From usagi-core Wed Nov 1 09:56:30 2000 From: usagi-core (usagi-core) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 18:56:30 +0900 Subject: [ANN] 1st release of USAGI IPv6 environment Message-ID: We are glad to announce the 1st release of USAGI Project. The "USAGI" means UniverSAl playGround for Ipv6. It is the IPv6 development project for Linux operating systems mainly. As many other operating systems and routers, the Linux kernel has its original IPv6 implementation. However, the development was done long time ago and the implementation is not up-to-dated. Many important features such as IPsec and NDP are missing or miss-implemented. Considering the situation, we have started USAGI Project with WIDE Project, KAME Project and TAHI Project in August 2000. The USAGI Project is managed by volunteers and aims to provide better IPv6 environment on Linux freely. We try to improve Linux kernel, IPv6 related libraries and IPv6 applications. Please visit http://www.linux-ipv6.org/ for further details. Today, November 1st, we are glad to announce 1st official release from USAGI Project. At the release, we include the following three packages. - Linux Kernel-2.4.0-test9-usagi-20001101a Based on Linux Kernel-2.4.0-test9, we have improved and implemented + better source address selection, + ICMPv6 Node Information Queries, + SNMP statistics per device, + IPv6 khttpd, + joining all-node multicast address on network devices and + many bug fixes. - glibc-2.1.3-usagi-20001101a Based on glibc-2.1.3, we have improved + supporting sin6_scope_id, + adding AI_ADDRCONFIG flag, + some RFC2292 functions, + adding getifaddrs API and + some bug fixes. - iputils-ss000418-usagi-20001101a Based on iputils-ss000418, we have improved + supporting sin6_scope_id, + ICMPv6 Node Information Queries and + supporting Autoconfigure. You can get above source codes from the following URL. ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/stable/patch/ USAGI Project will release snapshot codes on each two weeks and after implementing some features, we will release stable codes. We will announce latest information regarding releasing codes via web page. Please check our web site. We also provide the binary packages for some distributions. Some of the binary packages have diffrent code version with original USAGI code because of packaging policy. You can get the packages from following sites. Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (potato) ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/stable/package/debian/ Kondara MNU/Linux (Jirai) ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/stable/package/kondara/ RedHat Linux 7.0 ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/stable/package/redhat/ TurboLinux 6.0 (or later) (for Japanese version) ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/stable/package/turbo/ By the way, we manage the mailing list for USAGI users. If you have questions or advices, please join the mailing list. For more ditails, please see http://www.linux-ipv6.org/ml/ . Thanks. Related Web sites. WIDE Project http://www.wide.ad.jp/ KAME Project http://www.kame.net/ TAHI Project http://www.tahi.org/ -- USAGI Project From 6bone@schulte.org Wed Nov 1 20:27:12 2000 From: 6bone@schulte.org (6bone@schulte.org) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 14:27:12 -0600 Subject: IPv6 shell access swap? Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101141454.020b4570@pop.schulte.org> Greetings, Is anyone willing to swap shell access with me on a V6 enabled unix box? I've got a fairly reliable 6bone v6 tunnel to Sprint on a FreeBSD 4.1.1 box that's pretty much dedicated to v6 testing. I'd like to swap login access with someone who has a non-sprint tunnel, so I can use it for remote testing. Ideally it'd be on a dedicated box with a fairly reliable uptime, and a dual v4/v6 stack. My server should be up virtually 24/7, minus when I'm making changes to the v6 config or something along that lines. It can be reached by both v4 and v6 networks. Thank you. -- Christopher Schulte | christopher@schulte.org http://www.schulteconsulting.com/ - Consulting http://noc.schulte.org/ - IPv4 209.134.156.192/27 http://www.ipv6.schulte.org/ - IPv6 3ffe:2900:e00a::/48 From ksbn@kt.co.kr Thu Nov 2 00:19:42 2000 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:19:42 +0900 Subject: IPv6 shell access swap? References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101141454.020b4570@pop.schulte.org> Message-ID: <3A00B31D.65CE1BC5@kt.co.kr> How are you? I'm running following boxes. And you can use guest account. The password of guest account is .guest. The boxes are attached to KOREN IPv6 network using native IPv6 over ATM. KOREN IPv6 network is peering to 6TAP, WIDE, APAN and SingAREN. (1) cdtbsd/FreeBSD 3.5.1 IPv4: 203.255.254.26 IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:201:2ff:fe7e:fec5 (2) cdt61/Solaris 7 IPv4: 203.255.254.27 IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:0:80:2079:8eb6 (3) cdt62/Solaris 8 (I'm working for BIND9.) IPv4: 203.255.254.28 IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:a00:20ff:fecf:18a2 (4) cdtwin/Windows 2000 IPv4: 203.255.254.29 IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:2c0:6cff:fe60:7814 Will you send me the guest account for you box? Thank you. "6bone@schulte.org" wrote: > Greetings, > > Is anyone willing to swap shell access with me on a V6 enabled unix box? > > I've got a fairly reliable 6bone v6 tunnel to Sprint on a FreeBSD 4.1.1 box > that's pretty much dedicated to v6 testing. > > I'd like to swap login access with someone who has a non-sprint tunnel, so > I can use it for remote testing. Ideally it'd be on a dedicated box with a > fairly reliable uptime, and a dual v4/v6 stack. My server should be up > virtually 24/7, minus when I'm making changes to the v6 config or something > along that lines. It can be reached by both v4 and v6 networks. > > Thank you. > > -- > Christopher Schulte | christopher@schulte.org > http://www.schulteconsulting.com/ - Consulting > http://noc.schulte.org/ - IPv4 209.134.156.192/27 > http://www.ipv6.schulte.org/ - IPv6 3ffe:2900:e00a::/48 -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8279 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From KEITHT@hthk.com Thu Nov 2 06:29:27 2000 From: KEITHT@hthk.com (Keith Tang (HTHK - Engineer II, NW3G)) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:29:27 +0800 Subject: IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: Hi , Question on IPv6 tunnel 1.To setup 6to4 or 6over4 tunnel with 6bone end site should i have a IPv6 supported Router and Leased Line. 2.All our PCs host to connect Internet are using private IP, 192.168.48.X, from 3600 Cisco router generating by NAT, Can I use Private IPv4 address to setup 6to4 tunnel with 6 bone end site? 3. If the answer is "No" for the question 2, then I must use a Real IP. In order to obtain a Real IP, I can choose one of the connections: leased line (With a Router), PPPoE Dial up (NO router, 24 hours * 7 days) or 56k Dial Up Modem (No Router, for sure) . Can I setup 6to4 tunnel by using PPPoE or 56k dial Up. 4. There are number of features in IPv6, Authentication and ESP, Auto-configuration, RSVP, Flow Label. If we setup a tunnel with Cisco in 6to4 or 6over4 how can I test those functionalities. Any O/S, Any program, Any procedures, Any hacker program to test the Security in Ipv6 Keith Tang From davidg@uk.uu.net Thu Nov 2 08:42:06 2000 From: davidg@uk.uu.net (David Gethings) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: IPv6 tunnel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Keith, Answers are inline: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Keith Tang (HTHK - Engineer II, NW3G) wrote: > Hi , > Question on IPv6 tunnel > 1.To setup 6to4 or 6over4 tunnel with 6bone end site should i have a IPv6 > supported Router and Leased Line. You don't have to, no. The tunnel can start from one of your hosts on the LAN. Of course you can just as easily start the tunnel from the router. > > 2.All our PCs host to connect Internet are using private IP, 192.168.48.X, > from 3600 Cisco router generating by NAT, > Can I use Private IPv4 address to setup 6to4 tunnel with 6 bone end site? In thoery yes. I've never done it personally. From theads I have seen on this list it is possible, but sounds difficult. > > 3. If the answer is "No" for the question 2, then I must use a Real IP. In > order to obtain a Real IP, I can choose one of the connections: > leased line (With a Router), PPPoE Dial up (NO router, 24 hours * 7 days) > or 56k Dial Up Modem (No Router, for sure) . > Can I setup 6to4 tunnel by using PPPoE or 56k dial Up. > > > 4. There are number of features in IPv6, Authentication and ESP, > Auto-configuration, RSVP, Flow Label. If we setup a tunnel with Cisco in > 6to4 or 6over4 how can I test those functionalities. Any O/S, Any program, > Any procedures, Any hacker program to test the Security in Ipv6 There is little point in testing any of these features in a 6over4 tunnel as the majority of the time your IPv6 packet is encapsulated in an IPv4 packet. Only on a IPv6 enabled device will the IPv6 headers be seen and so adhered to. > > > Keith Tang > Regards -- David Gethings UUNET, a Worldcom Company, Network Activation Engineer Internet House, 332 Science Park, Email: davidg@uk.uu.net Cambridge, CB4 0BZ, United Kingdom. Phone: +44 (0)1223 581515 http://www.uk.uu.net/ From tcp6@mail.be Thu Nov 2 09:02:50 2000 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:02:50 -0800 Subject: Solaris Message-ID: <200011020902.BAA12211@mail18.bigmailbox.com> Hello is there anyone who has an answer to this: We are working with Solaris8 and Bind8, One solaris machine had DNS for IPv6 up and running, But, when I issue the command: ping -A inet6 (hostname) no packets are sent at all. We use Solris8 on an Intel Architecture. Also is there anyone from belgium who knows an ISP that can provide IPv6 addresses? Please don't be vague I have already trouble understanding all this. thx I don't mind sharing all my findings with you all. Greetings Mithrandir. ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 11:53:48 2000 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:53:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Solaris In-Reply-To: <200011020902.BAA12211@mail18.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Johan Verelst wrote: > Hello is there anyone who has an answer to this: > We are working with Solaris8 and Bind8, > One solaris machine had DNS for IPv6 up and running, > But, when I issue the command: ping -A inet6 (hostname) > no packets are sent at all. > We use Solris8 on an Intel Architecture. what happens with # nslookup -q=aaaa (hostname) does it find it? Do you have an /etc/inet/ipnodes or a nis or NIS+ ipnodes table? Pete. From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 12:01:05 2000 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:01:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [ANN] 1st release of USAGI IPv6 environment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, usagi-core wrote: > > We are glad to announce the 1st release of USAGI Project. The "USAGI" > means UniverSAl playGround for Ipv6. It is the IPv6 development project > for Linux operating systems mainly. > > As many other operating systems and routers, the Linux kernel has > its original IPv6 implementation. However, the development was done > long time ago and the implementation is not up-to-dated. Many important > features such as IPsec and NDP are missing or miss-implemented. This is great news. I look forward to your new code being incorporated into the mainstream Linux kernel development. Peter. From brusso@phys.hawaii.edu Thu Nov 2 12:19:47 2000 From: brusso@phys.hawaii.edu (Brian Russo) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 02:19:47 -1000 Subject: IPv6 shell access swap? In-Reply-To: <3A00B31D.65CE1BC5@kt.co.kr>; from ksbn@kt.co.kr on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:19:42AM +0900 References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101141454.020b4570@pop.schulte.org> <3A00B31D.65CE1BC5@kt.co.kr> Message-ID: <20001102021947.C460@uhhepr.phys.hawaii.edu> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:19:42AM +0900, ksb wrote: > How are you? > > I'm running following boxes. And you can use guest account. > The password of guest account is .guest. > > The boxes are attached to KOREN IPv6 network using native > IPv6 over ATM. KOREN IPv6 network is peering to 6TAP, WIDE, > APAN and SingAREN. just an idea.. not to dictate anyone else's site policy.. herm.. maybe it's not such a great idea to give out l/p's on a mailing list like this? i dont care if they're restricted shells or whatever.. my $0.02 (tax exclusive) - brian. > > (1) cdtbsd/FreeBSD 3.5.1 > IPv4: 203.255.254.26 > IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:201:2ff:fe7e:fec5 > (2) cdt61/Solaris 7 > IPv4: 203.255.254.27 > IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:0:80:2079:8eb6 > (3) cdt62/Solaris 8 (I'm working for BIND9.) > IPv4: 203.255.254.28 > IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:a00:20ff:fecf:18a2 > (4) cdtwin/Windows 2000 > IPv4: 203.255.254.29 > IPv6: 2001:220:0:2:2c0:6cff:fe60:7814 > > Will you send me the guest account for you box? > Thank you. > > > "6bone@schulte.org" wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > Is anyone willing to swap shell access with me on a V6 enabled unix box? > > > > I've got a fairly reliable 6bone v6 tunnel to Sprint on a FreeBSD 4.1.1 box > > that's pretty much dedicated to v6 testing. > > > > I'd like to swap login access with someone who has a non-sprint tunnel, so > > I can use it for remote testing. Ideally it'd be on a dedicated box with a > > fairly reliable uptime, and a dual v4/v6 stack. My server should be up > > virtually 24/7, minus when I'm making changes to the v6 config or something > > along that lines. It can be reached by both v4 and v6 networks. > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > Christopher Schulte | christopher@schulte.org > > http://www.schulteconsulting.com/ - Consulting > > http://noc.schulte.org/ - IPv4 209.134.156.192/27 > > http://www.ipv6.schulte.org/ - IPv6 3ffe:2900:e00a::/48 > > -- > Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom > TEL : +82-42-870-8322 > FAX : +82-42-870-8279 > E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr > -- > > -- +------------------------------------------------------------- | Brian Russo GPG ID: 54D81666 | 404E 87E8 DD0C 275B 742B 09AD 2243 839C 54D8 1666 From tcp6@mail.be Thu Nov 2 13:44:04 2000 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:44:04 -0800 Subject: solaris Message-ID: <200011021344.FAA28394@mail16.bigmailbox.com> > Hello is there anyone who has an answer to this: > We are working with Solaris8 and Bind8, > One solaris machine had DNS for IPv6 up and running, > But, when I issue the command: ping -A inet6 (hostname) > no packets are sent at all. > We use Solris8 on an Intel Architecture. what happens with # nslookup -q=aaaa (hostname) does it find it? Do you have an /etc/inet/ipnodes or a nis or NIS+ ipnodes table? Pete. Thanks a lot I will try it out as soon as I get my computers back. Expect an answer next week or so. Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From Ben Lovett Thu Nov 2 15:19:13 2000 From: Ben Lovett (''Ben Lovett ' ') Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:19:13 -0800 Subject: Problems getting FreeNet6's tunnel working In-Reply-To: ; from JBrown@thrupoint.net on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:57:37AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20001102071913.A30316@bsdguru.com> Brown, James (JBrown@thrupoint.net) wrote: One of us thinks the other is talking about something completly different. tun0 is my PPP connection.. When I dial into my ISP, i use the tun0 interface to get my IPv4 connection. When I run the perl script provided by Freenet6, the only thing it should be doing is assigning the gif0 interface my PPP IP, and then my IPv6 tunnel endpoint. I do have a static IP on my PPP connection. Maybe, now that I have tried to clear this up a little, we can get somewhere. Sorry if this is getting a bit tedious ;) -Ben *snip* > Yes- but the endpoint of the tunnel has to be on the *same box* > you are wanting to run IPv6 because the endpoint will strip > off the IPv4 header. If the v4 header is stripped off > at your gateway and not the host, the IPv6 packet has nowhere > to go. > > (Use fixed width font to view below.) > > > + > | > YOU + FreeNet > | > + > > gif0 ------------------ Freetunnel0 > 192.145.217.55/24 196.27.56.10/24 > xl0 ethernet0 > 3ffe:a:b:c::1 prefixlen 127 3ffe:a:b:c::2 prefixlen 127 From jason@jax-inc.com Thu Nov 2 15:27:03 2000 From: jason@jax-inc.com (Jason Bogin) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:27:03 -0500 Subject: IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: <71760B58DB78D111BF3D00C0F01783591AF0C7@WEB_SERVER> Keith, I have a sample Cisco IPv6 configuration on my web site when I did research for the University of North Florida. Go to http://www.jax-inc.com/IPv6 Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Keith Tang (HTHK - Engineer II, NW3G) To: 'Kristoff Bonne' Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU Sent: 11/2/00 1:29 AM Subject: IPv6 tunnel Hi , Question on IPv6 tunnel 1.To setup 6to4 or 6over4 tunnel with 6bone end site should i have a IPv6 supported Router and Leased Line. 2.All our PCs host to connect Internet are using private IP, 192.168.48.X, from 3600 Cisco router generating by NAT, Can I use Private IPv4 address to setup 6to4 tunnel with 6 bone end site? 3. If the answer is "No" for the question 2, then I must use a Real IP. In order to obtain a Real IP, I can choose one of the connections: leased line (With a Router), PPPoE Dial up (NO router, 24 hours * 7 days) or 56k Dial Up Modem (No Router, for sure) . Can I setup 6to4 tunnel by using PPPoE or 56k dial Up. 4. There are number of features in IPv6, Authentication and ESP, Auto-configuration, RSVP, Flow Label. If we setup a tunnel with Cisco in 6to4 or 6over4 how can I test those functionalities. Any O/S, Any program, Any procedures, Any hacker program to test the Security in Ipv6 Keith Tang From kontogia@cti.gr Fri Nov 3 07:53:48 2000 From: kontogia@cti.gr (Kontogianni Vicky) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:53:48 +0200 Subject: Solaris In-Reply-To: <200011020902.BAA12211@mail18.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: <000b01c0456b$35f21a50$a3818c96@kontogianni> Check your /etc/nsswitch.conf file. It must have a line of the form: ipnodes: files dns This is the way to instruct the IPv6 aware applications (like ping) to make use of the DNS. Vicky. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On > Behalf Of Johan > Verelst > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:03 AM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Solaris > > > Hello is there anyone who has an answer to this: > We are working with Solaris8 and Bind8, > One solaris machine had DNS for IPv6 up and running, > But, when I issue the command: ping -A inet6 (hostname) > no packets are sent at all. > We use Solris8 on an Intel Architecture. > > Also is there anyone from belgium who knows an ISP > that can provide IPv6 addresses? > Please don't be vague I have already trouble > understanding all this. > > thx > > I don't mind sharing all my findings with you all. > > Greetings Mithrandir. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From Lukovszki, Csaba" Dear All, I am trying to chose between Linux and FreeBSD implementations. Do you have any suggestions or possibly some ineternet references about comparition between them? Thanks From tcp6@mail.be Fri Nov 3 14:29:17 2000 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:29:17 -0800 Subject: solaris (thx!) Message-ID: <200011031429.GAA26677@mail4.bigmailbox.com> >Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:53:48 +0000 (GMT) >From: Peter Bunclark kontogia@cti.gr >To: Johan Verelst >cc: 6bone@isi.edu >Subject: Re: Solaris > > > >On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Johan Verelst wrote: > >> Hello is there anyone who has an answer to this: >> We are working with Solaris8 and Bind8, >> One solaris machine had DNS for IPv6 up and running, >> But, when I issue the command: ping -A inet6 (hostname) >> no packets are sent at all. >> We use Solris8 on an Intel Architecture. >what happens with ># nslookup -q=aaaa (hostname) meanwhile, thanks to Vicky, the above mentioned command works but, the answer on nslookup -q=aaaa (hostname) is this: *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.81: No response from server *** Default servers are not available (if you want I can include the DNS files next time) /var/named/db.127.0.0 /var/named/db.cache /var/named/db.fddi.be /var/named/db.localhost /var/named/fe80::.db /var/named/local.db or the ones you ask for. > >does it find it? => well, no >Do you have an /etc/inet/ipnodes, => yes or a nis or NIS+ ipnodes table? => No > >Pete. Thanks again for your efforts. ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From yu_dani_cn@sina.com Sat Nov 4 06:09:50 2000 From: yu_dani_cn@sina.com (yu_dani_cn) Date: Sat Nov 4 06:09:50 2000 Subject: how to make tunnel and route on solaris8 Message-ID: <20001104060950.2832.qmail@sina.com> Dear all i am testing ipv6 protocol on solaris8.But we cannt find command to make tunnel and route.we have a block of IPV6 address .But we cant tunnel out.who have been done it.Please give me a case . thanks ______________________________________ =================================================================== ÐÂÀËÃâ·Ñµç×ÓÓÊÏä http://mail.sina.com.cn ÐÂÀËÍƳö°ÂÔ˶ÌÐÅÏ¢ÊÖ»úµã²¥·þÎñ http://sms.sina.com.cn/ From Ben Lovett Sun Nov 5 14:26:18 2000 From: Ben Lovett ('''Ben Lovett ' ' ') Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 06:26:18 -0800 Subject: Problems getting FreeNet6's tunnel working In-Reply-To: ; from JBrown@thrupoint.net on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:48:59AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20001105062618.A36526@bsdguru.com> Sorry about not responding quicker, but school has gotten in the way ;) No go ... Still is not working. I'm going to wait for the release of 4.2-STABLE, which should be commout out real soon .. Unless I can figure it out on my own (which i kinda doubt), i'll just have to wait for more assistance .. Do you have any more ideas? -ben Brown, James (JBrown@thrupoint.net) wrote: > How about the contents of the sysctl variables: > net.inet.ip.forwarding > net.inet.ip.fastforwarding > net.inet6.ip6.forwarding > > > My FreeBSD 4.1 box has > > root@sixshooter:/tmp#uname -a > FreeBSD sixshooter.lab.thrupoint.net 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Thu > Jul 27 04:44:16 GMT 2000 > root@usw4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 > root@sixshooter:/tmp#sysctl -a | grep forward > net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 > net.inet.ip.fastforwarding: 0 > net.inet6.ip6.forwarding: 1 > > while FreeBSD 4.1.1 has > > root@colt46:~#uname -a > FreeBSD colt46.lab.thrupoint.net 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Tue > Sep 26 00:46:59 GMT 2000 > jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 > root@colt46:~#sysctl -a | grep forwar > net.inet.ip.forwarding: 0 > net.inet.ip.fastforwarding: 0 > net.inet6.ip6.forwarding: 0 > > > jpb > === > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ''Ben Lovett ' ' > To: Brown, James > Cc: 6bone@isi.edu > Sent: 11/2/00 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: Problems getting FreeNet6's tunnel working > > Brown, James (JBrown@thrupoint.net) wrote: > > One of us thinks the other is talking about something completly > different. tun0 is my PPP connection.. When I dial into my ISP, i use > the tun0 interface to get my IPv4 connection. When I run the perl > script provided by Freenet6, the only thing it should be doing is > assigning the gif0 interface my PPP IP, and then my IPv6 tunnel > endpoint. I do have a static IP on my PPP connection. > > Maybe, now that I have tried to clear this up a little, we can get > somewhere. Sorry if this is getting a bit tedious ;) > > -Ben > > *snip* > > Yes- but the endpoint of the tunnel has to be on the *same box* > > you are wanting to run IPv6 because the endpoint will strip > > off the IPv4 header. If the v4 header is stripped off > > at your gateway and not the host, the IPv6 packet has nowhere > > to go. > > > > (Use fixed width font to view below.) > > > > > > + > > | > > YOU + FreeNet > > | > > + > > > > gif0 ------------------ Freetunnel0 > > 192.145.217.55/24 196.27.56.10/24 > > xl0 ethernet0 > > 3ffe:a:b:c::1 prefixlen 127 3ffe:a:b:c::2 prefixlen > 127 From crawdad@fnal.gov Mon Nov 6 21:33:24 2000 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:33:24 -0600 Subject: Telnet extensions for IPv6 In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:41:31 +0530. Message-ID: <200011062133.PAA03221@gungnir.fnal.gov> > where can i find the spec/draft for telnet extensions for > supporting IPv6 Not to be flippant, but "What extensions?" The telnet protocol doesn't need any extensions, once your TCP understands how to do the pseudo-header checksum when IPv6 is the network layer. Ah, if you mean extensions to a particular telnet *program*, that's up to the author or vendor of the program, not the IETF. From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Tue Nov 7 08:12:08 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:12:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 linux-problem Message-ID: Greetings, Does anybody know if the is a mailing-list or usenet-group for IPv6-related problems on linux? In the mean while, here is already a question about my problem: Technical data: Toshiba Laptop (Satellite Pro 420CDT). Mandrake 7.1 kernel: 2.2.15-4mdkfb (recompiled to enable IPv6) ethernet-card: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem (PCMCIA) When I boot the PC, everything is OK. I get a correct IPv6 address, the linux finds the router, and I am able to ping6 everything on the 6bone. But, after a while (about 5 to 10 minutes I guess), I cannot reach anything at all. Even a 'ping6' of my local IPv6-router doesn't work anymore ('Address unreachable', If I remember correctly). The only thing that helps is: - ifconfig eth0 down - ifconfig eth0 up (still nothing) - ping Message-ID: <12155.973586204@ocs3.ocs-net> On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:12:08 +0100 (CET), Kristoff Bonne wrote: >Does anybody know if the is a mailing-list or usenet-group for >IPv6-related problems on linux? linux-net is about the closest. >In the mean while, here is already a question about my problem: >Technical data: >Toshiba Laptop (Satellite Pro 420CDT). >Mandrake 7.1 >kernel: 2.2.15-4mdkfb (recompiled to enable IPv6) >ethernet-card: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem (PCMCIA) > >When I boot the PC, everything is OK. I get a correct IPv6 address, the >linux finds the router, and I am able to ping6 everything on the 6bone. > >But, after a while (about 5 to 10 minutes I guess), I cannot reach >anything at all. >Even a 'ping6' of my local IPv6-router doesn't work anymore ('Address >unreachable', If I remember correctly). > >The only thing that helps is: >- ifconfig eth0 down >- ifconfig eth0 up >(still nothing) >- ping >(Remark: it's the IPv4 (!) address of router I must ping). It sounds like your card is loosing its MAC filter, that is a common problem with the Xircom cards. IPv6 regularly looks at its local environment, that requires multicast which makes the xircom driver reload the MAC filter on the card. There is a timing problem (which we could never track down) where the load of the MAC filter silently fails. The result is that the card stops responding to packets. This problem is not just IPv6, it affects v4 as well. I find that ifconfig eth0 -promisc; ping -c1 local-router usually fixes my CBEM56G. Switching out of promiscuous mode reloads the MAC filter, even if the card was not promiscuous to start off with. From kontogia@cti.gr Tue Nov 7 09:25:12 2000 From: kontogia@cti.gr (Kontogianni Vicky) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:25:12 +0200 Subject: Linux question Message-ID: <001801c0489c$a2353d30$a3818c96@kontogianni> Hello, I am running RedHat Linux 6.2, and I am following the HOWTO-IPv6 instructions of Peter Bieringer in order to install IPv6. My system has successfully obtained an IPv6 address and I try to telnet to it using this address without success (Connection refused message). Is it related to the config of /etc/xinetd.conf? Do I have to declare something special about an IPv6 enabled service??? Thank you in advance for the answers, Vicky Kontogianni Network Technologies Sector Computer Technology Institute Patras - GREECE Tel. +30 61 960377 e-mail: kontogia@cti.gr From bmanning@ISI.EDU Tue Nov 7 13:42:24 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:42:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: BOUNCE 6bone@zephyr.isv6-dnssec workshop Message-ID: <200011071342.FAA11333@zed.isi.edu> Due to some email anomolies, this notice was not delivered to all intended recipients. I am sorry for duplicates. Please note that to participate, you -MUST- have a valid IPv6 delegation and you must send me a note indicating your intent to attend prior to the workshop. Due to the nature of the workshop, walk-ins will not be able to particpate. -------------------------------------------------------------- For planning purposes... A while back I asked if there was interest in holding a DNSSEC workshop for IPv6 native machines. We missed the last workshop after NANOG20 so it seems that holding one in conjunction with the IETF-49 meeting might be the best fit for many potential participants. There was enough of a response to begin the planning process and we now have a room reserved. Here are the logistics for those needing to make travel arrangements. Where: Sheraton San Diego Hotel & Marina (The IETF-49 venue) 1380 Harbor Island Drive San Diego, CA 92101-1092 Phone: 1-619-291-2900 Fax: 1-619-692-2337 When: Friday and Saturday -- 15th and 16th December 2000 Signing up: Send me email . There are only 30 slots so signing up early will ensure you have a seat. Cost: $0 US What to bring: A computer (laptop) capable of running the latest BIND 9 code (see ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/), with that code installed. A working IPv6 stack. Also, bring a cat 5 cable. As far as external Internet connectivity, we anticipate full IPv6 connectivity since the workshop will depend on access to the IPv6 root cluster. :) Specific homework assignments will be sent to the registered participants that should be done prior to the workshop. Thanks to EP.NET, LLC. and Greenflash consulting for coordination of the facilities. --bill From jcomeau@dialtoneinternet.net Tue Nov 7 16:34:10 2000 From: jcomeau@dialtoneinternet.net (John Comeau) Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:34:10 -0500 Subject: Linux question References: <001801c0489c$a2353d30$a3818c96@kontogianni> Message-ID: <3A082F02.A7A2D34F@dialtoneinternet.net> The xinetd packages commonly available don't have inet6 compiled in. Get the fixed packages from ipv6.dialtoneinternet.net - jc Kontogianni Vicky wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running RedHat Linux 6.2, and I am following the HOWTO-IPv6 > instructions of Peter Bieringer in order to install IPv6. My system has > successfully obtained an IPv6 address and I try to telnet to it using this > address without success (Connection refused message). Is it related to the > config of /etc/xinetd.conf? Do I have to declare something special about an > IPv6 enabled service??? > > Thank you in advance for the answers, > > Vicky Kontogianni > Network Technologies Sector > Computer Technology Institute > Patras - GREECE > > Tel. +30 61 960377 > e-mail: kontogia@cti.gr -- John Comeau - Chief Technology Officer Dialtone Internet - Extremely Fast Web Systems phone://954-581-0097x113 fax://954-581-7629 mailto://jcomeau@dialtoneinternet.net http://www.dialtoneinternet.net From Mark.Smith@au.uu.net Tue Nov 7 22:56:39 2000 From: Mark.Smith@au.uu.net (Mark Smith) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:56:39 +1100 Subject: IPv6 linux-problem Message-ID: <3004BA31F74ED4119DBD00508B65AD8462C53B@h22.unit21.ozemail.com.au> Hi, There are known reliability issues with the Xirom pcmcia cards and the linux pcmcia drivers. I have the RBEM56G-100, and have had some networking issues, in particular, using tcpdump/ethereal to perform packet sniffs - it works initially, but as soon as I stop tcpdump, I have to perform the same sort of re-initialisation of the card Kristoff lists below to be able to use it for standard ipv4 stuff. I am currently using pcmcia-cs version 3.1.19. I tried using 3.1.21, and the problems were worse - from memory, the card wouldn't even initialise properly at boot. Recently, I briefly tried ipv6 under linux with this network card, after I got a ipv6 router going, and got no where. I haven't had a chance to look into it further. The card did not seem to be processing router advertisments. There is a discussion of the issues here https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=33427 regards, Mark. -- mark smith uunet asia pacific product engineering - uusecure vpn centre of excellence (e) mark.smith@au.uu.net (w) http://www.au.uu.net (p) +61 2 9434 5014 (m) +61 4 1224 4871 (f) +61 2 9437 5888 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] > Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2000 19:12 > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: IPv6 linux-problem > > > Greetings, > > Does anybody know if the is a mailing-list or usenet-group for > IPv6-related problems on linux? > > > In the mean while, here is already a question about my problem: > Technical data: > Toshiba Laptop (Satellite Pro 420CDT). > Mandrake 7.1 > kernel: 2.2.15-4mdkfb (recompiled to enable IPv6) > ethernet-card: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem (PCMCIA) > > When I boot the PC, everything is OK. I get a correct IPv6 > address, the > linux finds the router, and I am able to ping6 everything on > the 6bone. > > But, after a while (about 5 to 10 minutes I guess), I cannot reach > anything at all. > Even a 'ping6' of my local IPv6-router doesn't work anymore ('Address > unreachable', If I remember correctly). > > The only thing that helps is: > - ifconfig eth0 down > - ifconfig eth0 up > (still nothing) > - ping > (Remark: it's the IPv4 (!) address of router I must ping). > > Some 5 to 10 minutes later: again the same problem. > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE belgacom > internet backbone > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International > Connectivity > kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 > From tcp6@mail.be Wed Nov 8 08:32:34 2000 From: tcp6@mail.be (Johan Verelst) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:32:34 -0800 Subject: Solaris Message-ID: <200011080832.AAA15894@mail19.bigmailbox.com> Thanks Vicky, it works now I should have noticed this it was mentioned in the /etc/nsswitch.dns file. I feel like a compleet fool. Thanks again. Some more tips? I have found a template (finally) at sun.com but the nslookup command still says: Can't find server name for etc... Still, the ftp and ping and other stuff work like a charm. >From: "Kontogianni Vicky" >To: "'Johan Verelst'" >Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU> >Subject: RE: Solaris >Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:53:48 +0200 > >Check your /etc/nsswitch.conf file. It must have a line of the form: > >ipnodes: files dns > >This is the way to instruct the IPv6 aware applications (like ping) to make >use of the DNS. > > >Vicky. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Want a free mail at http://www.mail.be ? From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Nov 8 13:44:47 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:44:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 linux-problem In-Reply-To: <12155.973586204@ocs3.ocs-net> Message-ID: Greetings, On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Keith Owens wrote: > >Does anybody know if the is a mailing-list or usenet-group for > >IPv6-related problems on linux? > linux-net is about the closest. comp.os.linux.networking ?? (Or are you talking about a mailing-list). >> When I boot the PC, everything is OK. I get a correct IPv6 address, the >> linux finds the router, and I am able to ping6 everything on the 6bone. > >But, after a while (about 5 to 10 minutes I guess), I cannot reach > >anything at all. > >Even a 'ping6' of my local IPv6-router doesn't work anymore ('Address > >unreachable', If I remember correctly). (...) > It sounds like your card is loosing its MAC filter, that is a common > problem with the Xircom cards. IPv6 regularly looks at its local > environment, that requires multicast which makes the xircom driver > reload the MAC filter on the card. There is a timing problem (which we > could never track down) where the load of the MAC filter silently > fails. The result is that the card stops responding to packets. In the mean while, I've set up another linux-box (same distribution but 3c509-card) and I do not have the problem overthere. So, it does indead seams to be linked with the Xircom-card. > This > problem is not just IPv6, it affects v4 as well. I've never had any problems with v4. Even when the v6 is 'stuck', I do not have any problems with v4. > I find that > ifconfig eth0 -promisc; ping -c1 local-router > usually fixes my CBEM56G. Switching out of promiscuous mode reloads > the MAC filter, even if the card was not promiscuous to start off with. Not really a solution of-course. (I could try to put it in the cron-tab to run every minute ;-)) Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE (HOME) belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Nov 8 13:57:42 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:57:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 linux-problem In-Reply-To: <3004BA31F74ED4119DBD00508B65AD8462C53B@h22.unit21.ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: Greetings Mark (and Keith and Jean-Louis who also replied) On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Mark Smith wrote: > There are known reliability issues with the Xirom pcmcia cards and the linux > pcmcia drivers. Apparently not only the xircom-cards. ;-( > I have the RBEM56G-100, and have had some networking issues, in particular, > using tcpdump/ethereal to perform packet sniffs - it works initially, but as > soon as I stop tcpdump, I have to perform the same sort of re-initialisation > of the card Kristoff lists below to be able to use it for standard ipv4 > stuff. Do mark that I never had any problems with v4. Even when v6 was 'stuck', I was still able to use v4 without any problem. The problem I had was purely in the v6-stack. In the mean while, I've set up two more linux-boxes (using a 3c509-card), and have found some other problem. (Only I do not know if this actually a problem or a 'feature'). I had the idea -as in IPv6 IP-addresses are plentyfull- to set up some additional IP-addresses (global unique) PER APPLICATION- to configure in the boxes as additional IP-address. So, in addition to the IP-address auto-configured by ND based on the MAC-address, the boxes would have a number of IP-addresses based on the applications that run on the box. (E.g. DNS = 3FFE:80B0:1001:1:0:0:1:1, ping6 = 3FFE:80B0:1001:1:0:0:1:2, ...) I noticed that -when you configure these additional IP-addresses, v6-routing went completely wrong. Althou the default-route (learned via ND) to the local IPv6-router was still present when I did a 'netstat -rn -A inet6', the box sent all packets destined outside the local LAN to its loopback-interface (a traceroute had one hop: '::1' and then the bit-bucket). Note: I still was able to ping6 the other v6-hosts on the LAN. The only thing I could do was remove all v6 ip-addresses from the ethernet-interface to clear-out all v6-routing entries via the ethernet-interface and start all-over. Is this a 'bug' or am I doing something wrong? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE (HOME) belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Nov 8 19:42:26 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:42:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site Message-ID: Greetings, Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 (hence, on the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). This is for a 'test of principle', so the actual content is not important. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE (HOME) belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From oliver.michael@gargantuan.com Thu Nov 9 02:53:27 2000 From: oliver.michael@gargantuan.com (Michael W. Oliver) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:53:27 -0500 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C049CE.53135380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that http://altavista.ipv6.digital.com/ is IPv6 only, but I may be wrong. Also, you can go to http://www.kame.net/ to verify IPv6 HTTP connectivity. There is an IPv6 version, but if you get to the IPv6 side, you will find the dancing KAME on the top of the page. Good luck!! = Michael W. Oliver = mailto:oliver.michael@gargantuan.com = http://michael.gargantuan.com/ = Page me at mailto:1570482@skytel.com = ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:42 PM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site Greetings, Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 (hence, on the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). This is for a 'test of principle', so the actual content is not important. Cheerio! Kr. 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If you try: http://www.pasta.cs.uit.no you will get a start page telling whether you get there over v4 or v6. My home network is reachable over v6 only, although my home-www-page has little content you can use it as test of principle: http://wwwhome.dillema.net Feico. From stuart.prevost@bt.com Thu Nov 9 12:10:30 2000 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:10:30 -0000 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C7C@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> You can try www.ipv6.bt.com as it only has a AAAA record Regards, Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] > Sent: 08 November 2000 19:42 > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site > > > Greetings, > > Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 > (hence, on > the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). > > This is for a 'test of principle', so the actual content is > not important. > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE (HOME) belgacom > internet backbone > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International > Connectivity > kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 > From jguthrie@brokersys.com Thu Nov 9 13:47:41 2000 From: jguthrie@brokersys.com (Jonathan Guthrie) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:47:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 (hence, on > the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). > This is for a 'test of principle', so the actual content is not important. I always use www.ipv6.eye-net.com.au for my tests. -- Jonathan Guthrie (jguthrie@brokersys.com) Brokersys +281-580-3358 http://www.brokersys.com/ 12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA From jln@stben.be Thu Nov 9 23:46:54 2000 From: jln@stben.be (Jean-Louis Noel) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:46:54 +0100 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site References: Message-ID: <001001c04aa7$572e4d60$2555950a@stben.be> Hello, From: "Kristoff Bonne" To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 (hence, on > the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). A test ipv6 web server with only a "AAAA" : http://garsrv.stben.be/index.html Bye, Jean-Louis From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 07:40:18 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:40:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: <20001109122001.C29131@dillema.net> Message-ID: Greetings, On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Feico Dillema wrote: > > Does anybody know a (web)site that is only reachable in IPv6 (hence, on > > the 6bone, but that does NOT have IPv4-reachability). > > This is for a 'test of principle', so the actual content is not important. > If you try: http://www.pasta.cs.uit.no you will get a start page > telling whether you get there over v4 or v6. My home network is > reachable over v6 only, although my home-www-page has little content > you can use it as test of principle: > http://wwwhome.dillema.net Thanks. I did notice however that a traceroute from Belgium to Norway went over Japan. Well, it's not via the US (as would be the case for IPv4), but hardly optimal neither. ;-) Isn't there any co-operation on European level for this kind of stuff? (e.g. ten-155?) Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 07:41:46 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:41:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C7C@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: Greetings, On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 stuart.prevost@bt.com wrote: > You can try www.ipv6.bt.com as it only has a AAAA record I cannot reach that site. Is it supposed to be up? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne/ -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 07:31:50 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:31:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > I believe that http://altavista.ipv6.digital.com/ is IPv6 only, but I may > be wrong. Also, you can go to http://www.kame.net/ to verify IPv6 HTTP > connectivity. There is an IPv6 version, but if you get to the IPv6 side, > you will find the dancing KAME on the top of the page. Good luck!! The web-site of altavista does not seams to be active anymore, but I do get the dancing KAME on their web-site. Thanks (and also to everybody elso who replied). Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 09:32:32 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:32:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6bone feed towards SE-Asia and North-America Message-ID: Greetings, Althou I do not want to complain about the service of my current IPv6-provider (belnet), I a looking to expand my 6bone-connectivity with additional peerings (or feeds). I am looking towards SA-Asia (as a lot of the IPv6-developement seams to be done overthere) and North-America. On IPv4-level, we have connectivity to SA-Asia via the STIX (Singtel), and towards the USA via BBN/GTE/IPergy and Exodus. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl Fri Nov 10 10:12:02 2000 From: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl (Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:12:02 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > > You can try www.ipv6.bt.com as it only has a AAAA record > > I cannot reach that site. > Is it supposed to be up? It worked (and works) for me. Did you do a traceroute? rvdp From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 11:01:58 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:01:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gegroet/Greetings, On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl wrote: >>> You can try www.ipv6.bt.com as it only has a AAAA record >> I cannot reach that site. >> Is it supposed to be up? > It worked (and works) for me. Did you do a traceroute? Yep, see below: [root@odin /root]# traceroute6 www.ipv6.bt.com traceroute to www.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5:20:2c0:4fff:fe43:8e6c) from 3ffe:80b0:1001:1:2a0:24ff:feb7:6d23, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 r-tgx.ipv6.belbone.net (3ffe:80b0:1001:1:260:5cff:fef3:610c) 2.468 ms * 2.215 ms 2 t9.ipv6.science.belnet.net (3ffe:608:2:2::10) 14.047 ms * 13.59 ms 3 3ffe:8038:80:14::1 (3ffe:8038:80:14::1) 39.805 ms * 39.812 ms 4 3ffe:8038:80:4::2 (3ffe:8038:80:4::2) 57.208 ms * 59.528 ms 5 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2 (3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2) 81.63 ms * 92.652 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * (...) The packet-loss in hops 1 to 5 seams to be 'normal', I get in in all 'traceroute6's I do and a ping6 to the IP-address of hop5 shows no packet-loss. Althou, oddly enough, I get respondse-time which are much larger than the one I get using traceroute: between 200 and 240 ms. (see below) [root@odin /root]# ping6 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2 PING 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2(3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=0 hops=58 time=439.2 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=1 hops=58 time=396.5 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=2 hops=58 time=296.0 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=3 hops=58 time=233.6 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=4 hops=58 time=230.3 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=5 hops=58 time=230.0 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=6 hops=58 time=226.7 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=7 hops=58 time=234.6 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=8 hops=58 time=236.4 ms 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=9 hops=58 time=232.7 ms Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From stuart.prevost@bt.com Fri Nov 10 11:04:08 2000 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:04:08 -0000 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C85@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Hello, Please try now, I shutdown a peer that was advertising your prefix and I can now reach you ASTERIX#ping 3ffe:80b0:1001:1:260:5cff:fef3:610c Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 3FFE:80B0:1001:1:260:5CFF:FEF3:610C, timeout is 2 seconds: !!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 276/356/636 ms Regards, Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 11:02 AM > To: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl > Cc: Kristoff Bonne; stuart.prevost@bt.com; 6bone@isi.edu > Subject: RE: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site > > > Gegroet/Greetings, > > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl wrote: > >>> You can try www.ipv6.bt.com as it only has a AAAA record > >> I cannot reach that site. > >> Is it supposed to be up? > > It worked (and works) for me. Did you do a traceroute? > > Yep, see below: > [root@odin /root]# traceroute6 www.ipv6.bt.com > traceroute to www.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5:20:2c0:4fff:fe43:8e6c) from > 3ffe:80b0:1001:1:2a0:24ff:feb7:6d23, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets > 1 r-tgx.ipv6.belbone.net > (3ffe:80b0:1001:1:260:5cff:fef3:610c) 2.468 ms > * 2.215 ms > 2 t9.ipv6.science.belnet.net (3ffe:608:2:2::10) 14.047 ms > * 13.59 ms > 3 3ffe:8038:80:14::1 (3ffe:8038:80:14::1) 39.805 ms * 39.812 ms > 4 3ffe:8038:80:4::2 (3ffe:8038:80:4::2) 57.208 ms * 59.528 ms > 5 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2 > (3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2) 81.63 > ms * 92.652 ms > 6 * * * > 7 * * * > (...) > > The packet-loss in hops 1 to 5 seams to be 'normal', I get in in all > 'traceroute6's I do and a ping6 to the IP-address of hop5 shows no > packet-loss. > Althou, oddly enough, I get respondse-time which are much > larger than the > one I get using traceroute: between 200 and 240 ms. > (see below) > [root@odin /root]# ping6 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2 > PING > 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2(3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2) 56 data > bytes > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=0 > hops=58 time=439.2 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=1 > hops=58 time=396.5 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=2 > hops=58 time=296.0 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=3 > hops=58 time=233.6 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=4 > hops=58 time=230.3 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=5 > hops=58 time=230.0 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=6 > hops=58 time=226.7 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=7 > hops=58 time=234.6 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=8 > hops=58 time=236.4 > ms > 64 bytes from 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2: icmp_seq=9 > hops=58 time=232.7 > ms > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE belgacom > internet backbone > (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International > Connectivity > kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 > From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Nov 10 11:37:53 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:37:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C85@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: Greetings, On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 stuart.prevost@bt.com wrote: > Please try now, I shutdown a peer that was advertising your prefix ... hmm. Interesting. Who is it? > ... and I can now reach you > ASTERIX#ping 3ffe:80b0:1001:1:260:5cff:fef3:610c > Type escape sequence to abort. > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 3FFE:80B0:1001:1:260:5CFF:FEF3:610C, > timeout is 2 seconds: > !!!!! > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 276/356/636 ms The same thing here. (see traceroute below). But, I do still thing there is a problem of saturation somewhere. (somewhere between hop 4 and 5 of my traceroute). --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- [root@odin /root]# traceroute6 www.ipv6.bt.com traceroute to www.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5:20:2c0:4fff:fe43:8e6c) from 3ffe:80b0:1001:1:2a0:24ff:feb7:6d23, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 r-tgx.ipv6.belbone.net (3ffe:80b0:1001:1:260:5cff:fef3:610c) 2.321 ms * 2.579 ms 2 t9.ipv6.science.belnet.net (3ffe:608:2:2::10) 12.758 ms * 14.496 ms 3 3ffe:8038:80:14::1 (3ffe:8038:80:14::1) 38.841 ms * 41.048 ms 4 3ffe:8038:80:4::2 (3ffe:8038:80:4::2) 58.218 ms * 58.714 ms 5 3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2 (3ffe:2100:1:11:60:3e59:27fa:2) 85.914 ms * 484.83 ms 6 leanet-core-lon-a2-0_1.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:1::d) 326.682 ms * 718.915 ms 7 leanet-core-ips-a2-0_1.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:1::c) 513.277 ms leanet-core-ips-e1_3.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5::) 453.057 ms 316.403 ms 8 leanet-core-ips-6init-int.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5:0:2c0:33ff:fe02:143) 298.817 ms * 587.287 ms 9 www.ipv6.bt.com (2001:618:5:20:2c0:4fff:fe43:8e6c) 389.337 ms 710.587 ms 2291.5 ms --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Fri Nov 10 12:39:13 2000 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:39:13 +0100 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: <20001110125733.B20605@itea.ntnu.no>; from venaas@alfa.itea.ntnu.no on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 12:57:33PM +0100 References: <20001109122001.C29131@dillema.net> <20001110125733.B20605@itea.ntnu.no> Message-ID: <20001110133913.A418@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 12:57:33PM +0100, Stig Venås wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 08:40:18AM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > > I did notice however that a traceroute from Belgium to Norway went over > > Japan. > > Well, it's not via the US (as would be the case for IPv4), but hardly > > optimal neither. ;-) Normally it shouldn't, but things haven't been great at the exit point out of Norway as Stig also mentioned. We're working on multihoming our network to have a backup route when our main upstream route goes down or becomes really bad like lately. > Anyone willing to offer full 6bone connectivity for UNINETT and > Norway's native IPv6 network? We're too dependent on a somewhat > unstable 6bone connectivity at the moment. We're the owner of > the pTLA 3FFE:2A00::/24. Hei Stig, We suggested Uninett to go for `real' addresses and connectivity by connecting through e.g. NTT in Londen who offers native IPv6 service either to replace 6bone connectivity or as multihoming solution. Wuold also give us the opportunity to experiment with host and router based multihoming setups. Feico. From JanVG@Knoware.NL Fri Nov 10 13:13:18 2000 From: JanVG@Knoware.NL (Jan H. van Gils) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:13:18 +0100 Subject: Question Message-ID: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> Thanks for reading, Because I do not have a IPv6 enable web browser I can not look at my IPv6 web server can somebody have a try at http://locutus.ipv6.sps.nl/ thanks and let me know if it is working. Jan ---- With regards Jan H. van Gils Internet web-page http://www.Knoware.NL/users/JanVG/ Internet e-mail address JanVG@Knoware.NL RIPE Whois JHG5-RIPE, 6BONE Whois JHG1-6BONE From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Fri Nov 10 14:53:29 2000 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:53:29 +0100 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: <20001110154413.A21983@itea.ntnu.no>; from venaas@alfa.itea.ntnu.no on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 03:44:13PM +0100 References: <20001109122001.C29131@dillema.net> <20001110125733.B20605@itea.ntnu.no> <20001110133913.A418@pasta.cs.uit.no> <20001110154413.A21983@itea.ntnu.no> Message-ID: <20001110155329.C418@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 03:44:13PM +0100, Stig Venås wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 01:39:13PM +0100, Feico Dillema wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 12:57:33PM +0100, Stig Venås wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 08:40:18AM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > > Yes, we are going for production addresses, so we should have at least > two prefixes. Great! > I'm also testing 6to4 so I have several prefixes today. > If you are interested, we could give you a 6to4 prefix using a gateway > in Trondheim as 6to4 gateway. We're also testing 6to4 (just started). We'd like to use you as 6to4 gateway initially, but planned to setup a relay ourselves too somewhat later. Feico. From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Fri Nov 10 16:59:47 2000 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:59:47 +0100 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA>; from JanVG@Knoware.NL on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 02:13:18PM +0100 References: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> Message-ID: <20001110175947.C123@dillema.net> On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 02:13:18PM +0100, Jan H. van Gils wrote: > Because I do not have a IPv6 enable web browser I can not look at my IPv6 > web server > can somebody have a try at http://locutus.ipv6.sps.nl/ thanks and let me > know if it > is working. Hallo Jan, I can get to Nederland, but not to your site. So it looks like upstreams of yours there's a connectivity problem. BTW, if you don't have a v6-enabled browser, telnet to port 80 generally works ok for testing. You can also use a v6 enabled proxy in front of your v4 browser like I do (e.g. I have added v6 support to wwwoffle and junkbuster, and squid also has v6 patches available). Feico. 18 dillema@zila:~> telnet locutus.ipv6.sps.nl 80 Trying 3ffe:2500:304::1... ^C 19 dillema@zila:~> traceroute6 locutus.ipv6.sps.nl traceroute6 to locutus.ipv6.sps.nl (3ffe:2500:304::1) from 3ffe:2a00:100:3039:25 0:4ff:feec:b1fa, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 cisco-in 1.174 ms 1.139 ms 1.078 ms 2 radio1-relay-in2.pasta.cs.uit.no 10.844 ms 10.817 ms 11.071 ms 3 radio1-gw-in2.pasta.cs.uit.no 48.17 ms 20.82 ms 20.781 ms 4 cisco.pasta.cs.uit.no 20.826 ms * 27.731 ms 5 tromso-ipv6.uninett.no 23.432 ms 21.884 ms 27.034 ms 6 trd-gw5.uninett.no 36.163 ms 35.909 ms 60.888 ms 7 oslo-gw8.uninett.no 52.573 ms 43.884 ms 48.6 ms 8 6bone-gw-uio.ipv6.sics.se 98.711 ms * * 9 3ffe:1d00:2:4::1 185.565 ms * 237.358 ms 10 3ffe:1100:0:c2c::1 329.499 ms * 381.906 ms 11 uunet-uk-if.ipv6.nl.net 402.827 ms 369.135 ms * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * *^C 20 dillema@zila:~> ping6 locutus.ipv6.sps.nl PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 3ffe:2a00:100:3039:250:4ff:feec:b1fa --> 3ffe:2500:304::1 ^C --- locutus.ipv6.sps.nl ping6 statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss From aprogas@mail.com Fri Nov 10 18:10:46 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:10:46 +0100 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> References: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> Message-ID: <200011101810.eAAIAk125632@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Jan H. van Gils wrote: > Because I do not have a IPv6 enable web browser I can not look at my IPv6 > web server > can somebody have a try at http://locutus.ipv6.sps.nl/ thanks and let me > know if it > is working. aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ telnet locutus.ipv6.sps.nl 80 locutus.ipv6.sps.nl: No address associated with hostname aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ In other words: it does not seem to work. - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6DDomfuu+THq4fAIRAhpvAKCS8cyr6wKgBt51VHoHCgXlHkhd7wCg6Gtu FKXsDcb0yonAE9DRzD68qTI= =NqmZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jcomeau@dialtoneinternet.net Fri Nov 10 18:39:05 2000 From: jcomeau@dialtoneinternet.net (John Comeau) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:39:05 -0500 Subject: ipv6 ifconfig Message-ID: <3A0C40C9.73165C2@dialtoneinternet.net> I seem to have lost my freenet6 tunnel; this has happened in the past and a reboot fixed it before. Alms for the clueless, anyone? - jc #route -A inet6 Kernel IPv6 routing table Destination Next Hop Flags Metric Ref Use Iface ::1/128 :: U 0 7 1 lo ::127.0.0.1/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo ::172.16.0.93/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo ::216.87.223.240/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo ::/96 :: U 256 0 0 sit0 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bd/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::/64 :: U 1 0 0 eth0 fe80::ac10:5d/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo fe80::d857:dff0/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo fe80::250:daff:fec1:c345/128 :: U 0 0 0 lo fe80::/10 :: UA 256 0 0 eth0 fe80::/10 :: UA 256 0 0 sit1 ff00::/8 :: UA 256 0 0 eth0 ff00::/8 :: UA 256 0 0 sit1 ::/0 fe80::ce7b:1f66 UG 1 13 0 sit1 ::/0 :: UA 256 0 0 eth0 #ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:C1:C3:45 inet addr:216.87.223.240 Bcast:216.87.223.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:daff:fec1:c345/10 Scope:Link inet6 addr: 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bd/0 Scope:Global UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:90170 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2854 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400 eth0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:C1:C3:45 inet addr:172.16.0.93 Bcast:172.16.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:43 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:43 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 inet6 addr: ::127.0.0.1/96 Scope:Unknown inet6 addr: ::216.87.223.240/96 Scope:Compat inet6 addr: ::172.16.0.93/96 Scope:Compat UP RUNNING NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 sit1 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 inet6 addr: fe80::d857:dff0/10 Scope:Link inet6 addr: fe80::ac10:5d/10 Scope:Link UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 #traceroute6 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bc traceroute to 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bc (3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bc) from 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::2bd, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 ip6-localhost (::1) 2999.09 ms !H 2998.94 ms !H 2999.88 ms !H From jln@stben.be Fri Nov 10 21:50:33 2000 From: jln@stben.be (Jean-Louis Noel) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:50:33 +0100 Subject: Question References: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> <20001110175947.C123@dillema.net> Message-ID: <003301c04b60$405a3090$2555950a@stben.be> Hello, "Feico Dillema" wrote to "Jan H. van Gils" > I can get to Nederland, but not to your site. So it looks like > upstreams of yours there's a connectivity problem. Same problem : ========== TracePath IPv6 Results from www.stben.be to locutus.ipv6.sps.nl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500 1: rout-dom.stben.be (3ffe:608:2:300:200:b4ff:fe91:a2bb) 0.893ms 2: rout-dom.stben.be (3ffe:608:2:300:200:b4ff:fe91:a2bb) asymm 1 0.646ms pmtu 1480 2: belnet.ipv6.intouch.net (3ffe:3001:6:1::1d) 444. 34ms 3: surfnet.ipv6.ams-ix.net (3ffe:3000::a500:1103:1) 378.631ms 4: uunet.ipv6.ams-ix.net (3ffe:3000::a500:1890:1) 350.437ms 5: no reply [...] 31: no reply Too many hops: pmtu 1480 Resume: pmtu 1480 ========== > 19 dillema@zila:~> traceroute6 locutus.ipv6.sps.nl > traceroute6 to locutus.ipv6.sps.nl (3ffe:2500:304::1) from > 3ffe:2a00:100:3039:25 > 0:4ff:feec:b1fa, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets > 1 cisco-in 1.174 ms 1.139 ms 1.078 ms [...] > 11 uunet-uk-if.ipv6.nl.net 402.827 ms 369.135 ms * > BTW, if you don't have a v6-enabled browser, telnet to port 80 > generally works ok for testing. You can also use a v6 enabled proxy in > front of your v4 browser like I do (e.g. I have added v6 support to > wwwoffle and junkbuster, and squid also has v6 patches available). For Internet explorer use wininet.dll from ipv6kit. Bye, Jean-Louis From jln@stben.be Fri Nov 10 22:52:41 2000 From: jln@stben.be (Jean-Louis Noel) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:52:41 +0100 Subject: Question References: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> <200011101810.eAAIAk125632@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: <008201c04b68$ee98b0c0$2555950a@stben.be> Hello, "Jasper Jongmans" wrote to "Jan H. van Gils" > aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ telnet locutus.ipv6.sps.nl 80 > locutus.ipv6.sps.nl: No address associated with hostname > aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ > > In other words: it does not seem to work. !!! ========== > set querytype=aaaa > locutus.ipv6.sps.nl Server: samba.stben.be Address: 10.149.85.7 Answer crypto-validated by server: Non-authoritative answer: locutus.ipv6.sps.nl IPv6 address = 3ffe:2500:304::1 Authoritative answers can be found from: ipv6.sps.nl nameserver = locutus.sps.nl ========== Bye, Jean-Louis From stuart@mfnx.net Fri Nov 10 19:42:49 2000 From: stuart@mfnx.net (Stephen Stuart) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:42:49 -0800 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:31:50 +0100." Message-ID: <200011101942.eAAJgo732665@hi.tech.org> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > > I believe that http://altavista.ipv6.digital.com/ is IPv6 only, but I may > > be wrong. Also, you can go to http://www.kame.net/ to verify IPv6 HTTP > > connectivity. There is an IPv6 version, but if you get to the IPv6 side, > > you will find the dancing KAME on the top of the page. Good luck!! > > The web-site of altavista does not seams to be active anymore, but I do > get the dancing KAME on their web-site. http://altavista.ipv6.digital.com/ was something I put up when I worked for Digital's Network Systems Laboratory; it probably hasn't been functional for a while now. Stephen From chrisip6@shell.ketlink.com Sat Nov 11 01:57:34 2000 From: chrisip6@shell.ketlink.com (IPV6 e-mail) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 01:57:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: IPv6 connectivity In-Reply-To: <200011101942.eAAJgo732665@hi.tech.org> Message-ID: Greetings, I have just started getting into IPv6 and i would like to know how to get started with this. I have a alot of internet/networking experiance and i run a small i-net provider and i would like to start getting into ipv6 and ipv6 networking. I would like to provide something as the 6bone. Ihave the resources and time, but i just need a little kick in finding some info to get started. Any help is appreciated. -Chris From Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl Sat Nov 11 09:56:46 2000 From: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl (Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:56:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 connectivity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, IPV6 e-mail wrote: > Greetings, > > I have just started getting into IPv6 and i would like to know how > to get started with this. I have a alot of internet/networking experiance > and i run a small i-net provider and i would like to start getting into > ipv6 and ipv6 networking. I would like to provide something as the > 6bone. Ihave the resources and time, but i just need a little kick in > finding some info to get started. Any help is appreciated. http://www.6bone.net/ and start with the links: About various IPv6 implementations How to join the 6bone rvdp From k_joch@yahoo.com Sat Nov 11 17:10:05 2000 From: k_joch@yahoo.com (Karl) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:10:05 +0100 Subject: IP Addresses question References: <008001c04b17$fe016850$7365f7c2@RHA> <200011101810.eAAIAk125632@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: <013001c04c02$56a4cb60$0a05a8c0@ooe.kmjeuro.com> Hello, i want to finally enable IPv6 on most of my servers. testing with freenet6 was successful. now i have the question how to get a assigned IP range. i have a class C IPv4 address and my own registrated name servers. is there any hint how to get a IPv6 range? Also i tried to find an upstream. i waiting 6 weeks for a reply of the people i mailed. any hint how to find an upstream for the servers located in austria would be great too. many thanks, Karl M. Joch Austria _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From aprogas@mail.com Sat Nov 11 22:25:00 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:25:00 +0100 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200011112225.eABMP1m35507@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, berry wrote: > telnet6 instead of telnet? Not needed, my regular telnet supports IPv6. It first tries an IPv6 connection, and if it fails it falls back to IPv4. Example: aprogas@harry:/usr/home/aprogas$ telnet www.ipng.nl 80 Trying 3ffe:3001:6::2... telnet: connect to address 3ffe:3001:6::2: Connection refused Trying 212.19.220.13... Connected to www.ipng.nl. Escape character is '^]'. - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6Dcc8fuu+THq4fAIRAqTuAKCixJyULDFqtOJqYAPY52BlUaIbIQCglJ55 RTq4JeMrItRJNQmUFU7OJTE= =XjVX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Mon Nov 13 07:08:30 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:08:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <200011112225.eABMP1m35507@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: Gegroet, On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Jasper Jongmans wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, berry wrote: > > telnet6 instead of telnet? > Not needed, my regular telnet supports IPv6. It first tries an IPv6 connection, and if it fails it falls back to IPv4. Example: (...) Hmmm. Interessant. Waar kun je die vinden (source of linux-executable)? Ik heb wel al een aantal sites gevonden waar je IPv6-applicaties kunt vinden, maar de 'gewone' tools (zoals telnet, ftp, ...) ben ik nog niet tegengekomen. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From aprogas@mail.com Mon Nov 13 10:35:27 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:35:27 +0100 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200011131035.eADAZRr42132@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Gils van, Jan wrote: > During the Weekend the system crashed. > It is again up and running and other reply's to my request say that it is > possible to connect. I tried again, the connection was opened, but I received no data when I issued an HTTP-request: /*** aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ telnet locutus.ipv6.sps.nl 80 Trying 3ffe:2500:304::1... Connected to locutus.ipv6.sps.nl. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: locutus.ipv6.sps.nl User-agent: telnet Terminated aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ **/ After terminating the telnet session I tried again, and the machine seemed unreachable: /*** aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ telnet locutus.ipv6.sps.nl 80 Trying 3ffe:2500:304::1... ^C aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ **/ I tried a traceroute to the host and it failed after a certain point. I also included the output of this traceroute; it might help you with fixing any problems: /*** aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ traceroute6 locutus.ipv6.sps.nl traceroute6 to locutus.ipv6.sps.nl (3ffe:2500:304::1) from 3ffe:80e8:10:2:210:5aff:febb:182f, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 harry 0.524 ms 0.404 ms 0.364 ms 2 aprogas-gw.ipv6.wilbury.sk 110.336 ms 74.231 ms 67.641 ms 3 nextra-gw.ipv6.svsbb.sk 214.963 ms 132.073 ms 239.456 ms 4 2001:600:4:1ef::1 304.575 ms * 313.019 ms 5 uunet-uk-if.ipv6.nl.net 299.86 ms * 401.682 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * ^C aprogas@muisje:/usr/home/aprogas$ **/ - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6D8Pvfuu+THq4fAIRAj1zAJ0Y33IPWivQ8kcN0BlMMXepScErCACg84K5 3eh/7w5a1nWEtg4NRJ0mQq0= =tzqY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Mon Nov 13 16:23:38 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:23:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gegroet/Bonjour/Greetings, First of all, ... oeps! Slip of the finder, I did a 'reply to all', when I should have done a 'Reply to Sender only'. This was not supposed to be sent in the mailing-list. (Hence my use of dutch) On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Marco Davids wrote: >>> telnet6 instead of telnet? >> Not needed, my regular telnet supports IPv6. It first tries an IPv6 connection, >> and if it fails it falls back to IPv4. Example: >> (...) >> Hmmm. Interessant. >> Waar kun je die vinden (source of linux-executable)? >> Ik heb wel al een aantal sites gevonden waar je IPv6-applicaties kunt >> vinden, maar de 'gewone' tools (zoals telnet, ftp, ...) ben ik nog niet >> tegengekomen. > Point your favourite searchenginge to keywords like: > inet6-apps-0.33.tar.gz (or more recent ones) Thanks. > And how about Mozilla? An IPv6 capable browser ;-) On my pentium-100 laptop? (The last time I checked it was much heavier than netscape, and even that one doesn't run very fast on that box). I think I'll try wwwoffle as proxy on my local box, so I can even use lynx to surf the web. > Openssh is also IPv6 compatible and there are many more, including > telnet, Apache, ... The only IPv6-patches of apache I found where for a (rather) old version of apache. (Which could mean possible bugs or securiry-issues ???) > irc, tcpdump, traceroute and many others. > (my telnet for example is: telnet.95.10.23.NE+ipv6-3.tar.gz). > Just point your searchengine in the right direction and you'll find what > you are looking for. Thanks! (and also to the other people who replied!). Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From John Wright Tue Nov 14 10:50:31 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:50:31 +0000 Subject: I don't understand... :) Message-ID: <20001114105031.A17203@dryfish.org> I have a computer which has a ntt tunnel onto the 6bone and I have a /48 set of addresses to play with. What I want to do and appear to be powerless to achieve is get the machines which the computer is attached to be able to use it as a router to the 6bone. Currently I can use the link-layer address and specify the interface to ping6 another computer but that machine couldn't find the rtadv messages my rtadvd was sending and even with a manual ifconfig ifn inet6 alias 2001::... we couldn't ping6 the 2001 addresses even specifying an interface (tcpdump didn't show these pings but did show the fe80 ones). Also, when I was running rtadvd my default ipv6 interface was changed to the ethernet instead of the gif tunnel. I'm totally confused. The OS is OpenBSD 2.7. How get worky or where look? From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Nov 14 14:31:21 2000 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:31:21 -0000 Subject: Routing loop inside wide Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C99@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Hello, Incase your not ware their seems to be a problem on the wide network, there is a routing loop between these two boxes pc7.otemachi.wide.ad.jp [3ffe:501:0:1802:2e0:18ff:fe98:a28d] & pc8.otemachi.wide.ad.jp [2001:200:0:1802:210:5aff:fe85:4414] Tracing the route to pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:4819:2000:5054:FF:FEDC:50D2) 1 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:618:1::105) 312 msec * 308 msec 2 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1800:210:5AFF:FE76:2040) 288 msec 292 msec 288 msec 3 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 288 msec 284 msec 288 msec 4 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 292 msec 288 msec 288 msec 5 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 284 msec 292 msec 284 msec 6 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 292 msec 288 msec 284 msec 7 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 284 msec 292 msec 288 msec 8 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 288 msec 284 msec 292 msec 9 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 292 msec 348 msec 280 msec 10 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 288 msec 292 msec 288 msec 11 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 296 msec 292 msec 296 msec 12 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 296 msec 292 msec 288 msec 13 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 284 msec 284 msec 292 msec 14 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 288 msec 284 msec 288 msec 15 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 284 msec 280 msec 288 msec 16 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 292 msec 292 msec 292 msec 17 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 292 msec 288 msec 288 msec 18 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 292 msec 296 msec 288 msec 19 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 280 msec 288 msec 288 msec 20 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 292 msec * 292 msec 21 pine.v6.kame.net (3FFE:501:0:1802:2E0:18FF:FE98:A28D) 292 msec 296 msec 284 msec 22 pine.v6.kame.net (2001:200:0:1802:210:5AFF:FE85:4414) 288 msec * 288 msec Regards, Stuart Stuart Prevost --------------------------------------------------- IP Specialist, Futures Testbed Tel: +44 1473 646891 Fax: +44 1473 643906 Mobile: +44 7801 977290 Email: stuart.prevost@bt.com Addr: B29/136 - Adastral Park, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich. 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IP5 3RE From yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp Tue Nov 14 14:50:10 2000 From: yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp (Yasuhiro Ohara) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:50:10 +0900 Subject: (v6 13810) Routing loop inside wide In-Reply-To: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C99@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> References: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C99@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001114235010E.yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp> stuart.prevost> Hello, stuart.prevost> stuart.prevost> Incase your not ware their seems to be a problem on the wide network, there stuart.prevost> is a routing loop between these two boxes stuart.prevost> stuart.prevost> pc7.otemachi.wide.ad.jp [3ffe:501:0:1802:2e0:18ff:fe98:a28d] stuart.prevost> stuart.prevost> & stuart.prevost> stuart.prevost> pc8.otemachi.wide.ad.jp [2001:200:0:1802:210:5aff:fe85:4414] sorry, I've fixed it. could you try again? yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp From stuart.prevost@bt.com Tue Nov 14 14:46:52 2000 From: stuart.prevost@bt.com (stuart.prevost@bt.com) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:46:52 -0000 Subject: (v6 13810) Routing loop inside wide Message-ID: <5104D4DBC598D211B5FE0000F8FE7EB207413C9A@mbtlipnt02.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Yep, it works fine now. Thanks Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Yasuhiro Ohara [mailto:yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:50 PM > To: v6@wide.ad.jp; stuart.prevost@bt.com > Cc: kato@wide.ad.jp; 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: (v6 13810) Routing loop inside wide > > > > stuart.prevost> Hello, > stuart.prevost> > stuart.prevost> Incase your not ware their seems to be a > problem on the wide network, there > stuart.prevost> is a routing loop between these two boxes > stuart.prevost> > stuart.prevost> pc7.otemachi.wide.ad.jp > [3ffe:501:0:1802:2e0:18ff:fe98:a28d] > stuart.prevost> > stuart.prevost> & > stuart.prevost> > stuart.prevost> pc8.otemachi.wide.ad.jp > [2001:200:0:1802:210:5aff:fe85:4414] > > sorry, I've fixed it. > could you try again? > > yasu@sfc.wide.ad.jp > From aprogas@mail.com Tue Nov 14 15:38:45 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:38:45 +0100 Subject: I don't understand... :) In-Reply-To: <20001114105031.A17203@dryfish.org> References: <20001114105031.A17203@dryfish.org> Message-ID: <200011141538.eAEFcjh50055@aprogas.student.utwente.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, John Wright wrote: > I have a computer which has a ntt tunnel onto the 6bone and I have a /48 > set of > addresses to play with. > > What I want to do and appear to be powerless to achieve is get the > machines > which the computer is attached to be able to use it as a router to the > 6bone. > > Currently I can use the link-layer address and specify the interface to > ping6 another computer but that machine couldn't find the rtadv messages > my > rtadvd was sending and even with a manual ifconfig ifn inet6 alias > 2001::... we couldn't ping6 the 2001 addresses even specifying an > interface > (tcpdump didn't show these pings but did show the fe80 ones). Are you sure the hosts are configured to accept rtadv packets? I never worked with OpenBSD, but in FreeBSD one can change the behaviour concerning rtadv packets using rc.conf and/or sysctl. I am sure that with some BSD logic you can find out how to do it in OpenBSD ;) . Since the rtadv packets are not received or not accepted by the hosts, they do not know who their router is. It is possible to manually configure addresses, but you must then also manually add a route (or several) so the host knows where to send its packets too. Specifying an interface works only on link-local addresses I think, that would explain why you still get not reply when specifying it. > Also, when I was running rtadvd my default ipv6 interface was changed to > the > ethernet instead of the gif tunnel. This sounds a little too odd to be true. Are you sure rtadvd is causing this? > I'm totally confused. > > The OS is OpenBSD 2.7. > > How get worky or where look? If none of the mentioned above works, then check your cables and try again later. ;) - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6EVyFfuu+THq4fAIRAiF5AKCXuMFZtmYtj98TFjTbVjtW6tc9kQCg7IZ1 L0r/refJBix7xgC8zFYM3Dk= =M7he -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mmedina@mat.upc.es Tue Nov 14 17:42:46 2000 From: mmedina@mat.upc.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=AA?= Carmen Medina) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:42:46 +0100 Subject: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? Message-ID: <3A117996.5F5D0FEE@mat.upc.es> Hello I want to join to 6bone, but I have a doubt about a device that I have to use like a host, so what do you think that is better to use like a workstation: a WINDOWS NT or SUN?? And why? If someone have experience in some of these devices, I'd like to know the results. From gh@raditex.se Tue Nov 14 22:40:37 2000 From: gh@raditex.se (G Hasse) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:40:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? In-Reply-To: <3A117996.5F5D0FEE@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Mª Carmen Medina wrote: > Hello > I want to join to 6bone, but I have a doubt about a device that I have > to use like a host, so what do you think that is better to use like a > workstation: a WINDOWS NT or SUN?? > And why? Why not try FreeBSD. Why?? For it is free and very good. You just can't lose any money. Just gain knowlege. Besides the sourcecode is included and you can make it even better. ;-) > If someone have experience in some of these devices, I'd like to know > the results. G Hasse ---------------------------------------------------------------- Göran Hasse email: gh@raditex.se Tel: 08-6949270 Raditex AB http://www.raditex.se Fax: 08-6949280 Sickla Alle 7, 1tr Mob: 070-5530148 131 34 NACKA, SWEDEN From whipple@zama.net Wed Nov 15 05:37:22 2000 From: whipple@zama.net (Todd Whipple) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:37:22 -0800 Subject: web utilities Message-ID: <001601c04ec6$22e50760$61480518@zama.net> For those looking for some web based IPv6 utilities to run quick tests, you can visit www.zama6.net and click on IPv6 Network Utilities. You will find ping, traceroute, host and dig. Todd Whipple From wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu Wed Nov 15 15:49:40 2000 From: wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu (Wes Horner) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:49:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? In-Reply-To: <3A117996.5F5D0FEE@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: > I want to join to 6bone, but I have a doubt about a device that I have > to use like a host, so what do you think that is better to use like a > workstation: a WINDOWS NT or SUN?? > And why? I have 4 different machines on the 6bone and of all of them the NT machine is the lesat useful. There is almost no software (mozilla?). The ipv6 support is more like a proof of concept than an implementation. The other machines are solaris8, openbsd and freebsd. All 3 have comperable ipv6 support. Openbsd has trouble with bind9 (threads on sparc). I use openbsd mainly as the endpoint of my tunnel. The solaris imlementation if ipv6 is pretty nice. I haven't had any complaints. Freebsd also works really well. They have an ipv6 section in the ports tree that makes building ipv6 apps easy. Openbsd may have this as well but I haven't looked. Freebsd and openbsd have the same ipv6 stack ( as do most of the bsds). So why you may or may not want to use solaris you will definatley want to use some unix. Windows is way behind in the ipv6 world. wes From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Wed Nov 15 20:39:42 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:39:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, >> I did notice however that a traceroute from Belgium to Norway went >> over Japan. >> Well, it's not via the US (as would be the case for IPv4), but >> hardly optimal neither. ;-) > Well, you can bet this goes via the US (twice even :-). Thing do are changing. There are actually some networks who do have direct connections to Asia! > > Isn't there any co-operation on European level for this kind of stuff? > > (e.g. ten-155?) > TF-TANT (the experimental side of TEN-155/Quantum) runs an IPv6 > network, mostly over TEN-155's ATM infrastructure: > http://www.tbit.dk/quantum/ip6.html > Currently the participants are all National Research Networks, and > unfortunately BELNET doesn't seem to be one of them. Well, it would be nice if we could have peering with these networks. ;-) > I agree that some coordination would be useful to reduce routing > absurdities like the one you observed, but this seems quite hard given > the way the 6BONE is organized (very loosely). I think the 6BONE is > more useful as a platform for experimentation and interoperability > testing than for production-quality packet transport over the globe. True, but it would be nice to know -if I get very bad response-times from a newly-installed web-proxy; if that is due to the proxy or due to basic network-problems. (;-)) Anycase, there is always the possibility to set up bilatural peering between 6bone-networks when it makes sence (like if there already good IPV4-connectivity). Anycase, that how it is done on IPv4: find out to what network you have bad connectivity and you try to get peering with them. In the IPv4-work, you can only do this went your both on a common Internet-Exchange. In IPv6, you just tunnel over v4, so it should actually be easier. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=belgacomgroup,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) International Connectivity kristoff@belbone.net fax: +32 2 2435122 From david.harmelin@dante.org.uk Thu Nov 16 09:34:33 2000 From: david.harmelin@dante.org.uk (David Harmelin) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:34:33 +0000 Subject: IPv6-only reachable (web)-site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20001116092710.00c31660@alpha.dante.org.uk> > > > Isn't there any co-operation on European level for this kind of stuff? > > > (e.g. ten-155?) > > TF-TANT (the experimental side of TEN-155/Quantum) runs an IPv6 > > network, mostly over TEN-155's ATM infrastructure: > > http://www.tbit.dk/quantum/ip6.html > > Currently the participants are all National Research Networks, and > > unfortunately BELNET doesn't seem to be one of them. >Well, it would be nice if we could have peering with these networks. ;-) > Actually, BELNET has just recently been connected to QTPv6 (the TEN-155 IPv6 testbed). BELNET contact: Marc Roger The list at http://www.tbit.dk/quantum/participants.html needs to be updated. DH. ___________________________________________________________________ * * David Harmelin Network Engineer * * DANCERT Representative * Francis House * 112 Hills Road Tel +44 1223 302992 * Cambridge CB2 1PQ Fax +44 1223 303005 D A N T E United Kingdom WWW http://www.dante.net ____________________________________________________________________ From wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu Thu Nov 16 20:31:49 2000 From: wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu (Wes Horner) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:31:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sounds very strange to you maybe but.. ehmm the tech previews which > microsoft supply kinda have a small wininet.dll and guess what that does > to your Internet Explorer... yep.. it makes it IPv6 capable... > And all those "standard" tools like telnet etc are included too.. but > hey... don't mind that... there is even a nice example source which > comes along with it to show how to use the IPv6 stuff. Ok I guess I should have been more clear. I actually have windows 2000. I keep calling it NT. Anyway, explorer doesn't seem to have ipv6 capabilites on that platform after installing the stack. The docs talk mainly about the tools that come with the stack. This is a version that was released in may. There may be a new stack by now. wes From hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn Fri Nov 17 18:18:44 2000 From: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn (Wu Haisang) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:18:44 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D7=AA=B7=A2:_WINDOWS_NT__OR__SUN_SOLARIS=3F=3F?= Message-ID: Hi, About Microsoft IPv6 stack, pls browse http://www.research.microsoft.com/msripv6, you can get more info about their work, which I think is quite compatible with Win2000. I have been using FreeBSD since the birth of IPv6. FreeBSD2.x+ KAME, FreeBSD3.x+KAME, or +INRIA are pretty good. Since FreeBSD4.x, KAME is embedded into the stack, which gives this OS much better performance. Linux can support IPv6 with needed modules added. To begin with IPv6, maybe FreeBSD is a good point. And, MSR has its MSRIPv6 released 1.4 free to download on website, the source code is very good. But the Win2000 Technical preview (000925 updated) is made by product group, so only binary is availabe. Hope to be useful. Haisang ______________________________________________ Haisang Wu CERNET IPv6 Testbed Operation Team Central Mainbuilding Room 307 Tsinghua University Beijing P.R.China Zipcode: 100084 Phone: 62785814-525(O) BP: 191-1134725 email: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn ______________________________________________ > -----????----- > ???: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]?? Wes Horner > ????: 2000?11?16? 12:32 > ???: Jeroen Massar > ??: M?Carmen Medina; 6bone@ISI.EDU > ??: Re: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? > > > > Sounds very strange to you maybe but.. ehmm the tech previews which > > microsoft supply kinda have a small wininet.dll and guess what that does > > to your Internet Explorer... yep.. it makes it IPv6 capable... > > And all those "standard" tools like telnet etc are included too.. but > > hey... don't mind that... there is even a nice example source which > > comes along with it to show how to use the IPv6 stuff. > > > Ok I guess I should have been more clear. I actually have windows > 2000. I keep calling it NT. Anyway, explorer doesn't seem to have ipv6 > capabilites on that platform after installing the stack. The docs talk > mainly about the tools that come with the stack. This is a version that > was released in may. There may be a new stack by now. > > > wes > From wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu Fri Nov 17 05:53:16 2000 From: wesman@resnet.uoregon.edu (Wes Horner) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:53:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: WINDOWS NT OR SUN SOLARIS?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > What I'm keen to see is a Java IPv6-enabled API. Is anyone working on > one? (Sun may be, but it seems to keep getting delayed...) I wonder if > MS or IBM might do so...? Sun claims that by the end of next year java will be ipv6 enabled as will most if not all of their products. I must confess that I haven't seen a lot of demand for it yet so I'm sure they aren't rushing. wes From bs@posix.co.za Fri Nov 17 08:20:16 2000 From: bs@posix.co.za (Byron Sorgdrager) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:20:16 GMT Subject: Examples Message-ID: <20001117.8201600@firestar.posix.co.za> Hi there, Would anyone be so kind as to maybe post their network layout, (router setups/LAN setups/gateways etc.) to the list ? The reason for this is to check and see what each person has, and maybe find a "good common practise" based on "real-life" scenarios in order to implement a stable network environment. Any willing people out there ? Kind Regards, Byron Sorgdrager Posix Systems Pty Ltd. From fink@es.net Fri Nov 17 17:55:08 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:55:08 -0800 Subject: 6bone pTLA 3FFE:80F0::/28 allocated to ZAMA Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001117095100.0325dc70@imap2.es.net> ZAMA has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:80F0::/28 having finished its 2-week review period with no negative comments. Note that it will take a short while for their inet6num object to show up as they have to create it. However, their registration is listed on: Thanks, Bob From fink@es.net Fri Nov 17 17:55:04 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:55:04 -0800 Subject: 6bone pTLA 3FFE:8100::/28 allocated to EURONET-BE Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001117095336.03167ed0@imap2.es.net> EURONET-BE has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:8100::/28 having finished its 2-week review period with no negative comments. Note that it will take a short while for their inet6num object to show up as they have to create it. However, their registration is listed on: Thanks, Bob From erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Sun Nov 19 23:11:57 2000 From: erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Enno Rey) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:11:57 +0100 Subject: Sample config for cisco router Message-ID: Hi, I'm currently preparing a presentation about IPv6. For the practical part, there will be a either a 2503 (running c2500-p-mz.v6) or a 3620 (running c3620-tipv6-mz.19990308) involved. I'm not able to find any sample configuration on cco. Anybody got any pointers? Thanks & regards, Enno Rey erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de PGP 74C0 C7E1 3875 E4EB 9B75 8B9D 5E2D 3178 685B F222 From oliver.michael@gargantuan.com Mon Nov 20 02:59:01 2000 From: oliver.michael@gargantuan.com (Michael W. Oliver) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:59:01 -0500 Subject: Sample config for cisco router Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C05273.EC8C0590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could go to freenet6.net and request a tunnel using a Cisco router, and they will generate a configuration for you. I hope that this helps. = Michael W. Oliver = mailto:oliver.michael@gargantuan.com = http://michael.gargantuan.com/ = Page me at mailto:1570482@skytel.com = ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: Enno Rey [mailto:erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 6:12 PM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Sample config for cisco router Hi, I'm currently preparing a presentation about IPv6. For the practical part, there will be a either a 2503 (running c2500-p-mz.v6) or a 3620 (running c3620-tipv6-mz.19990308) involved. I'm not able to find any sample configuration on cco. Anybody got any pointers? 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For the practical part, > there will be a either a 2503 (running c2500-p-mz.v6) or a 3620 (running > c3620-tipv6-mz.19990308) involved. I'm not able to find any sample > configuration on cco. > Anybody got any pointers? > > Thanks & regards, Here is an example of cisco's configuration with an ipv6 tunnel over ipv4: ipv6 unicast-routing ! interface Tunnel1 ipv6 enable ipv6 address /127 tunnel source Ethernet1/0 tunnel destination tunnel mode ipv6ip ! interface Ethernet1/1 ipv6 enable ipv6 address / ! ipv6 route 3FFE::/16 Tunnel1 It would be suffisent. Regards, -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net / France Telecom Transpac From mjoseph@cisco.com Mon Nov 20 07:06:35 2000 From: mjoseph@cisco.com (Mathew Joseph) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:06:35 -0800 Subject: Sample config for cisco router In-Reply-To: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> References: Message-ID: <200011200710.AAF13918@overnight.cisco.com> Hi Enno, You can also mail your ipv6 specific queries to . It may be of greater help for your presentation. Thanks Mathew Joseph At 07:31 AM 11/20/00 +0100, Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm currently preparing a presentation about IPv6. For the practical part, >> there will be a either a 2503 (running c2500-p-mz.v6) or a 3620 (running >> c3620-tipv6-mz.19990308) involved. I'm not able to find any sample >> configuration on cco. >> Anybody got any pointers? >> >> Thanks & regards, > >Here is an example of cisco's configuration with an ipv6 tunnel over >ipv4: > >ipv6 unicast-routing >! >interface Tunnel1 > ipv6 enable > ipv6 address /127 > tunnel source Ethernet1/0 > tunnel destination > tunnel mode ipv6ip >! >interface Ethernet1/1 > ipv6 enable > ipv6 address / >! >ipv6 route 3FFE::/16 Tunnel1 > >It would be suffisent. > >Regards, >-- >Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net / France Telecom Transpac > From erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Mon Nov 20 10:41:11 2000 From: erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Enno Rey) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:41:11 +0100 Subject: Sample config for cisco router Message-ID: Hi, thanks to all who replied. I think I got enough input to get them up & running. As I said: Thanks & regards, Enno Rey erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de PGP 74C0 C7E1 3875 E4EB 9B75 8B9D 5E2D 3178 685B F222 From John Wright Mon Nov 20 10:42:37 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:42:37 +0000 Subject: Sample config for cisco router In-Reply-To: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net>; from jch@oleane.net on Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 07:31:28AM +0100 References: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> Message-ID: <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org> Can you run a rtadv on a Cisco? On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 07:31:28AM +0100, Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm currently preparing a presentation about IPv6. For the practical part, > > there will be a either a 2503 (running c2500-p-mz.v6) or a 3620 (running > > c3620-tipv6-mz.19990308) involved. I'm not able to find any sample > > configuration on cco. > > Anybody got any pointers? > > > > Thanks & regards, From rzm@icm.edu.pl Mon Nov 20 12:33:37 2000 From: rzm@icm.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:37 +0100 Subject: IPv6/ATM - how? In-Reply-To: <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org>; from john@dryfish.org on Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:42:37AM +0000 References: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org> Message-ID: <20001120133337.C8880@burza.icm.edu.pl> Which protocol (MPOA, LANE, IPv4/CLIP, ...) is normally used on IPv6 ATM point to point links? In Cisco Commands.txt.19991126 file I see such example int atm1/0 atm pvc 1 aal5snap map-group foo map-list foo ipv6 5F00:6D00::5 atm-vc 1 In TEN-155 Telebit router configuration http://www.tbit.dk/quantum/router-info/coreconf.html there are entries like # IPv6 OVER ATM, WAN INTERFACE [...] ip access ACOnet -local 3ffe:8038:80:1::1 -peer 3ffe:8038:80:1::2 -mtu 9180 ip atunnel -encapsulation 2 -vci 99 ip bgp -peer 3ffe:8038:80:1::2 -ipv6 -rfc2283 1 start bgp What is 'atunnel'? I plan to run long distance IPv6/ATM and I wonder what is the most appropriate protocol. It could be e.g. Linux-Telebit or Linux-Cisco connection so interoperabity is important. Now I see tunneling IPv6/IPv4/CLIP as the only alternative. RFC 2492 seems to be something what could be used instead of tunneling, kind of IPv6 CLIP but it is not implemented on Linux. Running long distance LANE can be administratively difficult for us. I still do not understand MPOA enough to know if it could an option here. Please correct my mistakes, share your wisdom. R. -- W iskier krzesaniu ¿ywem/Materia³ to rzecz g³ówna From narten@raleigh.ibm.com Mon Nov 20 14:46:24 2000 From: narten@raleigh.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:46:24 -0500 Subject: Internet Protocol Version 6 Workshop In-Reply-To: Message from Jeff Williams of "Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:08:32 PST." <3A1638FF.F072E677@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <200011201446.JAA01145@hygro.adsl.duke.edu> Jeff Williams writes: > A little over a year ago, there was some heated debate (I was > involved) regarding the Privacy concerns with IPv6. Most of this > is do to two problems. One being the "Autoconfig" for implementation > specification for IPv6, the other is the "Always On" feature of IPv6. > The implementation (Autoconfig as default) was and remains that > biggest problem with respect to Privacy issues. (Autoconfig) should > not be default was my argument for implementation. I also suggested > several changes to the Spec for Autoconfig for consideration. But > the majority of the group felt that being able to track folks easily > was more important. I found this astounding. This characterization of past IPng WG discussions is most definitely false and at best a gross distortion of past discussions. At no time that I can recall has the WG ever argued that "tracking folks" is a desirable goal. It is also completely inconsistent with the WG's recent decision to recommend that the IESG publish draft-ietf-ipngwg-addrconf-privacy-03.txt as a Proposed Standard. Thomas From marcelo@it.uc3m.es Tue Nov 21 10:20:07 2000 From: marcelo@it.uc3m.es (marcelo) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:20:07 +0100 Subject: Sample config for cisco router References: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org> Message-ID: <3A1A4C56.BBEA766@it.uc3m.es> Hi, I am trying to build a 6to4 tunnel. What do you think I should use? I would prefer to use something that runs on Linux but I could also use FreeBSD or even Windows. Thanks, m From bs@posix.co.za Tue Nov 21 15:12:41 2000 From: bs@posix.co.za (Byron Sorgdrager) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:12:41 GMT Subject: Fwd: Re: Sample config for cisco router Message-ID: <20001121.15124100@firestar.posix.co.za> Hi there, Hop onto www.freenet6.net - they explain tunnels rather well :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/21/00, 12:20:07 PM, marcelo wrote regarding Re: Sample config for cisco router: > Hi, > I am trying to build a 6to4 tunnel. > What do you think I should use? > I would prefer to use something that runs on Linux but I could also use FreeBSD or > even Windows. > Thanks, m From bs@posix.co.za Tue Nov 21 15:16:33 2000 From: bs@posix.co.za (Byron Sorgdrager) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:16:33 GMT Subject: Network Maps [WAS: Examples] Message-ID: <20001121.15163300@firestar.posix.co.za> Hi all, a BIG thankyou to everyone who sent in replies !! I am currently developing a South African based ipv6 site, to help pretty much Africa to get things working, or at least make them aware of Ipv6 ... and the info I've collected and received on this list, should prove to be quite usefull. Kind Regards, Byron Sorgdrager -- IP v6 or not v6 - THAT is the question ... From haberman@nortelnetworks.com Tue Nov 21 12:53:48 2000 From: haberman@nortelnetworks.com (Brian Haberman) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:53:48 -0500 Subject: Internet Protocol Version 6 Workshop References: <200011201446.JAA01145@hygro.adsl.duke.edu> <3A1A02D3.58EF7E4D@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <3A1A705C.86B8000D@nortelnetworks.com> Jeff, Make up your mind. Is it two members of the mailing list OR a majority of the working group? BIG difference. Brian Haberman Jeff Williams wrote: > > Thomas and all, > > I am sorry I must respectfully disagree with you here Thomas. > I specifically had a running debate with two members of the Ipng > list members discussing this issue. > > Thomas Narten wrote: > > > Jeff Williams writes: > > > > > A little over a year ago, there was some heated debate (I was > > > involved) regarding the Privacy concerns with IPv6. Most of this > > > is do to two problems. One being the "Autoconfig" for implementation > > > specification for IPv6, the other is the "Always On" feature of IPv6. > > > The implementation (Autoconfig as default) was and remains that > > > biggest problem with respect to Privacy issues. (Autoconfig) should > > > not be default was my argument for implementation. I also suggested > > > several changes to the Spec for Autoconfig for consideration. But > > > the majority of the group felt that being able to track folks easily > > > was more important. I found this astounding. > > > > This characterization of past IPng WG discussions is most definitely > > false and at best a gross distortion of past discussions. At no time > > that I can recall has the WG ever argued that "tracking folks" is a > > desirable goal. It is also completely inconsistent with the WG's > > recent decision to recommend that the IESG publish > > draft-ietf-ipngwg-addrconf-privacy-03.txt as a Proposed Standard. > > > > Thomas > > Regards, > > -- > Jeffrey A. Williams > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!) > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com > Contact Number: 972-447-1800 x1894 or 9236 fwd's to home ph# > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List > IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng > FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng > Direct all administrative requests to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------- From jch@oleane.net Tue Nov 21 17:49:05 2000 From: jch@oleane.net (Jean-Claude Christophe) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:49:05 +0100 Subject: Sample config for cisco router In-Reply-To: <3A1A4C56.BBEA766@it.uc3m.es>; from marcelo@it.uc3m.es on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:20:07AM +0100 References: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org> <3A1A4C56.BBEA766@it.uc3m.es> Message-ID: <20001121184905.Y21555@oleane.net> > I am trying to build a 6to4 tunnel. > What do you think I should use? > I would prefer to use something that runs on Linux but I could also use FreeBSD or > even Windows. Choose the most comfortable system for you. -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net / France Telecom Transpac From nate@thebog.net Tue Nov 21 19:19:17 2000 From: nate@thebog.net (Nathan Thompson) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:19:17 -0500 Subject: Sample config for cisco router In-Reply-To: <3A1A4C56.BBEA766@it.uc3m.es>; from marcelo on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:20:07AM +0100 References: <20001120073128.H21555@oleane.net> <20001120104237.F1068@dryfish.org> <3A1A4C56.BBEA766@it.uc3m.es> Message-ID: <20001121141917.A7064@eliot.thebog.net> On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:20:07AM +0100, marcelo wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to build a 6to4 tunnel. > What do you think I should use? > I would prefer to use something that runs on Linux but I could also use FreeBSD or > even Windows. > Thanks, m Hi, Linux doesn't currently support 6to4, but i have a patch to implement it if you are interested... It works for me. Nate > From mes@capelazo.com Tue Nov 21 20:01:42 2000 From: mes@capelazo.com (Mark Sutton) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:01:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tunnel Request Message-ID: Hi, I have looked through the who-is database and traced some routes to possible access points. The closest seems to be ipv6-gw1.pa-x.dec.com at 16 hops and ~60ms. bah.isi.edu is pretty good at 18 and ~65ms. Verio in Seattle would seem like a logical choice but requires a trip to California and back. I have not contacted anyone directly yet, since I thought someone with more knowledge of the actual infrastructure could make a better assessment than a few simple trace-routes. My address is 24.67.152.12 although my official static is 24.67.152.253 I have not configured it yet. I have contacted Shaw, my ISP, but the person who felt qualified to answer, has obviously never heard of 6bone. If I expect nothing but routing packets from them, I'm very pleased with their service. Mark From Jae.Lee@intelsat.int Tue Nov 21 22:28:02 2000 From: Jae.Lee@intelsat.int (Jae.Lee@intelsat.int) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:28:02 -0500 Subject: Cisco router, NAT, and IPv6 tunnel. Message-ID: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F933@admex1.adm.intelsat.int> Hi, I have a simple question. I have a Cisco router that I'd like to connect to Freenet6. The problem is that I have to use NAT on the router and IOS does not appear to support IPv6 and NAT on the same version/release - even the latest beta release dated June, this year doesn't seem to support it. Any suggestions or solutions? Thank you for your help in advance. Sincerely, Jae H. Lee ____ Jae H. LEE / Communications Engineer INTELSAT 3400 International Drive NW, Washington DC 20008-3006, USA Tel: +1-202-944-7498 / Email: Jae.Lee@INTELSAT.int From bmanning@ISI.EDU Tue Nov 21 23:50:58 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:50:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: BOUNCE 6bone@zephyr.isi.edu: Non-member submission from [ksb ] In-Reply-To: <200011220032.QAA08397@zephyr.isi.edu> from "owner-6bone@ISI.EDU" at Nov 21, 2000 04:32:28 PM Message-ID: <200011212350.PAA14940@zed.isi.edu> % There are 13 IPv4 DNS root servers in the world. % US has 10 DNS root servers. Sweden has 1 DNS % root server. British England has 1 DNS root server. % Japan has 1 DNS root server. % % I hope to know how to construct IPv6 DNS root % servers. % I don't know the ICANN policy for IPv6 DNS root % severs. % % Will you help me? % % Thank you. % % -- % Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom % TEL : +82-42-870-8322 % FAX : +82-42-870-8279 % E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr % -- There is a testbed of IPv6 root servers. Further information ought to be available after the upcoming IETF. -- --bill From rzm@icm.edu.pl Wed Nov 22 13:43:34 2000 From: rzm@icm.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:43:34 +0100 Subject: Tunnel Request In-Reply-To: ; from mes@capelazo.com on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:01:42PM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20001122144334.T8880@burza.icm.edu.pl> On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:01:42PM -0800, Mark Sutton wrote: > Hi, I have looked through the who-is database and traced some routes > to possible access points. The closest seems to be ipv6-gw1.pa-x.dec.com at > 16 hops and ~60ms. bah.isi.edu is pretty good at 18 and ~65ms. Verio in > Seattle would seem like a logical choice but requires a trip to California > and back. I have not contacted anyone directly yet, since I thought someone > with more knowledge of the actual infrastructure could make a better > assessment than a few simple trace-routes. My address is 24.67.152.12 Maybe my scripts will be useful for somebody. They produce list pTLA and non-pTLA 6BONE routers sorted according to # of hops and rtt and including packets loss. Input: ftp://whois.6bone.net/6bone/6bone.db.gz scripts: ftp://ftp.6bone.pl/pub/ipv6/misc/6distance-20000215.tar.gz sample output: ftp://ftp.6bone.pl/pub/ipv6/conf/routers ftp://ftp.6bone.pl/pub/ipv6/conf/routers.ptla I am also using just traceroute and ping. There are no docs and there are some assumptions concerning traceroute output etc. I was running it all on Linux RH 6.x. R. -- W iskier krzesaniu ¿ywem/Materia³ to rzecz g³ówna From fink@es.net Wed Nov 22 14:59:46 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:59:46 -0800 Subject: 6bone webpage updates. In-Reply-To: <20001122092911.8B5D17E1F@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001122065757.02fb3240@imap2.es.net> Itojun, At 06:29 PM 11/22/2000 +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > there seem to be some obsolete links on 6bone webpage. > i tried to sweep some of those. Thanks. I'll look into it and update pages appropriately. Bob >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_stats.html > BME-FSZ/HU (both): page does not exist, or reachability issue > CSR4/IT: page does not exist > DIGITAL/AU: obsolete (last update sep1997!) > JOIN/DE: looks obsolete, last update is jan2000 > NIST/US: page does not exist > POLITO/IT: page not available. http://www.ipv6.polito.it/ has some > item in italian. > STACKEN/SE: perl script died with error - not sure what happened > TICL/UK: unreachable > TRUMPET/AU: working, but has Y2K issue :-) s/100/2000/ should do > >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_tools.html > GALAKTIK traceroute: no longer available > BME-FSZ/HU: unavailable > G6/FR: unavailable > >http://www.6bone.net/contact.html > alain is now with Sun:-) From Jae.Lee@intelsat.int Wed Nov 22 19:16:52 2000 From: Jae.Lee@intelsat.int (Jae.Lee@intelsat.int) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:16:52 -0500 Subject: Block of experimental addresses please... Message-ID: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F939@admex1.adm.intelsat.int> Thanks to all the responses you sent me, now I have a router that talks to Freenet6. The latest Cisco beta image (*-is-mz.20001101) has NAT and IPv6 support together. Now that I have my gateway setup, I would like to grab a block of IPv6 addresses. So far I have been using IPv6 addresses on my private network. However, now that I am connected to the outside world, I realize I should get a block of unique routable addresses. I haven't tried my ISP, but my ISP isn't ready to provide IPv6 yet and I suppose I could get some experimental blocks. Could someone help me, please? Thank you in advance and happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, - Jae From erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Wed Nov 22 23:06:50 2000 From: erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Enno Rey) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:06:50 +0100 Subject: Cisco router, NAT, and IPv6 tunnel. In-Reply-To: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F933@admex1.adm.intelsat.int> Message-ID: Jae, maybe the section about NAT in www.6bone.rnp.br/config/Commands.txt might help you. Though I'm not sure if it works. Could you please give us feedback? Regards, Enno Rey erey@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de PGP 74C0 C7E1 3875 E4EB 9B75 8B9D 5E2D 3178 685B F222 -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Jae.Lee@intelsat.int Sent: Dienstag, 21. November 2000 23:28 To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: Cisco router, NAT, and IPv6 tunnel. Hi, I have a simple question. I have a Cisco router that I'd like to connect to Freenet6. The problem is that I have to use NAT on the router and IOS does not appear to support IPv6 and NAT on the same version/release - even the latest beta release dated June, this year doesn't seem to support it. Any suggestions or solutions? Thank you for your help in advance. Sincerely, Jae H. Lee ____ Jae H. LEE / Communications Engineer INTELSAT 3400 International Drive NW, Washington DC 20008-3006, USA Tel: +1-202-944-7498 / Email: Jae.Lee@INTELSAT.int From twarwick@cisco.com Thu Nov 23 10:43:46 2000 From: twarwick@cisco.com (Trevor Warwick) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:43:46 +0000 Subject: Cisco router, NAT, and IPv6 tunnel. In-Reply-To: References: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F933@admex1.adm.intelsat.int> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001123103311.01fdf8f8@jaws.cisco.com> At 22/11/2000, Enno Rey wrote: >Jae, > >maybe the section about NAT in > >www.6bone.rnp.br/config/Commands.txt > >might help you. Though I'm not sure if it works. Could you please give us >feedback? NAT-PT is not supported in the current version of the Cisco IOS IPv6 implementation. A partial implementation was included in an earlier 11.x based Beta release (images called *.19990308 available on www.cisco.com/go/ipv6), but it has not been supported in any 12.x based images. There is a team working on NAT-PT, and support will be released as part of Phase 2 of IPv6. The IPv6 Statement of Direction on the web page contains full details of what's planned for the various phases. Please send questions about Beta or EFT IPv6 support to ipv6-support@cisco.com if you want to get definitive answers to questions about IPv6 in Cisco IOS. -- Trevor Warwick Cisco IOS Software Development Manager, Stockley Park, London Tel: +44 (0)20 8756 9688 From pcurran@ticl.co.uk Thu Nov 23 18:51:47 2000 From: pcurran@ticl.co.uk (Peter Curran) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:51:47 -0000 Subject: 6bone webpage updates. References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001122065757.02fb3240@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <006001c0557e$6f02f940$ee01a8c0@mobile> I see I made it onto your list of bum sites :-( Our v6 server has died with a memory problem - when I get a few hours I will put it back together again. Probably next week. Cheers Peter Curran TICL/UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Fink" To: "Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino" Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: 6bone webpage updates. > Itojun, > > At 06:29 PM 11/22/2000 +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > there seem to be some obsolete links on 6bone webpage. > > i tried to sweep some of those. > > Thanks. I'll look into it and update pages appropriately. > > > Bob > > >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_stats.html > > BME-FSZ/HU (both): page does not exist, or reachability issue > > CSR4/IT: page does not exist > > DIGITAL/AU: obsolete (last update sep1997!) > > JOIN/DE: looks obsolete, last update is jan2000 > > NIST/US: page does not exist > > POLITO/IT: page not available. http://www.ipv6.polito.it/ has some > > item in italian. > > STACKEN/SE: perl script died with error - not sure what happened > > TICL/UK: unreachable > > TRUMPET/AU: working, but has Y2K issue :-) s/100/2000/ should do > > > >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_tools.html > > GALAKTIK traceroute: no longer available > > BME-FSZ/HU: unavailable > > G6/FR: unavailable > > > >http://www.6bone.net/contact.html > > alain is now with Sun:-) > > From ipng@uni-muenster.de Fri Nov 24 07:27:14 2000 From: ipng@uni-muenster.de (JOIN Project Team) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:27:14 +0100 (MET) Subject: 6bone webpage updates. In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001122065757.02fb3240@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: All, Bob, On 22-Nov-2000 Bob Fink wrote: > Itojun, > > At 06:29 PM 11/22/2000 +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: >> there seem to be some obsolete links on 6bone webpage. >> i tried to sweep some of those. > > Thanks. I'll look into it and update pages appropriately. > > > Bob > >>http://www.6bone.net/6bone_stats.html >> BME-FSZ/HU (both): page does not exist, or reachability issue >> CSR4/IT: page does not exist >> DIGITAL/AU: obsolete (last update sep1997!) >> JOIN/DE: looks obsolete, last update is jan2000 If you don't know, the JOIN webpages moved in january this year, the new main page is http://www.join.uni-muenster.de/welcome-e.html , resp. http://www.ipv6.uni-muenster.de/welcome-e.html for IPv6 access. The new location of the ping statistics page is http://www.join.uni-muenster.de/6bone/ping-list-e.html . There are more operating statistics, but those pages are only accessible in german language so far. Christian -- JOIN -- IP Version 6 in the WiN Christian Schild A DFN project Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster Project Team email: Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung join@uni-muenster.de Roentgenstrasse 9-13 http://www.join.uni-muenster.de D-48149 Muenster / Germany email: schild@uni-muenster.de, phone: +49 251 83 31638, fax: +49 251 83 31653 From apj@wol.dk Fri Nov 24 12:09:03 2000 From: apj@wol.dk (WOL - Andreas Plesner Jacobsen) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:09:03 +0100 Subject: Block of experimental addresses please... In-Reply-To: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F939@admex1.adm.intelsat.int>; from Jae.Lee@intelsat.int on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 02:16:52PM -0500 References: <490B4C213EC8D211851F00105A29CA5A07A1F939@admex1.adm.intelsat.int> Message-ID: <20001124130903.A29839@wol.dk> On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 02:16:52PM -0500, Jae.Lee@intelsat.int wrote: > The latest Cisco beta image (*-is-mz.20001101) has NAT and IPv6 support > together. Huh? Where did you find this, I can only find .199911xx images, both on the webpage and on the ftp in ios/beta/galing/nextlevel -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Andreas Plesner Jacobsen (System Administrator) / World Online Denmark A/S Peter Bangs Vej 26, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Tlf. (+45) 38 14 70 00 - Fax (+45) 38 14 70 07 From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Fri Nov 24 13:22:28 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:22:28 +0100 Subject: IPv6/ATM - how? In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:37 +0100. <20001120133337.C8880@burza.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <200011241322.OAA29174@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: Which protocol (MPOA, LANE, IPv4/CLIP, ...) is normally used on IPv6 ATM point to point links? => you can use some encapsulation on PVC (usually AAL5 SNAP, aka RFC 1483), LANE (which is transparent) or RFC 2492 (but RFC 2492 implementations are *very* uncommon). I think you should use AAL5 SNAP on PVC because it is the easiest and the most common. In Cisco Commands.txt.19991126 file I see such example int atm1/0 atm pvc 1 aal5snap map-group foo map-list foo ipv6 5F00:6D00::5 atm-vc 1 => this is AAL5 SNAP over PVCs. In TEN-155 Telebit router configuration http://www.tbit.dk/quantum/router-info/coreconf.html there are entries like # IPv6 OVER ATM, WAN INTERFACE [...] ip access ACOnet -local 3ffe:8038:80:1::1 -peer 3ffe:8038:80:1::2 -mtu 9180 ip atunnel -encapsulation 2 -vci 99 ip bgp -peer 3ffe:8038:80:1::2 -ipv6 -rfc2283 1 start bgp What is 'atunnel'? => my Telebit documentation is not open but I believe this is the symmetric of the Cisco example. I plan to run long distance IPv6/ATM and I wonder what is the most appropriate protocol. => for long distance you should use some kind of PVCs... It could be e.g. Linux-Telebit or Linux-Cisco connection so interoperabity is important. => then static AAL5 SNAP over PVCs is the way to go. Now I see tunneling IPv6/IPv4/CLIP as the only alternative. => don't joke. The cell tax is enough... RFC 2492 seems to be something what could be used instead of tunneling, kind of IPv6 CLIP but it is not implemented on Linux. => I confirm. And RFC 2492 is more for LANs than WANs (ie. as in CLIP no QoS is associated to SVCs). Running long distance LANE can be administratively difficult for us. I still do not understand MPOA enough to know if it could an option here. => I disagree, you understand MPOA enough (:-)! Regards Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS: there are many IPv6 over ATM in Europe for long distance connections (for instance the new G6 infrastructure or the Ten-155 IPv6 testbed). You should find easily some help as the same equipments (Cisco, Telebit and Linux) are commonly used. From Alessandro.Ren@vantcom.net Fri Nov 24 17:41:50 2000 From: Alessandro.Ren@vantcom.net (Alessandro Motter Ren) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:41:50 -0300 Subject: Just stablished the tunel. Message-ID: <01D7D58C21A6D411954E00508B2F123EA227@paecmmtp3> Could someone please ping the site ipv6.vantcom.net. I've just stablished a IPv6<->IPv4 tunnel and I'd like to know if everythin is working properly. Thanks. Alessandro Ren Network Team Vant Communications From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Fri Nov 24 18:04:44 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:04:44 +0100 Subject: IPv6 DNS Root Server In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:35:20 +0900. <3A1B14C7.C36E7CCB@kt.co.kr> Message-ID: <200011241804.TAA30926@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: There are 13 IPv4 DNS root servers in the world. US has 10 DNS root servers. Sweden has 1 DNS root server. British England has 1 DNS root server. => this is wrong, RIPE has 1 DNS root server and asked RIPE NCC to find a good place to put it (this place is in England). Japan has 1 DNS root server. I hope to know how to construct IPv6 DNS root servers. I don't know the ICANN policy for IPv6 DNS root servers. => there is at least someone who works on this. We should get good news rather soon (perhaps at San Diego)? Regards Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS: IMHO DNS root servers should run dual-stacks. From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Mon Nov 27 18:29:39 2000 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:29:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Routing oddity towards LANCS Message-ID: All, I was looking to connect to ftp.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk to grab some linux net-tools upgrades using IPv6, when I discovered the host was unreachable. OK, so I tried a traceroute. There seems to be a routing loop someplace: crc-ipv6#traceroute 3FFE:2101:0:C00::5 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3FFE:2101:0:C00::5 1 3FFE:401:0:1::9:2 96 msec 3FFE:80A0:0:F000::1 92 msec * 2 3FFE:1001:1:F013::1 236 msec 228 msec * 3 6bone-gw2.ipv6.cselt.it (3FFE:1001:1:100::1) 300 msec 324 msec * 4 uunet-uk-if.6bone-gw.ipv6.isi.edu (3FFE:1100:0:CC02::2) 656 msec 824 msec * 5 3FFE:800::FFFD:0:0:A 764 msec 760 msec 752 msec 6 3FFE:2E00:E:C::3 808 msec 836 msec 852 msec 7 6bone-gw-merit.ipv6.sics.se (3FFE:200:1:14::1) 1048 msec 956 msec 936 msec 8 6bone-gw.6bone.pl (3FFE:200:1:A::2) 872 msec 1012 msec 1020 msec 9 3FFE:2200:0:800B::2 1200 msec * 1076 msec 10 3FFE:2200:0:800B::1 1196 msec 1076 msec 1052 msec 11 3FFE:2200:0:800B::2 1508 msec 1476 msec 1788 msec 12 3FFE:2200:0:800B::1 1360 msec * 1424 msec 13 * 3FFE:2200:0:800B::2 2020 msec * Who's dat? wfms From dave@tap.net Mon Nov 27 23:24:04 2000 From: dave@tap.net (Dave Wiese) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:24:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: RIPv6/RIPng In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, Does anyone have any cisco configs for rip over ipv6? I've been trying to make it work for a little while with no success. I have a 2621 running IOS 12.0. I discovered the problem that you have to have ripv2 running first, but now that the process is starting it is sending routes with a metric of 16 which are being ignored at the other side. I can make the default route propegate properly, so i know that it is working in that respect. Thanx. Also, Is IOS 12.1 availiable? Dave dave@tap.net From warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU Wed Nov 29 23:13:10 2000 From: warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Warren Matthews) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:13:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: nic-hdl Message-ID: How does one request/create a 6bone nic-handle ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warren Matthews If ease of use was the highest goal, Principal Network Specialist we'd all be driving golf carts. Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. - Larry Wall. From fink@es.net Thu Nov 30 01:18:03 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:18:03 -0800 Subject: nic-hdl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001129171510.02ddfb80@imap2.es.net> Warren, At 03:13 PM 11/29/2000 -0800, Warren Matthews wrote: >How does one request/create a 6bone nic-handle ? Use the Viagenie web i/f. I think it will tell you. But make sure you read the first link on new user info as it lets you know you need a CRYPT protected mntner object first. Bob From fink@es.net Thu Nov 30 20:03:58 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:03:58 -0800 Subject: INTOUCH-NL 6bone pTLA request - closes 15 Dec Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001130115857.0d6d7920@imap2.es.net> INTOUCH-NL has requested a pTLA. The closing date for the comment period will be 15 December (just after the IETF meetings). PLease send comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob === >From: Pim van Pelt >Subject: pTLA for Intouch (NL) >To: fink@es.net >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:08:54 +0100 (CET) > >Dear Bob, > >In followup to a brief discussion we had earlier regarding BGP peering >from my router in Amsterdam (ams-ix) to others in the 6bone, you suggested >requesting a pTLA. Here goes. > >I have entered some mntner object into the database and am waiting >confirmation, and will then administer all other requested objects. Pending >this registration, here's my application mail. I hope it suffices. > >Sincerely yours, >Pim van Pelt > >-- > >1a. >There are currently 3 inet6nums assigned to Intouch (3ffe:3001:6::/48 from >the AMSIX and 2001:658:{200,205}::/48 from TRANSMEDIA-DE). >I have been providing connectivity to some 70 companies and individuals, >and am currently feeding all these tunnels into the 6bone. It should be >taken care of as soon as I have my mntner object ready. > >1b. >INTOUCH-NL has a moderately large IPv4 networking status in The Netherlands. >Currelty we exchange the full BGP tables under AS8954 with: >1. AS3333 ops@ripe.net >2. AS8608 peering@nl.gxn.net >3. AS5496 peering@wirehub.net >4. AS1103 erik-jan.bos@surfnet.nl >5. AS8918 inoc@carrier1.net, >which can be checked in the RIPE database. The main Cisco 3640 IP is: >212.19.192.218 (ipv6-nikhef.intouch.net) located at the Nikhef building >on AMS-IX. > >Regarding IPv6, we have been running along with the AMS-v6-IX since 1999, >and currently exchange BGP natively under AS8954 with: >1. AS1103 ipv6@surfnet.nl >2. AS1200 ipv6@ams-ix.net >3. AS1890 niels@nl.uu.net >4. AS3333 ops@ripe.net >5. AS5623 Henk.Steenman@icoe.att.com >6. AS8251 promera@cistron.nl >and non-natively with: >AS12573 (WideXS), AS517 (XLINK-UKA), AS2914 (Verio), AS5609 (CSELT) >AS2611 (BELNET-BE), AS8277 (Euronet BE), AS8002 (STEALTH), AS8664 (ICM-PL) >and AS6726 (NEXTRA-SK). >The abovementioned cisco has IPv6 number 3ffe:3000::a500:8954:1 on AMS-v6-IX >shared medium and 3ffe:3001:6::1 on the Intouch side. > >1c. Our primary nameserver is ipv6.intouch.net (212.19.220.17) and backups >for forward/reversed run on: ns1/ns2/ns3.ipng.nl. >The primary runs bind9 and answers queries via IPv4 and IPv6. The secondaries >run bind8 and only answer IPv4. > >1d. There are Open/Net/FreeBSD, Solaris8, Linux(i386/alpha) servers fully >operational at Freeler. Eight servers in total form the test bed of appli- >cation design and maintenence, involving IPv6 deployment. >www.ipng.nl is our main window to the public, offering services to the IPv6 >community, such as BGP lookingglass, ping availability, mrtg graphing and >some dynamic/static tunnelbroker. > >2a. There are currently four people at Intouch working with IPv6. The chief >is Rager Ossel (RO278). I myself am Pim van Pelt (PBVP1-6BONE) and two >helpers >for operational stuff are Cliff Albert (CA2-6BONE) and Wim Vandersmissen >(currently no hdl available). > >2b. We are info@ipng.nl. We will be INTOUCH-NL (ipv6-site) and MNT-INTOUCH >(mntner) >as soon as the information becomes available. > >3. There are several hundred Intouch customers, mostly via leased line or >dial-on-demand ISDN. Several non-intouch customers (widexs.nl/pine.nl) >have requested connectivity via our amsix native connection. > >4. Intouch is willing and able to abide by the current 6bone operational >rules and policies. >-- >---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- >Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl >http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 >-----------------------------------------------