From hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn Tue Apr 4 02:46:17 2000 From: hswu@ns.6test.edu.cn (Haisang Wu) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:46:17 +0800 (CST) Subject: Where is MS's IPv6 stack In-Reply-To: from Christian Kuhtz at "Apr 3, 2000 5:27:44 pm" Message-ID: <200004040146.JAA24309@ns.6test.edu.cn> hi, I have successfully installed IPv6 stack in Win2000. The installation process is rather simple. But I have not tested any performance of this version of stack. best Haisang > > Has anyone actually gotten this stack to work? I have not been able to. After > install I get an "invalid interrupt" (??) error, which promptly disappears > again after the IPv6 stack is uninstalled... > > Cheers, > Chris > > -- > Christian Kuhtz, Sr. Network Architect Architecture, BellSouth.net > -wk, -hm Atlanta, GA > "Speaking for myself only." > > > From yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw Tue Apr 4 05:20:57 2000 From: yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:20:57 +0800 Subject: About interface id in aggregatable global unicast address Message-ID: <38E96DA8.3083B0F0@ms.chttl.com.tw> I have one question about aggregatable global unicast address: In the format, there is one "Interface ID" field, which is 64-bit long. I think the length is too long and waste address space. (The field make the network part of IPv6 address to less than 64 bits) Since the requirement of the field is to make the interface on a link unique, why we use other method, such as EUI-48 only (only as an example), for the field? -- --------------------------------- Yann-Ju Chu Telecommunication Laboratories ChungHwa Telecom Co., Ltd. TEL: +886 3 424-5681 FAX: +886 3 424-4888 http://www.chttl.com.tw --------------------------------- From xavier@euro.net Tue Apr 4 09:54:53 2000 From: xavier@euro.net (Xavier Mertens) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:54:53 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Looking for /48 Message-ID: Hi *, We have big problems with NL.net! We had a /24 for months now and suddenly, we lost our IPv6 connecty! :-( We are now looking for an ISP which can asssign us a new sub-TLA and a tunnel... Thanks for your help! -- Xavier Mertens, . . EuroNet Internet "Contrary to popular belief, NOC Manager . * a subsidiary of Unix is userfriendly. It XM3-RIPE XM1-6BONE . France Telecom just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with." From xavier@euro.net Tue Apr 4 09:55:30 2000 From: xavier@euro.net (Xavier Mertens) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:55:30 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Looking for /48 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oups! It's not /24 but /48... :) X -- Xavier Mertens, . . EuroNet Internet "Contrary to popular belief, NOC Manager . * a subsidiary of Unix is userfriendly. It XM3-RIPE XM1-6BONE . France Telecom just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with." On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Xavier Mertens wrote: > Hi *, > > We have big problems with NL.net! We had a /24 for months now and suddenly, we > lost our IPv6 connecty! :-( > > We are now looking for an ISP which can asssign us a new sub-TLA and a tunnel... > > Thanks for your help! > > -- > Xavier Mertens, . . EuroNet Internet "Contrary to popular belief, > NOC Manager . * a subsidiary of Unix is userfriendly. It > XM3-RIPE XM1-6BONE . France Telecom just happens to be selective > about who it makes friends > with." > From crawdad@fnal.gov Tue Apr 4 14:40:42 2000 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 08:40:42 -0500 Subject: About interface id in aggregatable global unicast address In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:20:57 +0800. <38E96DA8.3083B0F0@ms.chttl.com.tw> Message-ID: <200004041340.IAA14656@gungnir.fnal.gov> > I think the length is too long and waste address space. (The field > make the network part of IPv6 address to less than 64 bits) Since > the requirement of the field is to make the interface on a link > unique, why we use other method, such as EUI-48 only (only as an > example), for the field? 1. Some media do not have a 48 bit identifier, but a 64-bit one, and an IEEE-defined mapping exists from 48 to 64 bit identifiers. 2. Some router implementors have claimed that routing on 64 bits rather than 80 can be significantly faster. 3. The door is left open by this choice to some future scheme in which the interface identifier is a globally unique identifier for a node. From crawdad@fnal.gov Tue Apr 4 19:00:55 2000 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:00:55 -0500 Subject: About interface id in aggregatable global unicast address In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:43:24 BST. Message-ID: <200004041800.NAA16261@gungnir.fnal.gov> > I hope this eases some confusion, but by globally unique identifier, I > assume you don't mean RFC-defined UUIDs/GUIDs, as these are 128-bits long. RFC-defined? Not in any IETF RFC I can see. Some RFCs reference DCE UUIDs or ISO-11578. But in any case, IPv6 addressing has nothing to do with any UUID or GUID. From brian@hursley.ibm.com Tue Apr 4 20:42:47 2000 From: brian@hursley.ibm.com (Brian E Carpenter) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:42:47 -0500 Subject: About interface id in aggregatable global unicast address References: <200004041800.NAA16261@gungnir.fnal.gov> Message-ID: <38EA45B7.BFCCDB46@hursley.ibm.com> As far as I know, although the Open Group UUID/GUID stuff was proposed for RFC publication in 1998, it was not published. At that time it had the defect of only supporting 48 bit IEEE addresses, not the complete EUI-64 format. In any case, as Matt says, that has nothing to do with IPv6, which does support EUI-64 identifiers. Brian Matt Crawford wrote: > > > I hope this eases some confusion, but by globally unique identifier, I > > assume you don't mean RFC-defined UUIDs/GUIDs, as these are 128-bits long. > > RFC-defined? Not in any IETF RFC I can see. Some RFCs reference DCE > UUIDs or ISO-11578. But in any case, IPv6 addressing has nothing to > do with any UUID or GUID. From burgess@mitre.org Wed Apr 5 19:26:40 2000 From: burgess@mitre.org (David Burgess) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:26:40 -0500 Subject: IPv6 and IPSec in real life.... Message-ID: <38EB8560.8FEF29BE@mitre.org> Here's what I have right now: (Best viewed in a fixed font) +-----+ | | A: Windows 95 machine using a Random Address | A |-----+ from a local ISP. | | | B: NetBSD-current running KAME +-----+ | C: Corporate Office | +-----+ +---+ +----+-----+ | | | C |--| Internet +------+ B +-------{ Local non-routable network } +---+ +----+-----+ | | +-----+ Here's where I want to end up: +-----+ | | A: Cisco 675 ADSL router (with a new static address) | A |-----+ connected to a pair of Win-95 machines (with | | | non-routable NATed addresses). +-----+ | B: NetBSD-current running KAME | C: Corporate Office | +-----+ +---+ +----+-----+ | | | C |--| Internet +------+ B +-------{ Local non-routable network } +---+ +----+-----+ | | +-----+ Clearly, I need a VPN solution, and since (B) already has IPSec and IPv6 loaded and working, could someone make some recommendations about what I need to research to figure out a workable solution for the Interconnect. Here are some specifics: "A" goes from being a single computer, connected via modem, on Monday, the 10th. Right now, it has no access to Network "B". "A" has a connection to the Internet (through a dial-up). "B" has a T-1 through an ISP. All of the sessions from "A" and "B" to the Corporate Office "C" are through a commercial VPN client. We might be able to use that if we can figure out the mechanism to make it work. Our corporate "solution" for IPSec VPN under Win-95 is "IntraPort", which I'm apparently just too stupid to figure out. We want the folks on Lan "B" to appear to be on Lan "A" without having to put in more hardware. We want them to be able to access our printers and other shared resources. We also want the traffic to be relatively secure. Simple IP-IP encapsulation has already been vetoed. Things I've already considered: 1) Upgrading the machines in box A to Windows-2000 and running the experimental IPv6 stuff on them. This is problematic from several reasons, not the least of them is the lack of IPv6 at the ISP. If we do that, we will need to use v4/v6 tunnelling from the W2K boxes to the local IPv6 gateway. 2) Installing another NetBSD/KAME box to act as a v4/v6 tunnel end. This is workable, but it requires us to go through the rigamarole of getting another computer. It also requires me to be in two places at the same time during configuration. 3) Using IntraPort, which except for some things that I can't figure out, would be OK. I'm not necessarily looking for a solution (although I certainly wouldn't turn one down). I'm just looking for some suggestions. My corporate office just puts their fingers in their ears and hums whenever I ask them the question, which is fine. I think I'll probably get a better answer here than I would from them anyway. Dave Burgess From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 5 22:31:54 2000 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:31:54 -0400 Subject: 6bone and RSVP Message-ID: Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers Just out curiosity, has anyone since I asked this question: (Anyone using the RSVP protocol on the 6Bone?) Done anything like that? I ask because I/We are looking for solutions, I am getting favorable responses from the RSVP list also hosted at ISI, but I am curious still about this one. Next up, is anyone aware of a service provider that has 6bone support, and dial up access? Everytime I pose this question to the people at this ISP (AT&T Worldnet) their responses range from "What?!?", to "Never even heard of it." I would even appreciate a service provider who can provide me access after dialling to the Internet from AT&T Worldnet. Please respond to all questions off line, as I do not want to crowd the mailling list with responses. Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi From snare@greenmount.org Thu Apr 6 03:20:22 2000 From: snare@greenmount.org (Amer Mallah) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:20:22 -0400 Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? Message-ID: Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? From bound@zk3.dec.com Thu Apr 6 03:34:56 2000 From: bound@zk3.dec.com (Jim Bound - Give me liberty or give me death) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 22:34:56 -0400 Subject: 6bone and RSVP In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:31:54 EDT." Message-ID: <200004060234.WAA0000017537@yquarry.zk3.dec.com> Hi Greg, Compaq Tru64 UNIX supports RSVP for IPv6 and we can act as router on a LAN too. If you want to set up some testing contact me privately and be glad to get folks to work with you. Right now we only support Control Load intserve, but that should be enough to do some testing. What would be a really good test is if we could run some IPv4 VoIP via IPv6 Tunnels across the 6bone and use RSVP to set up RESV points to decrease latency for real test results. I could probably get some of our VoIP ISVs to participate maybe too. regards, /jim From cross@eng.us.uu.net Thu Apr 6 05:22:40 2000 From: cross@eng.us.uu.net (Chris P. Ross) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? In-Reply-To: Amer Mallah's message of Wed, 5 April 2000 22:20:22 -0400 References: Message-ID: <14572.4368.171447.425665@ballista.eng.us.uu.net> "Amer Mallah" said: > Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that > matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? I am running the 199903 version on my 2524, and have no problems. Does IPv4 just fine, and has native IPv6 over a T1 to a cisco 4700 at work. All static routes, but.. Works just fine, and seems fairly stable at least for what I'm using it for... - Chris -- Chris P. Ross UUNET Technologies, Inc. cross@eng.us.uu.net R & D / Engineering cross@uu.net From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Thu Apr 6 05:36:11 2000 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:36:11 -0400 Subject: OT:Strange e-mail from Topica.com Message-ID: Hello from Gregg C Levine usually at Jedi Knight Computers Has anyone received a complaint from some outfit calling itself Topica.com? Yesterday I posted a message that most of you have seen, maybe seen and read, on IPv6, and RSVP. Well it endgendered a complaint from those guys, plus a weird message from some ****** at that shop. Naturally I immediately dashed off a couple of complaint messages, no responses yet. They claim to be a front-end for all of the mailling lists that are running here on the Internet. I have a feeling that they do not understand the way this one is set up. Please note that this message does not need a reply, if you wish to do so, please do so off of this list. Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi From snare@greenmount.org Thu Apr 6 06:02:13 2000 From: snare@greenmount.org (Amer Mallah) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:02:13 -0400 Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? In-Reply-To: <14572.4368.171447.425665@ballista.eng.us.uu.net> Message-ID: > > Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that > > matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? > > I am running the 199903 version on my 2524, and have no problems. > Does IPv4 just fine, and has native IPv6 over a T1 to a cisco 4700 at > work. All static routes, but.. Works just fine, and seems fairly > stable at least for what I'm using it for... I'm just a bit hesitant about upgrading because it is a production system (a local ISP). What does your running configuration look like? Does your Cisco 4700 have the IPv6 IOS? My situation is that the other end of my T1 doesn't (and probably won't until the last minute) support IPv6. So, I'd have to setup IPv4 to the other end of the T1 and some kind of 6to4 setup to whoever would provide a tunnel for us. (We're located in Baltimore, MD - any takers? :) Does the IOS support this kind of thing? amer From djpadz@padz.net Thu Apr 6 07:02:56 2000 From: djpadz@padz.net (Dj Padzensky) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:02:56 -0700 Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've got the IOS beta running on my 2513, and it seems to work. I haven't had much time to do any serious work with it (I'm still looking to get an address block for my network) outside of pinging, but it seems pretty stable at first blush. --Dj > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Amer > Mallah > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:20 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? > > > Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that > matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? > > From srg@2alpha.com Thu Apr 6 07:19:50 2000 From: srg@2alpha.com (Spencer Garrett) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:19:50 -0700 Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? Message-ID: <200004060619.XAA17492@mucho.2alpha.com> > From: "Amer Mallah" > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:20:22 -0400 > > Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that > matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? I tried to load it about 10 days ago, but the checksum failed, so I couldn't run it. (And, yes, I downloaded it multiple times in the same way that I download other IOS images that work...) I remember reading somewhere that IPv6 support was planned for IOS 12.1, but that's out now and the support isn't there. Spencer From woeber@cc.univie.ac.at Thu Apr 6 09:45:39 2000 From: woeber@cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 08:45:39 MET-DST Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? Message-ID: <009E832C.F2C731E8.3@cc.univie.ac.at> >Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers Yes (the 12.0-based beta). Ethernet, serial lines, tunnels and load-sharing. >(or any router for that matter)? Again, yes: 4500 (11.3 based and 12.0-based betas) Ethernet, ATM, serial lines >Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? It supports many things that you'd like to see reasonably well (should I say: surprisingly well?!), others are still missing or not working in one version or the next (e.g. there seems to be a loose end in v6 DNS). >Is it stable? It depends on what you throw at it :-) It's still beta code (accessible by NDA) and sometimes you are in for a surprise... But the same holds true for any and all v6 components that we had put fingers at, both vendor-supported as well as open source :-) Summary: Caution: wet paint! -WW _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ First things first, but not necessarily in that order.... 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References: <29569.954980636@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <38EC93EE.F62A03E1@mitre.org> itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > > >Here's what I have right now: > > > >(Best viewed in a fixed font) > > > >+-----+ > >| | A: Windows 95 machine using a Random Address > >| A |-----+ from a local ISP. > >| | | B: NetBSD-current running KAME > >+-----+ | C: Corporate Office > > | +-----+ > >+---+ +----+-----+ | | > >| C |--| Internet +------+ B +-------{ Local non-routable network } > >+---+ +----+-----+ | | > > +-----+ > > > >Here's where I want to end up: > > > >+-----+ > >| | A: Cisco 675 ADSL router (with a new static address) > >| A |-----+ connected to a pair of Win-95 machines (with > >| | | non-routable NATed addresses). > >+-----+ | B: NetBSD-current running KAME > > | C: Corporate Office > > | +-----+ > >+---+ +----+-----+ | | > >| C |--| Internet +------+ B +-------{ Local non-routable network } > >+---+ +----+-----+ | | > > +-----+ > > > >Clearly, I need a VPN solution, and since (B) already has IPSec and > >IPv6 loaded and working, could someone make some recommendations > >about what I need to research to figure out a workable solution for > >the Interconnect. > > It is not very clear, from the diagram, what you are trying to achieve. > Which part of the diagram is IPv6 network, and which part is IPv4? Network A is a pair of Windows machine on a NAT enabled Cisco 675. In order for these to become IPv6, we would need to upgrade them to W2K and install the IPv6 package from Microsoft. That would make the connection from A to B work, but that forces me to upgrade all of the servers in Network B to W2K. Network B is an IPv4 and IPv6 enabled network, using KAME and NetBSD. Network C is an IPv4 network which Network B can route for Network A (if network A becomes an IPv6 network). The Internet (for purposes of this situation) should be viewed as primarilty IPv4. Everyone on Networks A and B needs to be able to share resources. Everyone on Networks A and B needs to be able to see into Network C. No one from the Internet should be able to see into A, B, or C. > > itojun From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Thu Apr 6 16:05:29 2000 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Looking Glass In-Reply-To: <010601bf9fb6$dce62dc0$8102a8c0@kingstoninternet.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Ally Gudgeon wrote: > Hi - would anyone be able to tell me where I may get the source code for a IpV6 looking > glass using a cisco router? I was comtemplating creating one similar to the one I know have for IPv4: http://ryouko.dgim.crc.ca/x-bin/c2routes.pl Hmm...OK, it turns out I used to have a working version: http://ryouko.dgim.crc.ca/x-bin/c2v6routes.pl Sigh. I really gotta fix it. > Ally wfms From burgess@mitre.org Thu Apr 6 18:30:02 2000 From: burgess@mitre.org (David Burgess) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:30:02 -0500 Subject: IPv6 and IPSec in real life.... References: <8035.955037020@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: <38ECC99A.ECCE4E48@mitre.org> itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > > >Network A is a pair of Windows machine on a NAT enabled Cisco 675. > >In order for these to become IPv6, we would need to upgrade them > >to W2K and install the IPv6 package from Microsoft. That would > >make the connection from A to B work, but that forces me to upgrade > >all of the servers in Network B to W2K. > > > >Network B is an IPv4 and IPv6 enabled network, using KAME and NetBSD. > > > >Network C is an IPv4 network which Network B can route for Network A > >(if network A becomes an IPv6 network). > > > >The Internet (for purposes of this situation) should be viewed as > >primarilty IPv4. > > > >Everyone on Networks A and B needs to be able to share resources. > >Everyone on Networks A and B needs to be able to see into Network > >C. No one from the Internet should be able to see into A, B, or C. > > If your goal is to setup IPv6 connectivity > among A, B and C, You just need to take the following steps: > 1. make edge router for A, B and C (which has global IPv4 address - > outside of NAT) to be IPv4/v6 dual stack. > 2. establish IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel among edge routers, > 3. populate native IPv6 network into A, B and C. > now A, B and C has IPv6 connectivity. > > NAT is IPv4-only thing. You can just ignore them when you think about > IPv6 interconnection. > (In case you want IPv4 VPN, this is not the best place to ask) Thank you for the quick response. The more I think about it, the more I think your suggestion will work out the best. I can set up V6 over V4 routing between firewalls in both enclaves. This avoids the problem with the massive upgrades, but adds another computer into the mix. > > itojun From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 11 01:07:03 2000 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:07:03 -0400 Subject: Support on Slackware7 for IPv6 Message-ID: Hello from Gregg C Levine usually at Jedi Knight Computers Am I correct in assuming that the current build/version of Slackware contains support for IPv6? And that everything posted/quoted on the 6bone web site is applicable to that version? Don't everybody respond at once. Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 11 04:29:36 2000 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:29:36 -0400 Subject: OT:Strange e-mail from Topica.com (This is not a repeat message, this is a new one with a new item!) Message-ID: Hello from Gregg C Levine usually at Jedi Knight Computers Has anyone received a complaint from some outfit calling itself Topica.com? Today I posted a message that most of you have seen, maybe seen and read, on IPv6, and Linux from Slackwar v7.0. Well it endgendered a complaint from those guys, plus a weird message from some ****** at that shop. Naturally I immediately dashed off a couple of complaint messages, no responses yet. They claim to be a front-end for all of the mailling lists that are running here on the Internet. I have a feeling that they do not understand the way this one is set up. Please note that this message does not need a reply, if you wish to do so, please do so off of this list. Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi From carton@Ivy.NET Tue Apr 11 08:34:12 2000 From: carton@Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:34:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: OT:Strange e-mail from Topica.com (This is not a repeat message, this is a new one with a new item!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Gregg C Levine wrote: > Has anyone received a complaint from some outfit calling itself Topica.com? This is becoming a FAQ. I sent a description of the problem to 6bone-owner. I got no reply. Hence the noise on the list itself. ``Don't blame me.'' Is anyone reading the owner address? Someone should be. This problem looks to me like it requires the attention of the list administrator, and isn't getting it. I discussed this with Topica at length. Basically, all they did was, finally, agree with my analysis--a user named 'fla-mail@isfa.com' is subscribed to the 6bone list. That user needs to be unsubscribed. Only the owner of THIS list can do it. If Topica's and my analysis is correct, then what's required is no more than the most basic of list-administrator tasks--unsubscribe an address that's bouncing mail. If the situation is more complicated than I suggested, then what's required is: 1) a timely reply to mail sent to 6bone-owner@isi.edu. else it is reasonable to assume that the list has no owner, and is anymore completely machine-run. This causes people like me to spam the list, and is therefore very bad. 2) possibly a public explanation that the problem is being worked on. as is, it took me a lot of digging just to conclude that my earlier post actually went out to the list and wasn't lost. This is confusing enough to warrant public noise. The Topica questions from newbies are annoying, but they are also reasonable. The error messages Topica is sending are really confusing. Also, it is inappropriate for this list to negligently inject off-topic traffic into a Soccer special-interest list, which is what the incorrect subscription is doing. If the 6bone-owner has dissappeared, maybe someone knows how to get a new ``owner'' put in place? If not, then I think this list should be moved off ISI. There are a lot of people here who have the resources and competence to host a list of this volume, and who would be able to do simple housekeeping like this as needed. We do not need the blessing of an apparently vacant authority to accept an offer from some random generous sysadmin and move onto his box en masse. Can someone fix the Topica thing or not? It is not a lot to ask. w.t.f. is going on? -- Miles Nordin / v:+1 720 841-8308 fax:+1 530 579-8680 555 Bryant Street PMB 182 / Palo Alto, CA 94301-1700 / US From Nora_Parker@monterey.edu Tue Apr 11 14:42:34 2000 From: Nora_Parker@monterey.edu (Nora Parker) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:42:34 -0700 Subject: ipv6 address- quick question In-Reply-To: <38D6C866.CB18338C@kt.co.kr> References: <38D6C866.CB18338C@kt.co.kr> Message-ID: I have read many books and papers on the addresses for ipv6 but still can't figure out exactly what the three different address on the eth0 are. Can someone give me quick explanation of the Link, Site and Global address? thanks Nora From slt@lanl.gov Tue Apr 11 15:12:04 2000 From: slt@lanl.gov (Sandra Turner) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:12:04 -0600 Subject: Redhat 6.2 tunnel request Message-ID: <4.1.20000411080814.00b4e6c0@cic-mail.lanl.gov> Who should I talk to about getting an IPv6-in-IPv4-tunnel fro RedHat 6.2? I've sent a previous email to this address as well as Bob Fink and have not gotten any reply. I'm in Los Alamos, NM at Los Alamos National Laboratory. My ip address is 128.165.114.229 and host name is pn828014. My inet6 addr from ifconfig is fe80::210:5aff:fe02:2f05/10 and HW addr is 00:10:5A:02:2F:05. From fd97202@bits-pilani.ac.in Wed Apr 12 12:48:53 2000 From: fd97202@bits-pilani.ac.in (fd97202@bits-pilani.ac.in) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:18:53 +0530 (IST) Subject: ipv6 address- quick question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Ok .. A Quick Explanation... Link Local - > this address is used within a link..(i.e Link local addresses are not fowarded by the router).Automatically Set Based on EUI-64. Used primarily for neighbour discovery etc. Site Local -> valid within a site.Can be assigned Global -> Valid anywhere within the Internet domain..Assigned. Try RFC-1884 (IPv6 addressing specs.) for more detail. On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Nora Parker wrote: > I have read many books and papers on the addresses for ipv6 but still > can't figure out exactly what the three different address on the eth0 are. > Can someone give me quick explanation of the Link, Site and Global > address? > > thanks > Nora > > From wildandi@scene.at Wed Apr 12 21:42:29 2000 From: wildandi@scene.at (Wildandi) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:42:29 +0200 Subject: Getting IPv6 Adress Message-ID: <38F4DFB5.4FA9C925@scene.at> Hello, I'm from Austria and have 64kbit connection (ISDN) to the internet. So where can i get my IPv6 adress for my location? greets Wildandi From fink@es.net Wed Apr 12 21:56:30 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:56:30 -0700 Subject: Getting IPv6 Adress In-Reply-To: <38F4DFB5.4FA9C925@scene.at> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000412135604.0191dc98@imap2.es.net> At 10:42 PM 4/12/2000 +0200, Wildandi wrote: >Hello, > >I'm from Austria and have 64kbit connection (ISDN) to the internet. >So where can i get my IPv6 adress for my location? Take a look at freent6: Bob From whipple@zama.net Thu Apr 13 01:11:03 2000 From: whipple@zama.net (Todd Whipple) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:11:03 -0700 Subject: Getting IPv6 Adress In-Reply-To: <38F4DFB5.4FA9C925@scene.at> Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000412171044.00abd4a0@mail.zama.net> www.freenet6.net At 10:42 PM 4/12/2000 +0200, Wildandi wrote: >Hello, > >I'm from Austria and have 64kbit connection (ISDN) to the internet. >So where can i get my IPv6 adress for my location? > >greets > >Wildandi From truman@superlink.net Thu Apr 13 02:29:59 2000 From: truman@superlink.net (truman) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Router vendors Message-ID: <200004130129.VAA14193@saturn.superlink.net> q From mathias.teikari@telscom.ch Thu Apr 13 08:31:26 2000 From: mathias.teikari@telscom.ch (Mathias Teikari) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:31:26 +0200 Subject: ipv6 address- quick question References: Message-ID: <38F577CE.25FC4EB2@telscom.ch> fd97202@bits-pilani.ac.in wrote: > Global -> Valid anywhere within the Internet domain..Assigned. > > Try RFC-1884 (IPv6 addressing specs.) for more detail. FYI: Note that RFC 1884 has been obsoleted by RFC 2373 !! http://130.225.51.30/RFC/rfc/rfc2373.html / Mathias -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Mathias Teikari mathias.teikari@telscom.ch | | Ba. Sc. EE. Office Ph: +41 (0)31 376 2030 | | SW Development Engineer Mobile Ph: +41 (0)76 541 9449 | | Telscom AG Sandrainstr. 17, CH-3007 Bern | | | +----------------- http://www.telscom.ch -------------------+ From Ivano.Guardini@CSELT.IT Thu Apr 13 09:55:25 2000 From: Ivano.Guardini@CSELT.IT (Guardini Ivano) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:55:25 +0200 Subject: Getting IPv6 Adress Message-ID: <9187FF572943D211B28100805FC130FC011DA9C1@xrr1.cselt.it> You can use the Tunnel Broker service available at CSELT: http://carmen.cselt.it/ipv6tb Bye Ivano > ---------- > From: Wildandi[SMTP:wildandi@scene.at] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:42 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Getting IPv6 Adress > > Hello, > > I'm from Austria and have 64kbit connection (ISDN) to the internet. > So where can i get my IPv6 adress for my location? > > greets > > Wildandi > From mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie Thu Apr 13 15:56:51 2000 From: mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie (Mike Knell) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:56:51 +0100 Subject: IPv6 in Ireland? Message-ID: <200004131456.PAA21155@little.cs.tcd.ie> Folks, I'm looking for people who are using IPv6 in Ireland -- we've been looking at getting our act together and connecting to the 6bone, but the few sites in the country that are on the 6bone seem to have mostly lost interest, according to my scanty research. If nobody else comes forward, I'll offer to start a list for those people doing stuff with v6 around here, to foster discussion. Mike -- Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ From ksbn@kt.co.kr Sat Apr 15 02:13:31 2000 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:13:31 +0900 Subject: v6 router performance Message-ID: <38F7C23B.F7B7C543@kt.co.kr> How are you? I hope to know the performance difference between IPv4 routers and IPv6 routers. Will you help me? What can I do to get the data of performance difference between IPv4 routers and IPv6 routers? Thanks, ksb -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From peter-v6@jazz-1.trumpet.com.au Sat Apr 15 02:13:05 2000 From: peter-v6@jazz-1.trumpet.com.au (Peter Tattam (IPv6 Mail)) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:13:05 +1000 (EST) Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We are running our 6 bone gateway using an old 2511. Had to upgrade the RAM to fit it in, but it runs just fine. It runs BGP and handles several tunnels. The volume is low so no problems on that front, but it should be able to deliver up to T1 rates. We are running it as a production PPP server for IPv6 access. It works, but there's not a lot of demand yet :) Peter On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Dj Padzensky wrote: > > I've got the IOS beta running on my 2513, and it seems to work. I haven't > had much time to do any serious work with it (I'm still looking to get an > address block for my network) outside of pinging, but it seems pretty stable > at first blush. > > --Dj > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Amer > > Mallah > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:20 PM > > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > > Subject: Cisco IOS beta with IPv6 support? > > > > > > Has anyone tried this on the 25xx series routers (or any router for that > > matter)? Does it support both IPv4 and IPv6? Is it stable? > > > > > > -- Peter R. Tattam peter-v6@trumpet.com.au Managing Director, Trumpet Software International Pty Ltd Hobart, Australia, Ph. +61-3-6245-0220, Fax +61-3-62450210 From ekline@ekline.com Sun Apr 16 07:02:10 2000 From: ekline@ekline.com (Erik Kline) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: IPv6 job listing Message-ID: Pardon my asking this here, but in all my research on-line, I've not found anything like an IPv6 job board. Is there such a thing for someone looking to do IPv6-related work? Any recommendations about where to go? (besides the obvious ones ;) __________ Erik Kline ekline.com From whipple@zama.net Sun Apr 16 16:29:47 2000 From: whipple@zama.net (Todd Whipple) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: IPv6 job listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Erik Kline wrote: > > Pardon my asking this here, but in all my research on-line, I've not found > anything like an IPv6 job board. Is there such a thing for someone looking > to do IPv6-related work? Any recommendations about where to go? (besides > the obvious ones ;) > In about a week, take a look at www.zama.net. Todd Whipple From alanp@linux.com Mon Apr 17 00:50:33 2000 From: alanp@linux.com (Alan P. Laudicina) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Cable modem Message-ID: I was wondering if any pTLAs would give an ipv6 block to a box behind a cable modem, or do you need to have a faster connection than that? Thanks, Alan P. Laudicina -- | Alan P. Laudicina / alanp@linux.com | | http://corp.linux.com / http://www.unixpower.org | | "You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you | | can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone (1899-1947) | From mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie Mon Apr 17 15:51:03 2000 From: mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie (Mike Knell) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:51:03 +0100 Subject: ipv6 in .ie - new list Message-ID: <200004171451.PAA07498@little.cs.tcd.ie> As my researches on local v6 activity have more or less drawn a blank (thanks to the folks who were able to provide info), I've created a list for people interested in v6 in Ireland. It's not intended to provide configuration assistance or basic stuff that's already covered in documentation, but more for general discussions of local implementation, who's doing what, etc. mail majordomo@cs.tcd.ie subscribe iev6 (yes, that's iev6 - bad pun which will probably cause lots of bounces in the future, but hey) Mike -- Computer Science System Administrator, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland mike.knell@cs.tcd.ie -=- http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Mike.Knell/ From ksbn@kt.co.kr Sat Apr 22 02:44:11 2000 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:44:11 +0900 Subject: Question of AS Message-ID: <390103EB.F9230A28@kt.co.kr> How are you? I have used same IPv6 AS number for IPv4 on my experiment network. Then I have a question for the IPv6 AS number. What is recommend that same IPv6 AS munber for IPv4 or different IPv6 AS number for using IPv4? Thanks, ksb -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From pfs@cisco.com Sat Apr 22 11:29:19 2000 From: pfs@cisco.com (Philip Smith) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:29:19 +1000 Subject: Question of AS In-Reply-To: <390103EB.F9230A28@kt.co.kr> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000422202323.00b85d50@lint.cisco.com> From my view of the 6bone, most participants seem to be using the ASN they use for their IPv4 backbones. I'd also suspect that in the longer run it would ease migration from IPv4 only backbone to an IPv6 capable backbone if you used the same ASN. Those organisations I have been involved with certainly are adopting that strategy. (Their argument is that they want the IPv6 capable part of their infrastructure to be an integral part of the existing infrastructure, not a separate network they have to somehow peer with.) philip -- At 10:44 22/04/00 +0900, ksb wrote: >How are you? > >I have used same IPv6 AS number for IPv4 on >my experiment network. >Then I have a question for the IPv6 AS number. > >What is recommend that same IPv6 AS munber >for IPv4 or different IPv6 AS number for using >IPv4? > >Thanks, >ksb > >-- > Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom > TEL : +82-42-870-8322 > FAX : +82-42-870-8329 > E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr >-- > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Philip Smith vm: 6178202 ph: +61 7 3238 8202 Consulting Engineering, Office of the CTO, Cisco Systems -------------------------------------------------------- From ettikan@nttmsc.com.my Mon Apr 24 02:15:05 2000 From: ettikan@nttmsc.com.my (Ettikan Kandasamy) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:15:05 +0900 Subject: Question of AS Message-ID: --0__=cKpPrWpf1QTIHHNNDan1JqvnGcOex9U0pCbwQPvdiCRFtDsSBWM7x4Oq Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline Does this is accepted by the RIRs ???? -ettikan Philip Smith on 04/22/2000 11:29:19 AM To: ksbn@kt.co.kr cc: 6Bone-KR <6bone-kr@6bone.ne.kr>, 6Bone(WIDE) <6bone-jp@wide.ad.jp>, 6bone( --0__=cKpPrWpf1QTIHHNNDan1JqvnGcOex9U0pCbwQPvdiCRFtDsSBWM7x4Oq Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Disposition: inline ±¹ --0__=cKpPrWpf1QTIHHNNDan1JqvnGcOex9U0pCbwQPvdiCRFtDsSBWM7x4Oq Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline $BNO(B) <6bone@ISI.EDU> (bcc: Ettikan Kandasamy/NTTMSC) Subject: Re: Question of AS --0__=cKpPrWpf1QTIHHNNDan1JqvnGcOex9U0pCbwQPvdiCRFtDsSBWM7x4Oq Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline From my view of the 6bone, most participants seem to be using the ASN they use for their IPv4 backbones. I'd also suspect that in the longer run it would ease migration from IPv4 only backbone to an IPv6 capable backbone if you used the same ASN. Those organisations I have been involved with certainly are adopting that strategy. (Their argument is that they want the IPv6 capable part of their infrastructure to be an integral part of the existing infrastructure, not a separate network they have to somehow peer with.) philip -- At 10:44 22/04/00 +0900, ksb wrote: >How are you? > >I have used same IPv6 AS number for IPv4 on >my experiment network. >Then I have a question for the IPv6 AS number. > >What is recommend that same IPv6 AS munber >for IPv4 or different IPv6 AS number for using >IPv4? > >Thanks, >ksb > >-- > Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom > TEL : +82-42-870-8322 > FAX : +82-42-870-8329 > E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr >-- > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Philip Smith vm: 6178202 ph: +61 7 3238 8202 Consulting Engineering, Office of the CTO, Cisco Systems -------------------------------------------------------- --0__=cKpPrWpf1QTIHHNNDan1JqvnGcOex9U0pCbwQPvdiCRFtDsSBWM7x4Oq-- From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Mon Apr 24 03:31:27 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:31:27 -0400 Subject: calling for help from developers Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000423221448.01721880@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> Hi, We are preparing a presentation at the next IPv6Forum event in UK mid may and want to send a positive message: porting apps to ipv6 is not difficult. We are going to present some details on porting apps to IPv6 as well as an example of a project we did. I'm looking for information from developers who ported code to IPv6, specially some numbers. If people can give some info on their porting work, it would be very useful. Credits will be given as appropriate. I can make a summary to the list if people are interested. For example, I'm providing a simple template to fill out: application name: application type (game, network app, office app,...): language: total number of lines of code: lines modified for IPv6: most important issues found: Thanks for your help, Regards, Marc. PS. anyone has a script that can scan through a freebsd ports directory, count the number of lines of code of each app and then count the number of lines modified by the patches, all in one line perl or... ? just asking in case someone has done that before... Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From ettikan@nttmsc.com.my Mon Apr 24 06:03:56 2000 From: ettikan@nttmsc.com.my (Ettikan Kandasamy) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:03:56 +0900 Subject: Payload for IP over Ethernet : IPv6 over IPv4 Message-ID: I have question/verification on IP/TCP payload size As in RFC 1933 ( for tunneling methods ), MTU for Ethernet is 1514 bytes and 14 bytes is for ethernet header leaves 1500 bytes for payload. So it looks as follows for TCP for IPv4 , IPv6 , IPv6 over v4 and IPv4 over v6 v4 v6 v6 over v4 v4 over v6 IP Header 20 40 20 40 IP Payload 1480 1460 1480 1460 Header (for v6 ) 40 (for v4) 20 Payload 1440 1440 TCP header 20 20 20 20 TCP payload 1460 1440 1420 1420 Any options ... xxx xxx xxx xxx (Actual payload) yyy yyy yyy yyy Am I right !!! thanks in advance. -ettikan From wildandi@scene.at Mon Apr 24 14:31:04 2000 From: wildandi@scene.at (Wildandi) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:31:04 +0200 Subject: configuration problem Message-ID: <39044C98.36E35EEE@scene.at> Hi! I got my ipv6 adress vom freenet6 and the script for linux (i have kernel 2.2.10 with ipv6 module) but when i start that script: eth1 is my device for internet and eth0 for lan. ifconfig sit0 up ifconfig sit0 tunnel ::206.123.31.102 ifconfig sit1 up ifconfig eth1 add 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:37d route -A inet6 add 3ffe::0/16 gw fe80::206.123.31.102 dev sit1 I cant ping6 or tracerroute6 anybody. Any Ideas? From fink@es.net Mon Apr 24 16:14:34 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:14:34 -0700 Subject: Question of AS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000424081320.02405130@imap2.es.net> At 10:15 AM 4/24/2000 +0900, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: >Does this is accepted by the RIRs ???? I believe they support this. Bob === >Philip Smith on 04/22/2000 11:29:19 AM > >To: ksbn@kt.co.kr >cc: 6Bone-KR <6bone-kr@6bone.ne.kr>, 6Bone(WIDE) <6bone-jp@wide.ad.jp>, > 6bone(Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 >Content-Disposition: inline >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by zephyr.isi.edu id SAB03844 > >$BNO(B) <6bone@ISI.EDU> (bcc: Ettikan Kandasamy/NTTMSC) > >Subject: Re: Question of AS > > > > From my view of the 6bone, most participants seem to be using the ASN they >use for their IPv4 backbones. > >I'd also suspect that in the longer run it would ease migration from IPv4 >only backbone to an IPv6 capable backbone if you used the same ASN. Those >organisations I have been involved with certainly are adopting that >strategy. (Their argument is that they want the IPv6 capable part of their >infrastructure to be an integral part of the existing infrastructure, not a >separate network they have to somehow peer with.) > >philip >-- > >At 10:44 22/04/00 +0900, ksb wrote: > >How are you? > > > >I have used same IPv6 AS number for IPv4 on > >my experiment network. > >Then I have a question for the IPv6 AS number. > > > >What is recommend that same IPv6 AS munber > >for IPv4 or different IPv6 AS number for using > >IPv4? > > > >Thanks, > >ksb > > > >-- > > Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom > > TEL : +82-42-870-8322 > > FAX : +82-42-870-8329 > > E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr > >-- > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Philip Smith vm: 6178202 ph: +61 7 3238 8202 >Consulting Engineering, Office of the CTO, Cisco Systems >-------------------------------------------------------- > From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Mon Apr 24 16:26:43 2000 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:26:43 -0400 Subject: configuration problem In-Reply-To: <39044C98.36E35EEE@scene.at> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000424112552.0307afe0@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> Please send your questions on freenet6 to support@freenet6.net, someone will help you out. (unless you have a more generic question to address!) Marc. At/À 15:31 2000-04-24 +0200, Wildandi you wrote/vous écriviez: >Hi! > >I got my ipv6 adress vom freenet6 and the script for linux (i have >kernel 2.2.10 with ipv6 module) but when i start that script: >eth1 is my device for internet and eth0 for lan. > >ifconfig sit0 up >ifconfig sit0 tunnel ::206.123.31.102 >ifconfig sit1 up >ifconfig eth1 add 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:37d >route -A inet6 add 3ffe::0/16 gw fe80::206.123.31.102 dev sit1 > > >I cant ping6 or tracerroute6 anybody. >Any Ideas? > > Marc Blanchet Viagénie inc. tel: 418-656-9254 http://www.viagenie.qc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- Normos (http://www.normos.org): Internet standards portal: IETF RFC, drafts, IANA, W3C, ATMForum, ISO, ... all in one place. From wildandi@scene.at Mon Apr 24 19:59:07 2000 From: wildandi@scene.at (Wildandi) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:59:07 +0200 Subject: ipv6 router Message-ID: <3904997B.17EA901A@scene.at> Hi! Thanks to all who helped be before to get my ipv6 working! It works fine with freenet6. But now i've got an 0/80 and need to know how to configure an ipv6 router under openbsd. Can somebody help me to configure it? Greets Andi From wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca Mon Apr 24 20:30:08 2000 From: wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca (William F. Maton) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: configuration problem In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000424112552.0307afe0@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Marc Blanchet wrote: > >I got my ipv6 adress vom freenet6 and the script for linux (i have > >kernel 2.2.10 with ipv6 module) but when i start that script: > >eth1 is my device for internet and eth0 for lan. > > > >ifconfig sit0 up > >ifconfig sit0 tunnel ::206.123.31.102 > >ifconfig sit1 up > >ifconfig eth1 add 3ffe:b00:c18:1fff:0:0:0:37d > >route -A inet6 add 3ffe::0/16 gw fe80::206.123.31.102 dev sit1 Did you say "ipv6 as module"? Try compiling the kernel with IPv6 built-in. I have heard of problems related to IPv6 as a module. wfms From deering@cisco.com Tue Apr 25 02:45:18 2000 From: deering@cisco.com (Steve Deering) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:45:18 -0700 Subject: Payload for IP over Ethernet : IPv6 over IPv4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:03 PM +0900 4/24/00, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: >MTU for Ethernet is 1514 bytes and 14 bytes is for ethernet header leaves >1500 bytes for payload. A technical nit: As used by the IP community, the MTU of a link refers to the maximum IP packet size that can be transmitted on the link without doing fragmentation. Thus, the MTU of Ethernet is 1500 bytes, not 1514. >So it looks as follows for TCP for IPv4 , IPv6 , IPv6 over v4 and IPv4 over v6 > > v4 v6 v6 over v4 v4 over v6 > >IP Header 20 40 20 40 >IP Payload 1480 1460 1480 >1460 > Header >(for v6 ) 40 (for v4) 20 > Payload >1440 1440 >TCP header 20 20 20 20 >TCP payload 1460 1440 1420 >1420 >Any options ... xxx xxx xxx >xxx >(Actual payload) yyy yyy yyy >yyy > > >Am I right !!! Because of inconsistent spacing and random line-breaking, the columns in your table don't line up and I cannot understand it. Please send again, but when you type it in, use a fixed-width font, no tab characters, and a carriage return at the end of each line in the table. Steve From ettikan@nttmsc.com.my Tue Apr 25 03:11:49 2000 From: ettikan@nttmsc.com.my (Ettikan Kandasamy) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:11:49 +0900 Subject: Payload for IP over Ethernet : IPv6 over IPv4 Message-ID: Hello Steve, I'm sorry for the improper text display (due to my mail editor). With 1500 bytes for ether IP traffic, >So it looks as follows for TCP for IPv4 , IPv6 , IPv6 over v4 and IPv4 over v6 > > v4 v6 v6ov4 v4ov6 > >IP Header 20 40 20 40 >IP Payload 1480 1460 1480 1460 > Header 40 20 > Payload 1440 1440 >TCP header 20 20 20 20 >TCP payload 1460 1440 1420 1420 >Any options ... xxx xxx xxx xxx >(Actual payload) yyy yyy yyy yyy -ettikan From deering@cisco.com Tue Apr 25 05:14:03 2000 From: deering@cisco.com (Steve Deering) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:14:03 -0700 Subject: Payload for IP over Ethernet : IPv6 over IPv4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:11 AM +0900 4/25/00, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: > >So it looks as follows for TCP for IPv4 , >IPv6 , IPv6 over v4 and IPv4 over v6 > > > > v4 v6 v6ov4 v4ov6 > > > >IP Header 20 40 20 40 > >IP Payload 1480 1460 1480 1460 > > Header 40 20 > > Payload 1440 1440 > >TCP header 20 20 20 20 > >TCP payload 1460 1440 1420 1420 > >Any options ... xxx xxx xxx xxx > >(Actual payload) yyy yyy yyy yyy Yes, that looks right (for the specific case of Ethernet MTU), with the qualification that "any options" could by IPv4 options, IPv6 extension headers, and/or TCP options. Steve From nsayer@quack.kfu.com Wed Apr 26 01:22:04 2000 From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Stupid question - need 6to4 relay router? Message-ID: <200004260022.RAA69033@morpheus.kfu.com> I suppose this doesn't really have anything to do with the 6bone, but I can't find the answer in the FAQs I've been able to find. I have set up 6to4, but it appears that in order to reach non 2002:: addresses I need to find a relay router willing to act as my inet6 default route. Is there a list of those somewhere? From bmanning@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 27 18:24:28 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: configuring our site for ip6.int. DNS reverse mapping In-Reply-To: from "Vitali A. Chipitsyn" at Apr 27, 2000 01:16:36 PM Message-ID: <200004271724.KAA26279@zephyr.isi.edu> % % % Hello, % % We have a BIND-9.0.0b2 DNS server that is configured with IPv6 support % (using A6 and DNAME RRs). We think the server is in a relatively good % shape. Now we need to setup records under the ip6.int. domain to permit % reverse IPv6 address resolution for our domains. % % We would like to know who we should contact. We have contacted a couple % of people a week ago, but so far they have been unresponsive. % % Thank you. % % --vc You should contact the folks who delegated you IPv6 address space. -- --bill From richdr@microsoft.com Thu Apr 27 18:28:56 2000 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:28:56 -0700 Subject: configuring our site for ip6.int. DNS reverse mapping Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21FD8@RED-MSG-50> What about for 6to4 address space? > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Manning [mailto:bmanning@ISI.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 10:24 AM > To: vchipitsyn@acm.org > Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU; users@ipv6.org > Subject: Re: configuring our site for ip6.int. DNS reverse mapping > > > % > % > % Hello, > % > % We have a BIND-9.0.0b2 DNS server that is configured with > IPv6 support > % (using A6 and DNAME RRs). We think the server is in a > relatively good > % shape. Now we need to setup records under the ip6.int. > domain to permit > % reverse IPv6 address resolution for our domains. > % > % We would like to know who we should contact. We have > contacted a couple > % of people a week ago, but so far they have been unresponsive. > % > % Thank you. > % > % --vc > > You should contact the folks who delegated you IPv6 address space. > > > -- > --bill > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The IPv6 Users Mailing List > Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe users" to majordomo@ipv6.org > From richdr@microsoft.com Thu Apr 27 17:13:13 2000 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:13:13 -0700 Subject: Stupid question - need 6to4 relay router? Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D810229885F9@RED-MSG-50> You can use 6to4.ipv6.microsoft.com. > -----Original Message----- > From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com [mailto:nsayer@quack.kfu.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 5:22 PM > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Stupid question - need 6to4 relay router? > > > I suppose this doesn't really have anything to do with the 6bone, > but I can't find the answer in the FAQs I've been able to find. > > I have set up 6to4, but it appears that in order to reach > non 2002:: addresses I need to find a relay router willing to > act as my inet6 default route. Is there a list of those somewhere? > From FRANCISCOD@advance.com.ar Thu Apr 27 19:29:17 2000 From: FRANCISCOD@advance.com.ar (Francisco, Diego) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:29:17 -0300 Subject: Stupid question - need DNS? Message-ID: <96A02275DD84D311B765006008C50AEA75EDEF@advtal10.inadvance.com.ar> I can't find an ipv6 DNS ? From fink@es.net Thu Apr 27 23:04:51 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:04:51 -0700 Subject: new 6bone pTLA assigned to UUNET-US Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000427150258.01be9b88@imap2.es.net> UUNET-US has requested a pTLA based on their previous experience with UUNET-UK. As they fully meet our criteria, I have taken the liberty of issuing them a pTLA: 3FFE:8090::/28 Thanks, Bob From bmanning@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 28 02:11:23 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new 6bone pTLA assigned to UUNET-US In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000427150258.01be9b88@imap2.es.net> from "Bob Fink" at Apr 27, 2000 03:04:51 PM Message-ID: <200004280111.SAA26149@zephyr.isi.edu> % % UUNET-US has requested a pTLA based on their previous experience with UUNET-UK. % % As they fully meet our criteria, I have taken the liberty of issuing them a % pTLA: % % 3FFE:8090::/28 % % % % Thanks, % Bob Did they happen to indicate which nameservers will be associated with this delegation? --bill From fink@es.net Fri Apr 28 05:12:12 2000 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:12:12 -0700 Subject: new 6bone pTLA assigned to UUNET-US In-Reply-To: <200004280111.SAA26149@zephyr.isi.edu> References: <4.2.2.20000427150258.01be9b88@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000427210807.00b18ed8@imap2.es.net> Bill, At 06:11 PM 4/27/2000 -0700, Bill Manning wrote: >% >% UUNET-US has requested a pTLA based on their previous experience with >UUNET-UK. >% >% As they fully meet our criteria, I have taken the liberty of issuing them a >% pTLA: >% >% 3FFE:8090::/28 >% >% >% >% Thanks, >% Bob > > Did they happen to indicate which nameservers will be associated > with this delegation? Please just ask "Chris P. Ross" directly. Thanks, Bob From nsayer@quack.kfu.com Fri Apr 28 06:48:06 2000 From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:48:06 -0700 Subject: configuring our site for ip6.int. DNS reverse mapping References: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21FD8@RED-MSG-50> Message-ID: <39092616.E3EA3A52@quack.kfu.com> Richard Draves wrote: > > What about for 6to4 address space? [boldly leaping forward] If no one else steps forward, I would be willing to conquer this job. I can cobble together some scripts and some web that will keep track of 6to4 NS records for the ip6.int space. Of course, someone would have to delegate the 2.0.0.2.ip6.int. level to me. 1. Please don't hate me if this has already been done and I am speaking out of turn. 2. I don't think this is quite as daunting a task as it may at first appear. It is likely in my mind that the number of 6to4 routers will be on the order of 1 per site and that they are likely to end up being phased out over time anyway. I further suspect that the number of such relays at the moment is low. Further, there is an obvious 1:1 relationship between 6to4 prefixes, 6to4 routers and 2.0.0.2.ip6.int zones. And if in the future the task becomes more daunting rather than less, the delegations can be broken up. 3. Giving control of this to the folks who manage the in-addr.arpa zones, namely the IPv4 ISPs is... (how shall I put it?) unlikely to result in forward moving action, as many many many ISPs are as yet clueless about IPv6. From nsayer@quack.kfu.com Sun Apr 30 17:05:52 2000 From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:05:52 -0700 Subject: inverse mapping for 6to4 [Re: configuring our site for ip6.int...] References: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8101CA21FD8@RED-MSG-50> <39092616.E3EA3A52@quack.kfu.com> Message-ID: <390C59E0.151F3306@quack.kfu.com> Simon Leinen wrote: > > >>>>> "ns" == Nick Sayer writes: > > Richard Draves wrote: > >> > >> What about for 6to4 address space? > > > [boldly leaping forward] > > > If no one else steps forward, I would be willing to conquer this > > job. I can cobble together some scripts and some web that will keep > > track of 6to4 NS records for the ip6.int space. > > Personally I'd find it more elegant/useful to delegate 2.0.0.2.ip6.int > to nameservers that map PTR requests to CNAME pointers into the > IN-ADDR.ARPA space, e.g. for the 6to4 address > > 2002:823b:1d2:4:a00:20ff:fe9c:792b ^^^^^^^^ Use Suns much? :-) > ^^^^^^^^ > <=> 130.59.1.210 (6to4 gateway) > > one might be redirected as follows: > > dig ptr -x b.2.9.7.c.9.e.f.f.f.0.2.0.0.a.0.4.0.0.0.2.d.1.0.b.3.2.8.2.0.0.2.IP6.INT. > => IN CNAME b.2.9.7.c.9.e.f.f.f.0.2.0.0.a.0.4.0.0.0.6TO4.210.1.59.130.IN-ADDR.ARPA. > > That way the owner of the inverse mapping for 130.59.1.210 could > simply add PTR records or sub-delegations for the 6to4 addresses under > that prefix. > > Ideally, this style of automatic redirection could be combined with > traditional delegations to accomodate situations where the 6to4 and > IPv4 inverse mappings cannot be coordinated for some reason (such as > someone at a University trying to set up a properly inverse-mapped > 6to4 cloud in a lab, and not getting any cooperation from the > hostmaster at Computing Services who is in charge of the IPv4 inverse > mapping). There are 2^32 IPv4 addresses, and only a tiny fraction of them are going to be represented in 6to4 prefixes. Additionally, 6to4 is only a compatibility hack whose useful lifespan is finite and (we all hope) short. The path of least resistance is to simply manage the zone for the few years it will remain relevant. I allege that given the cluefullness most ISPs have lacked so far about IPv6 (at least on this continent), asking them to subdelegate in-addr.arpa space (when many of them can't even set up that space correctly) is a losing proposition. Given that premise, there will be more exception cases (explicit declarations to replace "normal" delegations under the control of competent ISPs) than not. Evem if you take the tack that the 2.0.0.2.ip6.int zone will be automatically filled with cname or ns records that are then overridden with exception cases, a whole new zone transfer mechanism must be created for those few servers that will preside over the 2.0.0.2.ip6.int zone. If not, then the mechanism will consist of transfering 2^32 sets of NS or CNAME records, which would probably be over 99% garbage. > > If this is deemed a good idea, someone should write an I-D about it > and hack BIND or some other DNS server as a proof of concept. I think that's way too much effort. Much simpler to just manage the zone by hand. > > > Of course, someone would have to delegate the 2.0.0.2.ip6.int. level > > to me. > > It seems that this domain has been delegated already. Part of the reason I am speaking up is that I can find no way to enter delegations into that zone. If there is a way, then I would gladly shut up about it. I do believe the delegatees of that zone have some burden to say _something_ with regards to the procedure for putting NS records in the zone. Even if that something is "Be patient. We're working on a procedure right now." :-) > > > 2. I don't think this is quite as daunting a task as it may at first > > appear. It is likely in my mind that the number of 6to4 routers will > > be on the order of 1 per site and that they are likely to end up > > being phased out over time anyway. I further suspect that the number > > of such relays at the moment is low. Further, there is an obvious > > 1:1 relationship between 6to4 prefixes, 6to4 routers and > > 2.0.0.2.ip6.int zones. And if in the future the task becomes more > > daunting rather than less, the delegations can be broken up. > > One of the nice things about 6to4 is that it requires very little > administrative work to get connectivity (at least to other 6to4 > networks). If 6to4 inverse mappings could be piggybacked on IPv4 > inverse delegations, we could save people the work of contacting an > external entity for that. It would indeed be nice if it was automatic, as is the 6to4 prefix allocation. But there's no automatic way to decide which IPv4 addresses are 6to4 routers and which aren't. And the overwhelming majority of them won't be. From bmanning@ISI.EDU Sun Apr 30 22:18:00 2000 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: inverse mapping for 6to4 [Re: configuring our site for ip6.int...] In-Reply-To: <390C59E0.151F3306@quack.kfu.com> from "Nick Sayer" at Apr 30, 2000 09:05:52 AM Message-ID: <200004302118.OAA29656@zephyr.isi.edu> % > > Of course, someone would have to delegate the 2.0.0.2.ip6.int. level % > > to me. % > % > It seems that this domain has been delegated already. % % Part of the reason I am speaking up is that I can find no way to enter % delegations into that zone. If there is a way, then I would gladly % shut up about it. I do believe the delegatees of that zone have some % burden to say _something_ with regards to the procedure for putting % NS records in the zone. Even if that something is "Be patient. We're % working on a procedure right now." :-) Ok, so tell me what the proceedure ought to be. The prefix was delegated w/o explicit instructions on how the tree should be mapped. % It would indeed be nice if it was automatic, as is the 6to4 % prefix allocation. But there's no automatic way to decide which % IPv4 addresses are 6to4 routers and which aren't. And the overwhelming % majority of them won't be. Would one like a web page that lets this occur? -- --bill From loafer@scut.edu.cn Mon Apr 3 05:34:04 2000 From: loafer@scut.edu.cn (Loafer) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:34:04 +0800 Subject: database running on IPv6 Message-ID: <008201bf9d25$d77764a0$701270ca@loafer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BF9D68.E57A7270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGVsbG8hDQoNCklzIGF2YWxpYWJsZSBhbnkgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBEYXRhYmFzZSAoRnJlZUJTRCwg TGludXgpIHRoYXQgY2FuIHJ1biBvbiBJUHY2Pw0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdmVyeSBtdWNoIQ0KDQpM b2FmZXIobG9hZmVyQHNjdXQuZWR1LmNuKQ0K ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BF9D68.E57A7270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi MjMxMiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hUTUwgNS4w MC4yOTIwLjAiIG5hbWU9R0VORVJBVE9SPg0KPFNUWUxFPjwvU1RZTEU+DQo8L0hFQUQ+DQo8Qk9E WSBiZ0NvbG9yPSNmZmZmZmY+DQo8RElWPjxGT05UIHNpemU9Mj5IZWxsbyE8L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+ DQo8RElWPiZuYnNwOzwvRElWPg0KPERJVj48Rk9OVCBzaXplPTI+SXMgYXZhbGlhYmxlIGFueSB2 ZXJzaW9uIG9mIERhdGFiYXNlIChGcmVlQlNELCBMaW51eCkgdGhhdCBjYW4gDQpydW4gb24gSVB2 Nj88L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+DQo8RElWPiZuYnNwOzwvRElWPg0KPERJVj48Rk9OVCBzaXplPTI+VGhh bmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCE8L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+DQo8RElWPiZuYnNwOzwvRElWPg0KPERJVj48 Rk9OVCBzaXplPTI+TG9hZmVyKDxBIA0KaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmxvYWZlckBzY3V0LmVkdS5jbiI+ bG9hZmVyQHNjdXQuZWR1LmNuPC9BPik8L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+PC9CT0RZPjwvSFRNTD4NCg== ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BF9D68.E57A7270-- From loafer@scut.edu.cn Mon Apr 3 10:02:08 2000 From: loafer@scut.edu.cn (Loafer) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:02:08 +0800 Subject: Tunnel contact Message-ID: <00c001bf9d4b$4ac3d7c0$701270ca@loafer> Hello! Who can give me a list of tunnel-contact provider? I have setup the LAN enviroment on IPv6 but never connect to global 6bone