From fink@es.net Tue Feb 1 16:51:38 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:51:38 -0800 Subject: new DNS setup pages for 6bone Hookup info Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000201084807.00c0fcf0@imap2.es.net> 6bone Folk, Yuji Sekiya of ISI has kindly updated the older Bertrand Buclin pages on DNS setup for the 6bone: So take a look and send him any comments you might have. This writeup will be maintained by Yuji, and is now linked into the 6bone hookup page: Thanks (and a special thanks to Yujo for this work!), Bob From rrockell@sprint.net Tue Feb 1 21:39:48 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:39:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: router outage Message-ID: Sprint's IPv6 machines will experience an outage for some period of the day on 2/7/00. This is for a power and topology cut over for our major backbone ipv6 boxes. Transit and non-transit connectivity through Sprint's 6bone presence will be down for some to most of the day on February 7, starting around Noon (1200) EDT. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprintlink Internet Service Center Operations Engineering 703-689-6322 1-800-724-3329, PIN 385-8833 Ines|e gnyne qh vagr bz s|e Ino ngg una {e hgr bpu plxyne? From brian@hursley.ibm.com Sun Feb 6 15:57:57 2000 From: brian@hursley.ibm.com (Brian E Carpenter) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 09:57:57 -0600 Subject: prefix lengths [was Re: stla registry db issue] References: <002f01bf694a$39593ff0$4701a8c0@wilson.staff.apnic.net> Message-ID: <389D9A05.EAB2B3B6@hursley.ibm.com> Paul Wilson wrote: ... > Finally, on the question of advertising prefix lengths longer than /29, it > is in fact the proposal of the RIRs that the prefixes announced by any > organisation will correspond only to their allocation (anywhere from /16 to > /35), and not to their reservation (which would be either /16 or /29). The > justification behind this (as discussed with the IAB in Minneapolis last > year) is that in a future scenario where many TLA and subTLA blocks were > released and allocated, and where routing table expansion again becomes a > concern, it is necessary for ISPs to have an objective means available for > limiting the size of their routing tables, and the best such means available > is to filter on prefix length. I have a fundamental conceptual problem with what you are saying, so we must have miscommunicated in Minneapolis on this. The original idea was very clear: only TLAs would be visible in the default free routing table, i.e. the default free table would be strictly filtered at /16 and thus hard limited to 8192, or maybe 16384 if we had to open up a second set of TLAs. Then we added one set of subTLAs, which actually gives a hard limit of 8191 TLAs and 8192 sub-TLAs, i.e. 16383, and the default free table contains prefixes of /16 and /29. It's quite irrelevant if some of the /29s are announced as longer than /29 as you suggest: there will never be more than 8192 of them (unless for some reason we get in a situation where 8191 TLAs and 8192 subTLAs are not enough, but this is unlikely). (BTW, in actuality there can only ever be 8190 TLA routes, since the TLA allocated to 6to4 address space will never be in the default free table. But that's a detail). As far as route filtering is concerned there is no difference between a /29 and a /35; they both aggregate exactly the same, because we have agreed that there will never be holes in a /29. > The alternative is a huge routing table populated with /16 and /29 prefixes > only, where no objective means for route filtering is available, and where > bilateral routing agreements would emerge as the only way for an ISP to > control its tables. It wouldn't be huge at all; it should never exceed 16382 in fact. There certainly will be bilats for longer prefixes, all the way out to /48. We can't do anything about that, but we can place a strict limit on the default free table. Brian From fred@ms.chttl.com.tw Wed Feb 9 05:20:16 2000 From: fred@ms.chttl.com.tw (Tai Fang Ming (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C0=B9=AA=DA=BB=CA?=)) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:20:16 +0800 Subject: Build a tunnel between telebit router and zebra routing daemon Message-ID: <38A0F910.6D1BA256@ms.chttl.com.tw> Does anybody have a successful experience to build a tunnel between Telebit router and zebra routing daemon? We use Telebit router to build tunnel with zebra routing daemon. The tunnel seems connected (we use ping ,traceroute debugging tool can ping IPv4 , IPv6 the end point of tunnel ),but BGP4+(rfc2283) routing protocol can not work correctly? -- Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. Telecommunication Laboratorles Switching Technology Lab. Tai,Fang Ming TEL:+886 3 424-5068 FAX:+886 3 424-4888 E-mail:fred@ms.chttl.com.tw From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Wed Feb 9 11:56:25 2000 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 06:56:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Build a tunnel between telebit router and zebra routing daemon In-Reply-To: <38A0F910.6D1BA256@ms.chttl.com.tw> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Tai Fang Ming wrote: > Does anybody have a successful experience to build a tunnel between > Telebit router and zebra routing daemon? > We use Telebit router to build tunnel with zebra routing daemon. > The tunnel seems connected (we use ping ,traceroute debugging tool > can ping IPv4 , IPv6 the end point of tunnel ),but BGP4+(rfc2283) > routing protocol can not work correctly? You may want to email the zebra folks about this as well..... > > -- > Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. > Telecommunication Laboratorles Switching Technology Lab. > Tai,Fang Ming > TEL:+886 3 424-5068 > FAX:+886 3 424-4888 > E-mail:fred@ms.chttl.com.tw > > wfms From woeber@cc.univie.ac.at Wed Feb 9 16:20:04 2000 From: woeber@cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:20:04 MET Subject: Build a tunnel between telebit router and zebra routing daemon Message-ID: <009E56A1.FC33DD92.5@cc.univie.ac.at> => We use Telebit router to build tunnel with zebra routing daemon. => The tunnel seems connected (we use ping ,traceroute debugging tool => can ping IPv4 , IPv6 the end point of tunnel ),but BGP4+(rfc2283) => routing protocol can not work correctly? = =You may want to email the zebra folks about this as well..... ...and you may want to add a few more technical details about your environment, like software versions, link type(s), and the like and what the symptoms of "can not work correctly" are. While we were testing interoperability for BGP4+ and RIPng "recently" (both router- and host-based), we ran into a few hickups with getting telebit, cisco and MRTd to talk to each other. Some of the problems were related to particular interface types (like BGP4+ was ok on Ethernet but did not work over ATM). All of those problems were properly resolved. -WW -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Vienna University : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : RIPE-DB Handle: WW144 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : PGP public key ID 0xF0ACB369 __________________________________________________________________________ From rene.mayrhofer@vianova.at Wed Feb 9 17:44:14 2000 From: rene.mayrhofer@vianova.at (Rene Mayrhofer) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:44:14 +0100 Subject: IPv6 tunnel for dynamic IPv4 address (Austria) Message-ID: <38A1A76E.6011BF7A@vianova.at> Hi all I am setting up a local home network for IPv6 at the moment and I want to join the 6bone. One problem is that I only get dynamic IPv4 addresses from my ISP. Is anybody willing to provide me with a setup like the one described in http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/sitctrl/default.html ? The network is in Steyr, Austria and has an IPv4 connection to AOnline (the Austrian telekom). I want to join the 6bone because I am working on a Debian-Linux based distribution that works as a professional firewall (3 companies are already using test-versions of it for production purposes). The firewalls should be able to handle IPv6 because they are also acting as routers for most companies. Therefore I want to play with IPv6 routing / firewalling as soon as possible. If somebody could provide me with a tunnel to my dynamic PPP address, please contact me. I am experienced with IPv4 setups (configuring routers / firewalls .... :) ), but this is my first IPv6 setup. Thanks in advance, Rene From pwilson@apnic.net Thu Feb 10 00:15:22 2000 From: pwilson@apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:15:22 +1000 Subject: ICANN ASO: website and mailing lists Message-ID: <001001bf735b$ebfcba90$4701a8c0@wilson.staff.apnic.net> (with apologies for duplicates) Reminder: ICANN ASO - Website and Discussion Lists This is an announcement to all parties with interests in management of Internet Address space and related resources. The Address Supporting Organisation of ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) was established last year, and has assumed its responsibilities under the ICANN Bylaws for coordination of global policy development in relation to Internet Addresses and related resources. The nine-member Address Council has also been established, in accordance with the ASO MoU and ICANN Bylaws. 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Message-ID: <38A302AB.48F5B069@ensi.rnu.tn> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E772488E4123E9FF4B8E24A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi every one I have just assisted in a conference of a technical leader in a company of telecommunication (field of investments: ATM) that IPv6 died !!! What must I answer it especially that it has just said to me that all the problems relating to addressing, the routing and the quality of service are solved once for all. I would like to know your contribution so that I can answer it in a collective way. 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References: <38A302AB.48F5B069@ensi.rnu.tn> Message-ID: <38A33B6E.C552C845@mitre.org> Mounir Eddabbabi wrote: > > Hi every one > > I have just assisted in a conference of a technical leader in a company of telecommunication (field of investments: ATM) that IPv6 died !!! What must I answer it especially that it has just said to me that all the problems relating to addressing, the routing and the quality of service are solved once for all. I would like to know your contribution so that I can answer it in a collective way. > So that's why Microsoft, Cisco, etc. are all investing in IPv6 research? I don't see anybody jumping up and screaming for ATM to the desktop anymore, so if I had to make an observation, I'd say that ATM is in a lot worse trouble in the local area network than IPv6 is in the wide area network. With the relaese of the IPv6 service pack for NT, I think we are poised on the brink of a Nantucket Sleight Ride we haven't seen since Ahab. From burgess@mitre.org Thu Feb 10 22:28:54 2000 From: burgess@mitre.org (David Burgess) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:28:54 -0600 Subject: Is IPv6 died ? References: <38A302AB.48F5B069@ensi.rnu.tn> Message-ID: <38A33BA6.A948062F@mitre.org> Mounir Eddabbabi wrote: > > Hi every one > > I have just assisted in a conference of a technical leader in a company of telecommunication (field of investments: ATM) that IPv6 died !!! What must I answer it especially that it has just said to me that all the problems relating to addressing, the routing and the quality of service are solved once for all. I would like to know your contribution so that I can answer it in a collective way. > So that's why Microsoft, Cisco, etc. are all investing in IPv6 research? I don't see anybody jumping up and screaming for ATM to the desktop anymore, so if I had to make an observation, I'd say that ATM is in a lot worse trouble in the local area network than IPv6 is in the wide area network. With the relaese of the IPv6 service pack for NT, I think we are poised on the brink of a Nantucket Sleight Ride we haven't seen since Ahab. From fred@ms.chttl.com.tw Fri Feb 11 08:41:04 2000 From: fred@ms.chttl.com.tw (Tai Fang Ming (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C0=B9=AA=DA=BB=CA?=)) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:41:04 +0800 Subject: CHT-TW,sTLA,2001:238::/35 Message-ID: <38A3CB1F.A75D3BC3@ms.chttl.com.tw> Dear IPv6 members. I'm Fang-Ming Tai from CHT-TL, Taiwan. We got 2001:238::/35 sTLA block from APNIC. We are planning to assign the IPv6 addresses to Chungwa Telecom Co., Ltd. and research units in Taiwan. Thanks. -- Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. Telecommunication Laboratorles Switching Technology Lab. Tai,Fang Ming TEL:+886 3 424-5068 FAX:+886 3 424-4888 E-mail:fred@ms.chttl.com.tw From rrockell@sprint.net Fri Feb 11 13:24:10 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:24:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sprint (3ffe:2900::/24) back online Message-ID: Due to some extended power outages, and myself being away an unable to watch people perform the maintenance until returning last night, Sprint had expereinced a longer maintenance window that was desired. Bother our IPv6 core, as well as our IPv4 path to most v6 customers/peers were down for the last couple of days. Apologies to all of my downstreams for the extended outage. Sprint is back online, and appears to have most of it's peerings back up and operational at this time. If you are on this list, coud you reset your bgp? exceptions: 3FFE:2900:1::A 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:2300::FFFF:15 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:1D00:101:FF08::1 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:C::2 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:6::2 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:C::2 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:1280:1000:1::F842:1428 0 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:C:7::2 0 ebgp direct EBGP peerings that are back up: 3FFE:C00:E:1::1 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:1::1E 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:1::26 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:A00:2:2::9 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:1100:0:CC07::1 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:1::16 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:B00:C18::E 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:2::2 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:3::2 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:4::2 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:900:0:1C::1 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:A::2 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:B::2 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:1::2D 65861 ebgp direct 3FFE:3600::3 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:B::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:3200:1:3::1 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:8000:FFFF:29::1 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:2::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:E::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:B:F::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:28FF:FFFF:1::114 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:C:5::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:C:5::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2D00:1::F 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:A:5::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:C:8::2 65869 ebgp direct 3FFE:2900:C:F::2 65869 ebgp direct from core. Thanks again for the patience during this outage. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprintlink Internet Service Center Operations Engineering 703-689-6322 1-800-724-3329, PIN 385-8833 Ines|e gnyne qh vagr bz s|e Ino ngg una {e hgr bpu plxyne? From lewis@tislabs.com Fri Feb 11 13:31:03 2000 From: lewis@tislabs.com (Edward Lewis) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:31:03 -0500 Subject: Is IPv6 died ? In-Reply-To: <38A302AB.48F5B069@ensi.rnu.tn> Message-ID: Be wary of anyone claiming that a technology is dead. People sometimes make these claims because they have a financial stake in a competitor to the "dead" technology. As a rule of thumb, the telecommunications industry and the networking industry are competing interests, they will likely disagree on the health of a technology. IPv6 seems to be picking up momentum, in my estimation. FreeSWAN, KAME, et. al., efforts to get BIND 9 done are showing progress. At 1:25 PM -0500 2/10/00, Mounir Eddabbabi wrote: >I have just assisted in a conference of a technical leader in a company >of telecommunication (field of investments: ATM) that IPv6 died !!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis NAI Labs Phone: +1 443-259-2352 Email: lewis@tislabs.com "Trying is the first step to failure." - Homer Simpson "No! Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "It takes years of training to know when to do nothing" - Dogbert 1/21/00 Opinions expressed are property of my evil twin, not my employer. From Rob Goode Fri Feb 11 13:34:09 2000 From: Rob Goode (Rob Goode) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:34:09 +0100 (MET) Subject: Is IPv6 died ? Message-ID: <200002111334.OAA12170@comsun21.nc3a.nato.int> Dear David, On 10 Feb 2000 16:27:58 -0600 David Burgess wrote > > With the relaese of the IPv6 service pack for NT, I think we are poised > on the brink of a Nantucket Sleight Ride we haven't seen since Ahab. > Is this a reference to MSRIPv6? If not could you provide a URL for the Service Pack please? Cheers, Rob Goode From mhw@wittsend.com Fri Feb 11 15:48:03 2000 From: mhw@wittsend.com (Michael H. Warfield) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:48:03 -0500 Subject: Is IPv6 died ? In-Reply-To: <200002111334.OAA12170@comsun21.nc3a.nato.int>; from goode@nc3a.nato.int on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:34:09PM +0100 References: <200002111334.OAA12170@comsun21.nc3a.nato.int> Message-ID: <20000211104803.F8957@alcove.wittsend.com> On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:34:09PM +0100, Rob Goode wrote: > Dear David, > On 10 Feb 2000 16:27:58 -0600 David Burgess wrote > > With the relaese of the IPv6 service pack for NT, I think we are poised > > on the brink of a Nantucket Sleight Ride we haven't seen since Ahab. > Is this a reference to MSRIPv6? If not could you provide a URL for > the Service Pack please? Is Windows 2000 a service pack? It's suppose to be integrated into Windows 2000. It's also available as an add-on to NT 4.0 (I don't know the URL - I've just heard it talked about). It's not in a "service pack". > Cheers, > Rob Goode -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (770) 331-2437 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! From Rob Goode Fri Feb 11 16:35:22 2000 From: Rob Goode (Rob Goode) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:35:22 +0100 (MET) Subject: Is IPv6 died ? Message-ID: <200002111635.RAA12560@comsun21.nc3a.nato.int> I'm curious, > > Is Windows 2000 a service pack? It's suppose to be integrated into > Windows 2000. > would anyone care to catagorically confirm that IPv6 is included in Microsoft Windows 2000, due for worldwide release on February 17th? My understanding was that Microsoft do not have a productised version of IPv6, just a research release (MSRIPv6). Happy to find out I'm wrong. Cheers, Rob Goode From richdr@microsoft.com Fri Feb 11 17:22:24 2000 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:22:24 -0800 Subject: Is IPv6 died ? Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21AFD@RED-MSG-50> Windows 2000 does not include IPv6. The Windows Networking product group is working actively on IPv6. Microsoft Research has an IPv6 release that runs on NT 4 and Windows 2000. Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Goode [mailto:goode@nc3a.nato.int] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:35 AM > To: mhw@wittsend.com > Cc: burgess@mitre.org; 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: Is IPv6 died ? > > > I'm curious, > > > > > Is Windows 2000 a service pack? It's suppose to be > integrated into > > Windows 2000. > > > would anyone care to catagorically confirm that IPv6 is included in > Microsoft Windows 2000, due for worldwide release on February 17th? > > My understanding was that Microsoft do not have a productised version > of IPv6, just a research release (MSRIPv6). Happy to find out > I'm wrong. > > Cheers, > > Rob Goode > > From mhw@wittsend.com Fri Feb 11 18:27:18 2000 From: mhw@wittsend.com (Michael H. Warfield) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:27:18 -0500 Subject: Is IPv6 died ? In-Reply-To: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21AFD@RED-MSG-50>; from richdr@microsoft.com on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 09:22:24AM -0800 References: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21AFD@RED-MSG-50> Message-ID: <20000211132718.A30478@alcove.wittsend.com> On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 09:22:24AM -0800, Richard Draves wrote: > Windows 2000 does not include IPv6. Ooopppsss... My bad. I'm reviewing some white papers, pre-publication, and misinterpreted a section on RFC's and IPSec that I thought implied that IPv6 was bundled as well. Rereading that section, I realize that was a faulty conclusion on my part. > The Windows Networking product group is working actively on IPv6. > Microsoft Research has an IPv6 release that runs on NT 4 and Windows 2000. > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Goode [mailto:goode@nc3a.nato.int] > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:35 AM > > To: mhw@wittsend.com > > Cc: burgess@mitre.org; 6bone@ISI.EDU > > Subject: Re: Is IPv6 died ? > > > > > > I'm curious, > > > > > > > > Is Windows 2000 a service pack? It's suppose to be > > integrated into > > > Windows 2000. > > > > > would anyone care to catagorically confirm that IPv6 is included in > > Microsoft Windows 2000, due for worldwide release on February 17th? > > > > My understanding was that Microsoft do not have a productised version > > of IPv6, just a research release (MSRIPv6). Happy to find out > > I'm wrong. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rob Goode Mike -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (770) 331-2437 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! From jslagle@toledolink.com Mon Feb 14 03:39:09 2000 From: jslagle@toledolink.com (Jason) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:39:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tunnels... Message-ID: Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. Someday after I've been up for awhile I'd like to apply for a pTLA, but I'm doing some testing and would like to dish out some tunnels. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 From fink@es.net Mon Feb 14 16:12:30 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:12:30 -0800 Subject: Tunnels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000214081007.018a4998@imap2.es.net> Jason, At 10:39 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, Jason wrote: >Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do >this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. If you are a pNLA end-site (versue a transit) with a /48 then the only tunnels would be for parts of your own network, i.e., some other SLA ID. >Someday after I've been up for awhile I'd like to apply for a pTLA, but >I'm doing some testing and would like to dish out some tunnels. Why don't you get whomever your pTLA is to give you a pNLA transit block (i.e., a shorter prefix than /48). Bob From gmaxwell@Martin.FL.US Mon Feb 14 20:57:13 2000 From: gmaxwell@Martin.FL.US (Greg Maxwell) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:57:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tunnels... In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000214081007.018a4998@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > Jason, > > At 10:39 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, Jason wrote: > >Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do > >this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. > > If you are a pNLA end-site (versue a transit) with a /48 then the only > tunnels would be for parts of your own network, i.e., some other SLA ID. Since only my home is on the 6bone right now (as opposed to my work), I'm not reall one to comment here but... I don't agree, what about peering? Even end-sites can peer with other end sites to exchange traffic among themselves. This is useful in the face of v6-in-v4 tunnels causing very unoptimim paths between end-sites. This is also useful when they are IPv4 peers in 'real life'/ From fink@es.net Mon Feb 14 21:11:23 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:11:23 -0800 Subject: Tunnels... In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20000214081007.018a4998@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000214131018.018df008@imap2.es.net> At 03:57 PM 2/14/2000 -0500, Greg Maxwell wrote: >On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > At 10:39 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, Jason wrote: > > >Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do > > >this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. > > > > If you are a pNLA end-site (versue a transit) with a /48 then the only > > tunnels would be for parts of your own network, i.e., some other SLA ID. > >Since only my home is on the 6bone right now (as opposed to my work), I'm >not reall one to comment here but... > >I don't agree, what about peering? Even end-sites can peer with other end >sites to exchange traffic among themselves. This is useful in the face of >v6-in-v4 tunnels causing very unoptimim paths between end-sites. This is >also useful when they are IPv4 peers in 'real life'/ I agree with you. I was assuming the other use for delegation as he said dish out, not peer. Bob From jslagle@toledolink.com Mon Feb 14 21:13:49 2000 From: jslagle@toledolink.com (Jason) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:13:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tunnels... In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000214131018.018df008@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: Correct, I am planning on (Actually I am), dishing 2 tunnels out to other sites. I emailed Merit and asked for a transit pLNA so we'll see. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > At 03:57 PM 2/14/2000 -0500, Greg Maxwell wrote: > >On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > > > > > Jason, > > > > > > At 10:39 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, Jason wrote: > > > >Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do > > > >this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. > > > > > > If you are a pNLA end-site (versue a transit) with a /48 then the only > > > tunnels would be for parts of your own network, i.e., some other SLA ID. > > > >Since only my home is on the 6bone right now (as opposed to my work), I'm > >not reall one to comment here but... > > > >I don't agree, what about peering? Even end-sites can peer with other end > >sites to exchange traffic among themselves. This is useful in the face of > >v6-in-v4 tunnels causing very unoptimim paths between end-sites. This is > >also useful when they are IPv4 peers in 'real life'/ > > > I agree with you. I was assuming the other use for delegation as he said > dish out, not peer. > > Bob > From jslagle@toledolink.com Mon Feb 14 22:46:17 2000 From: jslagle@toledolink.com (Jason) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:46:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: ipv6 mail test Message-ID: Could someome send a test message to raistlin@ipv6.tacorp.net - Testing ipv6 mail support. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 From jabley@patho.gen.nz Tue Feb 15 01:29:39 2000 From: jabley@patho.gen.nz (Joe Abley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:29:39 +1300 Subject: Tunnels... In-Reply-To: ; from gmaxwell@Martin.FL.US on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 03:57:13PM -0500 References: <4.2.2.20000214081007.018a4998@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <20000215142937.B10826@patho.gen.nz> On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 03:57:13PM -0500, Greg Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > > At 10:39 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, Jason wrote: > > >Is it acceptable for me to dish out tunnels as an end site, and if I do > > >this, should I document them with tunnel attributes. > > > > If you are a pNLA end-site (versue a transit) with a /48 then the only > > tunnels would be for parts of your own network, i.e., some other SLA ID. > > Since only my home is on the 6bone right now (as opposed to my work), I'm > not reall one to comment here but... > > I don't agree, what about peering? Even end-sites can peer with other end > sites to exchange traffic among themselves. This is useful in the face of > v6-in-v4 tunnels causing very unoptimim paths between end-sites. This is > also useful when they are IPv4 peers in 'real life'/ This discussion sounds like it might be veering off towards questions of multi-homing, in which case a recurring argument might well ensue (speaking from experience :) In case there's anybody new here who has niggling doubts about how pure aggregation is going to work with widespread multi-homing of "end site" networks, there have been many discussions on the topic already, which you will find in the ipng and ngtrans IETF working group archives. I'm not saying there are answers there, just that there are arguments there which are worth not re-hashing. [Note that I know the topic in question was peering, and peering between end sites does not have the same implications. Just that when you start peering, its only a matter of time before you someone starts to talk about backup transit arrangements.] Joe From oliver.michael@gargantuan.com Tue Feb 15 03:38:53 2000 From: oliver.michael@gargantuan.com (Michael W. Oliver) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:38:53 -0500 Subject: ipv6 mail test Message-ID: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: test message Sent: 2/14/2000 10:20 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'raistlin@ipv6.tacorp.net' on 2/14/2000 10:20 PM Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c.........................etc etc etc Regards, Michael W. Oliver Gargantuan Inter-Intranet Solutions mailto:oliver.michael@gargantuan.com http://michael.gargantuan.com Page me at mailto:1570482@skytel.com ****************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Jason [mailto:jslagle@toledolink.com] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 5:46 PM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: ipv6 mail test Could someome send a test message to raistlin@ipv6.tacorp.net - Testing ipv6 mail support. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 From yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw Fri Feb 18 08:31:35 2000 From: yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:31:35 +0800 Subject: How to extend NLA ID into reserved field Message-ID: <38AD0367.CED75EFB@ms.chttl.com.tw> We have got one subTLA block and if I futher divide my subTLA as following: 1/35 1/39 1/43 1/48 ---------+------+-----+------+-------------- | subTLA | NLA1 | RES | NLA2 | | ---------+------+-----+------+------------- I assign NLA2 to my directly connected customers. And I have confusion about how to use RES bit for my NLA2. There is one line in RFC2374 talking about how to use RES for NAL2: To extend the NLA ID into the reserved field if additional room for complexity is needed. When I have consumes all NLA2 for a given (subTLA, NLA1, RES=0) pair and now some of my customer need more address from me, If I extend the NLA2 ID into the reserve field, the address for the customer seems not to be continuous. (The previous and the new one I assinged) . With the condition, I would rather allocate another NLA1 to assign NLA2. Can anybody tell me what's the above line means? (To extend the NLA ID into the reserved field if additional room for complexity is needed.) Thanks -- --------------------------------- Yann-Ju Chu Telecommunication Laboratories ChungHwa Telecom Co., Ltd. TEL: +886 3 424-5681 FAX: +886 3 424-4888 http://www.chttl.com.tw --------------------------------- From fink@es.net Fri Feb 18 19:34:22 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:34:22 -0800 Subject: How to extend NLA ID into reserved field In-Reply-To: <38AD0367.CED75EFB@ms.chttl.com.tw> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000218112509.018a1bb8@imap2.es.net> At 04:31 PM 2/18/2000 +0800, Yann-Ju Chu wrote: >We have got one subTLA block and >if I futher divide my subTLA as following: > > 1/35 1/39 1/43 1/48 > ---------+------+-----+------+-------------- > | subTLA | NLA1 | RES | NLA2 | | > ---------+------+-----+------+------------- >I assign NLA2 to my directly connected customers. And I have confusion >about how >to use RES bit for my NLA2. > >There is one line in RFC2374 talking about how to use RES for NAL2: >To extend the NLA ID into the reserved field if additional room for >complexity is needed. > >When I have consumes all NLA2 for a given (subTLA, NLA1, RES=0) pair and >now some of my >customer need more address from me, If I extend the NLA2 ID into the reserve >field, the address for the customer seems not to be continuous. (The >previous and the >new one I assinged) . With the condition, I would rather allocate another NLA1 >to assign NLA2. > >Can anybody tell me what's the above line means? >(To extend the NLA ID into the reserved field if additional room for >complexity is needed.) This refers to the Aggregatable Addressing plan for TLA's in general, not the use of TLA=2001 for sub-TLA purposes. It meant that we reserved 8-bits between TLA and NLA so either could expand in future plans (not the users choice, rather an IETF/IANA/RIR choice). So don't think of this as a part of the way the TLA=2001 sub-TLA's are handed out. Thus your use of a RES field between NLA1 and NLA2 isn't related. In your case, you could choose to leave the RES field as a way of expanding either your NLA1 field to the right, or your NLA2 field from the left. Bob From yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw Sat Feb 19 06:47:38 2000 From: yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:47:38 +0800 Subject: How to do address assignment Message-ID: <38AE3C8A.296CDA66@ms.chttl.com.tw> We have got one subTLA block and if I futher divide my subTLA as following: 1/35 1/39 1/43 1/48 ---------+------+-----+------+-------------- | subTLA | NLA1 | RES | NLA2 | | ---------+------+-----+------+------------- Since aggregation is an important topic in IPv6 world, when we assign one NLA1 to one organzation, should we reserve the next few NLA1 blocks in advance? ( to insure continous address allocation to a single organization once the organization have consumed their origin NLA2 and ask for another NLA1 block assignment) Is there any document talking about this? Thanks -- --------------------------------- Yann-Ju Chu Telecommunication Laboratories ChungHwa Telecom Co., Ltd. TEL: +886 3 424-5681 FAX: +886 3 424-4888 http://www.chttl.com.tw --------------------------------- From fink@es.net Sun Feb 20 16:23:27 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:23:27 -0800 Subject: How to do address assignment In-Reply-To: <38AE3C8A.296CDA66@ms.chttl.com.tw> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000220082040.00ac9508@imap2.es.net> Yann-Ju, At 02:47 PM 2/19/2000 +0800, Yann-Ju Chu wrote: >We have got one subTLA block and >if I futher divide my subTLA as following: > > 1/35 1/39 1/43 1/48 > ---------+------+-----+------+-------------- > | subTLA | NLA1 | RES | NLA2 | | > ---------+------+-----+------+------------- > > >Since aggregation is an important topic in IPv6 world, when we assign one NLA1 >to one organzation, should we reserve the next few NLA1 blocks in advance? >( to insure continous address allocation to a single organization once the > organization have consumed their origin NLA2 and ask for another NLA1 > block assignment) > > >Is there any document talking about this? I believe that just the various plans for IPv6 addressing by those that have received a sub-TLA allocation. The one we have for ESnet is at: Taks a look, then ask me specific questions if you wish. Thanks, Bob From kenken@sfc.wide.ad.jp Mon Feb 21 04:09:26 2000 From: kenken@sfc.wide.ad.jp (Kengo NAGAHASHI) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:09:26 +0900 Subject: How to do address assignment In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:23:27 -0800" <4.2.2.20000220082040.00ac9508@imap2.es.net> References: <38AE3C8A.296CDA66@ms.chttl.com.tw> <4.2.2.20000220082040.00ac9508@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <87wvnz42o9.wl@hirosue.v6.sfc.wide.ad.jp> > > > >Is there any document talking about this? > > I believe that just the various plans for IPv6 addressing by those that > have received a sub-TLA allocation. The one we have for ESnet is at: > And the other is WIDE-JP(2001:200::/35).The addressing plan can be found: http://www.v6.wide.ad.jp/Registry/v6_addr_track/stla_delegate_description.txt Just a rough draft.But if there is a demand,we'll grad to rewrite it. And I think it will be helpfull for a new sub-TLA subscriber to gather such sub-TLA addressing plans. regards. -- Kengo NAGAHASHI Keio University/WIDE Project From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Feb 21 06:18:36 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:18:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: How to do address assignment In-Reply-To: <87wvnz42o9.wl@hirosue.v6.sfc.wide.ad.jp> from "Kengo NAGAHASHI" at Feb 21, 2000 01:09:26 PM Message-ID: <200002210618.WAA13480@zephyr.isi.edu> % > >Is there any document talking about this? % > % > I believe that just the various plans for IPv6 addressing by those that % > have received a sub-TLA allocation. The one we have for ESnet is at: % > % % And the other is WIDE-JP(2001:200::/35).The addressing plan can be found: % % http://www.v6.wide.ad.jp/Registry/v6_addr_track/stla_delegate_description.txt % Ours is integral to the DNS zone file. Also note that there is an early version of an rwhois server for IPv6 sites at: rwhois.ip6.int. Feedback is desired. -- --bill From wjshao@njnet.edu.cn Mon Feb 21 08:34:50 2000 From: wjshao@njnet.edu.cn (Shao Wenjian) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:34:50 +0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <200002210835.QAA12085@njnet.edu.cn> Hi: Do you know whether java has implemented ipv6 sockets? Sincerely Yours wjshao From gmaxwell@Martin.FL.US Mon Feb 21 13:13:50 2000 From: gmaxwell@Martin.FL.US (Greg Maxwell) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:13:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Getting a tunnel & address space. Message-ID: I'm trying to get a medium sized site on the 6bone for some testing. I've emailed 3 pTLAs in the past 2.5 weeks and I've recieved no responce. Is anyone willing to provide a v6-in-v4 tunnel and some address space who is in network proximity to NETBLK-MCNET. Sorry for taking this on the list, but I'm growing impatience as I want to have IPv6 deployed for testing when the Solaris 8 boxes arrive. :) -- The comments and opinions expressed herein are those of the author of this message and may not reflect the policies of the Martin County Board of County Commissioners. From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Mon Feb 21 14:46:08 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:46:08 -0500 Subject: Getting a tunnel & address space. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000221094529.03757058@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> At/À 08:13 2000-02-21 -0500, Greg Maxwell you wrote/vous avez écrit: >I'm trying to get a medium sized site on the 6bone for some testing. I've >emailed 3 pTLAs in the past 2.5 weeks and I've recieved no responce. we can provide you with a tunnel. please send your request to ipv6@viagenie.qc.ca and we will go from there. Marc. >Is anyone willing to provide a v6-in-v4 tunnel and some address space who >is in network proximity to NETBLK-MCNET. > >Sorry for taking this on the list, but I'm growing impatience as I want to >have IPv6 deployed for testing when the Solaris 8 boxes arrive. :) > >-- >The comments and opinions expressed herein are those of the author of this >message and may not reflect the policies of the Martin County Board of >County Commissioners. Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From ina@mimos.my Fri Feb 25 03:26:50 2000 From: ina@mimos.my (Raja Azlina Raja Mahmood) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:50 +0800 (MYT) Subject: require NLA address in order to tunnel Message-ID: Appreciate if anyone could provide us with NLA address and willing to tunnel with us. We are located in Malaysia with IP of 192.228.134.72. I've e-mailed those in Asian region but not much of luck so far and I'm not sure if geographical location is my main concern now. If no reply from Asian region, I'll have to find other alternative. Perhaps viagenie.qc.ca is willing(I saw your reply). Forgive me if this e-mail bothers some of you. regards, -azlina- From fink@es.net Fri Feb 25 06:55:29 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:55:29 -0800 Subject: require NLA address in order to tunnel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000224225456.00afa918@imap2.es.net> Azlina, At 11:26 AM 2/25/2000 +0800, Raja Azlina Raja Mahmood wrote: >Appreciate if anyone could provide us with NLA address and >willing to tunnel with us. We are located in Malaysia with IP of >192.228.134.72. I've e-mailed those in Asian region but not much >of luck so far and I'm not sure if geographical location is my main >concern now. If no reply from Asian region, I'll have to find other >alternative. Perhaps viagenie.qc.ca is willing(I saw your reply). Have you tried any of the SINGAREN folk at: Bob From ina@mimos.my Fri Feb 25 08:24:14 2000 From: ina@mimos.my (Raja Azlina Raja Mahmood) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:24:14 +0800 (MYT) Subject: require NLA address in order to tunnel In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000224225456.00afa918@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: Bob, Singaren was the first organization that I e-mailed to. They has agreed to peer with us, but then they only provide their v4 address, without assigning NLA address to us until now. I've replied to them asking for it together with our future plan. Guess I'm getting impatience these days. If you advise me to wait, then I'll do that until March. Or else I'll appreciate co-operation from other parties. Thanks. regards, -azlina > Have you tried any of the SINGAREN folk at: > > > > > Bob > > From ettikan@nttmsc.com.my Fri Feb 25 10:51:54 2000 From: ettikan@nttmsc.com.my (Ettikan Kandasamy) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:51:54 +0800 Subject: require NLA address in order to tunnel Message-ID: Hello Ina, I have some block of addresses for APAN-MY-IPv6 activities. It's from WIDE ... please mail me ... -ettikan Raja Azlina Raja Mahmood on 02/25/2000 11:26:50 AM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU cc: (bcc: Ettikan Kandasamy/NTTMSC) Subject: require NLA address in order to tunnel Appreciate if anyone could provide us with NLA address and willing to tunnel with us. We are located in Malaysia with IP of 192.228.134.72. I've e-mailed those in Asian region but not much of luck so far and I'm not sure if geographical location is my main concern now. If no reply from Asian region, I'll have to find other alternative. Perhaps viagenie.qc.ca is willing(I saw your reply). Forgive me if this e-mail bothers some of you. regards, -azlina- From fink@es.net Fri Feb 25 19:58:31 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:58:31 -0800 Subject: 6bone registry moved Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000225114954.01823eb8@imap2.es.net> David Kessens asked me to forward the email below to the list. In a nutshell, David has changed jobs, moving from Qwest to Nokia (though his email doesn't reflect this yet). Thus the whois.6bone.net 6bone registry server has been relocated. I'm sure David will change logos on his various pages when he returns from his trip to Europe, so don't be confused that the Qwest logo is still present. I have changed the various 6bone web pages to reflect this server change (I hope I have caught the various places I still used a qwest domain name). Please let me know if you find places that still need updating. So, please review the email below. Thanks, Bob ==================================================================== Hi, I have changed the physical location of the 6bone registry due to an impending job change to Nokia. The name of the machine is the same. The url for my personal 6bone information and http whois client has changed to: The mail address for updates is now: The old url & mail address is still in place but might be taken away at some point in the furture so I recommend to start using the new addresses. You can always mail me in emergency situations. As a backup, Bob Fink or Bob Hinden should know my whereabouts when you are unable to get a quick hold of me. I hope this helps, David K. --- From johanneselsinghorst@hotmail.com Sat Feb 26 22:24:29 2000 From: johanneselsinghorst@hotmail.com (Johannes Elsinghorst) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:24:29 GMT Subject: shell account provider Message-ID: <20000226222429.87794.qmail@hotmail.com> hello, i have only a win98-box to use. So my question is: is there any commercial or private shell provier, that is connected to the 6bone and is willing to provide me a shell account ? thx, Johannes Elsinghorst ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cmj@3Com.com Tue Feb 29 00:43:05 2000 From: cmj@3Com.com (Cyndi Jung) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:43:05 -0800 Subject: IPv6-only reachable websites during Summit Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000228164305.008f8ad0@mailhost.ewd.3com.com> 6bone members - The Global IPv6 Summit in Telluride will be connected to the Internet with a T1 via the 'Net Cafe in the Steaming Bean and also to the 6bone (looking for the closest point of attachment to it still - any volunteers?) During the conference, each conference seat will be supplied with a 10/100 ethernet port, plus a wireless 802.11 access. Both IPv4 and IPv6 connectivity will be available. So, if anybody out there has a website that is reachable only over IPv6, it would be great if you could send me a URL for that site. If you don't have it ready today, put one up and send me the URL when it is up. Please, use a little taste with the content - no pornography. Thanks, Cyndi