instance). PPS: if you need more arguments, just look at draft-perkins-aaav6-02.txt (or the 03 I-D if it is out). From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Mar 7 18:22:03 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:22:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: <1602.983947739@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: Greetings, On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Robert Elz wrote: > | the problem we see in "A B 127" (or 64) is ambiguity. > Actually, in that one particular case (127), there should be none. With > a shorter subnet mask there would be for sure (for anyone who doesn't > see this, imagine 3ffe:9000::8/125 - configured with > 3ffe:9000::9 -> 3ffe:9000::A > and then ask yourself what you do with a packet addressed to 3ffe:9000::B) > But where the mask is 127, there are only two possible addresses, mine > and his - I'm not sending packets out at all if the address is mine > (unless I like to implement that as a connectivity test and loop > them through the peer) - in the other case, the address is his, and > sending it to him (the peer) is clearly correct, whatever reasoning > gets you to send it that way. > Given that people want to be able to configure things this way > (it suits their sense of aesthetics) and that it should do no > real harm, I'd probably allow it - and then just treat it internally > as if the prefixlen were 128 (but keep the /127 to return when > requested so people don't get confused). Well, it's that way we used to work for IPv4. For reasons of management, we alway use 'numbered' interfaces. For that, we have a a number of 'class C's, we divide into 64 '/30' subnets, and each link is assign one of these pairs. Router loopbacks get a '/32'. So, as I considered the prefixlen the IPv6 equivalent of the IPv4 'netmasks' (I hope I am correct about this), this translates into a single 'network' (3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::/64) I can divide into a -very very large- number of /127 subnets I assign to the interfaces (in this case, a 'gif-interface'). Somebody any idea if this should be done differently in IPv6? OK. There are some other options: - Use the 'link-private' IP-address. - Set up an IP-address on the loopback; and set up static routes for these 'lookbacks' on the routers. (Or actually run OSPF or RIP between the routers). (Hmm. Sounds like a good idea!). Any more ideas or comments? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Mar 7 17:39:18 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:39:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: <14637.983896867@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: Greeting, On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > the above error is generated because of this configuration. > please use either of the following: > ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 128 alias > ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 prefixlen 64 alias > if you specify both of the addresses, use prefixlen = 128; otherwise, > use prefixlen = 64 (or 127 if you really want to). > latest KAME code checks the condition on ioctl time. Euh. May sound like a stupid question, but isn't the 'prefixlen' the IPv6 equivalent for the IPv4 netmask, or am I missing something? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 From george+6bone@m5p.com Thu Mar 8 04:39:13 2001 From: george+6bone@m5p.com (george+6bone@m5p.com) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:39:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Receiving ICMP6 Checksum Errors Message-ID: <200103080439.f284dDf77054@southstation.m5p.com> I'm getting sporadic log entries informing me that I'm receiving ICMP6 checksum errors from 3ffe:3200:0001:0006::0001. I used whois to get the name of a responsible person and I sent him email, but there has been no response. Is this happening to anyone else? It's hard to believe that there's anything nefarious going on, but I'm curious, at the least, whose kernel (or application using raw sockets, I guess) is sending out these malformed packets. -- George Mitchell From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 10:16:36 2001 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:16:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001227124016.02cc2ef8@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > 6bone folk, > > I have checked and removed the unresponsive/obsolete links on the 6bone > stats and tools pages per Itojun's kind email below (thanks Itojun). > > I'm always happy and willing to add working links to these (and other) > pages if you send them to me. Perhaps you'd like to get rid of ``inner.net IPv6 Web Pages'' from http://www.6bone.net/6bone_other-sites.html Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? # ping www.6bone.net no answer from www.6bone.net # (from Cambridge UK, cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk) I can ping New York from here: # ping auth01.stealth.net auth01.stealth.net is alive # # traceroute auth01.stealth.net traceroute to auth01.stealth.net (3ffe:80c0:200:2::6), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 cadsa (3ffe:2101:8:0:280:d8ff:fe10:51f3) 1.064 ms 0.835 ms 0.828 ms 2 3ffe:2100:1:15::c13f:5e06 19.027 ms * 23.628 ms 3 3ffe:2100:1:9:c01f:768:ffff:ffe0 454.272 ms * 215.465 ms 4 3ffe:80c0:200:2::1 250.506 ms 267.251 ms 406.122 ms 5 * 3ffe:80c0:200:2::6 274.707 ms * # Cheers, Pete. From hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn Fri Mar 9 04:29:29 2001 From: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn (Haisang Wu) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:29:29 -0800 Subject: Receiving ICMP6 Checksum Errors In-Reply-To: <200103080439.f284dDf77054@southstation.m5p.com> Message-ID: Dear George: I am afraid this is sent out from CERNET IPv6 Testbed in China, but without any wicked intention. We have built tunnels with ETRI in Korea and now we are running BGP4+ between CERNETand ETRI with Zebra, and the errors are spread out from the tunnel end point of ours. Sorry for the problems. I think this is the kernel defection, but could anyone give us some advice on how to deal with this? Just modifying the bgpd.conf or we have to rebuild the kernel? Thanks. Best Haisang ______________________________________________ Haisang Wu CERNET IPv6 Testbed Operation Team Central Mainbuilding Room 307 Tsinghua University Beijing P.R.China Postalcode: 100084 Phone: 62785814-525(O) MP: 13011868154 email: hswu@public.bjnet.edu.cn ______________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of > george+6bone@m5p.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:39 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Receiving ICMP6 Checksum Errors > > > I'm getting sporadic log entries informing me that I'm receiving ICMP6 > checksum errors from 3ffe:3200:0001:0006::0001. I used whois to get the > name of a responsible person and I sent him email, but there has been no > response. Is this happening to anyone else? It's hard to believe that > there's anything nefarious going on, but I'm curious, at the least, > whose kernel (or application using raw sockets, I guess) is sending out > these malformed packets. -- George Mitchell > From broipv6@tqsolutions.demon.co.uk Thu Mar 8 14:11:50 2001 From: broipv6@tqsolutions.demon.co.uk (brougham Baker) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:11:50 -0000 Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup References: Message-ID: <15e201c0a7d9$b929a570$0a00a8c0@wintermute> From: "Peter Bunclark" > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > # ping www.6bone.net > no answer from www.6bone.net > # > (from Cambridge UK, cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk) > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to www.6bone.net is my way of making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a traceroute there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was via the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am I missing something? Brougham From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 14:33:56 2001 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:33:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup In-Reply-To: <15e201c0a7d9$b929a570$0a00a8c0@wintermute> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, brougham Baker wrote: > From: "Peter Bunclark" > > > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? ... > > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to www.6bone.net is my way of > making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a traceroute > there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was via > the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). > > Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am I > missing something? Perhaps I've missed your point, but your response to my problem could be quite useful. I can reach many external 6BONE sites, 6bone.ipv6.uni-muenster.de for example, but not all, certainly not www.6bone.net. You say you can reach it, can you reach muenster? or even me at (say) cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk ? > > Brougham > Cheers, Pete. From ipng@uni-muenster.de Thu Mar 8 15:03:25 2001 From: ipng@uni-muenster.de (JOIN Project Team) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:03:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 08-Mar-2001 Peter Bunclark wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, brougham Baker wrote: > >> From: "Peter Bunclark" >> >> > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > ... >> >> It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to www.6bone.net is my way of >> making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a >> traceroute >> there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was >> via >> the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). >> >> Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am >> I >> missing something? > Perhaps I've missed your point, but your response to my problem could be > quite useful. I can reach many external 6BONE sites, > 6bone.ipv6.uni-muenster.de for example, but not all, certainly not > www.6bone.net. You say you can reach it, can you reach muenster? or even > me at (say) cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk ? Hi Peter, Sitting in Muenster I can reach both, www.6bone.net and cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk, so your packets vanish on another route. Nevertheless the connection to your site is very poor, I get about 50% packet loss. The route to 6bone.net is much better. Christian PS: You can check this yourself on JOINs 'looking glass' http://www.join.uni-muenster.de/lab/testtools-e.html . Maybe it helps you to find the black hole. From stuart.prevost@bt.com Thu Mar 8 15:50:52 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:52 -0000 Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EFD@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> >From BT I can reach the www.6bone.net with no problems. However Pete your site is very hard to reach. 2 in 5 packets getting through and traceroute goes off via the netherlands!! Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Bunclark [mailto:psb@ast.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:34 PM > To: 6BONE List > Subject: Re: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > > > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, brougham Baker wrote: > > > From: "Peter Bunclark" > > > > > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > ... > > > > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to www.6bone.net is my way of > making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a traceroute > there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was via > the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). > > Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am I > missing something? Perhaps I've missed your point, but your response to my problem could be quite useful. I can reach many external 6BONE sites, 6bone.ipv6.uni-muenster.de for example, but not all, certainly not www.6bone.net. You say you can reach it, can you reach muenster? or even me at (say) cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk ? > > Brougham > Cheers, Pete. From Todd Whipple" <15e201c0a7d9$b929a570$0a00a8c0@wintermute> Message-ID: <002001c0a7ee$c278b700$160c10ac@zama.net> We have a couple of network utilities on our website that you can use to test your sites as well as others. Go to www.zamanetworks.com and go to the network utilities link. You will be able to test your link from our v6 connection as well as your DNS records. Todd Whipple Zama Networks, Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "brougham Baker" To: "Peter Bunclark" Cc: "6BONE List" <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > From: "Peter Bunclark" > > > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > > # ping www.6bone.net > > no answer from www.6bone.net > > # > > (from Cambridge UK, cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk) > > > > > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to www.6bone.net is my way of > making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a traceroute > there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was via > the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). > > Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am I > missing something? > > Brougham > > > From warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU Thu Mar 8 19:20:01 2001 From: warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Warren Matthews) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:20:01 -0800 Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup References: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413EFD@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: <007801c0a804$c5d8f700$8cd881c6@test98900> Looking at our webpage of historical ping6 data ( http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/pingtable.pl?dataset=ipv6 ) I see the packet loss between SLAC and Cambridge deteriorated from a few percent to up to 30% on Tuesday March 6, and there have been round trip times up to 500ms whereas in February the average was around 210ms. I also note no other end-node exhibits a similar pattern (although my sample is very small), but a previous problem between SLAC and CRC was resolved around that time. Someone in Europe (I don't recall who) was advertising CRCs AS back to ESnet (SLACs provider). Probably a co-incidence. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: RE: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > From BT I can reach the www.6bone.net with no problems. However Pete your > site is very hard to reach. > > 2 in 5 packets getting through and traceroute goes off via the netherlands!! > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Bunclark [mailto:psb@ast.cam.ac.uk] > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:34 PM > > To: 6BONE List > > Subject: Re: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, brougham Baker wrote: > > > > > From: "Peter Bunclark" > > > > > > > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > > ... > > > > > > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to > www.6bone.net is my way of > > making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a > traceroute > > there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was > via > > the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). > > > > Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or am > I > > missing something? > Perhaps I've missed your point, but your response to my problem could be > quite useful. I can reach many external 6BONE sites, > 6bone.ipv6.uni-muenster.de for example, but not all, certainly not > www.6bone.net. You say you can reach it, can you reach muenster? or even > me at (say) cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk ? > > > > Brougham > > > Cheers, > Pete. > From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Fri Mar 9 00:03:18 2001 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:03:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup In-Reply-To: <007801c0a804$c5d8f700$8cd881c6@test98900> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Warren Matthews wrote: > I see the packet loss between SLAC and Cambridge deteriorated from a few > percent to up to 30% on Tuesday March 6, and there have been round trip > times up to 500ms whereas in February the average was around 210ms. > > I also note no other end-node exhibits a similar pattern (although my sample > is very small), but a previous problem between SLAC and CRC was resolved > around that time. Someone in Europe (I don't recall who) was advertising > CRCs AS back to ESnet (SLACs provider). Probably a co-incidence. Hmmmm....that may have been Berkom, via their v6 upstream (can't recall which that was). We're still experiencing something odd with my route (traceroute 2001:410:401:b::2 to find out) though, and I'm now trying to track it down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:50 AM > Subject: RE: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > > > > From BT I can reach the www.6bone.net with no problems. However Pete your > > site is very hard to reach. > > > > 2 in 5 packets getting through and traceroute goes off via the > netherlands!! > > > > Stuart > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Peter Bunclark [mailto:psb@ast.cam.ac.uk] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:34 PM > > > To: 6BONE List > > > Subject: Re: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, brougham Baker wrote: > > > > > > > From: "Peter Bunclark" > > > > > > > > > Also, do you know why www.6bone.net not reachable on the 6BONE? > > > ... > > > > > > > > It certainly was working, a quick traceroute to > > www.6bone.net is my way of > > > making sure that my stack is up and my tunnel is working. I ran a > > traceroute > > > there this morning within 30 minutes of you and it was working. This was > > via > > > the BT tunnel (thanks Steve). > > > > > > Is it normal to CC: everyone all the time- it just seems rude to me, or > am > > I > > > missing something? > > Perhaps I've missed your point, but your response to my problem could be > > quite useful. I can reach many external 6BONE sites, > > 6bone.ipv6.uni-muenster.de for example, but not all, certainly not > > www.6bone.net. You say you can reach it, can you reach muenster? or even > > me at (say) cass18.ast.ipv6.cam.ac.uk ? > > > > > > Brougham > > > > > Cheers, > > Pete. > > > wfms From itojun@iijlab.net Fri Mar 9 07:50:25 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:50:25 +0900 Subject: securing 6bone tunnels Message-ID: <20010309075025.574477E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> as I have been worried, there's traffic injection tools (attack tool) for 6bone endpoints: http://www.pkcrew.org/tools.html. bad guys can inject fabricated IPv6 traffic without even paticipating to 6bone, if he knows a pair of 6bone tunnel endpoint address, and it will be harder to track the bad guy down as tunnel decapsulation will lose information on the outer header fields. to avoid attacks, I would like to encourage 6bone tunnel operators to establish IPv4 transport-mode AH (or IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel mode AH) relationship with your peer. how to do this is implementation dependent. for KAME-based platforms, you'd need to get the latest KAME tree from ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/snap/ (*BSD releases do not have enough policy checking code). itojun From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 08:27:47 2001 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:27:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, William F. Maton wrote: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Warren Matthews wrote: > > > I see the packet loss between SLAC and Cambridge deteriorated from a few > > percent to up to 30% on Tuesday March 6, and there have been round trip > > times up to 500ms whereas in February the average was around 210ms. > > > > I also note no other end-node exhibits a similar pattern (although my sample > > is very small), but a previous problem between SLAC and CRC was resolved > > around that time. Someone in Europe (I don't recall who) was advertising > > CRCs AS back to ESnet (SLACs provider). Probably a co-incidence. > > Hmmmm....that may have been Berkom, via their v6 upstream (can't recall > which that was). We're still experiencing something odd with my route > (traceroute 2001:410:401:b::2 to find out) though, and I'm now trying to > track it down. > Thanks to everyone for the various replies regarding this problem. This morning, magically, things seem more or less back to normal. Has someone out there fixed something in the last 14 hours? (Certainly wasn't a local change!) Cheers, Pete. > traceroute www.6bone.net traceroute to 6bone.net (3ffe:b00:c18:1::10), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 cadsa (3ffe:2101:8:0:280:d8ff:fe10:51f3) 0.956 ms 0.709 ms 0.720 ms 2 3ffe:2100:1:15::c13f:5e06 6.649 ms * 6.648 ms 3 3ffe:1100:0:1c01::1 16.551 ms * 15.872 ms 4 pao-6r1-if.6r1.doc.london.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::1) 178.257 ms * 177.598 ms 5 3ffe:401:0:1::20:2 239.310 ms 240.985 ms 238.853 ms 6 viagenie.ipv6.wilbury.sk (3ffe:80e1:8000::d) 367.617 ms 364.657 ms 375.976 ms 7 www.6bone.net (3ffe:b00:c18:1::10) 380.232 ms 378.312 ms 376.369 ms From pekkas@netcore.fi Mon Mar 5 17:50:19 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:50:19 +0200 (EET) Subject: LIST: Duplicates of Cc: messages Message-ID: Hello all, Is there something _really_ wrong with the list? If someone replies on the list and Cc:'s me, I get a _lot_ of duplicate mails. These seem to be drifting at the rate of a couple a day. Dozens of other lists I'm subscribed to are fine. For example: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:50:18 +0530 (IST) From: Hareesh V H To: Pekka Savola Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Designing IPv6 network guidelines? [received _13_ copies so far!] Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:33:06 -0300 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar To: Pekka Savola Cc: itojun@iijlab.net, 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Designing IPv6 network guidelines? [9!] Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:03:37 +0700 (JAVT) From: R. Flidersan To: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Cc: Pekka Savola , itojun@iijlab.net, 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: IPv6 security [6] etc. WTF is going on here? _Don't_ Cc: me :-/ -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From pete@research.netsol.com Fri Mar 2 19:03:59 2001 From: pete@research.netsol.com (Pete Toscano) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:03:59 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302140359.A4872@tesla.admin.cto.netsol.com> --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at http://www.kernel.org. HTH, pete On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? >=20 > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > Flidersan >=20 >=20 --=20 Pete Toscano pete@research.netsol.com 703.948.3364 GPG fingerprint: D8F5 A087 9A4C 56BB 8F78 B29C 1FF0 1BA7 9008 2736 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6n+6fH/Abp5AIJzYRAj7oAJ9v55Uaw53rqRiFt8VZWkovk3o/6wCaAs2w Tm6VD4n2uv2uA8xdXkern50= =RHeg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Tue Mar 6 16:25:16 2001 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:25:16 +0700 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100." Message-ID: <7830.983895916@brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) From: Kristoff Bonne Message-ID: | What is 'error nr. 17'? EEXIST - that's telling you the route you're trying to add is already in the routing table. What does your routing table look like, after you boot and have set up the tunnel, before and after you start the routing processes? kre From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Tue Mar 6 15:10:16 2001 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem Message-ID: Greetings, I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use as BGP4+ peering mesh. But, I get two 'add' things: - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost to: gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x12 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 What is 'error nr. 17'? Cheerio! Kr. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7DB.62C61900-- From jim@thehousleys.net Fri Mar 9 16:27:34 2001 From: jim@thehousleys.net (James Housley) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:27:34 -0500 Subject: securing 6bone tunnels References: <20010309075025.574477E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <3AA90476.CAC39433@thehousleys.net> Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > <> > to avoid attacks, I would like to encourage 6bone tunnel operators > to establish IPv4 transport-mode AH (or IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel > mode AH) relationship with your peer. how to do this is implementation > dependent. for KAME-based platforms, you'd need to get the latest > KAME tree from ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/snap/ (*BSD releases > do not have enough policy checking code). > What is the oldest SNAP that has the required policy checking? Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." -- -Andrew Jackson From itojun@iijlab.net Fri Mar 9 16:29:39 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:29:39 +0900 Subject: securing 6bone tunnels In-Reply-To: jim's message of Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:27:34 EST. <3AA90476.CAC39433@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: <4669.984155379@coconut.itojun.org> >> to avoid attacks, I would like to encourage 6bone tunnel operators >> to establish IPv4 transport-mode AH (or IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel >> mode AH) relationship with your peer. how to do this is implementation >> dependent. for KAME-based platforms, you'd need to get the latest >> KAME tree from ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/snap/ (*BSD releases >> do not have enough policy checking code). >What is the oldest SNAP that has the required policy checking? you need a KAME SNAP kit after mar 1 2001 to enforce inbound policy checking. itojun From gcampos@campus.cem.itesm.mx Fri Mar 9 17:17:13 2001 From: gcampos@campus.cem.itesm.mx (M. en C. 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Gabriela Campos end:vcard --------------356A04E97A2AE0B4B11A4066-- From mbradbury@aperian.com Sat Mar 10 03:29:22 2001 From: mbradbury@aperian.com (Matt Bradbury) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:29:22 -0600 Subject: Multi-homing Message-ID: Hello everyone, I've been looking around for some clear answers on how multi-homing is going to be done in the IPv6 world for the lowly enterprises and smaller ISP's of the world that can't be a part of the DFZ. Nothing that I have read gives me any faith in the people that are currently developing the standards. As a company, if we did not have the ability to multi-home with complete redundancy, we would not be able to operate on a day to day basis. Maybe I've missed some more recent discussions on the matter, but most of what I find is from 97-98 timeframe. If someone could point me to some references that do take these concerns into account I would greatly appreciate it. As a side note to the Aggregation is God philosophy. If organizations are given large blocks to start with, I see organizations only having to announce 1 prefix, as opposed to current situations where organizations announce many smaller blocks. They could announce these routes out all of their peers and they would add to routing tables, but with router manufactures now touting 1-2 million route storage in their devices, I'm not sure just how relevant these problems are. From fink@es.net Sat Mar 10 15:30:49 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:30:49 -0800 Subject: Multi-homing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010310072932.00a87030@imap2.es.net> Matt, Please join the new multi6 wg where these issues are explicitly being addressed. Thanks, Bob === At 09:29 PM 3/9/2001 -0600, Matt Bradbury wrote: >Hello everyone, >I've been looking around for some clear answers on how multi-homing is going >to be done in the IPv6 world for the lowly enterprises and smaller ISP's of >the world that can't be a part of the DFZ. > >Nothing that I have read gives me any faith in the people that are currently >developing the standards. As a company, if we did not have the ability to >multi-home with complete redundancy, we would not be able to operate on a >day to day basis. > >Maybe I've missed some more recent discussions on the matter, but most of >what I find is from 97-98 timeframe. If someone could point me to some >references that do take these concerns into account I would greatly >appreciate it. > >As a side note to the Aggregation is God philosophy. If organizations are >given large blocks to start with, I see organizations only having to >announce 1 prefix, as opposed to current situations where organizations >announce many smaller blocks. They could announce these routes out all of >their peers and they would add to routing tables, but with router >manufactures now touting 1-2 million route storage in their devices, I'm not >sure just how relevant these problems are. From ytti@teliafi.net Mon Mar 5 13:16:54 2001 From: ytti@teliafi.net (Saku Ytti) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:16:54 +0200 Subject: IPv6 BGP-peerings Message-ID: <20010305151654.A25373@mail.teliafi.net> Is there some list for BGP-relations, filters and such? Or is this list correct for that topic also? I'd want to reach active members, willing to peer with us. (AS6793) -- ytti From tcp6@mail.be Mon Mar 5 12:32:40 2001 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:32:40 -0800 Subject: IPv6 security Message-ID: <200103051232.EAA25918@mail3.bigmailbox.com> Hello there, I think you have a virus as an attachment on every one of your E-mails Please scan your computer. thanks. the suspected virus= Emanuel.exe be carefull. ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From tony@lava.net Mon Mar 5 09:23:30 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -1000 (HST) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Pekka Savola wrote: > [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look > like somewhere else too ] You can try our Zebra Looking Glass at: http://www.ipv6.lava.net/cgi-bin/lg.pl From galt@inconnu.isu.edu Fri Mar 2 19:48:25 2001 From: galt@inconnu.isu.edu (John Galt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:48:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ftp.kernel.org I think the USAGI kernel has some good modifications you might want to look at too (to keep this thread remotely on-topic :) That'd be at ftp.linux-ipv6.org On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: >Hello Guys? > >Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for >TCP/IP in Linux? > >Thanks in advance. > >Flidersan > > -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu. that's who! From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 09:47:25 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: Hello all, It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only saw 2002::/16). Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. Or is there reasons why this is not done? BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From kaos@ocs.com.au Sun Mar 11 09:58:21 2001 From: kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:58:21 +1100 Subject: Mail loopback on ipv6 Message-ID: <16384.984304701@ocs3.ocs-net> Another mail loopback on ipv6. This time rchiang@condor.tnjc.edu.tw or rchiang@houston.rr.com is the offending user. ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: <6bone-owner@ISI.EDU> Received: (qmail 14351 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 09:28:01 -0000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (128.9.160.160) by mail.ocs.com.au with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 09:28:01 -0000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15517 for 6bone-outgoing; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15436 for <6bone@zephyr.isi.edu>; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.houston.rr.com ([24.93.35.225]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2B3Lcq22897 for <6bone@isi.edu>; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by mail.houston.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:12:02 -0600 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.211]) by mail.houston.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:06:47 -0600 Received: from condor.tnit.edu.tw (condor.tnit.edu.tw [140.129.142.29]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f25C6gL10188 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:06:43 -0600 Received: from coocoo.tnit.edu.tw (root@coocoo.tnit.edu.tw [140.129.142.19]) by condor.tnit.edu.tw (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f25CMKc06767 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:22:20 +0800 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by coocoo.tnit.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA12808 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:11:09 +0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19860 for 6bone-outgoing; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19852 for <6bone@zephyr.isi.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from m018.com ([210.112.11.138]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f255IXq27332 for <6bone@isi.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by m018.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:11:54 +0900 Received: from mail pickup service by m018.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:50:01 +0900 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by m018.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:31:36 +0900 Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17008 for 6bone-outgoing; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16982 for <6bone@zephyr.isi.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f249lWq26339 for <6bone@isi.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f249lQL32521 for <6bone@isi.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hello all, It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only saw 2002::/16). Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. Or is there reasons why this is not done? BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? - -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords ------- End of Forwarded Message From Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int Mon Mar 5 10:03:41 2001 From: Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int (Aad van der Zanden) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:03:41 +0100 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <001501c0a512$ba7d1d90$fb466fa6@lzy> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010305110319.00cf8290@lisa.nc3a.nato.int> Could you please stop sending me the emanuel virus please!!! Aad At 05:16 PM 3/4/01 -0800, Lzy wrote: >I'm guessing that you mean the TCP/IP stack. You can get that from the >kernel source code. Just go to any one of the many Linux kernel >mirrors. Since you're from ID, I suggest you start with: >ftp://ftp.id.kernel.org. If that doesn't work, find a mirror at >http://www.kernel.org. > >HTH, >pete > >On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > > > Hello Guys? > > > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > > TCP/IP in Linux? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Flidersan > > > > > >-- >Pete Toscano pete@research.netsol.com 703.948.3364 >GPG fingerprint: D8F5 A087 9A4C 56BB 8F78 B29C 1FF0 1BA7 9008 2736 =================================================================== / Aad van der Zanden. | POSTAL ADDRESS: / Communications Systems Division | / NATO C3 Agency | NATO C3 Agency / Email : Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int | P.O. BOX 174 / Phone : +31 (0)70 3142440 | 2501 CD The Hague / Fax : +31 (0)70 3142176 | The Netherlands / ================================================================= / PGP FP: 57CA 5E23 E6EB 1375 3D2A 6FE0 B9B0 ED22 44A1 D279 =================================================================== From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Fri Mar 2 16:49:57 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:49:57 -0300 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302134956.A3352@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? http://www.linux-ipv6.org/ > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From info@caladan.net Sat Mar 3 18:21:47 2001 From: info@caladan.net (info@caladan.net) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:21:47 -0000 Subject: pTLA rules for application Message-ID: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> I have a question regarding the guidelines for applying for a pTLA for the 6bone... RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate connection point into the 6Bone." Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route further up is available? In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the backbone. Seems like a chicken and egg situation? Perhaps someone could clarify this for me. Thanks, Chris From gmaxwell@martin.fl.us Fri Mar 2 17:57:35 2001 From: gmaxwell@martin.fl.us (Greg Maxwell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:57:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? > > Thanks in advance. I'd be glad to sell you the complete Linux kernel and source (including TCP/IP) with license on CD for $2234.00 (USD) + shipping. :) Of course, you might want to try ftp.kernel.org, unless you are looking for more then the body of your message implied. :) From itojun@iijlab.net Sun Mar 4 11:14:42 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:14:42 +0900 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: pekkas's message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only >saw 2002::/16). > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to announce that route. >Or is there reasons why this is not done? do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? itojun From stuart.prevost@bt.com Mon Mar 5 13:24:37 2001 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:24:37 -0000 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413ED4@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> 6to4.ipv6.bt.com is operational and I am announcing 2002::/16 If you are having trouble using this then please let me know. Regards, Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:54 AM > To: 6bone > Subject: Re: 6to4 prefix announcements? > > > I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic > between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. > > Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or > 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, > from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at > all or have > they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? > > [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP > announcements look > like somewhere else too ] > > This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > > > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? > > Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in > aggregates always > bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you > could get > rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably > almost always > be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. > > This would in part transfer some routing table expansion > problems of IPv4 > to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. > > -- > Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, > Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" > Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords > From tony@lava.net Sat Mar 3 20:47:19 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:47:19 -1000 (HST) Subject: pTLA rules for application In-Reply-To: <200103031821.f23ILHj09410@tleilax.caladan.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 info@caladan.net wrote: > RFC2772 states that the applicant must have minimum 3 months: > > "Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone." > > Surely this breaks one of the golden rules of BGP? i.e. that you > shouldn't advertise a more specific route when a less specific route > further up is available? I don't think this is a golden rule of BGP nor of any routing protocol. It might be a peering agreement rule but even so your upstreams can always apply filters if they don't want to hear (or propagate) your more specific advertisements. > In fact BGP is only really used if you're multi- homed and you can't > be multi-homed on the 6bone unless you're already part of the > backbone. > > Seems like a chicken and egg situation? No not really. Someone delegates a pNLA or pSLA to you out of their address space initially. You peer with them. They aggregate your announcement into theirs. You get the rest of your 6Bone house in order (meet other RFC 2772 requirements) and wait 3 months. Then apply for your own pTLA. From mhw@wittsend.com Fri Mar 2 17:13:33 2001 From: mhw@wittsend.com (Michael H. Warfield) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:13:33 -0500 Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: ; from flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700 References: <20010228023305.A648@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: <20010302121333.A2452@alcove.wittsend.com> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:03:37PM +0700, R. Flidersan wrote: > Hello Guys? > Could you tell me the place or company I can get a source code for > TCP/IP in Linux? Have you tried looking on any of the source CD's that come with any of the distributions? Just get the kernel source tarball from kernel.org and you'll find it in there. The 2.4.2 sources would be this: ftp://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz or http://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.2.tar.gz Replace the ?? with a country code for a near-by mirror. Check out www.kernel.org for more information. You'll find a list of mirror sites here: http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/ and there is at least one there in "id". > Thanks in advance. > Flidersan Mike -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Sun Mar 4 15:32:39 2001 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:32:39 +0100 Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:25 +0200. Message-ID: <200103041532.f24FWdA38291@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. => Brian Carpenter should answer (:-)... BTW: I couldn't find any looking glasses for 6bone backbone routers. Is there any of these available? => I have an experimental looking glass for BGP4+ with IPv6. It needs to be secured and put on a backbone router (it should be soon because this is the purpose). The result is: Router: Aricie Command: show bgp ipv6 2002::/16 BGP routing table entry for 2002::/16, version 13836923 Paths: (1 available, best #1) Flag: 0x208 Not advertised to any peer 1938 2200 2611 5511 4697 1251 109 2001:660:281:1::1 (inaccessible) from 2001:660:282:1:200:CFF:FE3F:1D17 (192.108.119.137) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best The router is in the RENATER sub**n TLA. The 2002::/16 gateway seems to be ipv6-router.cisco.com. Francis.Dupont From pekkas@netcore.fi Sun Mar 4 11:54:23 2001 From: pekkas@netcore.fi (Pekka Savola) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:54:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: 6to4 prefix announcements? In-Reply-To: <20010304111442.2F20F7E0E@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >It'd appear that 6to4 prefixes aren't announced on 6bone too much (I only > >saw 2002::/16). > > > >Due to this, ping6 within EU<->EU takes 800 ms instead of 300 ms because > >it must go through ipv6-router.cisco.com. > > > >I think this could be optimized by announcing prefixes, e.g. those > >calculated from IPv4 addresses where IPv6 is being tested and 6to4 used. > > see RFC3056, section 5.10. you can configure static routes to > 2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 if you want to optimize it, but be sure not to > announce that route. Ah. A new RFC. :-) >From 5.10, I gather: EGP (i.e., BGP) routing will include advertisements for the 2002::/16 prefix from relay routers into the native IPv6 domain, whose scope is limited by routing policy. This is the only non-native IPv6 prefix advertised by BGP. I'm rather rather depressed at the fact that within for the traffic between two sites within EU, the chosen relay router is in the U.S. Aren't the others (e.g. 6to4.ipv6.bt.com or 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de, from http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/) announcing these at all or have they been restricted by policy to a smaller domain? [ I've yet to see a 6bone looking glass to see how BGP announcements look like somewhere else too ] This makes the whole 6to4 routing act bad. > >Or is there reasons why this is not done? > > do you want to see 2^32 routes announced to the 6bone? Definitely not, but I was thinking of announing them in aggregates always bigger than traditional B-class.. With about 2^8 or 2^10 you could get rather good connectivity already -- traffic would probably almost always be restricted to the same continent, or a part of the continent. This would in part transfer some routing table expansion problems of IPv4 to IPv6, which is probably the reason it's deprecated. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords From fink@es.net Sun Mar 11 19:18:26 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:18:26 -0800 Subject: pTLA request for Cable & Wireless Europe - ISDNET Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010311111456.02534418@imap2.es.net> 6bone Folk, ISDNET (Cable & Wireless Europe) has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review period for this will close 26 March 2001. Please send any comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob ============================================ >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:39:29 +0100 >From: Antoine Versini >Reply-To: aversini@isdnet.net >Organization: Cable & Wireless Europe >To: fink@es.net, ipv6@ipv6.isdnet.net >Subject: Cable & Wirless isdnet is asking for a pTLA > >Dear Sir, > >My name is Antoine Versini and I am working for the european subsidiary >of the Cable & Wireless group. Since January 1999, we have been >operating an ipv6-site, known as ISDNET in the 6bone registry. This >experimentation now reaches the point where we need to become an >official pTLA on the 6bone to continue it. That is the object of this >mail: a pTLA request from Cable & Wireless isdnet. > >Here is how we comply with the guidelines defined in chapter 7 of the >RFC 2772. > > >1. Cable & Wirless isdnet (ISDNET in the registry) operates on the 6bone >for more than 3 mounths. We are present since January 1999, when we >obtained a tunnel from the NRL (now DEFENSENET) and the original >ipv6-site objet was created. > >1a. The registry has the following records: > - An ipv6-site object (ISDNET) with three contacts, our tunnels and >available applications, > - person objects for each contact plus a role object gathering all >of the contact under a single mailbox, > - inet6num objects for each of the prefixes that have been allocated >to ISDNET, > - a password-protected maintainer object that maintains all of the >above objects. > http://www.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk/ipv6/6Bone/Whois/ISDNET.html shows no >errors. All of our peers have reverse records to us. > >1b. We maintain BGP4+ sessions with our peers under the AS5594 origin. >The core router is a Cisco System device running the last IPv6 beta >version of the IOS. We are not readvertising what we learn from our peer >in order not the break the RFC 2772 rules, thus 6bone default free zone >aggregation. Our network do not have default IPv6 route. > IPv4 Loopback: 6bone.isdnet.net (195.154.1.6) > IPv6 Loopback: lo0.6bone-mtp-1.ipv6.isdnet.net (3ffe:8100:102::1) > >1c. All devices and their IPv6 enabled interfaces have an AAAA entry in >the ipv6.isdnet.net zone and a PTR entry in the pTLA-delegated prefixes >delegated-reverse zones. > >1d. We maintain an IPv6-only accessible web site at >http://www.ipv6.isdnet.net/ where we provide network tools web interface >(ping6 and traceroute6) and a looking-glass with BGP4+ queries facility >and a full BGP4+ status crated using the AS-Path-Three tool from the >CSELT. This web site is also IPv6 pingable. > >2. Cable & Wireless isdnet has built an international IP dedicated >backbone in the past two years. Our STM-16/OC-48 european loop has >connections to the following IX : > - PARIX, SFINX and MAE-P (paris), > - DE-CIX and MAE-FFT (Frankfurt), > - BNIX (Brussels), > - CIXP (Geneva), > - LINX (London), > - AMSIX (Amsterdam). > We also have POPs in Italy, Spain and Sweden. We run a total of more >than 200 peerings and we do have peerings with most of the european >pTLAs. We also have the opportunity to install IPv6 dedicated peering >routers in IPv6 IXes like AMS-IX or the BNIX6. Our MPLS network would >eventualy natively transport IPv6 over dedicated Label Switched Pathes >beetween IPv6 IXes. > Lastly, we also run a trans-atlantic network with more than 850Mbps >of aggregated bandwidth (DS3s and STM-1/OC-3s circuits and one >STM-4/OC-12 circuit). This trans-oceanic loop connects us to other big >backbones in the World (UUnet, Abovenet, Level3, Sprint...) and to >peering points like MAE-EAST. > >2a. Our IPv6 team is constitued by three persons, >2b. all of them are reachable using a single mailbox: >ipv6@ipv6.isdnet.net. > >3. Cable & Wireless is providing wholesale dial-up and broadband >services to the most important french ISPs and to european ISPs. All of >those ISPs are customers of us either for our access network (Remote >Access Servers and Broadband Access Servers in more than 50 points of >presence) or for IP transit to the Internet. We also have interactions >with transit customers ISPs that would eventually provide free IPv6 >access to the 6bone if we have the opportunity to become a pTLA. We also >operate hosting datacenters in Europe where 6bone access can be given >through their hosting LANs. > >4. Our team is very IPv6 enthousiast and we believe in the future of the >IPv6 protocol-suite. We totaly abide with all the rules and policies >established by the 6bone Operation Group, and even hope to be an active >part of it. > >The last point I wanted to say is that our team has a total control of >all the servers (Xavier and Emile) and all the routers of the network >(myself) as we are part of the designers of the unix platforms and of >the IP backbone of Cable & Wireless europe. > >We really hope that our submission will interrest you :-) > >Thank you for your king attention, >Best regards from France, >Antoine. > >-- >Antoine Versini - aversini@isdnet.net / antoine.versini@cw.com >Cable & Wireless Europe Global Network Operations: Network Build >Cable & Wireless France: Backbone deployement project manager From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Tue Mar 6 18:29:59 2001 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:59 +0100 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306192959.B3337@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. You could try snap-users@kame.net (The Kame-stack is what is integrated in OpenBSD) as alternative. I use NetBSD which also integrated the Kame IPv6 stack, but things may be different between the different BSDs, so I may be wrong below. > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe the only prefixlengths Kame accepts for a gif tunnel are 64 and 128. BTW, for a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel there's not requiremetn to assign global v6 addresses to the tunnel endpoints. However, the error-msg you got more likely points to some kind of routing problem. Check netstat -rn the right protocol is send over the right interface. There should be no IPv4 routeing entry in your routing table pointing over your gif interface. > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 This is either a prefixlen problem (as I mentioned above) or the machine on the other side of the tunnel is misconfigured (is the other side also a BSD machine?). However, I think these messages are mostly harmless and should not prevent you from getting traffic through your tunnel. Feico. From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Tue Mar 6 16:40:34 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:40:34 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Guys? Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP server and some test software. Thanks in advance. Flidersan From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Tue Mar 6 17:17:26 2001 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0300 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010306141726.A14381@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! I'd the same problem with FBSD (they both use KAME, so there is the same thing) Use prefixlen 64 or 128. 127 is invalid prefixlen (and new KAME versions will not let you set it) HoraPe On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > Greetings, > > I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD > problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd > newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > > I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use > as BGP4+ peering mesh. > > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 > > > - In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: > Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a > neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 > > What is 'error nr. 17'? > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN > kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Faxbox : +32 2 2435122 > -- HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From tony@lava.net Tue Mar 6 17:27:06 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > But, I get two 'add' things: > - When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: > ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family > > But, the config does work and a 'ifconfig' does show what it is suppost > to: > gif1: flags=8011 mtu 1280 > physical address inet 195.13.8.131 --> 195.13.17.26 > inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe3f:b495%gif1 -> :: prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x12 > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 In /etc/sysctl.conf try setting net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 and/or doing a 'rtadvd gif1'. From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Tue Mar 6 21:51:18 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:51:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: from "R. Flidersan" at Mar 06, 2001 11:40:34 PM Message-ID: <200103062151.f26LpJV03923@bfib.ipng.nl> > Hello Guys? > > Could you tell me about DHCP,I need to get the source code for a DCHP > server and some > test software. ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/dhcp/ has the leading software program. You can google for 'dhclient' also, which is a client-side program from another author - many people use this as client. regards, Pim -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From itojun@iijlab.net Tue Mar 6 16:41:07 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:41:07 +0900 Subject: OpenBSD IPv6 problem In-Reply-To: kristoff.bonne's message of Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:16 +0100. Message-ID: <14637.983896867@coconut.itojun.org> >I know this is not the most-correct place to ask things about IPv6 OpenBSD >problems, but I do not get any reply when I post in the openbsd >newsgroups; nor in the IPv6 OpenBSD mailing-list. > >I have a number of PCs running OpenBSD 2.8 and Zebra; I would like to use >as BGP4+ peering mesh. > >But, I get two 'add' things: >- When I configure a IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel, I always get a error-message: >ifconfig: SIOCDIFADDR: Address family not supported by protocol family i guess this is due to some issue in /sbin/ifconfig. please ignore it for now. >- In the log-file, I keep on getting the folling message: >Mar 6 15:59:46 bgppai /bsd: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a >neighbor(3ffe:80b0:1001:00ff::0002), errno=17 >What is 'error nr. 17'? > inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 -> 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 127 the above error is generated because of this configuration. please use either of the following: ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::2 prefixlen 128 alias ifconfig gif1 inet6 3ffe:80b0:1001:ff::3 prefixlen 64 alias if you specify both of the addresses, use prefixlen = 128; otherwise, use prefixlen = 64 (or 127 if you really want to). latest KAME code checks the condition on ioctl time. itojun From Aristides.Staikos@mail1.monmouth.army.mil Tue Mar 13 19:33:14 2001 From: Aristides.Staikos@mail1.monmouth.army.mil (Staikos, Aristides CECOM RDEC STCD) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:33:14 -0500 Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 & NetBSD 1.5 issue Message-ID: I am running both OSs on and IPv6 network and I have noticed that in both OSs, the ethernet interface drops its global IPv6 address and then gets it back (within approximately 30 sec.). Has anyone else seen this happening? Does not happed on FreeBSD 4.0 system. Aristides Staikos Phone: (732)427-4134, DSN: 987-4134 Fax: (732)427-2564 AMSEL-RD-ST-WL-PR Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703 email:Staikos@mail1.monmouth.army.mil From tony@lava.net Wed Mar 14 23:30:29 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:30:29 -1000 (HST) Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? Message-ID: I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. From tme@21rst-century.com Thu Mar 15 15:10:38 2001 From: tme@21rst-century.com (Marshall Eubanks) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:10:38 -0500 Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? References: Message-ID: <3AB0DB6E.D2114B73@21rst-century.com> Antonio Querubin wrote: > I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. > In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who > may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. -- Regards Marshall Eubanks T.M. Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com tme@multicasttech.com http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Thu Mar 15 17:38:40 2001 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:38:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? In-Reply-To: <3AB0DB6E.D2114B73@21rst-century.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > Antonio Querubin wrote: > > > I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. > > In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who > > may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. > > We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. Intriguing. We do have quite a bit of multicast gear here, and we have an IPv6 BGP peer (OK, two). What do you have in mind? BTW, I'm still the looking glass problem. > > > > -- > Regards > Marshall Eubanks > > > > T.M. Eubanks > Multicast Technologies, Inc > 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 > Fairfax, Virginia 22030 > Phone : 703-293-9624 > Fax : 703-293-9609 > e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com tme@multicasttech.com > > http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com > > wfms From Joe_Eggleston-CJE136@email.mot.com Thu Mar 15 19:17:45 2001 From: Joe_Eggleston-CJE136@email.mot.com (Joe Eggleston) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:17:45 -0600 Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? References: Message-ID: <3AB11559.8060200@labs.mot.com> I think we would be interested also. Currently we just have a tunnel connection (with BGP), but within a month I hope to get a pTLA and native connection through 6Tap. Please keep me informed of what is going on in this area. Thanks, Joe William F. Maton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > >> Antonio Querubin wrote: >> >> >>> I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. >>> In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who >>> may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. >> >> We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. > > > Intriguing. We do have quite a bit of multicast gear here, and we have an > IPv6 BGP peer (OK, two). What do you have in mind? > > BTW, I'm still the looking glass problem. > > >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> Marshall Eubanks >> >> >> >> T.M. Eubanks >> Multicast Technologies, Inc >> 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 >> Fairfax, Virginia 22030 >> Phone : 703-293-9624 >> Fax : 703-293-9609 >> e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com tme@multicasttech.com >> >> http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com >> >> > > > > > wfms From tony@lava.net Thu Mar 15 19:25:52 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:25:52 -1000 (HST) Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, William F. Maton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > Antonio Querubin wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. > > > In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who > > > may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. > > > > We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. > > Intriguing. We do have quite a bit of multicast gear here, and we have an > IPv6 BGP peer (OK, two). What do you have in mind? Well, setup the MBGP peering first. I'm not sure how we're gonna handle the RP peering though (I'm assuming most folks are using PIM sparse and/or dense mode). > BTW, I'm still the looking glass problem. Seems to be ok now. From tme@21rst-century.com Thu Mar 15 19:31:23 2001 From: tme@21rst-century.com (Marshall Eubanks) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:31:23 -0500 Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? References: Message-ID: <3AB1188A.CF5DAC0F@21rst-century.com> "William F. Maton" wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > Antonio Querubin wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. > > > In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who > > > may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. > > > > We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. > > Intriguing. We do have quite a bit of multicast gear here, and we have an > IPv6 BGP peer (OK, two). What do you have in mind? > We want to build towards offering SSM multicast streams in IPv6. > > BTW, I'm still the looking glass problem. > > > > > > > wfms -- Regards Marshall Eubanks T.M. Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com tme@multicasttech.com http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com From tme@21rst-century.com Thu Mar 15 19:33:03 2001 From: tme@21rst-century.com (Marshall Eubanks) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:33:03 -0500 Subject: multicast peering over 6Bone? References: Message-ID: <3AB118EF.27752CD4@21rst-century.com> Antonio Querubin wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, William F. Maton wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > > Antonio Querubin wrote: > > > > > > > I'm looking for anyone willing to test multicast routing over the 6Bone. > > > > In particular, I'd like to setup MBGP peering connections with others who > > > > may also be running a multicast-enabled pTLA or subTLA. > > > > > > We intend to start this RSN. Please keep me in the loop. > > > > Intriguing. We do have quite a bit of multicast gear here, and we have an > > IPv6 BGP peer (OK, two). What do you have in mind? > > Well, setup the MBGP peering first. I'm not sure how we're gonna handle > the RP peering though (I'm assuming most folks are using PIM sparse and/or > dense mode). PIM-SM is the only one really worthy of much consideration IMHO. My understanding is that SSM can be done now. > > > > BTW, I'm still the looking glass problem. > > Seems to be ok now. -- Regards Marshall Eubanks T.M. Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com tme@multicasttech.com http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Fri Mar 16 09:47:51 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:47:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: Multicast configuration In-Reply-To: <3AB118EF.27752CD4@21rst-century.com> from "Marshall Eubanks" at Mar 15, 2001 02:33:03 PM Message-ID: <200103160947.f2G9lpp05420@bfib.ipng.nl> Dear people, A lot of attention in the multicast field. Excellent! I'm running on the native AMS-v6-IX with some Cisco 3640s and am wondering how one would set up multicast BGP sessions. I'm not that smart with IOS but if someone can give out his/her configuration (snippets) then I think many of the lists subscribers would have some clues. Of course, I'm open for any peering requests at or neer AMS-IX. 212.19.192.218 IPv4 3ffe:8110::1/2001:6e0::1 IPv6 regards, Pim (not the protocol, the person :) -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Fri Mar 16 13:20:12 2001 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:20:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Multicast configuration In-Reply-To: <200103160947.f2G9lpp05420@bfib.ipng.nl> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Pim van Pelt wrote: > A lot of attention in the multicast field. Excellent! > > I'm running on the native AMS-v6-IX with some Cisco 3640s and am wondering how one would > set up multicast BGP sessions. I'm not that smart with IOS but if someone can give out > his/her configuration (snippets) then I think many of the lists subscribers would have > some clues. Well, from what I can see (and thanks to Antonio Querebin for pointing this out), the Cisco's currently don't do MBGP over IPv6 - But Zebra does. So if you have a box that can run IPv6, you might look at installing Zebra and trying that out. For IPv4 MBGP, my Cisco has this: router bgp 818 ! etc ! address-family ipv4 multicast redistribute ospf 818 neighbor 142.92.10.82 activate neighbor 142.92.10.82 send-community neighbor 142.92.39.75 activate neighbor 142.92.39.75 send-community neighbor 205.189.32.218 activate neighbor 205.189.32.218 next-hop-self neighbor 205.189.32.218 send-community neighbor 205.189.32.218 soft-reconfiguration inbound neighbor 205.189.32.218 route-map Set_Community out bgp dampening network 142.62.0.0 network 142.92.0.0 network 192.75.72.0 aggregate-address 142.62.0.0 255.255.0.0 summary-only aggregate-address 142.92.0.0 255.255.0.0 summary-only exit-address-family ! This is on 12.1(7). > > Of course, I'm open for any peering requests at or neer AMS-IX. > 212.19.192.218 IPv4 > 3ffe:8110::1/2001:6e0::1 IPv6 > > regards, > Pim (not the protocol, the person :) > > > -- > ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- > Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl > http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment > ----------------------------------------------- > wfms From areitzel@mci.net Fri Mar 16 15:21:11 2001 From: areitzel@mci.net (Andrea Reitzel) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:11 -0500 Subject: Multicast configuration In-Reply-To: <200103160947.f2G9lpp05420@bfib.ipng.nl> Message-ID: Cisco doesn't support v6 multicast in their v6 IOS yet. Their v6 "Statement of direction" states it will be available "beyond mid-2001". > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Pim > van Pelt > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 4:48 AM > To: tme@21rst-century.com > Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Multicast configuration > > > Dear people, > > A lot of attention in the multicast field. Excellent! > > I'm running on the native AMS-v6-IX with some Cisco 3640s and am > wondering how one would > set up multicast BGP sessions. I'm not that smart with IOS but if > someone can give out > his/her configuration (snippets) then I think many of the lists > subscribers would have > some clues. > > Of course, I'm open for any peering requests at or neer AMS-IX. > 212.19.192.218 IPv4 > 3ffe:8110::1/2001:6e0::1 IPv6 > > regards, > Pim (not the protocol, the person :) > > > -- > ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- > Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl > http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment > ----------------------------------------------- From pdevries@ihug.com.au Sun Mar 18 00:17:42 2001 From: pdevries@ihug.com.au (peter deVries) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:17:42 +1000 Subject: BIND 9 Message-ID: <3AB3FEA5.934C34F5@ihug.com.au> I know this isin't really the right place for this but, I'm looking for bind9 howto's and any related documentation. I you've got some or know of a good site to help pls msg me thankyou in advance -- Peter deVries Information Technology Manager Ensomnia Creative Media P.O Box 2050 Toowong Qld, Australia, 4067 Email: peter@ensomnia.com.au From capitani@sun1.spfo.unibo.it Sun Mar 18 01:49:25 2001 From: capitani@sun1.spfo.unibo.it (Gianluca Capitani) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:49:25 +0100 (MET) Subject: BIND 9 In-Reply-To: <3AB3FEA5.934C34F5@ihug.com.au> Message-ID: Hello, in http://www.nominum.com/resources/documentation/index.html you find the administrator reference manual for BIND9. .... Bye Gianluca C... On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, peter deVries wrote: > I know this isin't really the right place for this but, I'm looking for > bind9 howto's and any related documentation. I you've got some or know > of a good site to help pls msg me > > thankyou in advance > -- > Peter deVries > Information Technology Manager > Ensomnia Creative Media > P.O Box 2050 Toowong > Qld, Australia, 4067 > Email: peter@ensomnia.com.au > > > From capitani@sun1.spfo.unibo.it Sun Mar 18 01:51:08 2001 From: capitani@sun1.spfo.unibo.it (Gianluca Capitani) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:51:08 +0100 (MET) Subject: BIND 9 In-Reply-To: <3AB3FEA5.934C34F5@ihug.com.au> Message-ID: In http://www.nominum.com/products/BIND/bind9.1.0.features.html the new feature of BIND 9.1.0 the most recent stable version of bind... Regards, Gianluca C... On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, peter deVries wrote: > I know this isin't really the right place for this but, I'm looking for > bind9 howto's and any related documentation. I you've got some or know > of a good site to help pls msg me > > thankyou in advance > -- > Peter deVries > Information Technology Manager > Ensomnia Creative Media > P.O Box 2050 Toowong > Qld, Australia, 4067 > Email: peter@ensomnia.com.au > > > From fink@es.net Mon Mar 19 22:58:00 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:58:00 -0800 Subject: 6bone pTLA 3FFE:8180::/28 allocated to TIAI Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010319145554.025ec720@imap2.es.net> Toledo Internet Access (TIAI) has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:8180::/28 having finished its 2-week review period with no negative comments. Note that it will take a short while for their inet6num entry to appear in the 6bone registry as they have to create it themselves. However, their registration is listed on: Thanks, Bob From 411@telcobs.com Tue Mar 20 04:14:40 2001 From: 411@telcobs.com (411) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:14:40 -0700 Subject: Bill Manning Like's the Mountain in Hawaii ! References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010319145554.025ec720@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <001d01c0b0f4$4cd1caa0$94734318@telcobs.com> True or not ????????????? From parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id Tue Mar 20 17:20:14 2001 From: parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id (Parlindungan SP) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:20:14 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IP AH and IP ESP Message-ID: could all u tell me, where the place or web-addresses i can get source code for IP AH and IP ESP ? thanks before, -- ---parl's--- From ian@thornlea.net Wed Mar 21 00:33:20 2001 From: ian@thornlea.net (ian@thornlea.net) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:33:20 -0000 Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp server Message-ID: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0B19E.87CD4620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my = connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing = some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't = able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my = configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 = accessible server I could try please let me know regards Ian ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0B19E.87CD4620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0B19E.87CD4620-- From vv00@eazier.com Wed Mar 21 18:06:41 2001 From: vv00@eazier.com (vv00@eazier.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:06:41 CST Subject: cisco router connect Message-ID: <20010321120641.1> Hello everyone, now i have a cisco3640 router and want to connect to one site of 6bone,what should i do now to fufill the target? thanks vv00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From jim@thehousleys.net Wed Mar 21 03:48:18 2001 From: jim@thehousleys.net (James Housley) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:48:18 -0500 Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp server References: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder> Message-ID: <3AB82482.797B5F52@thehousleys.net> > ian@thornlea.net wrote: > > I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my > connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing > some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't > able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my > configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 > accessible server I could try please let me know > > regards > > Ian http://www.kame.net should be reliable, sometimes slow. http://www.ipv6.fbc-hanover.org should be good, if not let me know. Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Wed Mar 21 09:40:37 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:40:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: cisco router connect In-Reply-To: <20010321120641.1> from "vv00@eazier.com" at Mar 21, 2001 12:06:41 PM Message-ID: <200103210940.f2L9ebg23476@bfib.ipng.nl> vv00, You connect your Cisco to the IPv4 Internet, and request a tunnel from an (upstream) IPv6 site. They can assign to you, some of their IPv6 address space so you can use it. You can set up BGP sessions with multiple sites using multiple tunnels. Once you are on the 6bone for several months with hands' on experience, you may want to request your own addressspace via your RIR or via the 6Bone. groet, Pim > > Hello everyone, > now i have a cisco3640 router and want to connect to one site of 6bone,what should i do now to fufill the target? > thanks > > vv00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com > -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Wed Mar 21 09:43:05 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:43:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp server In-Reply-To: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder> from "ian@thornlea.net" at Mar 21, 2001 12:33:20 AM Message-ID: <200103210943.f2L9h5b23492@bfib.ipng.nl> > > I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my = > connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing = > some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't = > able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my = > configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 = > accessible server I could try please let me know A common mistake for people to make is setting a route like this: 3ffe::/16 via gateway Which will make your router only forward packets destined for the 6bone. A better route would be (2000 chosen for esthetical reasons): 2000::/3 via gateway Which will route traffic for 2001::/16, 2002::/16 (6to4) and 3ffe::/16 (6bone) over your box. Good luck! groet, Pim -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Wed Mar 21 10:30:05 2001 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:30:05 +0100 Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp server In-Reply-To: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder>; from ian@thornlea.net on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:33:20AM -0000 References: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder> Message-ID: <20010321113005.B879@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:33:20AM -0000, ian@thornlea.net wrote: > I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 accessible server I could try please let me know Our server is pretty reliable (uptime of months) and our path to the 6bone is much more reliable nowadays: http://www.pasta.cs.uit.no (you'll see 6bone logo if you get there via IPv6) ftp://ftp.pasta.cs.uit.no Feico. From vv00@eazier.com Thu Mar 22 01:04:09 2001 From: vv00@eazier.com (vv00@eazier.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:04:09 CST Subject: give me some site pls? Message-ID: <20010321190409.1> Could you pls give me some site who provides static tunnel --not shortterm. Thank you! Regards, vv00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Wed Mar 21 12:36:59 2001 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:36:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp server In-Reply-To: <005801c0b19e$889e51c0$3ed8893e@thunder> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 ian@thornlea.net wrote: > I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 accessible server I could try please let me know Two places to try: FTP: ftp.ipv6.crc.ca HTTP: http://stats.ipv6.crc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e > > regards > > Ian > wfms From bs@posix.co.za Wed Mar 21 13:26:11 2001 From: bs@posix.co.za (Byron Sorgdrager) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:26:11 GMT Subject: give me some site pls? In-Reply-To: <20010321190409.1@160.124.48.3> References: <20010321190409.1@160.124.48.3> Message-ID: <20010321.13261100@firestar.posix.co.za> Hi there, You can try www.freenet6.net or www.viagenie.qc.ca (The freenet project is run by Viagenie as far as I'm aware) Kind Regards Byron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 3/21/01, 9:04:09 PM, vv00@eazier.com wrote regarding give me some site pls?: > Could you pls give me some site who provides static tunnel --not shortterm. > Thank you! > Regards, > vv00 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From dswingle@scoutpro.com Wed Mar 21 14:15:21 2001 From: dswingle@scoutpro.com (Del Swingle) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:15:21 -0800 Subject: cisco router connect Message-ID: You can connect via www.freenet6.net. They will provide you with a 4-to-6 tunnel. Have you successfully upgraded your IOS? The reason I ask is that I had some trouble with the IPv6 IOS for the 3620? -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of vv00@eazier.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:07 AM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: cisco router connect Hello everyone, now i have a cisco3640 router and want to connect to one site of 6bone,what should i do now to fufill the target? thanks vv00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ??¨®-¡¤??¨º??http://mail.eazier.com From flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id Wed Mar 21 14:09:46 2001 From: flider@ltrgm.ee.itb.ac.id (R. Flidersan) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:09:46 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IP AH and IP ESP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: bereng ma di dompet hi lae sitorus..hehehehe adong do rai nanggo paa sabungkus... okay On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Parlindungan SP wrote: > > could all u tell me, where the place or web-addresses i can get source > code for IP AH and IP ESP ? > > thanks before, > > -- > ---parl's--- > > > From mgenn@internet.gr Wed Mar 21 14:46:03 2001 From: mgenn@internet.gr (Maria Gennatou) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:46:03 +0200 Subject: info In-Reply-To: <20010321120641.1> Message-ID: Hello everyone. Our company, Internet Hellas SA, is a Greek ISP of the category large. We are interested in joining the 6bone and it seems that the first step is to find somebody to allocate us a pSLA or a pNLA out of their address space. Can anyone tell if there is a specific procedure that I should follow? Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance, ------------------------- Maria Gennatou Networks Operations Centre Internet Hellas ------------------------- From Todd Whipple" Message-ID: <001f01c0b224$89c1cc40$160c10ac@zama.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0B1E1.7B6D9130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can use www.zamanetworks.com to verify http. =20 Todd Whipple Zama Networks, Inc. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ian@thornlea.net=20 To: 6Bone Mailing List=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:33 PM Subject: looking for a reliable ipv6 accessible public web or ftp = server I wish to be able to use ftp or http to verify operation of my = connection - I can ping6 thnigs no problem but when I tried accessing = some of the IPv6 reachable servers listed on the 6bone page - I wasn't = able to connect - I am not sure if this is a problem with my = configuration or the server(s) - if anyone knows a reliable IPv6 = accessible server I could try please let me know regards Ian ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0B1E1.7B6D9130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0B1E1.7B6D9130-- From wabby@ihug.com.au Wed Mar 21 16:57:25 2001 From: wabby@ihug.com.au (Tom Lohdan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:57:25 +1100 Subject: give me some site pls? In-Reply-To: <20010321190409.1> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010322035642.00b83e88@pop3.norton.antivirus> There is a list of the commonly used tunnel brokers on http://hs247.com/ Tom... At 07:04 PM 21/03/2001 -0600, vv00@eazier.com wrote: >Could you pls give me some site who provides static tunnel --not shortterm. >Thank you! From extml@ndsoftware.net Wed Mar 21 17:44:02 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:44:02 +0100 Subject: Tunnel Broker Message-ID: Hi, Where i can find a tunnel broker server for provide free /64 ? I have search on yahoo and altavista and i havan't find anu script ! What's software do you use for monitoring IPv6 (stats, and down alert) ? Except MRTG and NetSaint. I search many ISP who can build a tunnel with me for route all ISP's pTLA. How much cost a AS number ? Can i register a AS number if i'm not a RIPE member ? Thanks and good IPv6 Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion ipmaster@surfnetconnexion.net ISP: For peering request: peering@surfnetconnexion.com Our site will be soon online.... From jim@thehousleys.net Wed Mar 21 20:56:40 2001 From: jim@thehousleys.net (James Housley) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:56:40 -0500 Subject: Tunnel Broker References: Message-ID: <3AB91588.203D2610@thehousleys.net> NDSoftware wrote: > > Hi, > > Where i can find a tunnel broker server for provide free /64 ? > I have search on yahoo and altavista and i havan't find anu script ! > Try going to www.6bone.net and click on "How to join the 6bone" or follow one of the "How To's" at www.ipv6.org Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) From extml@ndsoftware.net Wed Mar 21 21:28:18 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:28:18 +0100 Subject: Tunnel Broker In-Reply-To: <3AB91588.203D2610@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: No, i search many scripts for create a tunnel broker service and provide to user free /64 ! Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - ndsoftware@ndsoftware.net France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A --- Note: All HTML email sent to me can be deleted for security reasons. -----Original Message----- From: housley@thehousleys.net [mailto:housley@thehousleys.net]On Behalf Of James Housley Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:57 PM To: NDSoftware Cc: 6bone@isi.edu Subject: Re: Tunnel Broker NDSoftware wrote: > > Hi, > > Where i can find a tunnel broker server for provide free /64 ? > I have search on yahoo and altavista and i havan't find anu script ! > Try going to www.6bone.net and click on "How to join the 6bone" or follow one of the "How To's" at www.ipv6.org Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) From vv00@eazier.com Thu Mar 22 14:53:07 2001 From: vv00@eazier.com (vv00@eazier.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:53:07 CST Subject: how about freenet6 Message-ID: <20010322085307.1> but i have heard that the freenet6 will discard the tunnel when it can't get ping respond from the router, i can't make my router runing for all day at this time , so i want to connet to a site who will support static tunnel. as for the IOS which support IPV6, a beta version is in need ,u can download it from the CISCO website. Regards, vv00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From tony@lava.net Thu Mar 22 03:43:19 2001 From: tony@lava.net (Antonio Querubin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:43:19 -1000 (HST) Subject: multicast IPv4-mapped IPv6 addressing Message-ID: I'm not sure if this has come up for discussion before but is there any set convention for handling multicast IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses? In a unicast application program originally written for IPv4 a programmer can easily convert the IPv4 socket calls to IPv6 socket calls and use IPv4-mapped IPv6 unicast addresses. The IPv6 API (RFC-2133 or RFC-2553) specifies that when IPv4-mapped addresses are used, the connection is made using IPv4. Unless it's dealing with low-level calls, the program doesn't need to know whether it's really using IPv4 or IPv6. It just has access to an open socket. For example, let's say I have an application that I want to convert to using IPv6 sockets and that I normally pass it an IPv4 unicast name/address on the command line for example. If this were an IPv4 unicast program, it might typically do a gethostname to obtain the IP address and then open up a connection. Converted to using IPv6, the gethostname() (or getipnodename()) would return an IPv4-mapped address looking something like ::ffff:192.168.1.1. The IPv6 socket API handles this automatically and makes an IPv4 connection. But when it's a multicast program, the gethostname() will still return an IPv4-mapped address, however it's not useable. If for example, I specify sap.mcast.net (224.2.127.254) on the command line to this multicast program, when it does the gethostbyname() it gets back ::ffff:224.2.127.254. But this doesn't appear to be a useable multicast address. The socket calls up to where one sets the multicast TTL or joins the multicast groups work. But once I try to set the multicast TTL or join the group, the ::ffff:224.2.127.254 address is rejected as invalid. The only way I've found to make this work is to create the socket using IPv4 socket calls only. Well at least that's how Linux and gcc have been behaving so far for me. But if this is not system-specific then it seems that the handling of IPv4-mapped multicast addresses was something left out of either the IPv6 socket API or perhaps an IPv4-mapped multicast address should be defined? For example, 224.2.127.254 might be mapped to ff0e::ffff:224.2.127.254 instead of ::ffff:224.2.127.254? From parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id Thu Mar 22 09:54:35 2001 From: parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id (Parlindungan SP) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:54:35 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010302134956.A3352@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: Could you tell me the place or company where i can get some documents about DNS for TCP/IP in Linux? Thanks in advance. parlin -- ---parl's--- From parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id Thu Mar 22 10:02:11 2001 From: parlin_sp@students.ee.itb.ac.id (Parlindungan SP) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:02:11 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: IPv6 security In-Reply-To: <20010302134956.A3352@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Message-ID: helloo.. Could you tell me the place or company where i can get some documents about DNS for aplication in IPv4 and IPv6 ? Thanks in advance Parlin -- ---parl's--- From wabby@ihug.com.au Thu Mar 22 12:04:22 2001 From: wabby@ihug.com.au (Tom Lohdan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:04:22 +1100 Subject: how about freenet6 In-Reply-To: <20010322085307.1> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010322225726.00b60f10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Last I heard Freenet6 will ping you twice a week, if both pings fail, they remove the tunnel. Personally, Freenet6 is good for a quick setup testing, but not long term. They also seem to be down often for one reason or another. Many brokers will support static tunnels for non perm connected people, it just depends on their policy, some require perm connections, some don't. Check with the broker before you apply, or often it is stated in their tunnel requirements. Tom... At 08:53 AM 22/03/2001 -0600, vv00@eazier.com wrote: >but i have heard that the freenet6 will discard the tunnel when it can't >get ping respond from the router, i can't make my router runing for all >day at this time , so i want to connet to a site who will support static >tunnel. > >as for the IOS which support IPV6, a beta version is in need ,u can >download it from the CISCO website. > >Regards, >vv00 > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >»¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From karsten.haga@telenor.com Thu Mar 22 14:48:03 2001 From: karsten.haga@telenor.com (karsten.haga@telenor.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:48:03 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <6D158A832FA9D21189890090271CA89D011DD53B@BDR-SG-24-200> leave From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Thu Mar 22 19:01:19 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:01:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: About non 24/7 tunnelbrokers Message-ID: <200103221901.f2MJ1Jh28884@bfib.ipng.nl> Dear ipv6 people, I would like to bring to your attention the following widely made TunnelBroker problem. If you own or administer an IPv6 tunnelbroker that allows people to disconnect or not stay online 24/7, please ensure that your tunnelbroker server does not send traffic to the downstream IP unless you are absolutely sure that your user is connected to it. The following situation occurs (in practice, and more times than most people dare recognise): 1. Your user dials in on some ISP's dialup pool and gets the address 212.26.212.123 for example. He then signs up with your (dynamic) broker and creates a tunnel. His address is, say, 3ffe:8114:1000::11/127. 2. He now logs off and leaves his tunnel 'open'. The next, innocent, user dials up and gets 212.26.212.123 from the dialup pool at the ISP. 3. Some user on the (IPv6)Internet sends traffic to 3ffe:8114:1000::11. Your tunnelbroker will send this traffic to the user at 212.26.212.123, possibly filling his dialup link with bogus (unwanted!) traffic. Of course, many (perhaps even all) tunnelbrokers that have the dynamic tunnel 'feature' should be made, so that a user must authenticate itself at the broker before traffic gets tunneled to an IP, and also he will have to log off of the server (or be automatically logged off after being idle or not responding to pings). The best approach to this is having some client/server application, where the user logs on to the tunnelbroker via telnet, and issues something like this: USER PASS TUNNEL TO 212.26.212.123 TUNNEL UP .. and then the server will send a PING every 60 seconds or so, to which the client must respond a PONG or else he will get disconnected and the tunnel will be set to down state (thus not sending unwanted traffic to the next user of the IP). The user, when finished with his business on 6bone, can then simply state he is finished by doing some: TUNNEL DOWN QUIT and log off of the tunnelserver. I'm wondering who of you have thought of this while designing your local (dynamic) broker and if any of you are willing to implement it - if it's not already in your software. Of course, I'd like to hear from any admin that has a tunnelbroker, or has a need for one. I have implemented the above schema on tunnelserver.ipng.nl:6660 (no this is not IRC) Kind regards, hope to hear from TB-admins, Pim van Pelt -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From itojun@iijlab.net Thu Mar 22 20:44:00 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:44:00 +0900 Subject: About non 24/7 tunnelbrokers In-Reply-To: pim's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:01:19 +0100. <200103221901.f2MJ1Jh28884@bfib.ipng.nl> Message-ID: <12738.985293840@coconut.itojun.org> >The best approach to this is having some client/server >application, where the user logs on to the tunnelbroker >via telnet, and issues something like this: >USER >PASS >TUNNEL TO 212.26.212.123 >TUNNEL UP >.. >and then the server will send a PING every 60 seconds or >so, to which the client must respond a PONG or else he >will get disconnected and the tunnel will be set to down >state (thus not sending unwanted traffic to the next user >of the IP). there was a protocol proposal made by Peter Tattam, just like the above. it used APOP for user authentication. an implmentation is included in KAME distribution under "dtcp" directory. imasy.or.jp has been using this. not sure where the protocol proposal (internet draft) went. I guess he is too busy. itojun From extml@ndsoftware.net Thu Mar 22 23:04:39 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:04:39 +0100 Subject: Apache & IPv6 Message-ID: Hi, When i want compile apache 1.3.19 with IPv6 support i have: ===> src/main gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=22 -DNEED_GETADDRINFO -DNEED_GET NAMEINFO -DUSE_HSREGEX -DUSE_EXPAT -I../lib/expat-lite -DNO_DL_NEEDED `../apaci` util.c getaddrinfo.c: In function `getaddrinfo': In file included from util.c:2322: getaddrinfo.c:123: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:123: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:124: request for member `ai_protocol' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:130: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:130: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:131: request for member `ai_protocol' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:137: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:137: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:138: request for member `ai_protocol' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:147: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:147: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union getaddrinfo.c:148: request for member `ai_protocol' in something not a structure or union make[3]: *** [util.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/temp6/apache-1.3.19+mod_ssl+IPv6/src' make[1]: *** [build-std] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/temp6/apache-1.3.19+mod_ssl+IPv6' make: *** [build] Error 2 I the README: This kit assumes that you have working(*) getaddrinfo() and getnameinfo() library functions. Even if you don't have one, don't panic. We have included last-resort version (which support IPv4 only) into the kit. For more complete implementation you might want to check BIND 8.2. (*) NOTE: we have noticed that some of IPv6 stack is shipped with broken getaddrinfo(). In such cases, you should get and install BIND 8.2. When compiling this kit onto IPv6, you may need to specify some additional library paths or cpp defs (like -linet6 or -DINET6). Now you don't have to specify --enable-rule=INET6. The "configure" script will give you some warnings if the IPv6 stack is not known to the "configure" script. Currently, the following IPv6 stacks are supported: - KAME IPv6 stack, http://www.kame.net/ use configure.v6 for convenience, - Linux IPv6 stack, http://www.linux.org/ use configure.v6 for convenience. - Solaris 8 IPv6 stack, http://www.sun.com/ use configure.v6 for convenience. To disable IPv6 support, specify --disable-rule=INET6 to the "configure" script. Where i can found the lib getaddrinfo() and getnameinfo() for compile Apache ? I use RedHat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.18 IPv6. Thanks for all help. Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion ipmaster@surfnetconnexion.com SurfNetConneXion International ISP IPv4 and IPv6 Peering: peering@surfnetconnexion.com From extml@ndsoftware.net Fri Mar 23 12:01:12 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:01:12 +0100 Subject: Apache & IPv6 In-Reply-To: <20010323083228.P23336@mea-ext.zmailer.org> Message-ID: OK but the last version for RedHat 6.2 is: glibc-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm !!! Where i can find a package of glibc 2.2(.2) for RedHat 6.2 ? Can i use glibc of RedHat 7.0 ? Help me please ! Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion ipmaster@surfnetconnexion.com -----Original Message----- From: Matti Aarnio [mailto:mea@zmailer.org]On Behalf Of Matti Aarnio Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:32 AM To: NDSoftware Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Apache & IPv6 On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 12:04:39AM +0100, NDSoftware wrote: > Hi, > When i want compile apache 1.3.19 with IPv6 support i have: > > ===> src/main > gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=22 -DNEED_GETADDRINFO -DNEED_GET > NAMEINFO -DUSE_HSREGEX -DUSE_EXPAT -I../lib/expat-lite -DNO_DL_NEEDED > `../apaci` util.c > getaddrinfo.c: In function `getaddrinfo': > In file included from util.c:2322: > getaddrinfo.c:123: request for member `ai_socktype' in something not a structure or union This is indicative that header does not have 'struct addrinfo' defined in it. (Or that some #define is is used to hide the real implementation in case such exists..) I think that got added at glibc 2.1, which is what RH 6.2 has. Do get lattest update of glibc, including glibc-*-devel! Alternatively, your patch-set has its own version of netdb.h, which conflicts with things. The Apache 2.0 Alphas (not yet beta) do compile just fine at my glibc 2.2(.2) based systems, and bind themselves to ::0/0 giving service at both (I think) IPv4 and IPv6. (Be prepared to fix encountered bugs if you try that.) For years I have had native IPv6 support at my ZMailer MTA, which used to use its own "netdb6.h" include in case the system didn't show (at ./configure time) to have getaddrinfo() capabilities. These days I can compile the beast without using my old support library. (E.g. Linux systems since the dawn of IPv6 support until glibc caught up and supplied working functions.) I have no idea how carefull backwards support is in that patch-set you use. ... > Where i can found the lib getaddrinfo() and getnameinfo() for compile Apache? > > I use RedHat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.18 IPv6. > Thanks for all help. > > Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion > ipmaster@surfnetconnexion.com /Matti Aarnio From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Fri Mar 23 16:25:22 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:25:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: About non 24/7 tunnelbrokers In-Reply-To: <20010322232740.A31230@itea.ntnu.no> from "Stig Venås" at Mar 22, 2001 11:27:40 PM Message-ID: <200103231625.f2NGPM217885@bfib.ipng.nl> > > One solution I had thought of was to regularly ping the end > point and shut down the tunnel if there were no replies in a > while. > I have esthetical objections to this. You are sending potentially random users proto-41 traffic. Many users I see at Freeler (a 550k users Dutch ISP where I am IP consultant) run (windows..) protection agents which complain about unwanted traffic. You can imagine some of these users sending abuse mail to Freeler that they are being probed, hacked, etc etc by your tunnelbroker. > > Of course, I'd like to hear from any admin that has a > > tunnelbroker, or has a need for one. I have implemented > > the above schema on tunnelserver.ipng.nl:6660 (no this is > > not IRC) > > Sounds good, but this requires the user to have a program > that replies to the PINGs, do you provide that? Well, someone wrote a perl script that does exactly this. It logs on, sets the tunnel and plays ping/pong with the server as long as the connection is up. Before it goes down, one sends sigHUP to the script, and it gracefully shuts down the tunnel and logs off. If it doesn't the server will do so after a ping timeout. Of course, a C/C++, Perl, TCL or other equivalent are all equally trivial to write. Mine happens to be perl due to that user's preference for Perl code: sitc.pl by Wim Vandersmissen. Perhaps I should make this program portable (currently it uses some Linux specific code) and release it to the public. Anyone interrested ? Recapitulating, it's a tunnelbroker with support of dynamic tunnels which shutdown automatically when the user is not online. Client and Server both available. groet, Pim van Pelt -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From Todd Whipple" Message-ID: <012d01c0b3b7$f3d714c0$160c10ac@zama.net> We have a technical document on our web site for getting DNS up and running over IPv6. You can find that at www.zamanetworks.com under technical documents. Todd Whipple Zama Networks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parlindungan SP" To: Cc: "R. Flidersan" ; "Pekka Savola" ; ; <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:02 AM Subject: Re: IPv6 security > > helloo.. > > Could you tell me the place or company where i can get some documents > about DNS for aplication in IPv4 and IPv6 ? > > > Thanks in advance > > Parlin > > -- > ---parl's--- > > > > From kdeugau@deepnet.cx Fri Mar 23 18:04:56 2001 From: kdeugau@deepnet.cx (Kris Deugau) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:04:56 -0500 Subject: Apache & IPv6 References: Message-ID: <3ABB9048.B2815443@deepnet.cx> NDSoftware wrote: > OK but the last version for RedHat 6.2 is: glibc-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm !!! > Where i can find a package of glibc 2.2(.2) for RedHat 6.2 ? > Can i use glibc of RedHat 7.0 ? I looked into an unrelated upgrade some time ago, and glibc-2.2 was one of the required changes- but changing that broke *everything* else. If you have to use glibc-2.2, you'll probably have to bring the whole system up to RH7. Most of the core system software relies on shared libs from glibc. -kgd -- Money is overrated. From extml@ndsoftware.net Fri Mar 23 18:11:01 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:11:01 +0100 Subject: Apache & IPv6 In-Reply-To: <3ABB9048.B2815443@deepnet.cx> Message-ID: OK Thanks. How i can install Apache IPv6 ? Help me!!!! Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion -----Original Message----- From: Kris Deugau [mailto:kdeugau@deepnet.cx] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:05 PM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Cc: NDSoftware Subject: Re: Apache & IPv6 NDSoftware wrote: > OK but the last version for RedHat 6.2 is: glibc-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm !!! > Where i can find a package of glibc 2.2(.2) for RedHat 6.2 ? > Can i use glibc of RedHat 7.0 ? I looked into an unrelated upgrade some time ago, and glibc-2.2 was one of the required changes- but changing that broke *everything* else. If you have to use glibc-2.2, you'll probably have to bring the whole system up to RH7. Most of the core system software relies on shared libs from glibc. -kgd -- Money is overrated. From wojboj@lp.net.pl Sat Mar 24 07:36:55 2001 From: wojboj@lp.net.pl (Wojtek Bojdo/l) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 08:36:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: Apache & IPv6 In-Reply-To: <3ABB9048.B2815443@deepnet.cx> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Kris Deugau wrote: > I looked into an unrelated upgrade some time ago, and glibc-2.2 was one > of the required changes- but changing that broke *everything* else. If > you have to use glibc-2.2, you'll probably have to bring the whole > system up to RH7. Most of the core system software relies on shared > libs from glibc. I've got glibc-2.1.3 and Apache running. It's www2.ipv6.tychy.net (IPv6-only site) and in /bazar/apache you can get srces and bin's for apache working on RH6.x with old glibc. (using IPv6-capable browser ofcourse) Apache with IPv6 support CAN run on RH6.x! :) -- Wojciech Bojdo/l From vv00@eazier.com Sat Mar 24 22:20:36 2001 From: vv00@eazier.com (vv00@eazier.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:20:36 CST Subject: what's wrong with my tunnel? Message-ID: <20010324162036.1> I can't ping the end point of tunnel created by freenet6.any advise is welcome! cisco3640#show running Building configuration... Current configuration: ! version 12.0 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname cisco3640 ! enable secret 5 $1$0za5$yHMSmpQ41/mBH3vGJmyYO. enable password * ! ! ! ! ! ip subnet-zero no ip routing ! ipv6 unicast-routing ! ! ! ! ! interface Tunnel0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ip mtu 1480 ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:C18:1FFF::497/127 ipv6 rip t0 enable tunnel source FastEthernet1/0 tunnel destination 206.123.31.102 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! interface Tunnel1 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ! interface FastEthernet0/0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache shutdown duplex auto speed auto ! interface FastEthernet1/0 mac-address 0080.c8f6.9e0f ip address *.*.*.* 255.255.255.192 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache speed auto half-duplex ipv6 enable ipv6 rip t0 enable ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 my gateway no ip http server ! ipv6 route ::/0 Tunnel0 ! line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password *** login ! end ----------------------------------------------------------------- »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From pim@bfib.ipng.nl Sat Mar 24 10:16:07 2001 From: pim@bfib.ipng.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:16:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: Apache & IPv6 In-Reply-To: from "NDSoftware" at Mar 23, 2001 07:11:01 PM Message-ID: <200103241016.f2OAG8611942@bfib.ipng.nl> Nicolas, This mailinglist is not a general helpdesk function for the 6bone. You have had several tips and pointers on how to get Apache running, I will give you them again. Please follow them now, they are very helpful. 1. Upgrade to the (neede) glibc-2.2. If you do not know how to do this, then I suggest you don't run a webserver. ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu has the source. 2. Change distributions to one that has glibc-2.2. AFAIK Debian and Slackware are current. http://www.debian.org/ and http://www.slackware.com/ 3. Change OS. I can suggest OpenBSD, or FreeBSD if you really need a lot of userland packages. http://www.openbsd.org/ and http://www.freebsd.org/ 4. Let someone else compile your webserver. I would appreciate it if you stopped this thread now, it's a bit off topic in my opinion. regards, good luck. Pim > > OK Thanks. > How i can install Apache IPv6 ? > Help me!!!! > > Nicolas DEFFAYET, SurfNetConneXion > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Deugau [mailto:kdeugau@deepnet.cx] > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:05 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Cc: NDSoftware > Subject: Re: Apache & IPv6 > > > NDSoftware wrote: > > OK but the last version for RedHat 6.2 is: glibc-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm !!! > > Where i can find a package of glibc 2.2(.2) for RedHat 6.2 ? > > Can i use glibc of RedHat 7.0 ? > > I looked into an unrelated upgrade some time ago, and glibc-2.2 was one > of the required changes- but changing that broke *everything* else. If > you have to use glibc-2.2, you'll probably have to bring the whole > system up to RH7. Most of the core system software relies on shared > libs from glibc. > > -kgd > -- > Money is overrated. > -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pim@ipng.nl http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment ----------------------------------------------- From Christopher.Balzereit@experteach.de Mon Mar 26 05:00:03 2001 From: Christopher.Balzereit@experteach.de (Christopher.Balzereit@experteach.de) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:00:03 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: leave From yiftachf@hywire.com Mon Mar 26 10:17:21 2001 From: yiftachf@hywire.com (yiftachf) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:17:21 +0200 Subject: IPV6 routing dumps Message-ID: <000201c0b5dd$f2fb4fd0$0c64a8c0@hywire.com> I am trying to find some 6bone router dumps like those ipv4 dumps in merit maybe you can help me with sending me a url thanks Yiftah From itojun@iijlab.net Mon Mar 26 15:01:33 2001 From: itojun@iijlab.net (itojun@iijlab.net) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:01:33 +0900 Subject: IPV6 routing dumps In-Reply-To: yiftachf's message of Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:17:21 +0200. <000201c0b5dd$f2fb4fd0$0c64a8c0@hywire.com> Message-ID: <4495.985618893@coconut.itojun.org> >I am trying to find some 6bone router dumps like those >ipv4 dumps in merit maybe you can help me with sending me a url www.6tap.net, under "looking glass". pick "IPv6" from the menu and type "route" to the box at the right. itojun From fondoconcursable@micit.go.cr Mon Mar 26 15:33:47 2001 From: fondoconcursable@micit.go.cr (Luis Diego Espinoza) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:33:47 -0600 Subject: Real implementation ? Message-ID: <3ABF615B.8A3F7184@micit.go.cr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8284B4460F00A20CF4DB7ED2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We want to implement IPv6 in 100 000 clients, this is new network, at this level we can decide what protocol we want to use. 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Note that it will take a short while for their pTLA inet6num entry to appear in the 6bone registry as they have to create it themselves. However, their registration is listed on: Thanks, Bob From matthew@davin.ottawa.on.ca Mon Mar 26 17:16:45 2001 From: matthew@davin.ottawa.on.ca (Matthew Darwin) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:16:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: IPv6 and SNMP Message-ID: Does anybody have reasonable SNMP support working on any of their IPv6 devices? I've tried Linux and while I can talk to the SNMP agent, the MIBs are not all implemented. (I'm especially looking for the IPv6 interfaces MIB). If someone has a device or two that I could get the "read" community string for, so I can test an application I am working on, that would be great. Thanks. From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Mar 26 17:28:01 2001 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:28:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Workshop#2 for IPv6 & DNSSEC Message-ID: <200103261728.f2QHS1S27036@zed.isi.edu> % % I am sorry for duplicates. % % Based on the notes from our last workshop (post IETF-49) and some % discussion at IETF-50, we would like to expand the effort and % start planning for the next workshop. We anticipate a two day event % that brackets IETF-51, with one day before the start of IETF and one % day after the end of IETF. Hopefully we can get much of the prep work % done online prior to the event and can coordinate with the local % host to integrate some of the testing with the conference network. % % Your expression of interest will help gauge the level of onsite % effort and so I would appreciate people sending me an expression of their % desire to attend/participate. % % Signing up: Send me email % % Cost: USD 0.0 % % What to bring/have available: A computer (laptop) capable of running the % latest BIND 9 code (see ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/), with that code % installed. A working IPv6 stack on the computer(s) that you intend to use. % % As far as external Internet connectivity, we anticipate full IPv6 connectivity. % % Homework will be assigned for those whom have not "trod" this path before. % Suggestions for homework will be entertained as well as specific testing % that folks would like to see occur. % % --bill % "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From fink@es.net Tue Mar 27 06:58:15 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:58:15 -0800 Subject: pTLA request for FUBAR (BEST.CA) - review closes 9 Apr 2001 Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010326225538.00a96710@imap2.es.net> 6bone Folk, FUBAR (BEST.CA) has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review period for this will close 9 Apr 2001. Please send your comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob ============================================ >Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:49:49 -0800 (PST) >From: Richard Furda >To: Bob Fink >Cc: OW-6BONE , RF-6BONE >Subject: Re: pTLA request > > >Hello Mr. Fink, > >Sorry for getting back to you late on this... >I have been extremely busy, but I have time now >to get things in order. > >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > > Richard, > > > > What is your organization, i.e., what does it do? > > > > > >BEST Internet Servers/FUBAR Consultants offers consulting > > >services in: UNIX systems administration, network design/troubleshooting, > > >deployment and security. We are also a Cisco Resseler since March 1st > > >2000. Since August, I've been working with Cisco Systems, testing > > >their IPv6 IOS code and would like to continue to do so with BGP. > > >We currently have 1 statit route, 3FFE:C00:801C::/48.Our goal > > >is to provide symetry and redundancy to our IPv6 network. BGP is > > >the way to go. > > > > If BEST is willing to apply for the pTLA that would be great as they are a > > big ISP. Am I interpretating your response correctly in that FUBAR is part > > of, or representing, BEST? > >Please find the pTLA allocation request below. Should you have >any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at >rfurda@best.ca > > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit.During > the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally > providing the following: > > ipv6-site "FUBAR" has been operational since August 2000. > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their > ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each > tunnel that the Applicant has. > > ipv6-site: FUBAR > inet6num: 3FFE:1200:3027::/48 > inet6num: 3FFE:C00:801C::/48 > mnt-by: MNT-FUBAR > nic-hdl: RF-6BONE > nic-hdl: OW-6BONE > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6 > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request. > > tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 gw-cisco.ipv6.fubar.ca > -> ipv6-router.cisco.com CISCO BGP4+ > tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 gw-digital.ipv6.fubar.ca > -> ipv6-gw1.pa-x.dec.com DIGITAL-CA BGP4+ > tunnel: IPv6 in IPv4 gw-nextra.ipv6.fubar.ca > -> daemon.wilbury.sk NEXTRA BGP4+ > > Few requests were sent to UUNET and Sprint to arrange peering, but > no word from them yet. > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int) > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host > system. > > daemon.ipv6.fubar.ca IPv6 address 3ffe:c00:801c::1 > gw-cisco.ipv6.fubar.ca IPv6 address 3ffe:c00:e:14::2 > gw-nextra.ipv6.fubar.ca IPv6 address 3ffe:80e1:8000::46 > gw-digital.ipv6.fubar.ca IPv6 address 3ffe:1200:1002:1::42 > dopey.ipv6.fubar.ca IPv6 address 3ffe:c00:801c:1::2 > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the > Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 pingable. > > Currently, MRTG stats are provided @ http://6bone.best.ca > monitoring each tunnel. FTP & telnet access is IPv6able. > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > > BEST.ca has a 1.5mbit link to the internet and intends to use > it's resources at most possible to provide reliable, > production-quality connectivity. BEST's current 500 dial-up > base is continuelly growing. Future goal is to deploy IPv6 > and replace IPv4. BEST depends on Zebra routing > software on FreeBSD UNIX platform and is currently > testing & evaluating Cisco IPv6 solutions. > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with > person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object > for the pTLA applicant. > > Richard Furda RF-6BONE > Juraj Lutter OW-6BONE > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support > staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the > ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant. > > Tunnel requests and connectivity problems should be reported to > our common mailbox, ipv6-support@best.ca > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in > support this claim. > > As stayted above, BEST's customer base of 500 customers, is > growing. Web hosting service being deployed as we speak. > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the > 6Bone backbone and user community. > > BEST Internet Services is fully aware of the rules and policies that > 6Bone has set and agrees to follow them to the letter. > > >Thanks, >Richard From fink@es.net Tue Mar 27 22:08:34 2001 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:08:34 -0800 Subject: pTLA request for BII - review closes 10 Apr 2001 Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010327140602.025b9e50@imap2.es.net> 6bone Folk, BII, the Beijing Internet-networking Institute, has requested a pTLA allocation. The open review period for this will close 10 Apr 2001. Please send your comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob ============================================ >From: "Hua Ning" >To: "Bob Fink" >Subject: Fw: pTLA request form >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:34:04 +0800 >... > > hi. Bob, > > This is Hua Ning from BII, Beijing,China. > > Below is our pTLA request form. > > > > > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. During > > the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally > > providing the following: > > > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their > > ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each > > tunnel that the Applicant has. > > > > ipv6-site: BII > > inet6num: BII (3ffe:510::/32) > > mntner: MNT-BII > > person objects: HN2-6bone > > person objects: ZY1-6bone > > > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6 > > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone > > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request. > > > > > > Cisco7507, 3ffe:510:1::1(7507b-v6.ipv6.net.cn) > > > > > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int) > > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host > > system. > > > > ipv6 dns server: 202.204.22.201 > > router: 7507b-v6.ipv6.net.cn > > host:www.ipv6.net.cn > > host:www.ipv6.org.cn > > > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system > > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the > > Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 pingable. > > > > host:www.ipv6.net.cn > > host:www.ipv6.org.cn > > > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > > This MUST include the following: > > > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with > > person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object > > for the pTLA applicant. > > > > Hua Ning:HN1-6bone nhua@biigroup.com > > Zhang Yang:ZY1-6bone yzhang@biigroup.com > > > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support > > staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the > > ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant. > > > > ipv6@biigroup.com > > > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus > > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in > > support this claim. > > > > Beijing Internet-networking Institute is a research ISP in China, > owning > > the national ISP license. As for the IPv6, we established > strategic partnership > > with WIDE Project. > > At the first phase, We wanna deploy > > IPv6 amoung three cities, Beijing, ShangHai, GuangZhou ,in China. > > The IPv6 testbed will be build based on Hitachi's GR2000-10H, and > Cisco's > > 7507. Now, three GR2000-10Hs and 2 7507s have already been > deployed in Beijing. > > And , we have already built the first native IPv6 link in China > between BII and CERNET. > > We would like to provide IPv6 native access service to our > potential custmors. > > > > > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the > > 6Bone backbone and user community. > > > > sure. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > _________________________________________________ > > Hua Ning > > Chief Engineer > > Beijing Internet-networking Institute, > > 110E 11F China Merchants Tower, > > No.2 Dong Huan Nan Lu, Chao Yang District, > > Beijing,China > > Zip Code: 100022 > > Tel:+86-10-65660290-223 > > Fax:+86-10-65660297 > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > From bmanning@ISI.EDU Wed Mar 28 05:13:59 2001 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:13:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: viri from hijacked *edu.cn Message-ID: <200103280513.f2S5Dxp01600@zed.isi.edu> someone hijacked a relay in the *.edu.cn domain and attached a microsoft virus to mail on an old thread & replayed it into the 6bone list. please be careful reading mail on microsoft platforms. -- "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From mfcho@hknet.com Wed Mar 28 10:27:33 2001 From: mfcho@hknet.com (Cho Man Fai) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:27:33 +0800 (HKT) Subject: access servers Message-ID: Dear all, This may be a bit off topic, however, I wish some may help. Do you know any v6 enabled access server for dialup? Is the MaxTNT or Cisco as5300 provide ipv6 code? Any comment is welcome.. thanks. Rgds, Kenneth Cho From nclifton@ncren.net Wed Mar 28 17:39:49 2001 From: nclifton@ncren.net (Nathaniel Clifton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:39:49 -0500 Subject: routing question Message-ID: <3AC221E5.9FB75CA2@ncren.net> --------------5F602F206B385218A1FE0CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, I need some help with the following scenario: 4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another ip addresses: 0/0 0/1 10.2.3.1 10.5.4.1 10.2.4.1 10.2.3.2 10.6.2.1 10.2.4.2 10.5.4.2 10.6.2.2 I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured..... Thanks in advance..... Nate P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project --------------5F602F206B385218A1FE0CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
Guys,

I need some help with the following scenario:

4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another

ip addresses:

0/0                                        0/1
10.2.3.1                                10.5.4.1
10.2.4.1                                10.2.3.2
10.6.2.1                                10.2.4.2
10.5.4.2                                10.6.2.2

I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured.....

Thanks in advance.....
 

Nate
P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project --------------5F602F206B385218A1FE0CE0-- From vv00@eazier.com Thu Mar 29 23:22:17 2001 From: vv00@eazier.com (vv00@eazier.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:22:17 CST Subject: the IOS is incorrect? Message-ID: <20010329172217.1> Hi every one ,another question . now i install the IOS which version is c3640-is-mz.19991126,I have applied a tunnel to the 6bone site,now i can't ping the remote end of tunnel,i think maybe it is because the IOS have some bugs in it,or maybe my network has some problem. if someone have some good ideas about it ,pls contact with me ,thank you in advance! vv00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com From nhua@biigroup.com Thu Mar 29 13:24:39 2001 From: nhua@biigroup.com (Hua Ning) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:24:39 +0800 Subject: the IOS is incorrect? References: <20010329172217.1> Message-ID: <006a01c0b853$9c762a40$b0066aca@hmobile> hi, vv00, I once used this version, it's fine. and I suppose there is a new version of IOS for Cisco'3640 available now, which you can download from Cisco's website. Good Luck. Subject: the IOS is incorrect? > Hi every one ,another question . > now i install the IOS which version is c3640-is-mz.19991126,I have applied a tunnel to the 6bone site,now i can't ping the remote end of tunnel,i think maybe it is because the IOS have some bugs in it,or maybe my network has some problem. > if someone have some good ideas about it ,pls contact with me ,thank you in advance! > vv00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com > > _________________________________________________ Hua Ning Chief Engineer BII Group Holdings Ltd(Beijing Internet-networking Institute), 110E 11F China Merchants Tower, No.2 Dong Huan Nan Lu, Chao Yang District, Beijing,China Zip Code: 100022 Tel:+86-10-65660290-223 Fax:+86-10-65660297 _________________________________________________ From jeremy.richardson@lexis-nexis.com Thu Mar 29 18:40:18 2001 From: jeremy.richardson@lexis-nexis.com (Richardson, Jeremy (LNG)) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:40:18 -0500 Subject: routing question Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Each router will need two static routes. If these are Cisco IOS routers, you can cut and paste the two lines that appear under "RouterX's statics routes" to each of the respective routers. I tried this in the lab, so I know it works. If you stare at it long enough, it makes some sense. After pasting the routes, compare each router's routing table to this message, they should be the same: 0/0 0/1 RouterA 10.2.3.1 10.5.4.1 RouterB 10.2.4.1 10.2.3.2 RouterC 10.6.2.1 10.2.4.2 RouterD 10.5.4.2 10.6.2.2 (assuming 24 bit subnet mask & Ethernet Interfaces) 10.2.3.0 = Routers A & B 10.5.4.0 = Routers A & D 10.2.4.0 = Routers B & C 10.6.2.0 = Routers C & D RouterA's directly connected routes (shown in routing table, but not configured): C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterA's static Routes: ip route 10.2.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterB's directly connected routes C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterB's static Routes: ip route 10.6.2.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterC's directly connected routes C 10.6,2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1 RouterC's static Routes: ip route 10.5.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterD's directly connected routes C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1 RouterD's static Routes: ip route 10.2.3.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 I highly recommend a routing protocol, unless this is an excercise in static routes. Use the following config commands on all routers, for RIP II: router rip network 10.0.0.0 version 2 For EIGRP: router eigrp 1 network 10.0.0.0 For OSPF: router ospf 1 network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0 Again, use the same configuration on each router. The end result is the same, and it's much easier (and dynamic). Hope this helps... Jeremy Richardson -----Original Message----- From: Nathaniel Clifton [mailto:nclifton@ncren.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:40 PM To: 6bone@isi.edu Subject: routing question Guys, I need some help with the following scenario: 4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another ip addresses: 0/0 0/1 10.2.3.1 10.5.4.1 10.2.4.1 10.2.3.2 10.6.2.1 10.2.4.2 10.5.4.2 10.6.2.2 I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured..... Thanks in advance..... Nate P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Each router will need two static routes.  If these are Cisco IOS routers, you can cut and paste the two lines that appear under "RouterX's statics routes" to each of the respective routers.  I tried this in the lab, so I know it works.  If you stare at it long enough, it makes some sense. 

After pasting the routes, compare each router's routing table to this message, they should be the same:

              0/0        0/1
RouterA 10.2.3.1   10.5.4.1
RouterB 10.2.4.1   10.2.3.2
RouterC 10.6.2.1   10.2.4.2
RouterD 10.5.4.2   10.6.2.2
(assuming 24 bit subnet mask & Ethernet Interfaces)
10.2.3.0 = Routers A & B
10.5.4.0 = Routers A & D
10.2.4.0 = Routers B & C
10.6.2.0 = Routers C & D

RouterA’s directly connected routes
(shown in routing table, but not configured):
C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1
RouterA’s static Routes:
ip route 10.2.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterB’s directly connected routes
C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1
RouterB’s static Routes:
ip route 10.6.2.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterC’s directly connected routes
C 10.6,2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1
RouterC’s static Routes:
ip route 10.5.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterD’s directly connected routes
C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1
RouterD’s static Routes:
ip route 10.2.3.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

 
I highly recommend a routing protocol, unless this is an excercise in static routes. Use the following config commands on all routers, for RIP II:
router rip
  network 10.0.0.0
  version 2
 
For EIGRP:
router eigrp 1
   network 10.0.0.0
 
For OSPF:
router ospf 1
   network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
 
Again, use the same configuration on each router.  The end result is the same, and it's much easier (and dynamic).
 
Hope this helps...
 
Jeremy Richardson
 

 

 

 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Clifton [mailto:nclifton@ncren.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:40 PM
To: 6bone@isi.edu
Subject: routing question

 
Guys,

I need some help with the following scenario:

4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another

ip addresses:

0/0                                        0/1
10.2.3.1                                10.5.4.1
10.2.4.1                                10.2.3.2
10.6.2.1                                10.2.4.2
10.5.4.2                                10.6.2.2

I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured.....

Thanks in advance.....
 

Nate
P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8-- From jeremy.richardson@lexis-nexis.com Thu Mar 29 18:40:18 2001 From: jeremy.richardson@lexis-nexis.com (Richardson, Jeremy (LNG)) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:40:18 -0500 Subject: routing question Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Each router will need two static routes. If these are Cisco IOS routers, you can cut and paste the two lines that appear under "RouterX's statics routes" to each of the respective routers. I tried this in the lab, so I know it works. If you stare at it long enough, it makes some sense. After pasting the routes, compare each router's routing table to this message, they should be the same: 0/0 0/1 RouterA 10.2.3.1 10.5.4.1 RouterB 10.2.4.1 10.2.3.2 RouterC 10.6.2.1 10.2.4.2 RouterD 10.5.4.2 10.6.2.2 (assuming 24 bit subnet mask & Ethernet Interfaces) 10.2.3.0 = Routers A & B 10.5.4.0 = Routers A & D 10.2.4.0 = Routers B & C 10.6.2.0 = Routers C & D RouterA's directly connected routes (shown in routing table, but not configured): C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterA's static Routes: ip route 10.2.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterB's directly connected routes C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterB's static Routes: ip route 10.6.2.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterC's directly connected routes C 10.6,2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1 RouterC's static Routes: ip route 10.5.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 RouterD's directly connected routes C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 C 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1 RouterD's static Routes: ip route 10.2.3.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0 ip route 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1 I highly recommend a routing protocol, unless this is an excercise in static routes. Use the following config commands on all routers, for RIP II: router rip network 10.0.0.0 version 2 For EIGRP: router eigrp 1 network 10.0.0.0 For OSPF: router ospf 1 network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0 Again, use the same configuration on each router. The end result is the same, and it's much easier (and dynamic). Hope this helps... Jeremy Richardson -----Original Message----- From: Nathaniel Clifton [mailto:nclifton@ncren.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:40 PM To: 6bone@isi.edu Subject: routing question Guys, I need some help with the following scenario: 4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another ip addresses: 0/0 0/1 10.2.3.1 10.5.4.1 10.2.4.1 10.2.3.2 10.6.2.1 10.2.4.2 10.5.4.2 10.6.2.2 I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured..... Thanks in advance..... Nate P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Each router will need two static routes.  If these are Cisco IOS routers, you can cut and paste the two lines that appear under "RouterX's statics routes" to each of the respective routers.  I tried this in the lab, so I know it works.  If you stare at it long enough, it makes some sense. 

After pasting the routes, compare each router's routing table to this message, they should be the same:

              0/0        0/1
RouterA 10.2.3.1   10.5.4.1
RouterB 10.2.4.1   10.2.3.2
RouterC 10.6.2.1   10.2.4.2
RouterD 10.5.4.2   10.6.2.2
(assuming 24 bit subnet mask & Ethernet Interfaces)
10.2.3.0 = Routers A & B
10.5.4.0 = Routers A & D
10.2.4.0 = Routers B & C
10.6.2.0 = Routers C & D

RouterA’s directly connected routes
(shown in routing table, but not configured):
C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1
RouterA’s static Routes:
ip route 10.2.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterB’s directly connected routes
C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1
RouterB’s static Routes:
ip route 10.6.2.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterC’s directly connected routes
C 10.6,2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1
RouterC’s static Routes:
ip route 10.5.4.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

RouterD’s directly connected routes
C 10.5.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
C 10.6.2.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet 0/1
RouterD’s static Routes:
ip route 10.2.3.0 225.255.255.0 Ethernet0/0
ip route 10.2.4.0 255.255.255.0 Ethernet0/1

 
I highly recommend a routing protocol, unless this is an excercise in static routes. Use the following config commands on all routers, for RIP II:
router rip
  network 10.0.0.0
  version 2
 
For EIGRP:
router eigrp 1
   network 10.0.0.0
 
For OSPF:
router ospf 1
   network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
 
Again, use the same configuration on each router.  The end result is the same, and it's much easier (and dynamic).
 
Hope this helps...
 
Jeremy Richardson
 

 

 

 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Clifton [mailto:nclifton@ncren.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:40 PM
To: 6bone@isi.edu
Subject: routing question

 
Guys,

I need some help with the following scenario:

4 routers with 2 interfaces each 0/0 and 0/1 and all of them need to talk to one another

ip addresses:

0/0                                        0/1
10.2.3.1                                10.5.4.1
10.2.4.1                                10.2.3.2
10.6.2.1                                10.2.4.2
10.5.4.2                                10.6.2.2

I need help figuring out how the static routes would be configured.....

Thanks in advance.....
 

Nate
P.S. This question is for an IPv6 project

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B87F.B7E90CF8-- From nhua@biigroup.com Thu Mar 29 13:24:39 2001 From: nhua@biigroup.com (Hua Ning) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:24:39 +0800 Subject: the IOS is incorrect? References: <20010329172217.1> Message-ID: <006a01c0b853$9c762a40$b0066aca@hmobile> hi, vv00, I once used this version, it's fine. and I suppose there is a new version of IOS for Cisco'3640 available now, which you can download from Cisco's website. Good Luck. Subject: the IOS is incorrect? > Hi every one ,another question . > now i install the IOS which version is c3640-is-mz.19991126,I have applied a tunnel to the 6bone site,now i can't ping the remote end of tunnel,i think maybe it is because the IOS have some bugs in it,or maybe my network has some problem. > if someone have some good ideas about it ,pls contact with me ,thank you in advance! > vv00 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > »¶Ó­·ÃÎÊ¡¡http://mail.eazier.com > > _________________________________________________ Hua Ning Chief Engineer BII Group Holdings Ltd(Beijing Internet-networking Institute), 110E 11F China Merchants Tower, No.2 Dong Huan Nan Lu, Chao Yang District, Beijing,China Zip Code: 100022 Tel:+86-10-65660290-223 Fax:+86-10-65660297 _________________________________________________ From indra@marmoset.net Sat Mar 31 04:07:30 2001 From: indra@marmoset.net (indra@marmoset.net) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:07:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: hi! can anybody help in this: configuring bgp on a linux 2.2.16-IPv6 enabled router. i am using zebra 0.90, but having problems. the daemon is running and receiving connections from its peer on the other side of an IPv6 tunnel, but is not advertising the reachability information of the local network. tried all docs, manuals etc. but it does not help. zebra suite gets installed fine, but this problem repeats even with zebra 0.91. any help or pointers, thanks in advance. regards, Indra.