From fink@es.net Fri Dec 1 20:42:16 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:42:16 -0800 Subject: 6bone registry changeover to Viagenie web i/f Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201123527.03302760@imap2.es.net> 6bone registry users, We (Viagenie, David Kessens and me) are considering a change in the registry procedures to using only the Viagenie web i/f for all creations, changes and deletes. It would mean that email submittals to auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net would no longer work, and that you would need to changeover to CRYPT protected mntner objects. At the present time approx. half the registry traffic comes from the web i/f, the other half from email submittal. Before we do this, we would like to know what you thinks of this. Thanks, Bob From fink@es.net Fri Dec 1 20:47:40 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:47:40 -0800 Subject: Fwd: CERN pTLA request Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201124232.03290e20@imap2.es.net> CERN (the European nuclear research facility based in Geneva, Switzerland) has requested a pTLA. The closing date for the comment period will be 15 December (just after the IETF meetings). PLease send comments to me or the list. CERN is an end-site with unusual circumstances as its users are scattered around the globe, and they have many special circuits reaching to unusual places. For example, they run a circuit all the way to the Chicago NAP to peer with various folk. Thus they are similar to large corporate intranets such as Cisco, etc. In my opinion this is a reasonable request that will help further IPv6. Thanks, Bob === >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:51:37 +0100 (MET) >From: Joop Joosten >To: Bob Fink >Subject: CERN pTLA request > > > The following rules apply to qualify for a 6Bone pTLA allocation. It > should be recognized that holders of 6Bone pTLA allocations are > expected to provide production quality backbone network services for > the 6Bone. > > 1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. During > the entire qualifying period the Applicant must be operationally > providing the following: > > a. Fully maintained, up to date, 6Bone Registry entries for their > ipv6-site inet6num, mntner, and person objects, including each > tunnel that the Applicant has. > >I am in the process of getting this done, not sure if it will work! > > b. Fully maintained, and reliable, BGP4+ peering and connectivity > between the Applicant's boundary router and the appropriate > connection point into the 6Bone. This router must be IPv6 > pingable. This criteria is judged by members of the 6Bone > Operations Group at the time of the Applicant's pTLA request. > >We are part of the QTPv6 experiment and are connected to 6TAP: > >Cern-atm7>sho bgp ipv6 sum > >Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ >Up/Down State/PfxRcd >3FFE:8036:80:2::2 > 4 513 99061 129788 277457 0 0 23:59:21 62 >3FFE:8038:80:10::1 > 4 8933 335778 107672 277455 0 0 4w0d 104 > >Ar2-chicago#sho bgp ipv6 sum > >Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down State/PfxR >3FFE:3900:9::1 4 3425 455796 140557 522614 0 0 1w1d 92 >3FFE:8036:80:2::1 > 4 513 442360 270971 522617 0 0 1d00h 74 > > > c. Fully maintained DNS forward (AAAA) and reverse (ip6.int) > entries for the Applicant's router(s) and at least one host > system. > >See: http://jmj.home.cern.ch/jmj/qtp/ipv6-fwd-zone.txt > http://jmj.home.cern.ch/jmj/qtp/ipv6-rev-zone.txt > > d. A fully maintained, and reliable, IPv6-accessible system > providing, at a mimimum, one or more web pages, describing the > Applicant's IPv6 services. This server must be IPv6 pingable. > >See: http://jmj.home.cern.ch/jmj/qtp/ipv6.htm > > 2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > This MUST include the following: > > a. A support staff of two persons minimum, three preferable, with > person attributes registered for each in the ipv6-site object > for the pTLA applicant. > >The composition of the support staff shall be retrievable from the 6bone >data base, which I hope will be complete presently. > > b. A common mailbox for support contact purposes that all support > staff have acess to, pointed to with a notify attribute in the > ipv6-site object for the pTLA Applicant. > >Mailbox will be: noc@cern.ch > > 3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in > support this claim. > >CERN has collaborations with many laboratories and universities in the >world. With the advent of LHC (regional computing centres, GRID), we need >efficient high bandwidth connections all over the world. > > 4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the > 6Bone backbone and user community. > >We do agree. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Joop Joosten, IT Division, CERN, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland | > |Tel: +41 22 767 3361; Fax: +41 22 767 7155; E-M: Joop.Joosten@cern.ch| > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jslagle@toledolink.com Fri Dec 1 23:48:46 2000 From: jslagle@toledolink.com (Jason) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:48:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: 6bone registry changeover to Viagenie web i/f In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201123527.03302760@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: Uck. I rather like being able to do this via email. Jason --- Jason Slagle - CCNA - CCDA Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - raistlin@tacorp.net - jslagle@toledolink.com - WHOIS JS10172 /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Bob Fink wrote: > 6bone registry users, > > We (Viagenie, David Kessens and me) are considering a change in the > registry procedures to using only the Viagenie web i/f for all creations, > changes and deletes. It would mean that email submittals to > auto-dbm@whois.6bone.net would no longer work, and that you would need to > changeover to CRYPT protected mntner objects. > > At the present time approx. half the registry traffic comes from the web > i/f, the other half from email submittal. > > Before we do this, we would like to know what you thinks of this. > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > From fink@es.net Sat Dec 2 03:38:07 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:38:07 -0800 Subject: 6bone registry changeover to Viagenie web i/f Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201193328.0305d588@imap2.es.net> I've already gotten enough email from folk not wanting the email interface to go away to tell me that it is a bad idea (David predicted this :-). So we will use both. I'll accomplish what I want, which is new users being pushed to the web i/f by just emphasizing that in the writeups and web page. Sorry to give everyone a panic attack. Thanks, Bob From poptix@POPTIX.NET Sat Dec 2 06:59:19 2000 From: poptix@POPTIX.NET (Matthew S. Hallacy) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:59:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Reverse DNS? Message-ID: Howdy, I'm currently trying to implement ipv6 on a test network involving wireless lans, cisco equipment, and misc desktop's (FreeBSD, Linux, etc al) where I work, as we're very interested in the mobility aspects of ipv6, we're currently peering with Stealth, and have a /48 allocated to us (3ffe:80c0:225::/48) but I've been unable to get any information regarding reverse DNS delegation, Stealth hasn't responded, and as far as I can tell, none of 3ffe:: is delegated beyond dot.ep.net. So I guess my question is, what's the current status of reverse DNS (globally) for ipv6? Matthew S. Hallacy XtraTyme Technologies From rrockell@sprint.net Mon Dec 4 15:25:24 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:25:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sprint outage today Message-ID: When: Today; 1300 EST. Who is affected: All customers homed to sprintlink (as well as peers). What: upgrade Software How much: Approximately 20 minutes (plus bgp work) Statically routed customers should be back up in 10-15 minutes. BGP customers can expect an outage of up to a half-hour. If you are a sprint customer, and have problems after this afternoon, please feel free to write directly, and I we will make sure to work to get you back in service. Why: Upgrading software to provide better filtering and customer functionality. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprint Internet Services Principal Engineer SprintLink Europe/Asia 703-689-6322 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU Mon Dec 4 16:09:24 2000 From: warrenm@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Warren Matthews) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 08:09:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: ip6fw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm setting up rules for ip6fw on a machine running FreeBSD 4.2-Release, and I'm having trouble getting router advertisements and solicitations through for smooth autoconfiguration. I see icmp type 134 from my ipv6 router to all ipv6 devices on the outside interface of the firewall (as expected), but nothing gets through to the machines connected to the inside interface. I have set allow ipv6-icmp from any to any and net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1 So I would expect the advertisements and solicitations to be accepted on one interface and sent out the other. I wonder about the TTL, but I would've thought (hoped) the firewall is transparent to allowable traffic. Has anyone done this, any suggestions ? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warren Matthews If ease of use was the highest goal, Principal Network Specialist we'd all be driving golf carts. Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. - Larry Wall. From rrockell@sprint.net Mon Dec 4 18:49:35 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:49:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sprint upgrade done Message-ID: Sprint software upgrade has been completed. If you feel that you are impacted by this still, please write to me privately, and we'll get you fixed. Looks like everyone that was up before remains up at this time. Have a great day. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprint Internet Services Principal Engineer SprintLink Europe/Asia 703-689-6322 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aprogas@mail.com Mon Dec 4 20:02:25 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:02:25 +0100 Subject: ip6fw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200012042002.eB4K2PD21161@mail.aprogas.cx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, Warren Matthews wrote: > I'm setting up rules for ip6fw on a machine running FreeBSD 4.2-Release, > and I'm having trouble getting router advertisements and solicitations > through for smooth autoconfiguration. > > I see icmp type 134 from my ipv6 router to all ipv6 devices on the > outside interface of the firewall (as expected), but nothing gets > through to the machines connected to the inside interface. I have set > > allow ipv6-icmp from any to any > > and > > net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1 > > So I would expect the advertisements and solicitations to be accepted on > one interface and sent out the other. I wonder about the TTL, but I > would've thought (hoped) the firewall is transparent to allowable > traffic. > > Has anyone done this, any suggestions ? I am interested in the rules before the ``allow ipv6-icmp from any to any'' rule. There is probably a rule disallowing the router advertisements and solicitations from getting through. You can also try to put ``log'' for all deny-rules so you see where exactly the packets are lost. - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6K/hRfuu+THq4fAIRAnzwAKDeXnXSXlp94xZY4RdZTHBqCyD5GACg7F/g 6o/XN3CHg0h0xJAKwQdii0I= =AJdb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul@timmins.net Mon Dec 4 21:00:56 2000 From: paul@timmins.net (Paul Timmins) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:00:56 -0500 Subject: Merit Contact Info Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001204155728.00afc308@198.87.147.223> I read in Merit's whois record that they are giving out tunnels and IPs, and I tried emailing the maintainer of the Whois info last week and received no reply. Is there a secret webpage I have to go to, or is there another contact I am supposed to email, or am I just being too jumpy and I should calm down and be patient? ;-) -Paul By Popular request I have moved my signature to: http://198.87.147.223/paulsig.txt Paul Timmins paul@timmins.net http://www.timmins.net/ ICQ#: 15422024 - Home 21888714 - Work Laptop "By definition, if you don't stand up for anything you stand for nothing" ---Paul Timmins From aprogas@mail.com Mon Dec 4 23:51:05 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 00:51:05 +0100 Subject: ip6fw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200012042351.eB4Np5421680@mail.aprogas.cx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, Warren Matthews wrote: > # ip6fw -a list > 24000 1455 46984 allow log ipv6-icmp from any to any > 32000 67343 49295534 allow log ipv6 from any to any > 65535 1 20 deny ipv6 from any to any > > In the log I see > > Dec 4 17:26:58 SCYLLA /kernel: ip6fw: 24000 Accept IPV6-ICMP:134.0 > [fe80::0210:7bff:feb5:8f41] [ff02::0001] in via xl0 > > (fe80::0210:7bff:feb5:8f41 is my router, xl0 is the outside interface) > > And > > # ifconfig xl0 > inet6 2001:400:808:1:210:5aff:fe78:267c prefixlen 64 > > but > > # ifconfig xl1 > inet6 fe80::2c0:4fff:fe04:27fe%xl1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > > (xl1 is the inside interface). I now get the idea that you are trying to forward router advertisements from one interface to another. Router advertisements are only suited for a local physical network (that is why the fe80 prefix is used), so you cannot forward them to another network on IP-level. If you want a LAN to get autoconfig'ed too, you must either have your own prefix and have your own advertising router; or you must compile in bridge support in your kernel (which will forward packets at physical network level). My ISP forbids all customers to use a kernel bridge function, since it seems to crash their switches and/or routers, so be careful when using it. :) - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6LC3pfuu+THq4fAIRAi6pAKC23nrNNIk3bXGZiN3JcW04Tk34EwCgs7Az WFCRoM8Jc0Lblh5do8JsaTI= =K8vK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie Wed Dec 6 12:51:21 2000 From: mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie (Mike Knell) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:51:21 +0000 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) Message-ID: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> Hi all, My apologies for splattercasting.. About six months ago, we were looking to do some IP6 experimentation here in TCD, and planning on joining the 6bone to gain some experience. Unfortunately, things have been a bit busy over the past few months, and I'm only now getting back to sorting things out... I had a couple of offers back then of tunnels, but as it's been so long I thought it was best to put out a fresh request -- can anyone supply us with a tunnel, and also a little address space, so we can get ourselves up and running? TCD is on the HEANET (AS1213), so the best bet would be someone either on JANET or one of the other TEN-155 connected academic networks -- we usually have 70ms-ish rtts to these parts of the world. Most other places involve going via our (very congested) US link. Thanks a million in advance, Mike -- Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ From Ivano.Guardini@CSELT.IT Wed Dec 6 14:41:56 2000 From: Ivano.Guardini@CSELT.IT (Guardini Ivano) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:41:56 +0100 Subject: New version of ASpath-tree available (v3.1) Message-ID: Hi all, this is just to inform you that a new version of ASpath-tree (v3.1) is now available for download at the following URL: http://carmen.ipv6.cselt.it/ipv6/download.html This new release fixes a bug for supporting Cisco IOS > 12 and includes minor code clean-up. --Ivano From pim@wise-guys.nl Wed Dec 6 17:51:30 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:51:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: ipv6-site class 'native' field Message-ID: <200012061751.SAA05333@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Dear David (6bone list), While starting out 6bone whois-db registration for Intouch, I read the draft (draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-registry-03.txt). This document explains the 'native:' field in the ipv6-site class. Unless I'm mistaken, this particular field is not accepted by the whois database software (via mail) and Viagenie's web frontend does not know about it either. I have currently set my native peers as tunnels, because I don't have any other means at the moment. Is this a known issue and are their any thoughts about native peers in the database ? CC: 6bone list regards, Pim van Pelt -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From clazo" Message-ID: <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. Christian. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Knell To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > Hi all, > > My apologies for splattercasting.. > > About six months ago, we were looking to do some IP6 experimentation here > in TCD, and planning on joining the 6bone to gain some experience. > > Unfortunately, things have been a bit busy over the past few months, and > I'm only now getting back to sorting things out... > > I had a couple of offers back then of tunnels, but as it's been so long > I thought it was best to put out a fresh request -- can anyone supply > us with a tunnel, and also a little address space, so we can get > ourselves up and running? > > TCD is on the HEANET (AS1213), so the best bet would be someone either > on JANET or one of the other TEN-155 connected academic networks -- we > usually have 70ms-ish rtts to these parts of the world. Most other > places involve going via our (very congested) US link. > > Thanks a million in advance, > Mike > > -- > Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland > mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ From peilei@MIT.EDU Wed Dec 6 20:02:13 2000 From: peilei@MIT.EDU (Peilei Fan) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:02:13 -0500 Subject: ipv6 web browser Message-ID: <200012062002.PAA13317@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> Hello there, Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or linux? Thanks. Peilei From brad@anduin.eldar.org Wed Dec 6 22:37:04 2000 From: brad@anduin.eldar.org (Brad Spencer) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:37:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: ipv6 web browser In-Reply-To: <200012062002.PAA13317@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> (message from Peilei Fan on Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:02:13 -0500) Message-ID: <200012062237.RAA11640@anduin.eldar.org> Hello there, Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or linux? Thanks. Peilei For text, Lynx is IPv6 ready. For more complicated browsers, Mozilla [although I don't know about Netscape 6] supports IPv6 as does mMosaic, if you can't or do not want to do Mozilla. Brad Spencer - brad@anduin.eldar.org http://anduin.eldar.org - & - http://mellon.ipv6.eldar.org [IPv6 only] [finger brad@anduin.eldar.org for PGP public key] From nealr@pensat.com Wed Dec 6 17:46:43 2000 From: nealr@pensat.com (neal rauhauser) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:46:43 +0000 Subject: ipv6 web browser References: <200012062002.PAA13317@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: <3A2E7B83.C294DCF0@pensat.com> If you get a response please tell the rest of us - I tried to build the latest mozilla with ipv6 patches on fbsd 4.1.1 and it was just nuts. Now that I've got ipv6 running all over the place it'd be nice to use it for something. Peilei Fan wrote: > Hello there, > > Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or > linux? > > Thanks. > > Peilei From ji@research.att.com Wed Dec 6 23:02:53 2000 From: ji@research.att.com (ji@research.att.com) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:02:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: ipv6 web browser Message-ID: <200012062302.SAA17030@bual.research.att.com> Believe it or not, mozilla actually does build on 4.1-stable, but you have to have ALL the necessary packages (gnome and stuff) at their current version. cvsup the latest ports tree, then do pkg_version -v to see which packages need to be updated. Do so and mozilla will build (it will take several hours on a fast machine with a fast disk, so be prepared to wait). /ji From jim@thehousleys.net Wed Dec 6 23:09:54 2000 From: jim@thehousleys.net (James Housley) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:09:54 -0500 Subject: ipv6 web browser References: <200012062002.PAA13317@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: <3A2EC742.40C919D1@thehousleys.net> Peilei Fan wrote: > > Hello there, > > Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or > linux? > /usr/ports/www/mozilla+ipv6 Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. From feico@pasta.cs.uit.no Thu Dec 7 02:51:14 2000 From: feico@pasta.cs.uit.no (Feico Dillema) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 03:51:14 +0100 Subject: ipv6 web browser In-Reply-To: <3A2EC742.40C919D1@thehousleys.net>; from jim@thehousleys.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 06:09:54PM -0500 References: <200012062002.PAA13317@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> <3A2EC742.40C919D1@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: <20001207035114.B24962@pasta.cs.uit.no> On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 06:09:54PM -0500, James Housley wrote: > Peilei Fan wrote: > > > > Hello there, > > > > Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or > > linux? > > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla+ipv6 My trick is to use IPv4-only browser (netscape, opera) with small www-proxy as frontend that does have v6 support. I used wwwoffle in the past (see NetBSD pkgsrc, ftp.kame.net or our ftp site (ftp://ftp.pasta.cs.uit.no:/pub/Vermicelli) for patches to wwwoffle. But wwwoffle is designed for caching and pre-fetching when behind a slow link like ISDN; it is a bit of a burden behind faster links, so... Last week I made a very minimal web-proxy just for the purpose of sitting in between a v4 only browser and a v6-network. Still needs some minor work, but already works quite ok. It is called www6to4 and can be found on our ftp-site too. Feico. From fink@es.net Thu Dec 7 03:46:23 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:46:23 -0800 Subject: ipv6-site class 'native' field In-Reply-To: <200012061751.SAA05333@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001206194545.00a78368@imap2.es.net> Pim, At 06:51 PM 12/6/2000 +0100, Pim van Pelt wrote: >Dear David (6bone list), > >While starting out 6bone whois-db registration for Intouch, I read the >draft (draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-registry-03.txt). This document explains >the 'native:' field in the ipv6-site class. > >Unless I'm mistaken, this particular field is not accepted by the whois >database software (via mail) and Viagenie's web frontend does not know >about it either. > >I have currently set my native peers as tunnels, because I don't have >any other means at the moment. Is this a known issue and are their any >thoughts about native peers in the database ? The native field isn't implemented yet. Using tunnels is the right thing for the moment. Bob From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Thu Dec 7 06:45:55 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 01:45:55 -0500 Subject: IPv6 root and gtld dns server available Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20001207013117.03e6b858@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> Hi, we are making available to the IPv6 community an IPv6 root and gtld dns server for experimental purposes. This will enable dns resolution using IPv6 up to the dns root level. This server is configured to be authoritative for the root zone and the gtld zones. This service is on a best effort basis and no garantee is given. One should not configure its production dns service pointing to this server. It is offered in order to help the IPv6 community to expand the testing of a full IPv6 network, without any IPv4 transport or service. Viagénie has no intent to offer any dns root server service and will shutdown the service as soon as the "real" root servers will support IPv6. Information on how to use the service is available at: http://www.viagenie.qc.ca/en/ipv6/dnsrs/utilisation.shtml. Generic information is available at: http://www.viagenie.qc.ca/fr/nouvelles/commdepresse/dnsrs_200011.shtml. This service is partly funded by Canarie and is located on the CA*net3 network. Regards, Marc. PS. special requests and support questions should be sent to dnsrs-support@viagenie.qc.ca. PS2. a mailing list for discussion on this service has been established and maintained by majordomo. Send a subscribe message to dnsrs-request@viagenie.qc.ca Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From ipng@uni-muenster.de Thu Dec 7 09:09:39 2000 From: ipng@uni-muenster.de (Christian Schild) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:09:39 +0100 (MET) Subject: ipv6 web browser In-Reply-To: <200012062237.RAA11640@anduin.eldar.org> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Brad, Peilei, On 06-Dec-2000 Brad Spencer wrote: > > Hello there, > > Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or > linux? > > Thanks. > > Peilei > > For text, Lynx is IPv6 ready. For more complicated browsers, Mozilla > [although I don't know about Netscape 6] supports IPv6 as does mMosaic, if > you can't or do not want to do Mozilla. Netscape 6 (linux version only!) is IPv6 ready, yes, but I really like to recommend using beonex communicator (http://www.beonex.de), which is a sibling to netscape6, but much smaller and without that useless advertising stuff. It is my standard browser now, and I'm quite pleased with it - I can use IPv6 addresses at least :-) Greetings, Christian - -- JOIN -- IP Version 6 in the WiN Christian Schild A DFN project Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster Project Team email: Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung join@uni-muenster.de Roentgenstrasse 9-13 http://www.join.uni-muenster.de D-48149 Muenster / Germany email: schild@uni-muenster.de, phone: +49 251 83 31638, fax: +49 251 83 31653 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOi9T0dez4smcZGP5AQFniwP+IaGJhc5FwKDFmbbl4wOvVyFPcEOnYgLU GQBikIbTboqvmc6rRI0Gqyh8PN2z1AGUk7QQz0gz3AWQIH0B8JBj1VbU8AbnpjU0 vsDVvWHKiLg65YUSnqhjo0IAK98ZUfKIsb+F7x1Bh7Ud0yladDmTWKcSn7yAPiht DUE8nlvlupQ= =WM2t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nealr@pensat.com Thu Dec 7 10:08:33 2000 From: nealr@pensat.com (neal rauhauser) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:08:33 +0000 Subject: ipv6 web browser References: Message-ID: <3A2F61A1.BE0C2BC4@pensat.com> I use the linux netscape binary on freebsd 4.1.1 - I went through the netscape ports when I installed 4.0-release and none of them were worthy of handling email. I am going to try the netscape6 linux binary under freebsd and then later when I have time I'll fool with the cvsup of ports and see how that stuff works. Thanks to all who replied for the prompt answers. Christian Schild wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hello Brad, Peilei, > > On 06-Dec-2000 Brad Spencer wrote: > > > > Hello there, > > > > Does anyone know where I can find a good ipv6 web browser for FreeBSD or > > linux? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Peilei > > > > For text, Lynx is IPv6 ready. For more complicated browsers, Mozilla > > [although I don't know about Netscape 6] supports IPv6 as does mMosaic, if > > you can't or do not want to do Mozilla. > > Netscape 6 (linux version only!) is IPv6 ready, yes, but I really like to > recommend using beonex communicator (http://www.beonex.de), which is a > sibling to netscape6, but much smaller and without that useless advertising > stuff. It is my standard browser now, and I'm quite pleased with it - I can > use IPv6 addresses at least :-) > > Greetings, > Christian > > - -- > JOIN -- IP Version 6 in the WiN Christian Schild > A DFN project Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster > Project Team email: Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung > join@uni-muenster.de Roentgenstrasse 9-13 > http://www.join.uni-muenster.de D-48149 Muenster / Germany > email: schild@uni-muenster.de, phone: +49 251 83 31638, fax: +49 251 83 31653 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3i > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBOi9T0dez4smcZGP5AQFniwP+IaGJhc5FwKDFmbbl4wOvVyFPcEOnYgLU > GQBikIbTboqvmc6rRI0Gqyh8PN2z1AGUk7QQz0gz3AWQIH0B8JBj1VbU8AbnpjU0 > vsDVvWHKiLg65YUSnqhjo0IAK98ZUfKIsb+F7x1Bh7Ud0yladDmTWKcSn7yAPiht > DUE8nlvlupQ= > =WM2t > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe Thu Dec 7 15:45:23 2000 From: jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe (Jose Munoz) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:45:23 -0500 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Message-ID: <3A2FB093.33099B7@inictel.gob.pe> Hola Christian: Te saludamos desde INICTEL, Perú. Aquí tambien estamos interesados en empezar proximamente pruebas con IPv6 en Linux y conectarnos al 6Bone, así que espero establezcamos contactos que sean de beneficio mutuo. Un abrazo José Luis Muñoz Meza. P.D.: Si alguien más está interesado en participar hablando español.... :0) clazo escribió: > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > Christian. From clazo" <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <3A2FB093.33099B7@inictel.gob.pe> Message-ID: <003701c0606e$6a93e400$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Hola me alegro mucho saber que existe mucha gente de habla hispana trabajando en el tema, por lo que sugiero que generemos un canal de comunicaciones para nosotros . No me mal interpreten no es que quiera ser separatista de 6bone@isi.edu, sino que es mucho mas facil para nosotros compartir experiencias en nuestra lengua, y por que no generar una red Ssdaca de 6bone... Si la idea prende yo podria montar un majordomo en alguna de mis maquinas y listooo.. ¿que les parece..? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Munoz To: clazo Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > Hola Christian: > > Te saludamos desde INICTEL, Perú. Aquí tambien estamos interesados en empezar > proximamente pruebas con IPv6 en Linux y conectarnos al 6Bone, así que espero > establezcamos contactos que sean de beneficio mutuo. > > Un abrazo > > José Luis Muñoz Meza. > > P.D.: Si alguien más está interesado en participar hablando español.... :0) > > > clazo escribió: > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > Christian. From jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe Thu Dec 7 16:05:54 2000 From: jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe (Jose Munoz) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:05:54 -0500 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <3A2FB093.33099B7@inictel.gob.pe> <003701c0606e$6a93e400$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Message-ID: <3A2FB562.8BF9EB01@inictel.gob.pe> clazo escribió: > Hola me alegro mucho saber que existe mucha gente de habla hispana > trabajando en el tema, por lo que sugiero que generemos un canal de > comunicaciones para nosotros . No me mal interpreten no es que quiera ser > separatista de 6bone@isi.edu, sino que es mucho mas facil para nosotros > compartir experiencias en nuestra lengua, y por que no generar una red > Ssdaca de 6bone... > > Si la idea prende yo podria montar un majordomo en alguna de mis maquinas y > listooo.. > ¿que les parece..? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose Munoz > To: clazo > Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > Hola Christian: > > > > Te saludamos desde INICTEL, Perú. Aquí tambien estamos interesados en > empezar > > proximamente pruebas con IPv6 en Linux y conectarnos al 6Bone, así que > espero > > establezcamos contactos que sean de beneficio mutuo. > > > > Un abrazo > > > > José Luis Muñoz Meza. > > > > P.D.: Si alguien más está interesado en participar hablando español.... > :0) > > > > > > clazo escribió: > > > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > > > Christian. Hola Christian: Es una excelente idea la de crear una lista en español, en realidad se me habia cruzado por la mente igual posibilidad, espero aparezcan más personas en breve. José Luis From claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov Thu Dec 7 16:28:09 2000 From: claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov (Claudia de Luna) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:28:09 -0800 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <3A2FB093.33099B7@inictel.gob.pe> Message-ID: <3A2FBA99.1361E607@jpl.nasa.gov> saludos de Los Angeles. Aqui estal la informacion que le mande a Christian. Espero que ayuda. claudia -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Tunnel/space request (repeat) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:21:57 -0800 From: Claudia de Luna To: clazo CC: dmf@unl.edu BCC: claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Christian, Lo entiendo pero no lo escribo mui bien. Has visto la infomacion del grupo trabajando con el 6bone en Internet 2? http://www.internet2.edu/ipv6/ Dale Finkelson organiza el grupo para Internet 2 y seria u buen contacto. Le mande tu mensage. Cual universidad representas y donde estas? No conozco cl. es colombia? buena suerte, claudia Jose Munoz wrote: > Hola Christian: > > Te saludamos desde INICTEL, Perú. Aquí tambien estamos interesados en empezar > proximamente pruebas con IPv6 en Linux y conectarnos al 6Bone, así que espero > establezcamos contactos que sean de beneficio mutuo. > > Un abrazo > > José Luis Muñoz Meza. > > P.D.: Si alguien más está interesado en participar hablando español.... :0) > > clazo escribió: > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > Christian. From clazo" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0606E.8AD1FAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pensamiento y accion se=F1ores.. como veo que somos varios los interesados en recibir informacion en = espa=F1ol me tome la libertad de generar la lista par intercambiar info. la lista es 6bone@inf.uach.cl para suscribirse manden mail a majordomo@inf.uach.cl y en el curerpo del correo debe decir subscribe 6bone los espero y saludos Christian. __________________ Christian Lazo Ramirez Intituto de Informatica Fac. Cs. de la Ingenieria Universidad Austral de Chile ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0606E.8AD1FAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0606E.8AD1FAE0-- From mark@noordzij.com Thu Dec 7 23:34:04 2000 From: mark@noordzij.com (Mark Noordzij) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:34:04 +0100 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) In-Reply-To: <3A2FBA99.1361E607@jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <000001c060a6$304c0560$020110ac@noordzij.com> sorry I don't know spanish... come on people Mark From brusso@phys.hawaii.edu Fri Dec 8 03:51:01 2000 From: brusso@phys.hawaii.edu (Brian Russo) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:51:01 -1000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?lista_en_espa=F1ol?= Message-ID: <20001207175101.G28185@uhhepr.phys.hawaii.edu> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:55:45PM -0400, clazo wrote: > Pensamiento y accion señores.. > > como veo que somos varios los interesados en recibir informacion en español > me tome la libertad de generar la lista par intercambiar info. > > la lista es 6bone@inf.uach.cl > para suscribirse manden mail a majordomo@inf.uach.cl > y en el curerpo del correo debe decir subscribe 6bone > > los espero y saludos > > Christian. On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 12:34:04AM +0100, Mark Noordzij wrote: > sorry I don't know spanish... come on people > > Mark disclaimer: i'm not great with spanish either.. Basically he's saying that he has created a spanish-language oriented 6bone mailing list, then he gives instructions.. the list is 6bone@inf.uach.cl to subscribe mail majordomo@inf.uach.cl and include in the message "subscribe 6bone" hopefully this helps someone - brian -- +------------------------------------------------------------- | Brian Russo GPG ID: 54D81666 | 404E 87E8 DD0C 275B 742B 09AD 2243 839C 54D8 1666 | http://www.phys.hawaii.edu/~brusso/gpg_brian.asc From rodolfo@fibertel.com.ar Tue Dec 12 03:13:58 2000 From: rodolfo@fibertel.com.ar (Rodolfo Alvarez) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:13:58 -0600 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Message-ID: <007601c063e9$91fadac0$1e00e818@fibertel.com.ar> Hola , a tambien me cuesta un poco el ingles. Yo tambien estoy interesado en experimentar con 6Bone, escribime que ya tengo algo por donde empezar Rodolfo ----- Original Message ----- From: "clazo" To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: RE: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > Christian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Knell > To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:51 AM > Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > My apologies for splattercasting.. > > > > About six months ago, we were looking to do some IP6 experimentation here > > in TCD, and planning on joining the 6bone to gain some experience. > > > > Unfortunately, things have been a bit busy over the past few months, and > > I'm only now getting back to sorting things out... > > > > I had a couple of offers back then of tunnels, but as it's been so long > > I thought it was best to put out a fresh request -- can anyone supply > > us with a tunnel, and also a little address space, so we can get > > ourselves up and running? > > > > TCD is on the HEANET (AS1213), so the best bet would be someone either > > on JANET or one of the other TEN-155 connected academic networks -- we > > usually have 70ms-ish rtts to these parts of the world. Most other > > places involve going via our (very congested) US link. > > > > Thanks a million in advance, > > Mike > > > > -- > > Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland > > mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ > From Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int Mon Dec 11 12:49:13 2000 From: Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int (Aad van der Zanden) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:49:13 +0100 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) In-Reply-To: <007601c063e9$91fadac0$1e00e818@fibertel.com.ar> References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001211134748.00b6cf00@lisa.nc3a.nato.int> Stick to English please? At 09:13 PM 12/11/00 -0600, Rodolfo Alvarez wrote: >Hola , a tambien me cuesta un poco el ingles. >Yo tambien estoy interesado en experimentar con 6Bone, escribime que ya >tengo algo por donde empezar > >Rodolfo > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "clazo" >To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:04 PM >Subject: RE: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > > > > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > Christian. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike Knell > > To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:51 AM > > Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > My apologies for splattercasting.. > > > > > > About six months ago, we were looking to do some IP6 experimentation >here > > > in TCD, and planning on joining the 6bone to gain some experience. > > > > > > Unfortunately, things have been a bit busy over the past few months, and > > > I'm only now getting back to sorting things out... > > > > > > I had a couple of offers back then of tunnels, but as it's been so long > > > I thought it was best to put out a fresh request -- can anyone supply > > > us with a tunnel, and also a little address space, so we can get > > > ourselves up and running? > > > > > > TCD is on the HEANET (AS1213), so the best bet would be someone either > > > on JANET or one of the other TEN-155 connected academic networks -- we > > > usually have 70ms-ish rtts to these parts of the world. Most other > > > places involve going via our (very congested) US link. > > > > > > Thanks a million in advance, > > > Mike > > > > > > -- > > > Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland > > > mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ > > =================================================================== / Aad van der Zanden. | POSTAL ADDRESS: / Communications Systems Division | / NATO C3 Agency | NATO C3 Agency / Email : Aad.van.der.Zanden@nc3a.nato.int | P.O. BOX 174 / Phone : +31 (0)70 3142440 | 2501 CD The Hague / Fax : +31 (0)70 3142176 | The Netherlands / ================================================================= / PGP FP: 57CA 5E23 E6EB 1375 3D2A 6FE0 B9B0 ED22 44A1 D279 =================================================================== From clazo" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01C06358.EE129140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pensamiento y accion se=F1ores.. como veo que somos varios los interesados en recibir informacion en = espa=F1ol me tome la libertad de generar la lista par intercambiar info. la lista es 6bone@inf.uach.cl para suscribirse manden mail a majordomo@inf.uach.cl y en el curerpo del correo debe decir subscribe 6bone =20 los espero y saludos Christian. __________________ Christian Lazo Ramirez Intituto de Informatica Fac. 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como veo que somos varios los = interesados=20 en recibir informacion en espa=F1ol
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la lista es 6bone@inf.uach.cl
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------=_NextPart_000_0163_01C06358.EE129140-- From baixauli@mat.upc.es Mon Dec 11 14:30:04 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (baixauli) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:30:04 +0100 Subject: linux configuration question Message-ID: <3A34E4EC.BAA42334@mat.upc.es> Hello. Anybody knows if an ethernet interface can be configured with an IPv6 address without be configured with IPv4 configuration? I would like to configure eth0 with only IPv6 address, but when I remove IPv4 address (with linuxconf) the interface goes down. I'm using RedHat 6.0 Thank you very much! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From gcampos@campus.cem.itesm.mx Mon Dec 11 15:29:02 2000 From: gcampos@campus.cem.itesm.mx (M. en C. Gabriela Campos) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:29:02 -0600 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <3A2FB093.33099B7@inictel.gob.pe> <3A2FBA99.1361E607@jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <3A34F2BE.1BA63858@campus.cem.itesm.mx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F17E2582750F8A9D32D3E1A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hola que tal: Yo soy Gabriela Campos de México. A mí también me interesa saber más sobre IPv6 y el status que actualmente tiene. Inclusive realize mi tesis de maestría haciendo una aplicación con este protocolo. Saludos desde México, Gaby. Claudia de Luna wrote: > saludos de Los Angeles. > > Aqui estal la informacion que le mande a Christian. > > Espero que ayuda. > > claudia > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:21:57 -0800 > From: Claudia de Luna > To: clazo > CC: dmf@unl.edu > BCC: claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov > References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> > <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> > > Christian, > > Lo entiendo pero no lo escribo mui bien. > > Has visto la infomacion del grupo trabajando con el 6bone en Internet 2? > > http://www.internet2.edu/ipv6/ > > Dale Finkelson organiza el grupo para Internet 2 y seria u buen > contacto. > > Le mande tu mensage. > > Cual universidad representas y donde estas? No conozco cl. es colombia? > > buena suerte, > > claudia > > Jose Munoz wrote: > > > Hola Christian: > > > > Te saludamos desde INICTEL, Perú. Aquí tambien estamos interesados en empezar > > proximamente pruebas con IPv6 en Linux y conectarnos al 6Bone, así que espero > > establezcamos contactos que sean de beneficio mutuo. > > > > Un abrazo > > > > José Luis Muñoz Meza. > > > > P.D.: Si alguien más está interesado en participar hablando español.... :0) > > > > clazo escribió: > > > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > > > Christian. --------------F17E2582750F8A9D32D3E1A8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="gcampos.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for M. en C. Gabriela Campos Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gcampos.vcf" begin:vcard n:Campos;Gabriela tel;fax:(52) 5864-5651 tel;work:(52) 5864-5672 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:ITESM Campus Estado de México;Sistemas de Información version:2.1 email;internet:gcampos@campus.cem.itesm.mx adr;quoted-printable:;;Carr. Lago de Guadalupe km 3.5,=0D=0AMargarita Maza de Ju=E1rez,=0D=0AAtizap=E1n, Edo. de M=E9xico=0D=0A;;;52926; fn:M. en C. Gabriela Campos end:vcard --------------F17E2582750F8A9D32D3E1A8-- From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Mon Dec 11 18:19:21 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:19:21 +0100 Subject: BGP4+ for IPv6 Message-ID: <200012111819.TAA72255@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> I'd like to get the Draft Standard status for RFC 2545, I need to list 4 implementations but I'd like to know what is available and/or used... My list begins by: - Cisco IOS - GateD - MRT - Zebra - Ericsson Telebit ... Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr From pim@wise-guys.nl Mon Dec 11 19:15:27 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:15:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: linux configuration question In-Reply-To: <3A34E4EC.BAA42334@mat.upc.es> from baixauli at "Dec 11, 2000 03:30:04 pm" Message-ID: <200012111915.UAA04624@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Julio, > > Hello. > > Anybody knows if an ethernet interface can be configured with an IPv6 > address without be configured with IPv4 configuration? sure. ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up ifconfig add eth0 3ffe:.../64 (remember to use EUI-64) Or, using the fine 'ip' utility, type something like: ip -6 addr add eth0 3ffe:.../64 If you have an advertising router on your wire, you can also just type 'ifconfig eth0 up' and it will use DAD (dynamic auto discovery) to configure the interface and bring it up. groet, Pim N.B. ip(8) can be fetched from ftp.inr.ac.ru, and needs Netlink in the kernel. -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov Mon Dec 11 22:54:35 2000 From: claudia.de.luna@jpl.nasa.gov (Claudia de Luna) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:54:35 -0800 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) References: <200012061251.MAA10887@relay.cs.tcd.ie> <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <007601c063e9$91fadac0$1e00e818@fibertel.com.ar> Message-ID: <3A355B2B.2A787150@jpl.nasa.gov> Christian's original message expressed an interest in participating in the ipv6 effort, particularly with I2 and requested some contact information. I sent him information on the I2 IPV6 working group. Other Spanish speaking people also interested in participating in this effort chimed in requesting information which I forwarded. In an effort to welcome them into the community (presumptuous I know) I sent them what information I had in the hope that it would be useful. I'm sorry to have caused such a controversy but I felt that nurturing their interest in participating outweighed any potential rudeness on my part by answering in Spanish. Rodolfo Alvarez wrote: > Hola , a tambien me cuesta un poco el ingles. > Yo tambien estoy interesado en experimentar con 6Bone, escribime que ya > tengo algo por donde empezar > > Rodolfo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "clazo" > To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:04 PM > Subject: RE: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > > > > > Hola hay alguien que entienda español en esta lista? > > > > > > estoy muy interesado en hacer experiencioas con 6 bone > > ademas estoy tratando de sacar uyn proyecto sobre internet 2 > > > > si hay algun interesado escriban a la lista. > > > > Christian. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike Knell > > To: <6bone@ISI.EDU> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:51 AM > > Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > My apologies for splattercasting.. > > > > > > About six months ago, we were looking to do some IP6 experimentation > here > > > in TCD, and planning on joining the 6bone to gain some experience. > > > > > > Unfortunately, things have been a bit busy over the past few months, and > > > I'm only now getting back to sorting things out... > > > > > > I had a couple of offers back then of tunnels, but as it's been so long > > > I thought it was best to put out a fresh request -- can anyone supply > > > us with a tunnel, and also a little address space, so we can get > > > ourselves up and running? > > > > > > TCD is on the HEANET (AS1213), so the best bet would be someone either > > > on JANET or one of the other TEN-155 connected academic networks -- we > > > usually have 70ms-ish rtts to these parts of the world. Most other > > > places involve going via our (very congested) US link. > > > > > > Thanks a million in advance, > > > Mike > > > > > > -- > > > Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland > > > mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ > > From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Mon Dec 11 22:54:13 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:54:13 +0100 Subject: BGP4+ for IPv6 In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:37:00 +0900. <13999.976570620@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <200012112254.XAA73279@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: there are couple of questions on RFC2545. not sure if this is the right forum to talk about this, but anyway, i'll try. => obviously this is not the right forum but the 6bone community is where most BGP4+ for IPv6 experience is... there are three addresses in BGP4+ configuration - you may want to clarify more. - TCP endpoint address RFC2545 says: this can be IPv4 or IPv6 (section 4, 1st paragraph). Q: is it okay if we use link-locals? (it can be good for EBGP peering, we need no global address on IX, we are free from renumber on IX segment) Q: site-local? => I'd like to answer any address that works then a link-local for eBGP seems reasonable. - first address in next hop field RFC2545 says: global IPv6 address (mandatory) => this must be a not-link-local address because of BGP constraints. - second address in next hop field => you should understand why the first address is not enough in some situations: BGP deals with global addresses and some implementations use *only* link-local addresses for gateways. Both are right but something is needed in order to make them to work together. RFC2545 says: linklocal IPv6 address (optional), only if two routers are adjacent (on-link) => the RFC2545 is more accurate. Q: onlink determination rule? (some reference should be enough) => the RFC2545 suggests "share a common subnet prefix", this works if there are no multi-link prefix (as it is the case today). Q: is it really necessary? => yes, without a link-local address you can't deal with some common cases: - eBGP with more than one peer on a shared link (IX Ethernet, ...) - IGP interaction when two iBGP peers are "too close". we need some more rules documented, to help implementers, regarding to IGP interaction, like: - if the first address in next hop field is a global address, and second address is not avaliable, => this should not happen, ie. if a link-local address is needed then it must be available. how should we pick the next hop field for IPv6 routing table (should/must be a link-local due to ICMPv6 issues) => can I answer to the question by another question. RFC 2545 specifies (the statement is hairy but very accurate): The link-local address shall be included in the Next Hop field if and only if the BGP speaker shares a common subnet with the entity identified by the global IPv6 address carried in the Network Address of Next Hop field and the peer the route is being advertised to. Do you know a case of this is wrong? also, from operational perspective, we may want to use addresses that are not eui64-based (to cope with ethernet card replacement). not sure if this needs to be documented or not. => I agree (both it is a good idea in some cases and this doesn't need to be documented). i bet jinmei and some other folks have more comment... => I'd like to know if something important needs to be changed in RFC2545. It has been used for years and as far as I know nobody has found a problem with it even if the context has changed (today we have a real IGP, OSPFng, and we can use capabilities in order to send IPv6 NLRIs to an IPv4 BGP speaker without crashing it, ie. we can negociate before :-). Thanks Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS: I believe you have an implementation (bgpd) I should add in my list. Have you any idea about its usage? In France we use Ciscos and a little number of GateD (less and less because we are moving to native IPv6 over ATM with dedicated PVC and routers). PPS: the hairy & accurate statement is far easier to implement than to understand (:-)! From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Tue Dec 12 01:11:32 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:11:32 +0100 Subject: BGP4+ for IPv6 In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:44:43 +0900. <20001211234443.128B77E23@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <200012120111.CAA73960@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: let us assume the following diagram: A --- B --- C (---: ethernet segment or whatever) A and C are peering with BGP4+. => I believe A and C are using iBGP between them and B is an IGP only router (this scenario is well known, it is the first which crashes until all iBGP/IGP bugs are fixed, this can take *time* :-). since A and C do not share the same link, they will exchange single address in next hop attribute, which is a global address. => yes we need to put link-local address into nexthop field in IPv6 routing table (like kernel routing table in BSD). so: - A will consult IGP routing table, understands that C is behind B, installs the following route: BGP route from C/prefixlen -> nexthop is B's linklocal (left leg) => I agree but the gateway field of a kernel route is not the same than the next-hop attribute of BGP (perhaps this is why I can't see a problem there?) - B will consult IGP routing table, understands that A is behind B, installs the following route: BGP route from A/prefixlen -> nexthop is B's linklocal (right leg) => B doesn't know BGP, usually in this scenario BGP is redistributed into the IGP (then B can choice between A and C) and A will see C (and C will see A) only when B will announce the reachability between them (the less obvious interaction between IGP and BGP). The redistribution uses link-local address (for instance when A will say "route this destination via me" it uses its own link-local address). If BGP and IGP conflict then you have two BGP speakers on the same link and you should be in the case where link-local must be in next-hop attributes (a common case with the self-next-hop hack). Thanks Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr From chrisb@kippona.com Tue Dec 12 03:17:28 2000 From: chrisb@kippona.com (Chris Beggy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:17:28 -0500 Subject: Tunnel/space request (repeat) In-Reply-To: <3A355B2B.2A787150@jpl.nasa.gov> References: <01a501c05fbf$cc0bc6d0$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> <007601c063e9$91fadac0$1e00e818@fibertel.com.ar> <3A355B2B.2A787150@jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20001211221728X.chrisb@kippona.com> From: Claudia de Luna > In an effort to welcome them into the community (presumptuous I know) I sent > them what information I had in the hope that it would be useful. > > I'm sorry to have caused such a controversy but I felt that nurturing their > interest in participating outweighed any potential rudeness on my part by > answering in Spanish. Thanks. I would have done the same if my Spanish were sufficient! Chris From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Tue Dec 12 05:44:07 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:44:07 +0100 Subject: BGP4+ for IPv6 In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:54:50 +0900. <20001212035450.802337E23@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <200012120544.GAA74816@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: > we need to put link-local address into nexthop field in IPv6 routing > table (like kernel routing table in BSD). so: > - A will consult IGP routing table, understands that C is behind B, > installs the following route: > BGP route from C/prefixlen -> nexthop is B's linklocal > (left leg) >=> I agree but the gateway field of a kernel route is not the same >than the next-hop attribute of BGP (perhaps this is why I can't see a >problem there?) what i am saying is, we need some guideline/whatever to implementers as to how to handle global address in nexthop attribute. i have seen many implementations that put global address (found on nexthop attribute) as is into the kernel routing table, which is not correct it seems. => I agree, the best way is to get the link-local address from the IGP (including the "static" IGP :-), ie. the gateway will be taken from the route to the iBGP peer. If no such route exists then the iBGP can't work... then it must exist. If BGP routes are redistributed into the IGP with a better precedence this issue disapears but the code should not rely on this (ie. "synchronization" must be correctly implemented). i'm not saying that "we need linklocal address in attribute, always" or whatever. => we agree... I don't believe RFC2545 needs clarifications, in fact the whole BGP4 with confederations, reflectors, IGP interactions, ... needs clarifications but in the operation area (ie. an informational RFC about BGP will be wellcome, IPv6 is not more complex, BGP is simply impossible to really understand for the newbie :-). Thanks Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS: fortunately current IPv6 networks are simpler than IPv4 networks... From baixauli@mat.upc.es Tue Dec 12 16:49:00 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:49:00 +0100 Subject: ipchains (linux) Message-ID: <3A3656FC.96CD841E@mat.upc.es> Hello! Is avaliable any version of ipchains (linux) that can handle IPv6 addresses? If not, how can I reject any packets from some addresses? Thank you very much! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From jch@oleane.net Tue Dec 12 22:14:55 2000 From: jch@oleane.net (Jean-Claude Christophe) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:14:55 +0100 Subject: ipchains (linux) In-Reply-To: <3A3656FC.96CD841E@mat.upc.es>; from baixauli@mat.upc.es on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 05:49:00PM +0100 References: <3A3656FC.96CD841E@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: <20001212231455.Q29361@oleane.net> > Is avaliable any version of ipchains (linux) that can handle IPv6 > addresses? If not, how can I reject any packets from some addresses? You can use the 'reject' option of 'route'. -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net / France Telecom Transpac From pim@wise-guys.nl Tue Dec 12 22:56:32 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:56:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: ipchains (linux) In-Reply-To: <3A3656FC.96CD841E@mat.upc.es> from Julio Baixauli at "Dec 12, 2000 05:49:00 pm" Message-ID: <200012122256.XAA14525@godfather.wise-guys.nl> > > Hello! > > Is avaliable any version of ipchains (linux) that can handle IPv6 > addresses? If not, how can I reject any packets from some addresses? > > Thank you very much! ipchains(8) does not handle IPv6 in Linux. You will have to wait for 2.4 with iptables support. groet, Pim -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From chuck+6bone@snew.com Tue Dec 12 23:33:02 2000 From: chuck+6bone@snew.com (Chuck Yerkes) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:33:02 -0800 Subject: RFC1918 equiv Message-ID: <20001212153302.A23225@snew.com> I know this was answered but a tragic disk death has taken away a lot of mail archives. I'm at a place that needs to start using IPv6, but isn't ready to try 6-bone. We need to setup a router/prefix advertising daemon and, therefore, need a prefix to offer the machines. I could make something up, but I've recovered too many companies from that in IPv4 land. What is an appropriate prefix to use for a non-routable IPv6 network? The moral equivalent of 10/8 or 192.168/16? Thanks chuck yerkes From hal@vailsys.com Wed Dec 13 03:25:28 2000 From: hal@vailsys.com (Hal Snyder) Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:25:28 -0600 Subject: RFC1918 equiv In-Reply-To: Chuck Yerkes's message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:33:02 -0800" References: <20001212153302.A23225@snew.com> Message-ID: <873dft80k7.fsf@ghidra.vail> Chuck Yerkes writes: > I'm at a place that needs to start using IPv6, but isn't ready > to try 6-bone. We need to setup a router/prefix advertising > daemon and, therefore, need a prefix to offer the machines. > I could make something up, but I've recovered too many companies > from that in IPv4 land. > > What is an appropriate prefix to use for a non-routable IPv6 > network? The moral equivalent of 10/8 or 192.168/16? I'd like to add to the question. RFC 1884 specifies fec0::/10 for site-local use. Yet the Kame implementation notes have this to say about site-local: Site-local address is very vaguely defined in the specs, and both specification and KAME code need tons of improvements to enable its actual use. For example, it is still very unclear how we define a site, or how we resolve hostnames in a site. There are work underway to define behavior of routers at site border, however, we have almost no code for site boundary node support (both forwarding nor routing) and we bet almost noone has. We recommend, at this moment, you to use global addresses for experiments - there are way too many pitfalls if you use site-local addresses. - http://www.dqc.org/cgi-bin/lxr/source/netinet6/IMPLEMENTATION This makes me wonder a) are there any signs of resolving the issues above and b) are people going ahead and addressing internal nets with fec0:: anyway? Kame's IPv6 stack is not the only one out there, but the note makes it sound like a general problem. From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Wed Dec 13 06:36:48 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:36:48 -0500 Subject: spam: quakev6 game during ietf Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20001212140159.045ace60@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> - In order to stretch the ipv6 network... ;-))) - and since many ipv6 people are in San Diego using wireless or wired connections and ipv6 is available on the network - and since game playing is as useful as writing an internet-draft or writing code ... ;-))) You are invited to play a quake ipv6-only (of course) game: time: wednesday Dec. 13th, evening, after ietf plenary (exact time not defined since plenary often stops before 22h00). So people outside of ietf can start the game anytime around 21h00 California time. where: quake v6 server is: quake.ipv6.viagenie.qc.ca (no ipv4 address) how: info on how/where/... to get a quake client for your platform (most platforms supported: windows, *bsd, linux, solaris, ...) http://www.viagenie.qc.ca/en/ipv6/quake/ipv6-quake.shtml See you there. My usual nickname is mpls (don't conclude anything with this nickname, please...) and I'm not the best quake killer...probably more a victim... Marc. Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From kre@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Dec 13 06:50:46 2000 From: kre@munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:50:46 +1100 Subject: RFC1918 equiv In-Reply-To: Your message of "12 Dec 2000 21:25:28 MDT." <873dft80k7.fsf@ghidra.vail> Message-ID: <9711.976690246@mundamutti.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:25:28 -0600 From: Hal Snyder Message-ID: <873dft80k7.fsf@ghidra.vail> | Chuck Yerkes writes: | | > What is an appropriate prefix to use for a non-routable IPv6 | > network? The moral equivalent of 10/8 or 192.168/16? | RFC 1884 specifies fec0::/10 for site-local use. That's the answer to the original question, but ... | Yet the Kame implementation notes have this to say about site-local: Yes, there is still a bunch more work to be done on site local. None of this affects the original question (for an isolated site) - for that the issues don't arise (there are no borders to cross, by definition, and nameservers can treat site-local just as they would treat global, which is what they currently do, etc). I believe that the KAME code (or any other working IPv6 code) is likely to work just fine using site local in an isolated (IPv6) net. Which isn't to say that the issues mentioned don't need to be worked on for the other intended use of site-locals (use for disconnected sites was always one intended use) - which is for allowing local net connections to be unaffected by global address changes (ie: using site-local addressing whenever talking within a site). kre From baixauli@mat.upc.es Wed Dec 13 10:26:58 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:26:58 +0100 Subject: ipchains (linux) References: <3A3656FC.96CD841E@mat.upc.es> <20001212231455.Q29361@oleane.net> Message-ID: <3A374EF2.6408373@mat.upc.es> Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: > > > Is avaliable any version of ipchains (linux) that can handle IPv6 > > addresses? If not, how can I reject any packets from some addresses? > > You can use the 'reject' option of 'route'. > I need to DROP, DENY, these packets, without a responses of error messages of any kind, like Destination-Unreachable or No-route-to-host. works route/reject like I need?? In the man page says reject is not for firewalling. Thank you very much for your suggestions. -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From aaguirre@zofri.cl Mon Dec 11 14:05:14 2000 From: aaguirre@zofri.cl (Armando Aguirre S.) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:05:14 -0400 Subject: database running on IPv6 References: <008201bf9d25$d77764a0$701270ca@loafer> Message-ID: <3A34DF1A.EFB422CC@zofri.cl> Mysql, at ftp.inf.utfsm.cl/pub/UTFSM/IPv6. I must create a README and INSTALL and then I'll publish it, maybe in a week or two. > Loafer wrote: > > Hello! > > Is avaliable any version of Database (FreeBSD, Linux) that can run on > IPv6? MySQL can run on Linux-x86, I didn´t test it on sparc. -- Armando S. Aguirre Schlick fono: (56 57) 515300 Coordinador de Proyectos de Desarrollo e Innovación Tecnológica Subgerencia de Informatica ZOFRI S.A. fax : (56 57) 515557 mailto:aaguirre@zofri.cl From fink@es.net Wed Dec 13 14:54:14 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:54:14 -0800 Subject: Tunnel contact In-Reply-To: <00c001bf9d4b$4ac3d7c0$701270ca@loafer> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001213065319.0288f3d8@imap2.es.net> At 05:02 PM 4/3/2000 +0800, Loafer wrote: >Hello! > Who can give me a list of tunnel-contact provider? I have setup the > LAN enviroment on IPv6 but never connect to global 6bone You can contact the mntner and person contacts of pTLA holders: Also, look at the freenet6 tunnel service. Bob From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Wed Dec 13 15:09:09 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:09:09 -0500 Subject: spam: quakev6 game during ietf In-Reply-To: <20001213100521.5AFFB7E23@starfruit.itojun.org> References: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20001213100811.05905d10@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> At/À 19:05 2000-12-13 +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino you wrote/vous écriviez: > >- In order to stretch the ipv6 network... ;-))) > >- and since many ipv6 people are in San Diego using wireless or wired > >connections and ipv6 is available on the network > >- and since game playing is as useful as writing an internet-draft or > >writing code ... ;-))) > > sorry, at this very moment IPv6 router at the IETF venue is down. > i'll try to recover it in early morning, dec13. well, don't rush, people can also use one of the tunnel brokers and servers. One of them is http://www.freenet6.net which is btw on the same lan as the quake server... ;-)) Marc. >itojun Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr Wed Dec 13 17:38:08 2000 From: Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:38:08 +0100 Subject: RFC1918 equiv In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:50:46 +1100. <9711.976690246@mundamutti.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: <200012131738.SAA80807@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: I believe that the KAME code (or any other working IPv6 code) is likely to work just fine using site local in an isolated (IPv6) net. => I agree, all the problems come when the node is multi-sited (ie. attached to multiple sites). If you have only one site and use 0 as site scope ID (non reason to use something else) no problem should harm you... Regards Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr PS: IMHO this is the only reasonnable way to use site-local stuff, even if I have done more than KAME in multi-sited support, I am far to provide a really usage thing, for instance there is no multi-site support in routing tools... From chuck+6bone@snew.com Wed Dec 13 18:09:15 2000 From: chuck+6bone@snew.com (chuck yerkes) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:09:15 -0800 Subject: RFC1918 equiv In-Reply-To: <200012131738.SAA80807@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr>; from Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 06:38:08PM +0100 References: <9711.976690246@mundamutti.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <200012131738.SAA80807@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> Message-ID: <20001213100915.A27374@snew.com> Any my point in this that there are 0 connections, but I want to get it into use internally before we actually attach to the 6bone. Quoting Francis Dupont (Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr): > In your previous mail he wrote: > => I agree, all the problems come when the node is multi-sited (ie. > attached to multiple sites). If you have only one site and use 0 > as site scope ID (non reason to use something else) no problem should > harm you... [...] > PS: IMHO this is the only reasonable way to use site-local stuff, > even if I have done more than KAME in multi-sited support, I am far > to provide a really usage thing, for instance there is no multi-site > support in routing tools... From richdr@microsoft.com Wed Dec 13 21:10:18 2000 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:10:18 -0800 Subject: RFC1918 equiv Message-ID: <7695E2F6903F7A41961F8CF888D87EA801719872@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> The KAME comment is not correct. The MS stack supports site-local addresses for hosts & routers, including draft-ietf-ipngwg-site-prefixes-04.txt draft-ietf-ipngwg-scoped-routing-03.txt draft-ietf-ipngwg-scopedaddr-format-02.txt draft-ietf-ipngwg-scoping-arch-01.txt Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal Snyder [mailto:hal@vailsys.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:25 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: RFC1918 equiv > > > Chuck Yerkes writes: > > > I'm at a place that needs to start using IPv6, but isn't ready > > to try 6-bone. We need to setup a router/prefix advertising > > daemon and, therefore, need a prefix to offer the machines. > > I could make something up, but I've recovered too many companies > > from that in IPv4 land. > > > > What is an appropriate prefix to use for a non-routable IPv6 > > network? The moral equivalent of 10/8 or 192.168/16? > > I'd like to add to the question. > > RFC 1884 specifies fec0::/10 for site-local use. > > Yet the Kame implementation notes have this to say about site-local: > > Site-local address is very vaguely defined in the specs, and both > specification and KAME code need tons of improvements to enable its > actual use. For example, it is still very unclear how we define a > site, or how we resolve hostnames in a site. There are work underway > to define behavior of routers at site border, however, we have > almost no code for site boundary node support (both forwarding nor > routing) and we bet almost noone has. We recommend, at this moment, > you to use global addresses for experiments - there are way too many > pitfalls if you use site-local addresses. > > - http://www.dqc.org/cgi-bin/lxr/source/netinet6/IMPLEMENTATION > > > This makes me wonder a) are there any signs of resolving the issues > above and b) are people going ahead and addressing internal nets with > fec0:: anyway? > > Kame's IPv6 stack is not the only one out there, but the note makes it > sound like a general problem. > From patjensen@mediaone.net Thu Dec 14 06:58:48 2000 From: patjensen@mediaone.net (Pat Jensen) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:58:48 -0800 Subject: Nortel/Bay Networks IPv6 Message-ID: <000001c0659b$4f077940$2a00a8c0@we.mediaone.net> Can anyone tell me if Nortel/Bay Network's Access Node (AN) product line supports IPv6? If so, could you please answer these questions? What version is required for IPv6 support? Where can I get it? How big is the image on flash? How much memory is required to run it? What features does it support? Does it support IPv6 in IPv4 tunnels? Thank you so much. I appreciate your help. Happy Holidays. -Pat From loafer@scut.edu.cn Fri Dec 15 08:58:34 2000 From: loafer@scut.edu.cn (Loafer) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:58:34 +0800 Subject: Who has the expierence to Configure Tunnel Between W2K and Nokia IP650 router Message-ID: <003a01c06675$349a5430$701270ca@loafer> Would you like to share me your expierence? thank you very much From baixauli@mat.upc.es Fri Dec 15 12:13:16 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:13:16 +0100 Subject: ftp server for test in 6bone? Message-ID: <3A3A0ADC.5DD8B40@mat.upc.es> Hello! Are there any ftp server in 6bone to test client FTP software? Has anybody test some FTP client in Linux (with Iv6, of course)? Any recommendations? Thank you very much! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From ipng@uni-muenster.de Fri Dec 15 12:31:17 2000 From: ipng@uni-muenster.de (Christian Schild) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:31:17 +0100 (MET) Subject: ftp server for test in 6bone? In-Reply-To: <3A3A0ADC.5DD8B40@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: Hello Julio, On 15-Dec-2000 Julio Baixauli wrote: > > Hello! > > Are there any ftp server in 6bone to test client FTP software? Please try ftp://ftp.ipv6.uni-muenster.de > Has anybody test some FTP client in Linux (with Iv6, of course)? Any > recommendations? I tested netscape6/beonex, lukemftp and ncftp(patched), but I couldn't rate one of them better than the other. Regards, Christian -- JOIN -- IP Version 6 in the WiN Christian Schild A DFN project Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster Project Team email: Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung join@uni-muenster.de Roentgenstrasse 9-13 http://www.join.uni-muenster.de D-48149 Muenster / Germany email: schild@uni-muenster.de, phone: +49 251 83 31638, fax: +49 251 83 31653 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fri Dec 15 13:43:50 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:43:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6-to-4 Message-ID: Greetings, Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am also looking into 6to4. Does anybody know, - Where I can find info on this? (websites, mailing-lists, newsgroups) - Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something address) I can ping? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 From baixauli@mat.upc.es Fri Dec 15 15:13:24 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:13:24 +0100 Subject: ftp server for test in 6bone? References: Message-ID: <3A3A3514.8E93C861@mat.upc.es> Christian Schild wrote: > > Hello Julio, > > On 15-Dec-2000 Julio Baixauli wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Are there any ftp server in 6bone to test client FTP software? > > Please try ftp://ftp.ipv6.uni-muenster.de > > > Has anybody test some FTP client in Linux (with Iv6, of course)? Any > > recommendations? > > I tested netscape6/beonex, lukemftp and ncftp(patched), but I couldn't rate > one of them better than the other. > > Regards, > Christian ftp.ipv6.uni-muenster.de & lukemftp works fine! Thank you very much! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From baixauli@mat.upc.es Fri Dec 15 15:57:44 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:57:44 +0100 Subject: New question about IPv4-mapped addresses References: Message-ID: <3A3A3F78.BE478941@mat.upc.es> toenjes@aix550.informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: > > URL: ftp://6bone.informatik.uni-leipzig.de > > I tested also mozilla and wget. It works fine. > Thank you very much for your multiple suggestions. Now, I've a problem with lukemftp. I need to work with IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses because I'm developing a SIIT software (see RFC 2765). Lukemftp traduces these addresses to IPv4 addresses, and try to do the comunication in IPv4. Are there any aplication (ftp or other) that use IPv4-mapped IPv6 native addresses that I can use to test my software? Again, thank you very much! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From John Wright Fri Dec 15 16:27:59 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:27:59 +0000 Subject: ftp server for test in 6bone? In-Reply-To: ; from ipng@uni-muenster.de on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 01:31:17PM +0100 References: <3A3A0ADC.5DD8B40@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: <20001215162759.G32727@dryfish.org> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 01:31:17PM +0100, Christian Schild wrote: > Hello Julio, > > On 15-Dec-2000 Julio Baixauli wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Are there any ftp server in 6bone to test client FTP software? > > Please try ftp://ftp.ipv6.uni-muenster.de ftp.kame.net also. Both ipv6 and ipv4 DNS so make sure you connect to the right one. > > Has anybody test some FTP client in Linux (with Iv6, of course)? Any > > recommendations? > > I tested netscape6/beonex, lukemftp and ncftp(patched), but I couldn't rate > one of them better than the other. I think debian/woody is getting a bit of ipv6 support (certainly telnet is) so you might like to try the odd package from there. From pim@wise-guys.nl Fri Dec 15 16:52:50 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:52:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 software (was: ftp server for test in 6bone?) In-Reply-To: from Christian Schild at "Dec 15, 2000 01:31:17 pm" Message-ID: <200012151652.RAA13873@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Julio, others, An excellent website for finding IPv6 enabled applications is: http://bofh.st/ipv6/ By Wim Vandersmissen (Belgium). Using this page, you can find patches for lftp/ncftp and various ftp-servers also. groet, Pim van Pelt -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From John Wright Fri Dec 15 17:26:48 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:26:48 +0000 Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: ; from kristoff.bonne@skypro.be on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:43:50PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001215172648.I32727@dryfish.org> man faith On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:43:50PM +0100, Kristoff Bonne wrote: > Greetings, > > Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am also looking > into 6to4. > > Does anybody know, > - Where I can find info on this? (websites, mailing-lists, newsgroups) > - Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. > - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something > address) I can ping? > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone > (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN > kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 > > From jeff@muzi.com Fri Dec 15 19:41:09 2000 From: jeff@muzi.com (Li Hong) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:41:09 +0800 Subject: gif interface Message-ID: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> Hi, I am confused how to enable gif interface in my freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? Jeff -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.muzi.com Powered by Outblaze From patjensen@mediaone.net Fri Dec 15 21:53:51 2000 From: patjensen@mediaone.net (Pat Jensen) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:53:51 -0800 Subject: gif interface In-Reply-To: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> Message-ID: <000201c066e1$837f32c0$2a00a8c0@we.mediaone.net> Make sure that you have IPv6 and GIF interfaces enabled in your kernel. They should work fine if you are using the stock GENERIC kernel. Then, follow the following process: Configure Ethernet ifconfig le0 inet6 your:local:ethernet:address Configure Tunnel(s) ifconfig gif0 giftunnel ipv4.src.ip ipv4.dst.ip ifconfig gif0 inet6 ipv6:src:ip ipv6:dst:ip Configure Default Gateway route add -inet6 default ipv6:dst:ip And you'll be all set. Hope this helps. Happy Holidays. -Pat -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Li Hong Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:41 AM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: gif interface Hi, I am confused how to enable gif interface in my freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? Jeff -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.muzi.com Powered by Outblaze From jch@oleane.net Fri Dec 15 22:24:30 2000 From: jch@oleane.net (Jean-Claude Christophe) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:24:30 +0100 Subject: gif interface In-Reply-To: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com>; from jeff@muzi.com on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:41:09AM +0800 References: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> Message-ID: <20001215232430.G13743@oleane.net> > I am confused how to enable gif interface in my > freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? Easy. Add 'pseudo-device gif 4' and 'options INET6' in your kernel configuration file. recompile it, and reboot. After that, configure your gif0 interface for example like this: gifconfig gif0 inet ifconfig gif0 inet6 prefixlen 128 alias route add -inet6 default For testing, try: ping6 -n It may work, good luck. -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net From aprogas@mail.com Fri Dec 15 22:29:32 2000 From: aprogas@mail.com (Jasper Jongmans) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:29:32 +0100 Subject: gif interface In-Reply-To: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> References: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> Message-ID: <200012152229.eBFMTXo20789@mail.aprogas.cx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Li Hong wrote: > I am confused how to enable gif interface in my > freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? Read /sys/i386/conf/LINT en edit /sys/i386/conf/KERNEL_NAME. To use it put the proper gifconfig and ifconfig lines in your rc.conf (check /etc/defaults/rc.conf for some info; man 5 rc.conf won't help I think, last time I checked it, it did not contain the IPv6-related options). - -- Jasper Jongmans aprogas@mail.com Website http://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/~aprogas/ PGP public key ftp://aprogas.student.utwente.nl/keys/pgp_dss.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6OptMfuu+THq4fAIRAuq3AJ41duVJ05wf6THG45XDSQVoyLucOACfcIum cuGLg9y1HvawdvUk2I/fS0c= =osoN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From goddardm@home.com Fri Dec 15 22:47:19 2000 From: goddardm@home.com (Matthew Goddard) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:47:19 -0500 Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The best resource i have found for 6to4 that makes it pretty easy is here: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/ Even has info on setting it up as well as the Public tunnel destinations. Matthew Goddard goddardm@home.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:44 AM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: 6-to-4 Greetings, Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am also looking into 6to4. Does anybody know, - Where I can find info on this? (websites, mailing-lists, newsgroups) - Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something address) I can ping? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 From pim@wise-guys.nl Fri Dec 15 23:09:03 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:09:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: gif interface In-Reply-To: <20001215194109.79140.qmail@muzi.com> from Li Hong at "Dec 16, 2000 03:41:09 am" Message-ID: <200012152309.AAA11991@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Dear Jeff, > Hi, > > I am confused how to enable gif interface in my > freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? For help on manual setups on various unix-alike Operating Systems, please visit http://www.ipng.nl/, section OS Setup. For FreeBSD, things go something like: # gifconfig gif0 # ifconfig gif0 inet6 prefixlen Normally, you would also say something like: # route add -inet6 default and, if you plan to route traffic, you'd set your primary ethernet card to some address: # ifconfig fxp0 inet6 prefixlen # sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1 This last statement tells the kernel to forward IPv6 packets between interfaces (in your case between fxp0 and gif0) regards, Pim van Pelt -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From oliver.michael@gargantuan.com Fri Dec 15 23:26:05 2000 From: oliver.michael@gargantuan.com (Michael W. Oliver) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:26:05 -0500 Subject: 6-to-4 Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C066C4.7C7CA2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try this one..... 2002:181c:15d9:3::dead:beef = Michael W. Oliver = mailto:oliver.michael@gargantuan.com = http://michael.gargantuan.com/ = Page me at mailto:1570482@skytel.com = ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:44 AM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: 6-to-4 Greetings, Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am also looking into 6to4. Does anybody know, - Where I can find info on this? (websites, mailing-lists, newsgroups) - Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something address) I can ping? Cheerio! Kr. 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If you are using FreeBSD 4.0+, see /etc/defaults/rc.conf, there are lines about configure gifs. Or you can write a script using ifconfig + gifconfig to setup your tunnel. Best Haisang ______________________________________________ Haisang Wu CERNET IPv6 Testbed Operation Team Central Mainbuilding Room 307 Tsinghua University Beijing P.R.China Zipcode: 100084 Phone: 62785814-525(O) BP: 191-1134725 email: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn ______________________________________________ > -----????----- > ???: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]?? Li Hong > ????: 2000?12?15? 11:41 > ???: 6bone@ISI.EDU > ??: gif interface > > > Hi, > > I am confused how to enable gif interface in my > freebsd box? Can someone give me a clue? > > Jeff > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.muzi.com > Powered by Outblaze From nhua@biigroup.com Sat Dec 16 07:09:37 2000 From: nhua@biigroup.com (huaning(bii)) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:09:37 +0800 Subject: ipv6-site registration problem Message-ID: <009401c0672f$27686210$9d076aca@hmobile> Hi.Bob. I encountered a registration problem when I tried to register a ipv6-site object in 6bone databse. The error message said % ERROR: ***You are not authorized to do network updates*** and My register info is : ipv6-site: BII origin: AS10109 descr: BII Group Holdings Ltd IPv6 Testbed contact: HN2-6BONE mnt-by: MNT-BII changed: nhua@biigroup.com 20001215 source: 6BONE country: CN prefix: 3ffe:510::/32 What's the matter ? How can I solve the problem? Thank you. _________________________________________________ Hua Ning Beijing Internet-networking Institute(BII Group Holdings Ltd), 110E 11F China Merchants Tower, No.2 Dong Huan Nan Lu, Chao Yang District, Beijing,China Zip Code: 100022 Tel:+86-10-65660290-223 Fax:+86-10-65660297 _________________________________________________ From richdr@microsoft.com Fri Dec 15 22:51:58 2000 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:51:58 -0800 Subject: 6-to-4 Message-ID: <7695E2F6903F7A41961F8CF888D87EA80130CA74@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> See http://www.6bone.net/6bone_6to4.html. Unfortunately doesn't say anything about OpenBSD. For an 6to4 host, try ipv6.research.microsoft.com. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bonne@skypro.be] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:44 AM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: 6-to-4 > > > Greetings, > > Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am > also looking > into 6to4. > > Does anybody know, > - Where I can find info on this? (websites, mailing-lists, newsgroups) > - Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. > - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something > address) I can ping? > > > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > -- > KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone > (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN > kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 > > From John Wright Sat Dec 16 10:53:01 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:53:01 +0000 Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: <20001215203825.27D3D7E23@starfruit.itojun.org>; from itojun@iijlab.net on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 05:38:25AM +0900 References: <20001215172648.I32727@dryfish.org> <20001215203825.27D3D7E23@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <20001216105301.A10187@dryfish.org> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 05:38:25AM +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >man faith > > no, that is different thing. faith(4) and faithd(8) implements > draft-ietf-ngtrans-tcpudp-relay-02.txt, while the guy is asking But: NAME faith - IPv6-to-IPv4 TCP relay capturing interface and: NAME faithd - FAITH IPv6/v4 translator daemon ?! From rrockell@sprint.net Sat Dec 16 18:28:49 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:28:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: attn: pTLA's Message-ID: please check your filters and allow 2001:440::/35. Sprint will now be announcing both 3ffe:2900::/24 and 2001:440::/35 to go along with our native deployement plans. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprint Internet Services Principal Engineer SprintLink Europe/Asia 703-689-6322 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart@mfnx.net Sat Dec 16 21:34:01 2000 From: stuart@mfnx.net (Stephen Stuart) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:34:01 -0800 Subject: attn: pTLA's In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:28:49 EST." Message-ID: <200012162134.eBGLY1714729@hi.tech.org> > please check your filters and allow 2001:440::/35. Sprint will now be > announcing both > > 3ffe:2900::/24 > and > 2001:440::/35 > > to go along with our native deployement plans. To generalize a bit, adding a "permit 2001::/16 ge 35 le 35" to filters would probably be prudent at this point. Stephen From John Wright Sat Dec 16 23:05:00 2000 From: John Wright (John Wright) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:05:00 +0000 Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: <20001216144553.35AA17E23@starfruit.itojun.org>; from itojun@iijlab.net on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 11:45:53PM +0900 References: <20001216105301.A10187@dryfish.org> <20001216144553.35AA17E23@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <20001216230500.A28325@dryfish.org> > [...] > Yes, this is VERY confusing. however, they are different, and here we > are talking about the former, not the latter. In that case the following from kame source tree's IMPLEMENTATION file: ---8<--- draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-06.txt: Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds without Explicit Tunnels * "stf" interface implements it. Be sure to read the next item before configuring it, there are security issues. draft-itojun-ipv6-transition-abuse-01.txt: Possible abuse against IPv6 transition technologies * KAME does not implement RFC1933/2893 automatic tunnel. * "stf" interface implements some address filters. Refer to stf(4) for details. Since there's no way to make 6to4 interface 100% secure, we do not include "stf" interface into GENERIC.v6 compilation. * kame/openbsd completely disables IPv4 mapped address support. * kame/netbsd makes IPv4 mapped address support off by default. * See section 1.12.6 and 1.14 for more details. ---8<--- Security issues will obviously make OpenBSD suspicious about implementing them and hence they have disabled this stf interface. From patjensen@mediaone.net Sun Dec 17 03:54:41 2000 From: patjensen@mediaone.net (Pat Jensen) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:54:41 -0800 Subject: Zebra Issue? Message-ID: <000a01c067dd$16801520$2a00a8c0@we.mediaone.net> Is anyone peering with Cisco using Zebra? I have a BGP session established with Sprintlink, but whenever I key in my BGP neighbor address for Cisco, Zebra immediately core dumps. I have a distribution list in place so I am not sending any updates except for my Cisco assigned block to Cisco. It dies according to the logfile, right after I receive an update from Cisco that points to an aggregated block for my network (3ffe:c00:8017::/48) Is Cisco is running a newer version of IOS? And Zebra doesn't support negotiating a newer feature? Any Zebra experts out there? Happy Holidays! -Pat Here is my Zebra configuration: hostname FUnix-BGP log file bgpd.log service password-encryption ! router bgp 1999 bgp router-id 10.0.0.1 ipv6 bgp network 3ffe:2900:e006::/48 ipv6 bgp network 3ffe:C00:8017::/48 ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:e:6::1 remote-as 6175 ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:e:6::1 description Sprint IPv6 NOC ipv6 bgp neighbor 3ffe:2900:e:6::1 distribute-list sprintout out ipv6 bgp neighbor 3FFE:C00:E:17::1 remote-as 109 ipv6 bgp neighbor 3FFE:C00:E:17::1 description Cisco IPv6 NOC ipv6 bgp neighbor 3FFE:C00:E:17::1 distribute-list ciscoout out ! ipv6 access-list all permit any ipv6 access-list sprintout permit 3ffe:2900:e006::/48 ipv6 access-list ciscoout permit 3ffe:c00:8017::/48 And Zebra log: 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Withdraw:SEND] 3ffe:1f00::/24 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Update:RECV] 2001:610::/35 nexthop: 0 .0.0.0 mp_nexthop: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1(fe80::c01f:768) aspath: 109 1849 1103 i 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Withdraw:SEND] 2001:610::/35 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Update:RECV] 3ffe:600::/24 nexthop: 0 .0.0.0 mp_nexthop: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1(fe80::c01f:768) aspath: 109 1849 1103 i 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Withdraw:SEND] 3ffe:600::/24 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Update:RECV] 3ffe:3900::/24 nexthop: 0.0.0.0 mp_nexthop: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1(fe80::c01f:768) aggregator: 206.220.240.226 [3425] aspath: 109 293 3425 i 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Withdraw:SEND] 3ffe:3900::/24 2000/12/16 19:38:33 BGP: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1 [Update:RECV] 3ffe:c00::/24 nexthop: 0 .0.0.0 mp_nexthop: 3ffe:c00:e:17::1(fe80::c01f:768) aspath: 109 i From rrockell@sprint.net Sun Dec 17 06:28:11 2000 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert J. Rockell) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:28:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: looks like some hung routes Message-ID: in an effort to fix something, it looks like I leaked a bunch of routes in the 3ffe:2900::/24 space (many /48's). I have gathered a list of ASN's that appear to be still advertising them. Please look at your tables if you are a pTLA, and make sure that there are no longer any more specifics out of 3ffe:2900::/24. Things should be filtered according to rfc2772 at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience. If I don't see them clear up in a few days, I'll release the list of ASN's that have the stuck routes. I encourage all pTLA's to filter inbound and outbound, via 2772. please see the document if you have not read it www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2772.txt thanks. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprint Internet Services Principal Engineer SprintLink Europe/Asia 703-689-6322 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Sat Dec 16 23:23:52 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:23:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: <20001215164713.E2B287E23@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: Greetings, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: < >> >Next to IPv6-connectivity via BGP-4+ thrue the 6bone, I am also >> looking into 6to4. ... >>- Especially concerning using OpenBSD for 6to4. > there's no support for 6to4 in OpenBSD 2.7/2.8. There indead is not 'stf' (six to four) interface in the default installation of OpenBSD, but I am still trying to find out if this is because it is not supported on OpenBSD at all (it's part of the KAME-software, so why would the OpenBSD-people have removed it), or is has been removed from the default installation. (There has been a security-warning of the stf-interface, and considering OpenBSD's security commitment ...) Anycase, -at first- I actually wanted to try FreeBSD, bit -for some reason- these siemens 'scenic' boxes hang up when during the freebsd-installation (at the moment the ethernet-interface is configured). Neither Linux nor OpenBSD have any problem at all, so it's not a real 'hardware' problem. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Sat Dec 16 23:16:21 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:16:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >> - Does anybody know of 6-to-4 hosts (hence, with a 2002::/16-something >> address) I can ping? > 2002:181c:15d9:3::dead:beef Great IP-address ;-) Anycase, A "thanks" to everybody who replied to my question. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 From kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Sun Dec 17 10:37:52 2000 From: kristoff.bonne@skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:37:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: 6-to-4 In-Reply-To: <20001216230500.A28325@dryfish.org> Message-ID: Greetings, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, John Wright wrote: > draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-06.txt: > Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds without Explicit Tunnels > * "stf" interface implements it. Be sure to read the next item before > configuring it, there are security issues. > draft-itojun-ipv6-transition-abuse-01.txt: > Possible abuse against IPv6 transition technologies > * KAME does not implement RFC1933/2893 automatic tunnel. > * "stf" interface implements some address filters. Refer to stf(4) > for details. Since there's no way to make 6to4 interface 100% secure, > we do not include "stf" interface into GENERIC.v6 compilation. So I guess I need to re-compile the kernel. ;-) Anycase, I do not really understand the problems with this for 6to4. When you sent a IPv6-packet to (say) 2002:c300:01ff:x:x:x:x:x, it get tunned to 195.0.0.255, which is a IPv4 broadcast-address. But, that packet will not get anywhere, as it will be filtered out by the Ipv4-router servicing that IP-subnet if it has 'no ip-directed-broadcast' enabled'. After the wave of smurf-attacks last-year (which work on a simular principle), almost every ISP has this enabled. > * kame/openbsd completely disables IPv4 mapped address support. AFAIK, IPv4-enabled addresses are not the same thing as 6to4. > Security issues will obviously make OpenBSD suspicious about implementing > them and hence they have disabled this stf interface. I just hope it is still in the code; so I just need to re-compile the kernel. Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- KB905-RIPE belgacom internet backbone (c=be,a=rtt,p=rttipc,s=Bonne,g=Kristoff) Internet, IP and IP/VPN kristoff.bonne@skypro.be Fax: +32 2 2435122 From fink@es.net Mon Dec 18 02:56:00 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:56:00 -0800 Subject: new 6bone pTLA's allocated Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001217185223.023a4650@imap2.es.net> The comment period for both INTOUCH-NL and CERN pTLA's has passed with no comments. Thus I have assigned their pTLA's as follows: INTOUCH-NL 3FFE:8200::/28 CERN 3FFE:8300::/28 It will be a short while before they make the appropriate reigstry entries. Thanks, Bob From baixauli@mat.upc.es Mon Dec 18 13:13:42 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:13:42 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses Message-ID: <3A3E0D86.68A447A@mat.upc.es> Hello! I need an explanation about IPv4-mapped addresses... I'm programming a client application for test purposes. Basically, I open a socket and connect that socket to an IPv6 address. Next, I read characters from that socket. There is no problems when I try to connect to global-scope addresses, like 3ffe:XXXXXXXXXX. In this cases I can connect. The problem comes when I try to connect to IPv4-mapped addresses. In this cases connect returns 'no route to host' or 'network is unreachable'. This is false!! because I add a route to IPv4-mapped addresses, and when I ping these addresses I can see, at least, ICMP Neighbor Solicitation, for the gateway, on the net. So... what's failing? Do kernel any diferences between raw-sockets (ping) and stream-sockets (tcp)? Are there any implications with IPv4-mapped addresses? I've no idea about what happens... Thank you very much, and I'm sorry for my horrible english. -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From crawdad@fnal.gov Mon Dec 18 17:36:45 2000 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:36:45 -0600 Subject: new 6bone pTLA's allocated In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:56:00 PST. <5.0.0.25.0.20001217185223.023a4650@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <200012181736.LAA00464@gungnir.fnal.gov> > The comment period for both INTOUCH-NL and CERN pTLA's has passed with no > comments. Thus I have assigned their pTLA's as follows: Hey now! I know I sent a comment about one of those! But it was a supportive comment, so no harm done. From fink@es.net Mon Dec 18 20:32:16 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:32:16 -0800 Subject: new 6bone pTLA's allocated In-Reply-To: <200012181736.LAA00464@gungnir.fnal.gov> References: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001218123154.0279b8a8@imap2.es.net> At 11:36 AM 12/18/2000 -0600, Matt Crawford wrote: > > The comment period for both INTOUCH-NL and CERN pTLA's has passed with no > > comments. Thus I have assigned their pTLA's as follows: > >Hey now! I know I sent a comment about one of those! > >But it was a supportive comment, so no harm done. You are correct! I meant to say no negative comments :-) Thanks, Bob From fink@es.net Mon Dec 18 20:47:48 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:47:48 -0800 Subject: new 6bone pTLA's allocated - correction Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001218124433.027a5a38@imap2.es.net> 6bone folk, Fortunately ville of Stealth Communications pointed out to me that I had mis-allocated the two new pTLA's for INTOUCH-NL and CERN. Asleep at the helm I guess :-) I allocated: INTOUCH-NL 3FFE:8200::/28 CERN 3FFE:8300::/28 But it should really be: INTOUCH-NL 3FFE:8110::/28 CERN 3FFE:8120::/28 Sorry for the confusion, and thanks again to ville! Bob From pim@wise-guys.nl Mon Dec 18 21:01:42 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:01:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: new 6bone pTLA's allocated - correction In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001218124433.027a5a38@imap2.es.net> from Bob Fink at "Dec 18, 2000 12:47:48 pm" Message-ID: <200012182101.WAA16934@godfather.wise-guys.nl> > 6bone folk, > > Fortunately ville of Stealth Communications pointed out to me that I had > mis-allocated the two new pTLA's for INTOUCH-NL and CERN. Asleep at the > helm I guess :-) AIEE. :( I am changing router and DNS to reflect this. Thanks viha. groet, Pim -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn Tue Dec 19 02:20:49 2000 From: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn (Haisang Wu) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:20:49 +0800 (CST) Subject: What's wrong with 3ffe:2900::/24 Message-ID: <200012190220.KAA12759@ns.6test.edu.cn> hi, dear all: I remember someone said several days ago that 3ffe:2900::/ was in trouble. But I could not remember what they told us to do. Some records in my routing table are strange. It seems that they should not appear here. 3ffe:2900:1::8/126 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::c/126 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::10/126 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::14/126 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::1c/126 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::28/127 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:1::2c/127 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:2::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:3::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:6::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:7::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:8::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a::/48 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:2::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:3::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:4::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:5::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:7::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:9::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:a::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 3ffe:2900:a:b::/64 3ffe:3200:2:fffe::1 UG1c gif0 Could anyone give me some suggestion? I am not so good at BGP. :-( BTW, I am using Zebra 0.88. Thanks in advance. best Haisang From baixauli@mat.upc.es Tue Dec 19 08:24:44 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:24:44 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses References: <20001218233752.063AE7E5C@starfruit.itojun.org> Message-ID: <3A3F1B4C.77CE2C05@mat.upc.es> Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > > I need an explanation about IPv4-mapped addresses... > > at least you must tell us which operating system you are using. Sorry. Red Hat 6.0 with Linux 2.2.14 and other aplications upgrades for IPv6. -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From baixauli@mat.upc.es Tue Dec 19 11:30:14 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:30:14 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses References: <3A3E0D86.68A447A@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: <3A3F46C6.245D042E@mat.upc.es> Julio Baixauli wrote: > > Hello! > > I need an explanation about IPv4-mapped addresses... > > I'm programming a client application for test purposes. Basically, I > open a socket and connect that socket to an IPv6 address. Next, I read > characters from that socket. > > There is no problems when I try to connect to global-scope addresses, > like 3ffe:XXXXXXXXXX. In this cases I can connect. > The problem comes when I try to connect to IPv4-mapped addresses. In > this cases connect returns 'no route to host' or 'network is > unreachable'. This is false!! because I add a route to IPv4-mapped > addresses, and when I ping these addresses I can see, at least, ICMP > Neighbor Solicitation, for the gateway, on the net. > > So... what's failing? > Do kernel any diferences between raw-sockets (ping) and stream-sockets > (tcp)? > Are there any implications with IPv4-mapped addresses? > I've no idea about what happens... > > Thank you very much, and I'm sorry for my horrible english. I've discovered that when I try to connect to IPv4-mapped addresses the kernel traduces these addresses to the corresponding IPv4 address, and the results are like we should working in IPv4. This seems not wrong, because IPv4-mapped addresses represents IPv4-only nodes, but what happens in SIIT environment? This algorithm says that IPv6-only nodes have to use IPv4-mapped addresses to comunicate with a SIIT translator, which should traduce the packets to IPv4. Implies this that dual nodes can't use SIIT translator to comunicate to IPv4-only nodes? Are there any form to specify the way to handle IPv6 packets with IPv4-mapped destination address for dual nodes? Anybody can see any light at the end of the tunnel? Thank you very much!! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From baixauli@mat.upc.es Tue Dec 19 11:35:39 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:35:39 +0100 Subject: IPv6-only node Message-ID: <3A3F480B.10157A92@mat.upc.es> Hello again. I've a linux dual-stack node. I would like to work with IPv6-stack ONLY (no IPv4-stack in the kernel). Is this possible?? How? Thank you very much again! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From jeff@muzi.com Tue Dec 19 22:41:58 2000 From: jeff@muzi.com (Li Hong) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 06:41:58 +0800 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses Message-ID: <20001219224158.1872.qmail@muzi.com> -----Original Message----- From: Julio Baixauli Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:13:42 +0100 To: 6bone <6bone@ISI.EDU> Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses > > Hello! > > I need an explanation about IPv4-mapped addresses... > > I'm programming a client application for test purposes. Basically, I > open a socket and connect that socket to an IPv6 address. Next, I read > characters from that socket. > > There is no problems when I try to connect to global-scope addresses, > like 3ffe:XXXXXXXXXX. In this cases I can connect. > The problem comes when I try to connect to IPv4-mapped addresses. In > this cases connect returns 'no route to host' or 'network is > unreachable'. This is false!! because I add a route to IPv4-mapped > addresses, and when I ping these addresses I can see, at least, ICMP > Neighbor Solicitation, for the gateway, on the net. > I built my IPv6 client/server using IPv4-mapped IPv6 address, address format like ::ffff:a.b.c.d These two hosts were on the same Ethernet. > So... what's failing? > Do kernel any diferences between raw-sockets (ping) and stream-sockets > (tcp)? > Are there any implications with IPv4-mapped addresses? > I've no idea about what happens... > > Thank you very much, and I'm sorry for my horrible english. > > -- > ******************************************** > > Julio Baixauli Garreta > baixauli@mat.upc.es > > ******************************************** > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.muzi.com Powered by Outblaze From =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?sei1tb/P?= Wed Dec 20 04:47:24 2000 From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?sei1tb/P?= (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?sei1tb/P?=) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:47:24 +0900 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <00ae01c06a3f$f2394fa0$40111796@sktelecom.com> Hi~ Does Netscape6 support IPv6 ? Or, Do I need some patch? Anyway, plz tell me some information about netscape6 and the site which I can get the netscape6 and its patch. Thanks. From baixauli@mat.upc.es Wed Dec 20 09:31:57 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:31:57 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses References: <20001219224158.1872.qmail@muzi.com> Message-ID: <3A407C8D.D6F8D467@mat.upc.es> Li Hong wrote: > > I built my IPv6 client/server using IPv4-mapped IPv6 address, address format like ::ffff:a.b.c.d > > These two hosts were on the same Ethernet. Are you sure the communication is made in IPv6? The kernel handles these addresses like it would be IPv4 addresses (...I think). How you can skip this default conduct? In my test program I make: socket() with PF_INET6 & SOCK_STREAM connect() to ::ffff:a.b.c.d ...and I can see, at least, ARP packets for a.b.c.d (if any route is found in the route table). This implies that the connection will be made in IPv4, isn't it? Could you send me any code that can clarify me? Thank you very much!! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From Endre.Futo@cern.ch Wed Dec 20 10:06:59 2000 From: Endre.Futo@cern.ch (Endre Futo) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:06:59 +0100 Subject: Netscape6 + IPv6 References: <00ae01c06a3f$f2394fa0$40111796@sktelecom.com> Message-ID: <3A4084C3.AF2651B7@cern.ch> Hello, On Linux just download. Netscape 6 uses Mozilla engine. http://home.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html On Win2000 SP1 the IPv6 patch of Microsoft doesn not make Netscape6 IPv6-capable, but after patching the Internet Explorer is IPv6-capable there. Regards: Endre Futo ±èµµ¿Ï wrote: > > Hi~ > > Does Netscape6 support IPv6 ? > Or, Do I need some patch? > > Anyway, plz tell me some information about netscape6 and > the site which I can get the netscape6 and its patch. > > Thanks. From burgess@mitre.org Wed Dec 20 14:27:22 2000 From: burgess@mitre.org (Burgess,David B.) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:27:22 -0600 Subject: In-Reply-To: <00ae01c06a3f$f2394fa0$40111796@sktelecom.com> Message-ID: <000401c06a90$f7467a80$2500a8c0@omaha.mitre.org> After playing with Netscape 6 for a while, I've come to the conclusions it doesn't even support IPv4. I deinstalled it - it was completely unusable. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of ±èµµ¿Ï > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:47 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: > > > Hi~ > > Does Netscape6 support IPv6 ? > Or, Do I need some patch? > > Anyway, plz tell me some information about netscape6 and > the site which I can get the > netscape6 and its patch. > > Thanks. > > From jeff@muzi.com Wed Dec 20 16:19:16 2000 From: jeff@muzi.com (Li Hong) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 00:19:16 +0800 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses Message-ID: <20001220161916.12674.qmail@muzi.com> ************************************************** client6 code: sockfd = socket(AF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, 0) bzero(&servaddr, sizeof(servaddr)); servaddr.sin6_family = AF_INET6; servaddr.sin6_port = htons(5000); inet_pton(AF_INET6, argv[1], &servaddr.sin6_addr) connect(sockfd, (SA *) &servaddr, sizeof(servaddr) server6 code: listenfd = Socket(AF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, 0); bzero(&servaddr, sizeof(servaddr)); servaddr.sin6_family = AF_INET6; servaddr.sin6_addr = ipv6addr_any; servaddr.sin6_port = htons(5000); Bind(listenfd, (SA *) &servaddr, sizeof(servaddr)); connfd = Accept(listenfd, (SA *) &cliaddr, &len); ************************************************ The inet_pton function is only valid for AF_INET and AF_INET6, you can try AF_INET6 instead of PF_INET6? I am not sure Linux box, I am using FreeBSD 4.1 as testing bed. In my testing, the following testing cases will using IPv4-mapped IPv6 address: 1) IPv4 client communicates with IPv6 server, the server will use IPv4-mapped IPv6 address. 2) IPv6 client communicates with IPv4 server, the client will use IPv4-mapped IPv6 address 3) IPv6 client communicates with IPv6 server, the client and server will both accept IPv4-mapped IPv6 address. Both 1,2 will use IPv4 datagram, 3 will use IPv6 datagram. -----Original Message----- From: itojun@iijlab.net Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:26:19 +0900 To: Julio Baixauli Subject: Re: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses > > >Li Hong wrote: > >> > >> I built my IPv6 client/server using IPv4-mapped IPv6 address, address format like ::ffff:a.b.c.d > >> These two hosts were on the same Ethernet. > > Are you sure the communication is made in IPv6? The kernel handles > >these addresses like it would be IPv4 addresses (...I think). How you > >can skip this default conduct? > > > > In my test program I make: > > > >socket() with PF_INET6 & SOCK_STREAM > >connect() to ::ffff:a.b.c.d > > > >...and I can see, at least, ARP packets for a.b.c.d (if any route is > >found in the route table). This implies that the connection will be made > >in IPv4, isn't it? > > > > Could you send me any code that can clarify me? > > if the following conditions are true: > - you have configured your (linux) node as IPv4/IPv6 dual stack node > - linux IPv6 stack supports behavior presented in RFC2553 section 3.7 > traffic toward IPv6 mapped address (on top of AF_INET6 socket) will > go out the node as IPv4 traffic. if you run tcpdump on loopback > interface while you run "telnet ::ffff:127.0.0.1", you will see IPv4 > traffic. this is expected behavior and you cannot test SIIT with the > node. > > if I understand correctly, SIIT specification is written to support > IPv6-only nodes. you need to at least remove RFC2553 section 3.7 > behavior from your test node. also, you may need to remove IPv4 stack > in your kernel. at this moment I don't think there's any stack > capable of doing the latter. > > itojun > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.muzi.com Powered by Outblaze From baixauli@mat.upc.es Thu Dec 21 11:04:26 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:04:26 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses [no need to read this] References: <20001220161916.12674.qmail@muzi.com> Message-ID: <3A41E3BA.3608A361@mat.upc.es> Li Hong wrote: > > ........... > > I am not sure Linux box, I am using FreeBSD 4.1 as testing bed. > > In my testing, the following testing cases will using IPv4-mapped IPv6 address: > > 1) IPv4 client communicates with IPv6 server, the server will use IPv4-mapped IPv6 address. > > 2) IPv6 client communicates with IPv4 server, the client will use IPv4-mapped IPv6 address > > 3) IPv6 client communicates with IPv6 server, the client and server will both accept IPv4-mapped IPv6 address. > > Both 1,2 will use IPv4 datagram, 3 will use IPv6 datagram. Thank you very much! This mail won't add any more questions to the list. I only write this mail to thank everybody that has spent their time in this questions, and to explain my experience with SIIT algorithm, if anybody are interested. Now I explain my solution, a temporaly solution until the gurus of IPng clarify the question about IPv4-mapped addresses. So, thank you very much again if you don't want to read more about this and excuse me for my poor english. .... I've been seeing draft-itojun-ipv6-transition-abuse-01.txt, and I see many problems with IPv4-mapped addresses and SIIT algorithm. This problems beyond me. There are problems deciding how the kernel handles IPv4-mapped addresses, problems with the handling of FTP (PORT/PASV && EPSV/EPRT), problems of malicious use of these addresses (DoS attacks, etc...) My original intention was test SIIT software (IPv4 to IPv6 headers translation, and viceversa). The SIIT algorithm says that IPv6 node MUST use IPv4-mapped address to comunicate to IPv4 node through SIIT translator. Due to the problems mentioned above, I've decided to make the test with other types of addresses. I've choosed addresses with the form ::ffff:ffff:0:0/96 (that looks like ::ffff:0:0/96, IPv4-mapped). This addresses has been choosed because don't cange the checksum of tcp headers (this is mentioned in SIIT with IPv4-translatable addresses too). this addresses are handled normaly for the kernel (native IPv6, one problem less). And don't have the problems of itojun-abuse (bacause the kernel don't translate them to IPv4) At this point, I can test my SIIT software. It seems that work. I can GET (http) a HTML document of IPv4 node from IPv6 node, translating the headers in a third node with the SIIT software. I only have made this test. More tests are comming. Again, thank you very much for the help you give me. Bye! -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From grn@ispras.ru Thu Dec 21 11:25:11 2000 From: grn@ispras.ru (Grigory Kljuchnikov) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:25:11 +0300 (MSK) Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses In-Reply-To: <3A407C8D.D6F8D467@mat.upc.es> Message-ID: Hello, We have a project with SIIT, and have had the problem with IPv4-mapped addresses. We use FreeBSD with KAME, and there is an implementation of using IPv4-mapped addresses in KAME as documented in RFC2553 section 3.7. Therefore we use addresses like ::ffff:ffff:a.b.c.d instead ::ffff:a.b.c.d for our SIIT implementation. Grigory. P.S. The origin message from KAME developer is: ------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:05:49 +0900 From: itojun@iijlab.net Reply-To: snap-users@kame.net To: User Dimka Cc: snap-users@kame.net Subject: (KAME-snap 3684) Re: Problem with my pseudo-iface and IPv6(FreeBSD) >> ::ffff:xxxx:xxxx is used for very specific purposes in IPv6 >> specification. you should not use it for other purposes. >But this is precise my case: I know for what this addresses is used and >I'm attempting playing with siit - so... >Tell me, please, what do KAME stack with ::ffff:xxxx:xxxx ? >Thanks anyway. as documented in INSTALL, KAME does not support SIIT environment. the address (::ffff:xxxx:xxxx) is used as documented in RFC2553 section 3.7. itojun ----------------------------------------------- On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Julio Baixauli wrote: > Are you sure the communication is made in IPv6? The kernel handles > these addresses like it would be IPv4 addresses (...I think). How you > can skip this default conduct? > > In my test program I make: > > socket() with PF_INET6 & SOCK_STREAM > connect() to ::ffff:a.b.c.d > > ...and I can see, at least, ARP packets for a.b.c.d (if any route is > found in the route table). This implies that the connection will be made > in IPv4, isn't it? > > Could you send me any code that can clarify me? > > Thank you very much!! > > -- > ******************************************** > > Julio Baixauli Garreta > baixauli@mat.upc.es > > ******************************************** > Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, Institute for System Programming Russian Academy of Sciences From baixauli@mat.upc.es Thu Dec 21 11:54:45 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:54:45 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses References: Message-ID: <3A41EF85.BD9EC674@mat.upc.es> Grigory Kljuchnikov wrote: > > Hello, > > We have a project with SIIT, and have had the problem with IPv4-mapped > addresses. We use FreeBSD with KAME, and there is an implementation > of using IPv4-mapped addresses in KAME as documented in RFC2553 > section 3.7. Therefore we use addresses like ::ffff:ffff:a.b.c.d > instead ::ffff:a.b.c.d for our SIIT implementation. > > Grigory. Is not a coincidence that I choose the same kind of address?? I think that Murphy should be seeing us, and he should be laugh From baixauli@mat.upc.es Thu Dec 21 15:46:28 2000 From: baixauli@mat.upc.es (Julio Baixauli) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:46:28 +0100 Subject: IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses References: <10285.977315179@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <3A4225D4.1F53D67@mat.upc.es> itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > if the following conditions are true: > - you have configured your (linux) node as IPv4/IPv6 dual stack node > - linux IPv6 stack supports behavior presented in RFC2553 section 3.7 > traffic toward IPv6 mapped address (on top of AF_INET6 socket) will > go out the node as IPv4 traffic. if you run tcpdump on loopback > interface while you run "telnet ::ffff:127.0.0.1", you will see IPv4 > traffic. this is expected behavior and you cannot test SIIT with the > node. > > if I understand correctly, SIIT specification is written to support > IPv6-only nodes. you need to at least remove RFC2553 section 3.7 > behavior from your test node. also, you may need to remove IPv4 stack > in your kernel. at this moment I don't think there's any stack > capable of doing the latter. > > itojun In addition, SIIT talks about IPv6/IPv4 dual nodes that have IPv4 stack but which aren't configured with any IPv4 address, too. -- ******************************************** Julio Baixauli Garreta baixauli@mat.upc.es ******************************************** From jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe Thu Dec 21 16:10:43 2000 From: jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe (Jose Munoz) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:10:43 -0500 Subject: Tunelling =?iso-8859-1?Q?autom=E1tico?= hacia FreeNet6. Automatic tunneling to Freenet6 Message-ID: <3A422B83.CA701BDC@inictel.gob.pe> Hola a todos los miembros de la lista 6bone@inf.uach.cl: El objetivo de este mensaje es un poco contar lo que he realizado aqui en INICTEL, como los primeros pasos experimentando con IPv6 que como verán son cosas muy simples. En primer lugar estamos trabajando con Linux kernel 2.2.18, que prueba ser mucho más estable que las anteriores, pues ya habia tenido algunos problemas con 2.2.16 y 2.2.17. Se Compiló el kernel con las opciones respectivas de IPv6, además de otras relacionadas con QoS. Luego se verificó la nueva dirección IPv6 en mi interfaz de red con "ifconfig" - utilitario para configurar las interfaces de red residentes en el kernel (en cierta forma similar a "Configuración de red" , "ipconfig", "winipcfg" de Windows). Esta dirección es la generada automáticamente y válida sólo en el enlace local y en mi caso particular, una de las máquinas tiene como dirección: fe80::250:daff:fe8e:72d0/10 Igualmente la interfaz de red posee su propia dirección IPv4, es decir está trabajando en el modo de dual stack. A continuación se estableció un tunel hacia alguna red IPv6 global, para ello por cuestiones de facilidad se empleo los servicios de Freenet6 en Canadá. Esto consiste básicamente en enviar via WEB una solicitud tras lo cual se recibe un script en perl. Si tenemos instalado ese soporte se puede ejecutar directamente, sino es muy simple de hacerlo tambien manualmente con "ifconfig" y "route" (este último permite crear tablas de enrutamiento estáticas). Los parámetros para la máquina anteriormente mencionada fueron: Extremo del tunel en la estación localizada en INICTEL: Dirección IPv4 : 200.37.131.44 Dirección IPv6 global : 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:29f Dirección IPv6 local : fe80::250:daff:fe8e:72d0 Ectremo del tunel en Freenet6: Dirección IPv4 : 206.123.31.102 Dirección IPv6 global : 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:29e El script tenía los siguientes comandos: ifconfig sit0 up ifconfig eth0 add 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:29f ifconfig sit0 tunnel ::206.123.31.102 ifconfig sit1 up route -A inet6 add ::0/ gw fe80::206.123.31.102 dev sit1 Bien, los ejecuté, probé haciendo ping6 hacia algunos sitios IPv6 y funcionó correctamente. Lo próximo que haré para confirmar la operación del mismo será instalar otro tunel en otra máquina y nuevamente hacer un ping6 entre ambas. Eso es todo por el momento, no se si sea de utilidad para alguien, pero se los envió con la mejor buena voluntad. Saludos José Luis Muñoz INICTEL Hello everybody (6bone@isi.edu list members): The main purpose of this message is to share with all of you the initial trials that we are making at INICTEL working with IPv6, certainly quite simple steps. First, we are working with Linux 2.2.18, a very stable version (i am waiting impatiently for 2.4!), in the past I had some problems with 2.2.16 an 2.217 The kernel was compiled with the respective IPv6 options as well as with QoS support and worked fine. It was checked out the new automatic IPv6 address with ifconfig, having the following value: fe80::250:daff:fe8e:72d0, also the IPv4 address was attached to the eth0 device. The next step was to set up a tunnel using the services of Freenet6, I fill up a small registration form and they sent me back a script in Perl, if you have installed Perl ok!, but if not is very simple to type mannually the respective shell commands. this script is indicated above (in the spanish part of this message) and again, it worked perfectly. Finally I am thinking to set up a new tunnel in another linux box and make a ping6 between them. Well, sorry for this long message and my bad english skill . I hope it would be useful for someone. Regards Jose Munoz From jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe Thu Dec 21 18:06:55 2000 From: jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe (Jose Munoz) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:06:55 -0500 Subject: Tunelling =?iso-8859-1?Q?autom=E1tico?= hacia FreeNet6. Automatic tunneling to Freenet6 References: <3A422B83.CA701BDC@inictel.gob.pe> <001c01c06b7f$df1fb670$83d85392@inf.uach.cl> Message-ID: <3A4246BF.E86D3F21@inictel.gob.pe> clazo escribió: > eureka... > yo tambien hice lo mismo mi ip es 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff::5dd > este es un linux 7.0 y tiene instalado un ftp ademas mi > nombre es ipv6.cl.freenet.net > > pruebalo y me dices si contesta.. e > > Christian. Hola Christian: Hice la prueba y funciona correctamente, acabo de establecer otro tunel en la otra maquina que tengo disponible y tambien responde a los ping6. Me parece que habria que hacer algo más interesante, por ejemplo establecer un router con soporte ipv6 y seguir probando. Saludos José Luis Muñoz (English version for 6bone@isi.edu) Hi Christian I made the test and worked perfectly, I just finished to set up a new tunnel in other machine and also replied my pings. I guess we can try more interesting things, e.g. implement an ipv6 capable router ... P.D. Como hago para acceder a una pagina IPv6 en el web?. Intente hacerlo a www.kame.net y no pude ver la tortuga moviendose (cosa que solo se vería si mi browser esta preparado para IPv6) From jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe Thu Dec 21 21:08:20 2000 From: jmunoz@inictel.gob.pe (Jose Munoz) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:08:20 -0500 Subject: Mozilla 0.6. IPv6 capable browser and.... Merry Xmas! Message-ID: <3A427144.32D51F2F@inictel.gob.pe> Hola otra vez: Como descubrí que la version de Netscape 4.6 para Linux no soporta IPv6, gracias a la información de Horacio, baje la versión 0.6 de Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org). La instalación es muy sencilla y efectivamente, soporta IPv6, pues accese a la página www.kame.net y al fin pude ver la tortuga moviendose. Probe ejecutar este mismo browser en otra máquina con IPv4 (solo para estar seguro) y no fue capaz de ver las páginas del servidor www.kame.net con código IPv6, cabe señalar que este navegador es aparentemente más lento que el Netscape 4.6 que tenía pero tiene una interface bastante atractiva y sinceramente me agradó. Seguimos comunicandonos y si no tengo la oportunidad luego, pues mañana con las celebraciones en el trabajo me puedo olvidar..... Feliz Navidad para todos!!!! José Muñoz (english version) Hi again: I tried with Mozilla 0.6 as a IPv6 capable browser and certainly it worked fine. It seems slower than my older Netscape 4.6 but the look is good and i really like it. That is all for now and, if I don't have a chance later to tell you....... Merry Christmas and Happiness for all !!!! From mithrandir@skynet.be Fri Dec 22 11:06:47 2000 From: mithrandir@skynet.be (Mithrandir) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:06:47 +0100 Subject: cisco router Message-ID: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Hello there guys, the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to mithrandir@skynet.be. I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to get my tunnel up and running. Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! From davidg@uk.uu.net Fri Dec 22 13:53:37 2000 From: davidg@uk.uu.net (David Gethings) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:53:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: cisco router In-Reply-To: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Mithrandir wrote: > Hello there guys, > > the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to > mithrandir@skynet.be. > > I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. > Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to > get my tunnel up and running. > Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. > A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. > Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. > (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! > and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! > > Here's a templete that I use for creating tunnels on Cisco's: interface TunnelN description IPv6 Tunnel to COMPANY (Name ) no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 address ipv6:address::1/64 tunnel source Loopback0 tunnel destination ipv4.address tunnel mode ipv6ip tunnel checksum That seems to work everytime. ;) Merry Christmas. -- David Gethings UUNET, a Worldcom Company, Network Activation Engineer Internet House, 332 Science Park, Email: davidg@uk.uu.net Cambridge, CB4 0BZ, United Kingdom. Phone: +44 (0)1223 581515 http://www.uk.uu.net/ From nealr@pensat.com Fri Dec 22 09:37:56 2000 From: nealr@pensat.com (neal rauhauser) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:37:56 +0000 Subject: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config References: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Message-ID: <3A4320F4.4D91D427@pensat.com> Here is a snippet of config from a cisco 7206 we use as our border router. Comments are inline with features. The biggest bump in the road for people who know cisco IPv4 routing is the way IPv6 RIP is set up - you must enable it globally and then set each interface you wish to participate. This is *very* similar to the way DVMRP (multicast routing) is handled - looks like the just pulled the code from there and made it work for IPv6. In terms of address I'd suggest you use a /64 for each LAN interface and a /127 for each WAN interface. You're not seeing things - a /127 is correct. IPv6 uses multicasts for ARP and doesn't need the network and broadcast addresses that you're used to in IPv4. I am stuck here and bored :-( If you need help drop me a line ... ! these are global commands to enable IPv6 routing - pensat is my employer's name ! if I recall correctly you can have something like four different rip instances with different text names ipv6 unicast-routing ipv6 rip pensat redistribute static ! this is my tunnel to viagenie where I get 3ffe:b00:4007/48 interface Tunnel0 description tunnel to viagenie no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:C18::33/127 tunnel source 209.58.21.248 tunnel destination 206.123.31.101 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! here is a tunnel from my border 7206 to a router I have at home on my cable modem interface Tunnel4 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007::1/127 ! this is how you enable rip on an interfacae ipv6 rip pensat enable tunnel source 209.58.21.248 tunnel destination 24.3.233.101 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! the border 7206 has nothing but a fast ethernet port attached to a 3com hub ! the config is very similar to a tunnel address interface FastEthernet0/0 description Connection to core1.mclean-va.pensat.net ip address 209.58.21.98 255.255.255.224 no ip directed-broadcast ip ospf interface-retry 0 half-duplex ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007:3::98/64 ipv6 rip pensat enable Mithrandir wrote: > Hello there guys, > > the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to > mithrandir@skynet.be. > > I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. > Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to > get my tunnel up and running. > Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. > A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. > Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. > (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! > and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! From jason@jax-inc.com Fri Dec 22 15:55:49 2000 From: jason@jax-inc.com (Jason Bogin) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:55:49 -0500 Subject: cisco router Message-ID: <71760B58DB78D111BF3D00C0F01783591AF111@WEB_SERVER> I have a tutorial example at http://www.jax-inc.com/ipv6 - select Cisco 2500 series (text) link. Thanks, Jason Bogin -----Original Message----- From: Mithrandir To: 6bone Sent: 12/22/00 6:06 AM Subject: cisco router Hello there guys, the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to mithrandir@skynet.be. I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to get my tunnel up and running. Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Fri Dec 22 16:34:48 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:34:48 -0500 Subject: cisco router In-Reply-To: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20001222113230.03f11f20@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> At/À 12:06 2000-12-22 +0100, Mithrandir you wrote/vous écriviez: >Hello there guys, > >the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to >mithrandir@skynet.be. > >I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. yeap. worked for many years now for us. We also bring a cisco 2500 router at the IETFs since a few years to enable iPv6 in the ietf network. But, if you want to run the latest images, these images are getting bigger, so you will probably endup having to buy more memory (both types). For ourselves, we decided to use 2600 with upgraded memory instead of buying more memory in the 2500, and give up for 2500 with ipv6, since we needed the added features of the latest images. your choice! Marc. >Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to >get my tunnel up and running. >Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. >A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. >Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. >(just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! >and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From pim@wise-guys.nl Fri Dec 22 18:12:54 2000 From: pim@wise-guys.nl (Pim van Pelt) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:12:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: cisco router In-Reply-To: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> from Mithrandir at "Dec 22, 2000 12:06:47 pm" Message-ID: <200012221812.TAA18284@godfather.wise-guys.nl> Johan, Below is (a large part of) my Cisco IOS 12.0 configuration set for a Cisco 3640 in Amsterdam. > I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. > Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to > get my tunnel up and running. It configures an interface of type Tunnel. It configures an interface of type FastEthernet. It configures a dot1q (vlan compatible with NON-Cisco) subinterface It sets up a BGP router subsystem under AS8954. It peers full transit with some native IPv6 people at AMS-IX (hi folks :) It then has (this is very important) some prefix-list to make sure the router does not relay bogus routes (larger than prefixlen 35). It then breaks this rule horribly by allowing to propagate several /48s that were delegated to me (seq 1,2,3) It routes statically some /64 over Tunnel1 we created. It does other misc stuff which you might or might not be interested in. Kind regards, Good luck. Pim van Pelt / Intouch version 12.0 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime ! hostname router-nikhef ! ! ipv6 unicast-routing ! interface Tunnel1 description WiseGuys Tilburg no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:8110:1000::2/127 tunnel source FastEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 192.87.170.242 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! interface FastEthernet0/0 description Fiber-Intouch IPv4 IPv6 ip address 212.19.192.218 255.255.255.224 no ip redirects no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache full-duplex ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:3001:6::1/64 ipv6 address 2001:658:205::1/64 ipv6 address 3FFE:8110::1/64 ! interface FastEthernet0/0.501 description Native IPv6 to WideXS encapsulation dot1Q 501 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ipv6 enable ipv6 address 2001:658:200::1/64 ! interface FastEthernet1/0 description UTP-Sara IPv6 no ip address no ip redirects no ip directed-broadcast speed 10 full-duplex ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:3000::A500:8954:1/64 no cdp enable ! router bgp 8954 no synchronization no bgp default ipv4-unicast neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT peer-group neighbor PEERING-ONLY peer-group [snip] neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1103:1 remote-as 1103 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1103:1 description SURFnet neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1200:1 remote-as 1200 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1200:1 description ams/ix neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1890:1 remote-as 1890 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1890:1 description UUNet neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:3333:1 remote-as 3333 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:3333:1 description RIPE neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:5623:1 remote-as 5623 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:5623:1 description AT&T neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:8251:1 remote-as 8251 neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:8251:1 description Cistron ! address-family ipv6 neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT activate neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT next-hop-self neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT soft-reconfiguration inbound neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT prefix-list 6bone-out out neighbor AMS-IX-TRANSIT route-map 6bone-out out neighbor PEERING-ONLY activate neighbor PEERING-ONLY next-hop-self neighbor PEERING-ONLY soft-reconfiguration inbound neighbor PEERING-ONLY filter-list 2 out neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1103:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1200:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:1890:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:3333:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:5623:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT neighbor 3FFE:3000::A500:8251:1 peer-group AMS-IX-TRANSIT network 2001:658:200::/48 network 2001:658:205::/48 network 3FFE:3001:6::/48 network 3FFE:8110::/28 exit-address-family ! ip default-gateway 212.19.192.217 ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 212.19.192.217 no ip http server ip http access-class 1 ip as-path access-list 2 permit ^$ ! ! ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 1 permit 3FFE:3001:6::/48 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 2 permit 2001:658:205::/48 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 3 permit 2001:658:200::/48 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 5 permit 3FFE::/17 le 24 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 10 permit 3FFE:8000::/17 le 28 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 15 permit 2001::/16 le 35 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 17 deny 2002::/16 ge 17 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 18 permit 2002::/16 le 17 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 20 deny ::/0 ip prefix-list 6bone-out seq 25 deny ::/0 le 128 ! ipv6 auto-tunnel ipv6 route 3FFE:3001:6:1001::/64 Tunnel1 ipv6 route 3FFE:3001:6::/48 Null0 ipv6 route 3FFE:8110::/28 Null0 ! ipv6 access-list 6bone-in permit 3FFE::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-in permit 2001::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-in permit 2002::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-in permit 2010::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-in deny any ! ipv6 access-list telnet permit 3FFE:3001:6::/64 * ipv6 access-list telnet permit 3FFE:3001:205::/64 * ipv6 access-list telnet deny any ! ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 3FFE:3001:6::/48 ipv6 access-list 6bone-out deny 3FFE:3001:6::/48 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 2001:658:200::/48 ipv6 access-list 6bone-out deny 2001:658:200::/48 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 2001:658:205::/48 ipv6 access-list 6bone-out deny 2001:658:205::/48 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 3FFE::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 2001::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 2002::/16 * ipv6 access-list 6bone-out permit 2010::/16 * route-map 6bone-in permit 10 match ipv6 address 6bone-in ! route-map 6bone-out permit 10 match ipv6 address 6bone-out ! banner motd  Welcome to the Intouch IPv6 router at the AMS-IX.  ! ntp clock-period 17179673 ntp server 194.109.86.132 end -- ---------- - - - - -+- - - - - ---------- Pim van Pelt Email: pvanpelt@wise-guys.nl http://www.wise-guys.nl/ GSM: +31629064049 ----------------------------------------------- From fink@es.net Fri Dec 22 20:11:46 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:11:46 -0800 Subject: 6bone pTLA request for NOKIA - closes 5 Jan 2001 Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001222120801.04b32de8@imap2.es.net> NOKIA has requested a pTLA and it seems reasonable to me. This note opens the 2-week review, which will close 5 Jan 2001. Please send comments to me or the list. Thanks, Bob ====================================== >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:37:34 -0800 >From: David Kessens >To: Bob Fink >Subject: Re: 6bone database > >Bob, > >I just completed my request for a pTLA. > >Does it look OK ?!? >If so, could you open the two week wait period ?!? > >Thanks, > >David K. >--- > >1. The pTLA Applicant must have a minimum of three (3) months > qualifying experience as a 6Bone end-site or pNLA transit. > > Nokia has several 6bone end-sites that are operational for longer > than three months: > > NOKIA (19990419) > NOKIA-CHINA (19991130) > > Nokia has fully up to date and maintained registry entries. Nokia has two > fully operational nameservers (ns1.nokia.net and ns2.nokia.net). Forward > as well reverse DNS is working (try for example bgp6.nokia.net) > > A webserver is being built with some information regarding the > Nokia ipv6 backbone and is accessible at http://ipv6.nokia.net/. > Work is progressing on making this website fully ipv6 accessible. > >2. The pTLA Applicant MUST have the ability and intent to provide > "production-quality" 6Bone backbone service. Applicants must > provide a statement and information in support of this claim. > > Nokia is running ipv6 networks in several internal and external > locations. Nokia is planning to create a Nokia wide backbone. People who > wish to peer with Nokia can contact . People can > contact for technical problems. Nokia maintains a > minimum of 2 members of technical staff, but in fact has many more people > working on the ipv6 network in the different countries where Nokia is > active. > > One can visit http://www.nokia.com/ipv6/ for Nokia's vision on > ipv6. > >3. The pTLA Applicant MUST have a potential "user community" that > would be served by its becoming a pTLA, e.g., the Applicant is a > major provider of Internet service in a region, country, or focus > of interest. Applicant must provide a statement and information in > support this claim. > > Nokias user community is the company itself, it's many business > units and customers/suppliers of services for the mobile phone > industry. > >4. The pTLA Applicant MUST commit to abide by the current 6Bone > operational rules and policies as they exist at time of its > application, and agree to abide by future 6Bone backbone > operational rules and policies as they evolve by consensus of the > 6Bone backbone and user community. > > Nokia agrees with the current 6bone operational rules and commits > to abide by these rules. From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Sat Dec 23 14:15:35 2000 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:15:35 -0300 Subject: ipv6 https web server? Message-ID: <20001223111535.A30760@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> Hola! Does somebody have an https web server in the 6bone that i can use to test my lynx compiled with ipv6+ssl ? Thanks HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar Tue Dec 26 16:35:37 2000 From: horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar (horape@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:35:37 -0300 Subject: ipv6 https web server? In-Reply-To: <20001226004847.A20678@serv9.ischool.washington.edu>; from peter@abrahamsen.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:48:47AM -0800 References: <20001223111535.A30760@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> <20001226004847.A20678@serv9.ischool.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20001226133536.A7429@tinuviel.compendium.net.ar> ¡Hola! > > Does somebody have an https web server in the 6bone that i can use > > to test my lynx compiled with ipv6+ssl ? > Look at http://www.kame.net/. If the kame is dancing, you're using IPv6. I'm looking after a HTTPS server, not a HTTP one. Thanks, HoraPe --- Horacio J. Peña horape@compendium.com.ar horape@uninet.edu bofh@puntoar.net.ar horape@hcdn.gov.ar From woeber@cc.univie.ac.at Tue Dec 26 17:57:20 2000 From: woeber@cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 18:57:20 +0100 Subject: cisco router Message-ID: <009F52F6.238F1B9E.3@cc.univie.ac.at> =>I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. Yes, we do :-) >But, if you want to run the latest images, these images are getting bigger, >so you will probably endup having to buy more memory (both types). That is true, but we found some memory sitting on a shelf for an upgrade... Actually, the most recent version is even smaller again (than the previous one). One way around (flash) memeory limitatiosn can be to boot tftp from another box which has got enough flash - we do it from our V6 4500. The 4500 is doing ATM PVCs, Ethernet and Serial (AS 1122) The 2500 is doing Ethernet and Serial (AS1121) FYI, the config for those 2 boxes can be found at http://noc.aco.net/ipv6/extern/ipv6vie.cfg.html (4500) http://noc.aco.net/ipv6/extern/ipv6vie2.cfg.html (2500) Cheers, Wilfried _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ckennedy@groovy.org Wed Dec 27 00:05:29 2000 From: ckennedy@groovy.org (Chris Kennedy) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 18:05:29 -0600 Subject: cisco router In-Reply-To: <009F52F6.238F1B9E.3@cc.univie.ac.at>; from woeber@cc.univie.ac.at on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 06:57:20PM +0100 References: <009F52F6.238F1B9E.3@cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <20001226180529.C514@GROOVY.ORG> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 06:57:20PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote: > > Actually, the most recent version is even smaller again (than the > previous one). > So there is a new cisco image of IOS 12.1 since Nov 1, I just loaded it onto our router. It looks very cool, the reverse lookups on IPv6 are fixed and in general seems very stable so far, and it is amazing that the size hardly grew since the 12.0 one. Chris K -- Chris Kennedy / ckennedy@groovy.org I-Land Internet Services / Network Operations Center \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ .. \`@" Santa is MINE!!! The bear traps worked;) /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ -Linux SPARC Kernel Oops From fink@es.net Wed Dec 27 20:43:12 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:43:12 -0800 Subject: 6bone stats and tools webpage links cleanup Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001227124016.02cc2ef8@imap2.es.net> 6bone folk, I have checked and removed the unresponsive/obsolete links on the 6bone stats and tools pages per Itojun's kind email below (thanks Itojun). I'm always happy and willing to add working links to these (and other) pages if you send them to me. Thanks, Bob === >To: Fink@es.net, Alain.Durand@eng.sun.com >Cc: 6bone@isi.edu >Subject: 6bone webpage updates. >From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:29:11 +0900 > > there seem to be some obsolete links on 6bone webpage. > i tried to sweep some of those. > >itojun > > >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_stats.html > BME-FSZ/HU (both): page does not exist, or reachability issue > CSR4/IT: page does not exist > DIGITAL/AU: obsolete (last update sep1997!) ... > NIST/US: page does not exist > POLITO/IT: page not available. http://www.ipv6.polito.it/ has some > item in italian. > STACKEN/SE: perl script died with error - not sure what happened > TICL/UK: unreachable ... >http://www.6bone.net/6bone_tools.html > GALAKTIK traceroute: no longer available > BME-FSZ/HU: unavailable > G6/FR: unavailable ... From paul@timmins.net Thu Dec 28 04:23:29 2000 From: paul@timmins.net (Paul Timmins) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:23:29 -0500 Subject: Sprint Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001227231838.00a93a78@timmins.net> Anyone know what is up with Sprint? (3ffe:2900::/24?) I can't seem to get any reply from them (AS6175) It looks like the main router is out or something. -Paul By Popular request I have moved my signature to: http://198.87.147.223/paulsig.txt Paul Timmins paul@timmins.net http://www.timmins.net/ ICQ#: 15422024 - Home 21888714 - Work Laptop "By definition, if you don't stand up for anything you stand for nothing" ---Paul Timmins From hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn Fri Dec 29 00:27:08 2000 From: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn (Haisang Wu) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:27:08 -0800 Subject: =?us-ascii?B?Pz8sPzogU3ByaW50?= In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20001227231838.00a93a78@timmins.net> Message-ID: Yeah, I have kept receving bizarre routing records from 3ffe:2900::/24 these weeks. Who can explain this? best haisang ______________________________________________ Haisang Wu CERNET IPv6 Testbed Operation Team Central Mainbuilding Room 307 Tsinghua University Beijing P.R.China Zipcode: 100084 Phone: 62785814-525(O) BP: 191-1134725 email: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn ______________________________________________ -----????----- ???: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]?? Paul Timmins ????: 2000?12?27? 20:23 ???: 6bone@ISI.EDU ??: Sprint Anyone know what is up with Sprint? (3ffe:2900::/24?) I can't seem to get any reply from them (AS6175) It looks like the main router is out or something. -Paul By Popular request I have moved my signature to: http://198.87.147.223/paulsig.txt Paul Timmins paul@timmins.net http://www.timmins.net/ ICQ#: 15422024 - Home 21888714 - Work Laptop "By definition, if you don't stand up for anything you stand for nothing" ---Paul Timmins From jason@jax-inc.com Thu Dec 28 14:01:00 2000 From: jason@jax-inc.com (Jason Bogin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:01:00 -0500 Subject: Sprint Message-ID: <71760B58DB78D111BF3D00C0F01783591AF116@WEB_SERVER> Hi Paul, I work with Rob Rockell is on vacation. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Paul Timmins To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Sent: 12/27/00 11:23 PM Subject: Sprint Anyone know what is up with Sprint? (3ffe:2900::/24?) I can't seem to get any reply from them (AS6175) It looks like the main router is out or something. -Paul By Popular request I have moved my signature to: http://198.87.147.223/paulsig.txt Paul Timmins paul@timmins.net http://www.timmins.net/ ICQ#: 15422024 - Home 21888714 - Work Laptop "By definition, if you don't stand up for anything you stand for nothing" ---Paul Timmins From mithrandir@skynet.be Thu Dec 28 14:55:08 2000 From: mithrandir@skynet.be (Mithrandir) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:55:08 +0100 Subject: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config References: <00e501c06c07$5d198ba0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> <3A4320F4.4D91D427@pensat.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c070df$b5d18900$0401a8c0@mithrandir> If you're bored anyway, Let's see, Since I'm a dope in cisco routers explain me how to advertise one IPv6 network to the other. I still don't understand how one router knows the other or how I can let them communicate. In other words i'm missing something. The setup is very easy. IPv6host-6/4router-tunnel-6/4router-IPv6host. But, there are 4 different ways to tunnel. When I get the above configuration to work it is only a matter of ...euhm, wel anyway I'll try. Oh is there somebody that can share the 12.1 IOS for Cisco 2500 series routers? I can't get them from the cisco site since we got the routers from another company that did not needed them anymore. We are still figuring out where you got the IPv6 addresses in the Tunnel? In other words : Why? and where did you get them? eg.:interface tunnel0 description tunnel to viagenie no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 adress 3ffe:b00:c18::33/127 ??? "3ffe" always seem to be the same, but where do the other bits come from? Do you invent them? or are they given to you by an organization? Anyway I just hope it is a simple explenation. Thanks Guys, Groeten van Mithrandir. ----- Original Message ----- From: "neal rauhauser" To: "Mithrandir" Cc: "6bone" <6bone@ISI.EDU> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config > > Here is a snippet of config from a cisco 7206 we use as our border router. > Comments are inline with features. The biggest bump in the road for people > who know cisco IPv4 routing is the way IPv6 RIP is set up - you must enable > it globally and then set each interface you wish to participate. This is > *very* similar to the way DVMRP (multicast routing) is handled - looks like > the just pulled the code from there and made it work for IPv6. > > In terms of address I'd suggest you use a /64 for each LAN interface and a > /127 for each WAN interface. You're not seeing things - a /127 is correct. > IPv6 uses multicasts for ARP and doesn't need the network and broadcast > addresses that you're used to in IPv4. > > I am stuck here and bored :-( If you need help drop me a line ... > > ! these are global commands to enable IPv6 routing - pensat is my employer's > name > ! if I recall correctly you can have something like four different rip > instances with different text names > ipv6 unicast-routing > ipv6 rip pensat redistribute static > > ! this is my tunnel to viagenie where I get 3ffe:b00:4007/48 > interface Tunnel0 > description tunnel to viagenie > no ip address > no ip directed-broadcast > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:C18::33/127 > tunnel source 209.58.21.248 > tunnel destination 206.123.31.101 > tunnel mode ipv6ip > > ! here is a tunnel from my border 7206 to a router I have at home on my cable > modem > interface Tunnel4 > no ip address > no ip directed-broadcast > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007::1/127 > ! this is how you enable rip on an interfacae > ipv6 rip pensat enable > tunnel source 209.58.21.248 > tunnel destination 24.3.233.101 > tunnel mode ipv6ip > > ! the border 7206 has nothing but a fast ethernet port attached to a 3com hub > > ! the config is very similar to a tunnel address > interface FastEthernet0/0 > description Connection to core1.mclean-va.pensat.net > ip address 209.58.21.98 255.255.255.224 > no ip directed-broadcast > ip ospf interface-retry 0 > half-duplex > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007:3::98/64 > ipv6 rip pensat enable > > > > Mithrandir wrote: > > > Hello there guys, > > > > the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to > > mithrandir@skynet.be. > > > > I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. > > Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem to > > get my tunnel up and running. > > Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. > > A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. > > Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. > > (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! > > and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! > > From mithrandir@skynet.be Thu Dec 28 15:08:23 2000 From: mithrandir@skynet.be (Mithrandir) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:08:23 +0100 Subject: Fw: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config Message-ID: <00b901c070e0$170d32a0$0401a8c0@mithrandir> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mithrandir" To: Cc: <6bone@isi.edu> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config > If you're bored anyway, > > Let's see, > Since I'm a dope in cisco routers explain me how to advertise one IPv6 > network to the other. > I still don't understand how one router knows the other or how I can let > them communicate. > In other words i'm missing something. > > The setup is very easy. > IPv6host-6/4router-tunnel-6/4router-IPv6host. > But, there are 4 different ways to tunnel. > When I get the above configuration to work it is only a matter of ...euhm, > wel anyway I'll try. > > Oh is there somebody that can share the 12.1 IOS for Cisco 2500 series > routers? > I can't get them from the cisco site since we got the routers from another > company that did not needed them anymore. > > We are still figuring out where you got the IPv6 addresses in the Tunnel? > In other words : Why? and where did you get them? > > eg.:interface tunnel0 > description tunnel to viagenie > no ip address > no ip directed-broadcast > ipv6 adress 3ffe:b00:c18::33/127 ??? > "3ffe" always seem to be the same, but where do the other bits come from? > Do you invent them? or are they given to you by an organization? > Anyway I just hope it is a simple explenation. > > Thanks Guys, > Groeten van Mithrandir. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "neal rauhauser" > To: "Mithrandir" > Cc: "6bone" <6bone@ISI.EDU> > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:37 AM > Subject: Cisco router IPv6 snippets /w RIP config > > > > > > Here is a snippet of config from a cisco 7206 we use as our border > router. > > Comments are inline with features. The biggest bump in the road for people > > who know cisco IPv4 routing is the way IPv6 RIP is set up - you must > enable > > it globally and then set each interface you wish to participate. This is > > *very* similar to the way DVMRP (multicast routing) is handled - looks > like > > the just pulled the code from there and made it work for IPv6. > > > > In terms of address I'd suggest you use a /64 for each LAN interface > and a > > /127 for each WAN interface. You're not seeing things - a /127 is correct. > > IPv6 uses multicasts for ARP and doesn't need the network and broadcast > > addresses that you're used to in IPv4. > > > > I am stuck here and bored :-( If you need help drop me a line ... > > > > ! these are global commands to enable IPv6 routing - pensat is my > employer's > > name > > ! if I recall correctly you can have something like four different rip > > instances with different text names > > ipv6 unicast-routing > > ipv6 rip pensat redistribute static > > > > ! this is my tunnel to viagenie where I get 3ffe:b00:4007/48 > > interface Tunnel0 > > description tunnel to viagenie > > no ip address > > no ip directed-broadcast > > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:C18::33/127 > > tunnel source 209.58.21.248 > > tunnel destination 206.123.31.101 > > tunnel mode ipv6ip > > > > ! here is a tunnel from my border 7206 to a router I have at home on my > cable > > modem > > interface Tunnel4 > > no ip address > > no ip directed-broadcast > > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007::1/127 > > ! this is how you enable rip on an interfacae > > ipv6 rip pensat enable > > tunnel source 209.58.21.248 > > tunnel destination 24.3.233.101 > > tunnel mode ipv6ip > > > > ! the border 7206 has nothing but a fast ethernet port attached to a 3com > hub > > > > ! the config is very similar to a tunnel address > > interface FastEthernet0/0 > > description Connection to core1.mclean-va.pensat.net > > ip address 209.58.21.98 255.255.255.224 > > no ip directed-broadcast > > ip ospf interface-retry 0 > > half-duplex > > ipv6 address 3FFE:B00:4007:3::98/64 > > ipv6 rip pensat enable > > > > > > > > Mithrandir wrote: > > > > > Hello there guys, > > > > > > the Verelst Johan (tcp6@mail.be) account has changed to > > > mithrandir@skynet.be. > > > > > > I read there are several people working with Cisco 2500 series routers. > > > Can any of you give me a sample of a "show running config" I can't seem > to > > > get my tunnel up and running. > > > Don't worry I have an IPv6 compatible IOS. > > > A "show IP interfaces" would also be very helpfull. > > > Thx for all your hard work i'm trying to steel. > > > (just kidding) and MERRY CHRISTMAS you all!! > > > and maybe A HAPPY NEW YEAR!! > > > > > From mithrandir@skynet.be Fri Dec 29 13:47:16 2000 From: mithrandir@skynet.be (Mithrandir) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:47:16 +0100 Subject: Tunnel in cisco router. Message-ID: <002301c0719f$9afa2f40$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Okay this is one out of a lot of try outs. Don't shoot me I just use this in a Closed LAN environment. It does not work. (Pinging that is) Router#show config Using 826 out of 32762 bytes ! version 11.3 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ! ! ipv6 unicast-routing ! ! ! interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 ip mtu 1480 ipv6 enable ipv6 unnumbered Ethernet0 tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 128.127.1.1 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 192.168.1.94 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:2501:200:3::1/64 ! interface Serial0 ip address 128.127.1.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast clockrate 64000 ! ip classless ! ipv6 route 3FFE::0/16 Tunnel0 ! line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end Router#show ip int brief Interface IP-Address OK? Method Status Protocol Ethernet0 192.168.1.94 YES manual up up Serial0 128.127.1.2 YES NVRAM up up Tunnel0 192.168.1.94 YES unset up up Router# Router#show ipv6 int Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up IPv6 is enabled, link-local address is FE80::2E0:B0FF:FE55:C64F Global unicast address(es): 3FFE:2501:200:3::1, subnet is 3FFE:2501:200:3::0/64 Joined group address(es): FF02::1 FF02::2 FF02::1:FF55:C64F FF02::1:FF00:1 MTU is 1500 bytes ICMP error messages limited to one every 500 milliseconds ND advertised reachable time is 0 milliseconds ND advertised retransmit interval is 0 milliseconds ND router advertisements are sent every 200 seconds ND router advertisements live for 1800 seconds Hosts use stateless autoconfig for addresses. Tunnel0 is up, line protocol is up IPv6 is enabled, link-local address is FE80::E0:B055:C64F:8 Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Ethernet0 Address is 3FFE:2501:200:3::1 Joined group address(es): FF02::1 FF02::2 FF02::1:FF4F:8 MTU is 1480 bytes ICMP error messages limited to one every 500 milliseconds ND advertised reachable time is 0 milliseconds ND advertised retransmit interval is 0 milliseconds ND router advertisements are sent every 200 seconds ND router advertisements live for 1800 seconds Hosts use stateless autoconfig for addresses. Router# bugs#show config Using 865 out of 32762 bytes ! version 11.3 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname bugs ! enable secret . enable password ! ipv6 unicast-routing ! ! ! interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 ip mtu 1480 no ip mroute-cache ipv6 enable ipv6 unnumbered Ethernet0 tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 128.127.1.2 tunnel mode ipv6ip ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 192.168.1.95 255.255.255.0 ipv6 enable ipv6 address 3FFE:2501:200:3::1/64 no cdp enable ! interface Serial0 ip address 128.127.1.1 255.255.255.0 no fair-queue ! no ip classless ! ipv6 route 3FFE::0/16 Tunnel0 ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password bugs login ! end bugs#show ip int brief Interface IP-Address OK? Method Status Protocol Ethernet0 192.168.1.95 YES NVRAM up up Serial0 128.127.1.1 YES NVRAM up up Tunnel0 192.168.1.95 YES unset up up bugs# bugs#show ipv6 int Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up IPv6 is enabled, link-local address is FE80::210:7BFF:FE36:AD63 Global unicast address(es): 3FFE:2501:200:3::1, subnet is 3FFE:2501:200:3::0/64 Joined group address(es): FF02::1 FF02::2 FF02::1:FF36:AD63 FF02::1:FF00:1 MTU is 1500 bytes ICMP error messages limited to one every 500 milliseconds ND advertised reachable time is 0 milliseconds ND advertised retransmit interval is 0 milliseconds ND router advertisements are sent every 200 seconds ND router advertisements live for 1800 seconds Hosts use stateless autoconfig for addresses. Tunnel0 is up, line protocol is up IPv6 is enabled, link-local address is FE80::10:7B36:AD63:8 Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Ethernet0 Address is 3FFE:2501:200:3::1 Joined group address(es): FF02::1 FF02::2 FF02::1:FF63:8 MTU is 1480 bytes ICMP error messages limited to one every 500 milliseconds ND advertised reachable time is 0 milliseconds ND advertised retransmit interval is 0 milliseconds ND router advertisements are sent every 200 seconds ND router advertisements live for 1800 seconds Hosts use stateless autoconfig for addresses. bugs# From twarwick@cisco.com Fri Dec 29 14:56:40 2000 From: twarwick@cisco.com (Trevor Warwick) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:56:40 +0000 Subject: Tunnel in cisco router. In-Reply-To: <002301c0719f$9afa2f40$0401a8c0@mithrandir> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001229145315.02270f08@jaws.cisco.com> In future, I'd ask everyone to please contact ipv6-support@cisco.com if you have support questions about Beta or EFT versions of Cisco IOS IPv6 software. You are likely to get more prompt, and more definitive, response from us directly. I think this is a simple configuration error, and will follow up offline to save further discussion on this list. Regards, Trevor At 29/12/2000, Mithrandir wrote: >Okay this is one out of a lot of try outs. > >Don't shoot me I just use this in a Closed LAN environment. > >It does not work. (Pinging that is) > >Router#show config -- Trevor Warwick Cisco IOS Software Development Manager, Stockley Park Tel: +44 (0)20 8756 9688 From patjensen@mediaone.net Sun Dec 31 09:12:21 2000 From: patjensen@mediaone.net (Pat Jensen) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 01:12:21 -0800 Subject: Tunnel Requests Message-ID: <000001c07309$c8e93340$5e00a8c0@we.mediaone.net> I am an NLA accepting requests for single-user or networked (/64) statically routed tunnels from users and companies wanting to experiment with IPv6 deployment on the 6bone. Requirements are a static IPv4 address, some form of always-on connectivity and familiarity with your vendors' IPv6 stack. Please feel free to send me an e-mail if you are interested or looking to augment your current IPv6 tunneling connectivity. My router is at 206.171.190.30, please use traceroute and ping to check performance from your location. Acceptable performance would be within 200ms. Thanks and Happy New Year! Patrick Jensen Researcher FutureUnix Foundation