From yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw Fri Oct 1 01:44:51 1999 From: yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:44:51 +0800 Subject: (re)use of AS numbers in 6bone routing? References: <199909301816.SAA09892@orchard.arlington.ma.us> Message-ID: <37F40403.20AB41C1@ms.chttl.com.tw> Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > Is there any document which discusses the (re)use of exisiting ipv4 > autonomous system numbers in 6bone routing? I can't find any mention > of it in any of the "obvious" documents on the www.6bone.net site. > rfc2546 ("6bone routing practice") mentions use of BGP4+, but doesn't > mention autonomous system numbers at all.. > > I'm not a routing expert -- I'm attempting to be cautious / paranoid > here. > > What I'm really looking for is a statement of the form "the use of a > site's existing AS number to advertise its 6bone routes to the 6bone > BGP4+ mesh will not cause trouble in the existing production ipv4 > Internet, as long as you do _________" > > Thanks in advance for any input/assurance/cautions... > > - Bill I have one record about this and send to you. You can find it on 6bone mail list also. Hope this help: > My question is that since a transit site usually have only one backbone > site(as ISP) connected to 6Bone, should I apply for an ASN just for > becoming an transit site? I have checked the 6Bone mail archive about > the topic, but the old discussing seems to be about the ASN in > provider-based address, not the ASN in BGP4+. > Can anyone answer my question? Thanks a lot. You should be able to use private AS numbers to peer with your upstream (me) and any downstreams with whom you might also peer. Y. J. Chu ChungHwa Telecom. Co. From jabley@patho.gen.nz Fri Oct 1 05:12:23 1999 From: jabley@patho.gen.nz (Joe Abley) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:12:23 +1200 Subject: (re)use of AS numbers in 6bone routing? In-Reply-To: <199909301816.SAA09892@orchard.arlington.ma.us>; from Bill Sommerfeld on Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 02:16:29PM -0400 References: <199909301816.SAA09892@orchard.arlington.ma.us> Message-ID: <19991001161223.B25019@patho.gen.nz> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > What I'm really looking for is a statement of the form "the use of a > site's existing AS number to advertise its 6bone routes to the 6bone > BGP4+ mesh will not cause trouble in the existing production ipv4 > Internet That's right, as far as I know. >, as long as you do _________" I think that's right too, as long as you don't fill in the blanks with anything :) I believe that: + it is a requirement that ASNs used with BGP4+ to be globally unique (if used in a globally-unique context like the 6bone) + there is no requirement for IPv4 networks (constructed using BGP4) and overlaid/parallel IPv6 networks (constructed using BGP4+) to use different ASNs. + since the ASNs in use in the global Internet are already globally unique, they are good choices for use in a public IPv6 network, and this is what people have been doing in the 6bone. I don't recall seeing this explicitly stated anywhere though. And I might be completely mistaken in my assumptions :) Joe From Bernhard.Petri@icn.siemens.de Fri Oct 1 08:36:29 1999 From: Bernhard.Petri@icn.siemens.de (Petri Bernhard) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:36:29 +0200 Subject: IPv6 over ATM Message-ID: Hi Yann-Ju, there is no specification in the ATM Forum which is dedicated to IPv6, but I wouldn't expect any problems in applying the current LANE and MPOA specifications directly. The objective of LANE is to emulate an Ethernet/IEEE802.3 or IEEE 802.5 LAN, so it should work with all applications expecting to run over such a LAN. MPOA provides a mechanism applicable to multiple "internetwork layer" protocols. Within the definition of the term "internetwork layer" in MPOA, IPv6 is listed as one of the examples (among IPv4, IPX, etc.), and also the MIB lists IPv6 addresses as one of the applicable internetwork layer address types. Kind regards Bernhard > -----Original Message----- > From: Yann-Ju Chu [SMTP:yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:21 AM > To: 6Bone > Subject: IPv6 over ATM > > Hi: > There are RFC2491/2492 for IPv6 over ATM, which play the same role > with CLIP in IPv4. Does anybody know that if there is any specification > of ATM Forum for IPv6 over ATM, which may play the same role as LANE (or > MPOA)? > Or if the original LANE specification can apply diretly to IPv6? > Besides, does any routers support all the above funtions? > Y.J. Chu From yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw Sat Oct 2 03:43:10 1999 From: yjchui@ms.chttl.com.tw (Yann-Ju Chu) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:43:10 +0800 Subject: (re)use of AS numbers in 6bone routing? References: Message-ID: <37F5713E.B78A059D@ms.chttl.com.tw> Mario Lorenz wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, you wrote on the 6bone list: > > > You should be able to use private AS numbers to peer with your > > upstream (me) and any downstreams with whom you might also peer. > > Since I am looking into implementing BGP too, I got a fundamental question > on this approach: If someone uses private ASNs in the 6bone to do BGP, > what would happen if I inadvertedly choose to use the very same (private) > ASN ? To do full BGP, this means that the ASN is announced, and hence has > to be globally unique... > > The problem here is that I dont have my own IPv4 based ASN, and I also > wont want to use my providers ASN for BGP, since thats a major ISP, and if > someone makes a mistake and leaks IPv6 announcemnts into IPv4, whole > germany will be mad at me. > > Mario > > -- > Mario Lorenz Internet: s96412@fh-telekom-leipzig.de > AX25: DL5MLO@OK0PKL.#BOH.CZE.EU The following is another record from 6Bone mail list --------------------------------------- > My question is that since a transit site usually have only one backbone > site(as ISP) connected to 6Bone, should I apply for an ASN just for > becoming an transit site? I have checked the 6Bone mail archive about > the topic, but the old discussing seems to be about the ASN in > provider-based address, not the ASN in BGP4+. > Can anyone answer my question? Thanks a lot. You should be able to use private AS numbers to peer with your upstream (me) and any downstreams with whom you might also peer ----------------------------------------------- In my opinion, I guess it is only required that the ASNs among your upstream and downstream are unique. Because after the aggregation, when your upstreams change BGP4+ routing information, there are no your ASN in the information. But the above is only what I quess. Hope there is other opinion about this. Chu From bmanning@ISI.EDU Sat Oct 2 05:54:48 1999 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (re)use of AS numbers in 6bone routing? In-Reply-To: <37F5713E.B78A059D@ms.chttl.com.tw> from "Yann-Ju Chu" at Oct 2, 99 10:43:10 am Message-ID: <199910020454.VAA02688@zephyr.isi.edu> > > the topic, but the old discussing seems to be about the ASN in > > provider-based address, not the ASN in BGP4+. > > Can anyone answer my question? Thanks a lot. > > You should be able to use private AS numbers to peer with your > upstream (me) and any downstreams with whom you might also peer > ----------------------------------------------- > > > In my opinion, I guess it is only required that the ASNs among your upstream and downstream > are unique. Because after the aggregation, when your upstreams change BGP4+ routing information, > there are no your ASN in the information. > > But the above is only what I quess. Hope there is other opinion about this. > Chu > You may use private ASNs. However ASN re-use applies to BGP (and all its varients). IP versions are irrelevent here. BGP will detect duplicates in the path. Most operators treat this as a routing loop and will suppress the route. RTFM on BGP folks. ASNs show up in some tools...: Note that the ASN is shown and changes between administrative boundaries. ASN 1740 only appears in a single set. If it was to show up either before AS 226 or after AS 701, then there is a loop. Tracing the route to ns.ripe.net (193.0.0.193) 1 triton.cerf.net (198.32.146.20) [AS 226] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 atm11-0.lax-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.29.17) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 3 pos8-0-155M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.32.230) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec 4 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 5 pos4-0-0-155M.sjc-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec 6 atm8-0-155M.sjc-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.29.37) [AS 1740] 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec 7 San-Jose1.CA.US.EU.net (198.32.136.28) [AS 701] 80 msec 76 msec 76 msec 8 Sfr-nr01.CA.US.EU.net (134.222.228.18) [AS 286] 156 msec 76 msec 76 msec 9 Nyk-nr01.NY.US.EU.net (134.222.228.177) [AS 286] 76 msec 76 msec 80 msec 10 Ldn-nr04.UK.EU.net (134.222.228.157) [AS 286] 144 msec 144 msec 144 msec 11 Ldn-nr03.UK.EU.net (134.222.160.3) [AS 286] 144 msec 144 msec 144 msec 12 Asd-nr02.NL.EU.net (134.222.228.129) [AS 286] 340 msec 260 msec 148 msec 13 s01.overtoom.ripe.net (134.222.249.82) [AS 286] 256 msec 292 msec 224 msec 14 s10.pampus.ripe.net (193.0.0.54) [AS 3333] 180 msec 172 msec 172 msec 15 ns.ripe.net (193.0.0.193) [AS 3333] 172 msec 172 msec 172 msec -- --bill From carl@bl.echidna.id.au Tue Oct 5 23:13:22 1999 From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au (Carl Brewer) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:13:22 +1000 (EST) Subject: Australian IPv6 list created Message-ID: <199910052213.IAA23020@oversteer.bl.echidna.id.au> Sorry for the spray, but some of you may be interested, and it is on-topic :) I've has created a mailing list for IPv6-AU, it's a majordomo list, so most of you will know how to drive it. Here's the initial scope I've given it : (AU for those who don't know is Australia) ------ The IPv6-AU list is for the discussion of IPv6 issues, including implementations, configuration, promotion and technical discussions, with an emphasis on Australian content and Australian implementations. In this manner it is similar in charter to MBONE-AU. It is expected that this will be a high signal:noise list, with any question answers kept private, unless obviously of list interest, and summaries posted where appropriate. Please respect that the list members are busy people, and overuse of this list will see it unsubscribed to by those who could best help you. The list is archived and digests created by majordomo, the archive location is not yet determined, once it has been established its location will be placed in this introduction and a message posted informing list members of its location. Once IPv6 is established in Australia it is expected that this list will either go away or change focus, but initially it is intended to foster ISP and corporate IPv6 deployment. Commercial advertising (spam) is strictly forbidden, references to services provided by vendors by vendors and/or their representatives is acceptable within reason. Please don't abuse this list. Please post in plain text only, no word processor documents, HTML, rich text etc, and please post in English. This list is not moderated, but only list members may post to it. Thankyou, Carl send : subscribe ipv6-au to ipv6-au-request@e-Secure.com.au To subscribe. ------- As far as I know, there's no other list of this type in Oz, please let me know if it's redundant. Please also pass this on to anyone you think may be interested. Thanks Carl From slp@info.sh.cn Thu Oct 7 09:55:44 1999 From: slp@info.sh.cn (slp@info.sh.cn) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:55:44 +0800 Subject: how to support shared library? Message-ID: <37FC6010.501F436@info.sh.cn> Hi,all, my linux system with the kernel linux-2.2.10 and glibc-2.0.7 doesn't support shared library, and I want to try out BIS(Bump-in-the-Stack), who can tell me that how I can update my system to support the shared library? Any help will be greatly appreciated,thanks in advance! Lisa From nitehawk@1ststep.net Fri Oct 8 14:34:18 1999 From: nitehawk@1ststep.net (Matthew Schlegel) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:34:18 -0700 Subject: Multihoming IP6 Message-ID: <19991008063418.A27121@1ststep.net> --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While I'm not quite at the point where I can do anything meaningful with multihoming IP6 yet, I am planning to be prepared to do so in the near futu= re. Anyone else done any multihoming work (Leaf or NLA, not TLA)? Is there Provider Independant space anywhere for this sort of usage? If not (the ca= se AFAIK), what would the recommended way of routing for load balancing and redundancy. Because of aggregation, I'm not sure how a provider assigned block would be routable via two separate connections (different provider on each connection is the idea). Ideas? --=20 Matthew Schlegel Get Paid to surf the web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=3Ddsc304 Encryption Keys: Type KeyID Created Fingerprint PGP DSS 0x30AFD26D 1998-08-20 FC89 1E36 353E BDAA FF81 DD30 A7B0 3942 3= 0AF D26D PGP RSA 0x3B80FDDF 1998-09-15 2110 E419 93DD 27DD 3229 168F D091 B9F2 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: xAUy7a3WUaJ8XElStHVZMFdyeGGxO8cw iQA/AwUBN/3y2KewOUIwr9JtEQLcWQCfUy2SFj0pjm3WFjQ1iMwhYRqpOpMAni9W KrgmR1FNSsgolGsGKexRzhJQ =U5Q6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From chenxz@ict.ac.cn Sun Oct 10 11:17:38 1999 From: chenxz@ict.ac.cn (Chen xiuzhong) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:17:38 +0800 Subject: ipv6 tunnel Message-ID: <001b01bf1308$aef32660$5a27e29f@L3.ict.ac.cn> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF134B.BC023740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I want to setup a IPv6 site.Now,I have finished upgrading Redhat 6.0 = to support IPv6 on=20 two workstations and they could connect in LAN.But,I donot know how to = setup a tunnel which connect to IPv6 backbone.Who can tell me the next = step? 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*********************************************** ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF134B.BC023740-- From Fernando Mendonça" Message-ID: <00e001bf137b$c2100c40$b639f4c8@fernando> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01BF1362.9BA70400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Por favor, me tirem dessa lista. Muito obrigado Please, get out of this list. Thank you very much ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01BF1362.9BA70400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01BF1362.9BA70400-- From Smirk35@aol.com Mon Oct 11 03:03:59 1999 From: Smirk35@aol.com (Smirk35@aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:03:59 EDT Subject: ipv6 tunnel Message-ID: <0.61709b8a.25329f8f@aol.com> Fernando, I have been on this list for 3 1/2 years and have seen some jerks, but you take the cake. I believe that you have no authority over this list and have no right to tell anyone what to do. When this list was first started, it use to be a community of thought and service for the whole world to help and think with outreaching abilities. Let me know "everyone" if this list has changed from that, so that I can leave this list and leave you and Fernando to insults. I would request that Fernando keep his comments to himself. Mark In a message dated 10/10/1999 7:19:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nandom@ruralrj.com.br writes: << ----- Por favor, me tirem dessa lista. Muito obrigado Please, get out of this list. Thank you very much -------------------- >> From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 11 05:36:47 1999 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:36:47 -0400 Subject: ipv6 tunnel Message-ID: <01BF1380.BFBC6600.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF1380.BFDDF7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from Gregg C Levine usually at Jedi Knight Computers I have been here for only 18 months, at best, and I find that your opininion is correct. That bantha brained joker, has no authority whatsoever regarding such things. In fact, our correspondent in China asked a logical question, which I myself asked three days into the list. Granted, he thinks he is right, but so? So did Trade Federation, and Galactic Empire, and look what happened to them. Anyway, I suggest that you do not leave this list, and instead, invite Fernando to depart the list, instead. Besides, the list 'droid, attended by his humans, will be suggesting that in a matter of days, (hint, hint!). My problems of course, are with my ISP, not the content of this discussion, and if we want to exchange barbs, and blaster bolts, and of course, bowcaster shots, we can take this discussion off line. The big problem is that not many mailers are equipped to properly translate and display foreign languages, so we really haven't a snowball's chance on Tatooine on that account. I would be interested in finding out your thoughts on this, in private, and off list. By the way, to properly work with ipv6, it requires a static set of address, which is why I included that complaint. Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "They were in the wrong place, at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes." Princess Leia Organna of Alderann, Senator "Remember, the Force will be with you." Obi-Wan(Ben) Kenobi, Jedi Knight and, General, (Retired) On Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:04 PM, Smirk35@aol.com [SMTP:Smirk35@aol.com] wrote: > Fernando, I have been on this list for 3 1/2 years and have seen some jerks, > but you take the cake. > I believe that you have no authority over this list and have no right to tell > anyone what to do. > > When this list was first started, it use to be a community of thought and > service for the whole world to help and think with outreaching abilities. > > Let me know "everyone" if this list has changed from that, so that I can > leave this list and leave you and Fernando to insults. > > I would request that Fernando keep his comments to himself. > > Mark > > > In a message dated 10/10/1999 7:19:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nandom@ruralrj.com.br writes: > > << > ----- > Por favor, me tirem dessa lista. > > Muito obrigado > > Please, get out of this list. > > Thank you very much > > -------------------- >> ------ 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Not being an expert, could it be that Fernando's portugese translates to "Please, get ME out of this list?", which he omitted by way of a typo in his own translation? Regards, Thomas --- Fernando Mendonça wrote: > > ----- > Por favor, me tirem dessa lista. > > Muito obrigado > > Please, get out of this list. > > Thank you very much > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From petbe736@student.liu.se Mon Oct 11 10:39:02 1999 From: petbe736@student.liu.se (Petter Bengtsson) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:39:02 +0000 Subject: What do we need to set up a IPv6 computer Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991011093150.00a2a100@student.liu.se> Hello everyone, My name is Petter Bengtsson and I'm a student at University och Linköping Campus Norrköping. And we are thinking about installing an IPv6 computer and I wonder what I need exactly, like software router etc Best Regards Petter Bengtsson petbe736@student.liu.se From woeber@cc.univie.ac.at Mon Oct 11 12:23:37 1999 From: woeber@cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:23:37 MET-DST Subject: ipv6 tunnel Message-ID: <009DF763.86D200B2.16@cc.univie.ac.at> >Hi Folks! > >Not being an expert, could it be that Fernando's >portugese translates to "Please, get ME out of this >list?", indeed :-) >which he omitted by way of a typo in his own >translation? > > Regards, > > Thomas > >--- Fernando Mendonça wrote: >> >> ----- >> Por favor, me tirem dessa lista. >> >> Muito obrigado >> >> Please, get out of this list. >> >> Thank you very much >> >===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Vienna University : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : RIPE-DB (&NIC) Handle: WW144 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : PGP public key ID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Common sense requires a common language... __________________________________________________________________________ From alain.baudot@cnet.francetelecom.fr Mon Oct 11 10:43:57 1999 From: alain.baudot@cnet.francetelecom.fr (BAUDOT Alain CNET/DSE/CAE) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:43:57 +0200 Subject: routing problem ? Message-ID: <00DC997FEFAFD21192D800A024D43F4D08571E@c-mhs.caen.cnet.fr> It looks like a routing problem when I try to access a part of the 6bone. Traceroute to www.ipv6.nas.nasa.gov [3ffe:c00:8001::1] ends by that : 5 * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 reports: No route to destination. Traceroute to www.ipv6.euronet.be [3ffe:2501:200:2::1] ends this way : 13 262 ms * 260 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 214 ms 244 ms 279 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 225 ms 277 ms * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 287 ms * 458 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 243 ms 234 ms 247 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 262 ms 279 ms * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 ^C Can anyone solve that ? Thanx a lot. Alain Baudot ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Alain BAUDOT France Telecom CNET/Caen DSE/SPI e-mail :alain.baudot@cnet.francetelecom.fr 42 rue des coutures BP 6243 Phone : +33 2 31 75 94 27 14066 CAEN CEDEX Fax : +33 2 31 73 56 26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- From chris@innotts.net Mon Oct 11 11:10:46 1999 From: chris@innotts.net (Chris Cain) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:10:46 +0100 Subject: ipv6 tunnel In-Reply-To: <19991011063623.25874.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Thomas Kuehne >Hi Folks! > >Not being an expert, could it be that Fernando's >portugese translates to "Please, get ME out of this >list?", which he omitted by way of a typo in his own >translation? Probably !, knowing nothing at all about portugese but babelfish.altavista.com translates it to 'Please, they take off me of this stack. Very obliged' Chris Cain From ksbn@kt.co.kr Mon Oct 11 11:21:29 1999 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:21:29 +0900 Subject: video conference tools in IPv6 Message-ID: <3801BA29.B060A87E@kt.co.kr> If you hope to test the video conference on IPv6, see following URLs. http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/rat/experimental/ http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/vic/ Will you send me the test results? Thanks. -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From ksbn@kt.co.kr Mon Oct 11 11:39:46 1999 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:39:46 +0900 Subject: What do we need to set up a IPv6 computer References: <4.2.0.58.19991011093150.00a2a100@student.liu.se> Message-ID: <3801BE72.7533BC5D@kt.co.kr> Will you install FreeBSD O/S, KAME IPv6 stack in your PC? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ http://www.freenet6.net/ It's a easy way to enter IPv6 world. Thanks. Petter Bengtsson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My name is Petter Bengtsson and I'm a student at University och Linköping > Campus Norrköping. And we are thinking about installing an IPv6 computer > and I wonder what I need exactly, like software router etc > > Best Regards > Petter Bengtsson > petbe736@student.liu.se -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From ot@cisco.com Mon Oct 11 11:47:25 1999 From: ot@cisco.com (Ole Troan) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:47:25 +0100 Subject: routing problem ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:43:57 +0200." <00DC997FEFAFD21192D800A024D43F4D08571E@c-mhs.caen.cnet.fr> Message-ID: <199910111047.LAA01543@jaws.cisco.com> it should work now. it was a tunnel configuration problem, seems that NASA had changed their IPv4 tunnel endpoint address. cheers, Ole > It looks like a routing problem when I try to access a part of the 6bone. > Traceroute to www.ipv6.nas.nasa.gov [3ffe:c00:8001::1] ends by that : > 5 * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 reports: No route to > destination. > Traceroute to www.ipv6.euronet.be [3ffe:2501:200:2::1] ends this way : > 13 262 ms * 260 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > 14 * * * Request timed out. > 15 214 ms 244 ms 279 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > 16 * * * Request timed out. > 17 225 ms 277 ms * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > 18 * * * Request timed out. > 19 287 ms * 458 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > 20 * * * Request timed out. > 21 243 ms 234 ms 247 ms 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > 22 * * * Request timed out. > 23 262 ms 279 ms * 3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93 > ^C > Can anyone solve that ? > Thanx a lot. > Alain Baudot > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------- > Alain BAUDOT > France Telecom > CNET/Caen DSE/SPI e-mail :alain.baudot@cnet.francetelecom.fr > 42 rue des coutures > BP 6243 Phone : +33 2 31 75 94 27 > 14066 CAEN CEDEX Fax : +33 2 31 73 56 26 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------- > From Raphael Lee" Message-ID: <001001bf13d7$d4dfdb00$44836bd2@icu.ac.kr> I did it on Kame & FreeBSD 3.1. UCLA's 'vic' and 'vat' (fixed by KAME) are possible on IPv6 but it has a few error. You have to fix source code or compiling method. And, 'rat' is not working on IPv6, yet. See you -------------------------------------------------------- Raphael Lee Network Architecture Lab. Information & Communications Univ. in Korea. Tel. 82-42-866-6187 PCS. 82-16-567-4545 E-Mail. raphael@icu.ac.kr Homepage. http://vega.icu.ac.kr/~raphael > If you hope to test the video conference on IPv6, > see following URLs. > > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/rat/experimental/ > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/vic/ > > Will you send me the test results? > > Thanks. > > -- > Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom > TEL : +82-42-870-8322 > FAX : +82-42-870-8329 > E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr > -- > > From cross@eng.us.uu.net Mon Oct 11 13:14:23 1999 From: cross@eng.us.uu.net (Chris P. Ross) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: What do we need to set up a IPv6 computer In-Reply-To: Petter Bengtsson's message of Mon, 11 October 1999 09:39:02 +0000 <4.2.0.58.19991011093150.00a2a100@student.liu.se> References: <4.2.0.58.19991011093150.00a2a100@student.liu.se> Message-ID: <14337.54431.372214.135595@ballista.eng.us.uu.net> Petter Bengtsson said: > Hello everyone, > My name is Petter Bengtsson and I'm a student at University och Linköping > Campus Norrköping. And we are thinking about installing an IPv6 computer > and I wonder what I need exactly, like software router etc To not give a long-winded answer, I'll simply suggest you look at http://www.6bone.net/ There is a bunch of good information there (even if occasionally somewhat dated), and it should certainly be able to answer this current question. - Chris -- Chris P. Ross UUNET Technologies, Inc. cross@eng.us.uu.net R & D / Engineering cross@uu.net From amunoz@scanda.com.mx Mon Oct 11 16:12:32 1999 From: amunoz@scanda.com.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mu=F1oz_Astudillo_Antonio?=) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:12:32 -0500 Subject: ipv6 tunnel Message-ID: Hi! That´s right The tranlation is "Please get ME out of this list" I think Fernando has no intention to insult.... Antonio Muñoz -----Original Message----- From: Chris Cain [mailto:chris@innotts.net] Sent: Lunes, 11 de Octubre de 1999 04:11 a.m. To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: RE: ipv6 tunnel From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Thomas Kuehne >Hi Folks! > >Not being an expert, could it be that Fernando's >portugese translates to "Please, get ME out of this >list?", which he omitted by way of a typo in his own >translation? Probably !, knowing nothing at all about portugese but babelfish.altavista.com translates it to 'Please, they take off me of this stack. Very obliged' Chris Cain From richdr@microsoft.com Mon Oct 11 18:42:44 1999 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:42:44 -0700 Subject: 10/10/99 6Bone Routing Report Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D81014515B9F@RED-MSG-50> For several days, the bogus 0::/0, 1000::/3, and 1800::/4 routes were not showing up. And suddenly they are back. And in fact there are a bunch of new bogus routes. What has changed? Has some router come back on line? (I believe these routes do not originate with the putative origin-AS. I believe some buggy router elsewhere is injecting them.) Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu > [mailto:owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu] > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:05 AM > To: 6bone-routing-report@merit.edu > Subject: 10/10/99 6Bone Routing Report > > > See http://www.merit.edu/ipma for a more detailed report on routing > problems and recommendations on ways service providers can limit the > spread of invalid routing information. > Send comments and questions to ipma-support@merit.edu > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > 6bone-routing-report-request@merit.edu. > A hypermail archive is available at > http://www.merit.net/mail.archives/html/6bone-routing-report/ > > Also see http://www.caida.org for more information about Internet > statistics collection research efforts. > > --------------------------------------------- > This report is for 10/10/99, peering with > VIAGENIE (AS10566) CISCO (AS109) IDIR (AS11264) CICNET > (AS1225) WIDE (AS2500) SICS (AS2839) TELEBIT (AS3263) > ETRI (AS3559) CERNET (AS4538) 6COM (AS561) MSR-REDMOND > (AS5761) UUNET-US (AS704) CAIRN (AS7081) NUS-IRDU (AS7610) > --------------------------------------------- > > Size of 6Bone Routing Table: > Max = 225, Min = 38, Average = 223 > 81 Unique Autonomous System (AS) numbers > > BGP4+ Traffic Summary: > Announcements = 129652 Withdraws = 63154 Unique > Routes = 135 > > Non-6Bone Prefixes (outside of 3ffe::/16): > Format: Prefix path AS-Path (Origin-AS -- Availability) > -------------------------------- > 0000::/0 path 1225 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) > 0000::/0 path 1225 33 10318 6175 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 1%) > 0000::/3 path 7610 3462 3263 237 1225 33 10318 6175 5761 > (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 1000::/3 path 1225 33 10318 6175 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 1%) > 1000::/4 path 561 10566 237 1225 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) > 1800::/4 path 1225 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) > 2001:200::/35 path 7610 3425 2500 (WIDE -- 100%) > 2001:400::/35 path 7610 3425 293 (ESNET -- 100%) > 2001:600::/35 path 1225 1849 (UUNET-UK -- 100%) > 2001:608::/35 path 1225 4556 5539 (SPACENET-DE -- 100%) > 2001:610::/35 path 1225 1103 (SURFNET -- 100%) > 2001:618::/35 path 10566 5408 1752 (BT-LABS -- 100%) > 2001:620::/35 path 1225 2547 559 (SWITCH -- 100%) > 2002::/16 path 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 100%) > 50b0:b0d:b0d:b0d:b0d:a00::/87 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 2%) > 5b8e:8461:524:f4ef:4321:cd60::/96 path 1225 109 33 10318 > 6175 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 2%) > 5f06:8900::/32 path 109 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) > 5f0c:bf00::/32 path 7610 3462 3263 (TELEBIT -- 9%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:1398::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:1aec::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:1e10::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:3e4::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:814::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:920::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:a2c::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:c0::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4:6106:e5c::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 > 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > 8e84:6105:24f4::/91 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 5761 > (MSR-REDMOND -- 0%) > ::35e0/120 path 7610 3462 3263 (TELEBIT -- 9%) > a3c7:8800::/21 path 1225 109 33 10318 6175 5761 (MSR-REDMOND -- 2%) > > Poorly Aggregated Prefixes (>24 in 3ffe:0000::/17 or >28 in > 3ffe:8000::/17): > Format: Prefix path AS-Path (Origin-AS -- Availability) > -------------------------------- > FIBERTEL (3ffe:3800::/24) had 9 route(s) > 3ffe:38e0:ffff::/126 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 > 1251 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:3800::3:0000/112 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 > 1251 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:3800:fffc::/64 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 1251 > 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:38e0:1::/64 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 1251 > 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:3800:fffb::/48 path 109 1251 4270 (UTN-FRLP -- 99%) > 3ffe:3800:fffc::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 6389 109 > 1251 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:3800:3ffb::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 1251 > 4270 (UTN-FRLP -- 99%) > 3ffe:38e0:8000::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 7610 237 > 10566 1930 1251 4270 11008 11008 11008 11008 10605 ( -- 5%) > 3ffe:38e0::/32 path 109 1251 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > > STUBA (3ffe:2200::/24) had 7 route(s) > 3ffe:2280:4:2::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2200:0:8007::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2280:4:3::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2280:4:5::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2280:4:6::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2280:4:601::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > 3ffe:2280:4:602::/64 path 109 3462 3263 2852 (CESNET -- 100%) > > SPRINT (3ffe:2900::/24) had 4 route(s) > 3ffe:29a1::/64 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 1251 4270 > 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:2900:c::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 48 > 11261 (ASCI -- 100%) > 3ffe:29a1:c::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 786 1849 109 1251 > 4270 11008 (CENTAURI-AR -- 99%) > 3ffe:2900:5::/48 path 1225 1312 (LORE/VT -- 100%) > > CICNET (3ffe:900::/24) had 4 route(s) > 3ffe:900:1::/48 path 1225 1312 (LORE/VT -- 100%) > 3ffe:900:2::/48 path 1225 3899 (CHICO -- 100%) > 3ffe:902:2::/48 path 1225 1849 786 5623 1887 (SZCZECIN -- 100%) > 3ffe:902::/32 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 5539 4556 1225 > 8664 (ICM-PL -- 100%) > > SWITCH (3ffe:2000::/24) had 3 route(s) > 3ffe:202a:1::/64 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 2547 > 559 1836 (SIMULTAN -- 100%) > 3ffe:2024:1::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 1103 > 559 1205 (TK-LINZ/JKU-LINZ -- 100%) > 3ffe:202a:1::/48 path 1225 2547 559 1836 (SIMULTAN -- 100%) > > SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 3 route(s) > 3ffe:2610:2::/48 path 2839 3274 8432 (TF-INET-DEV -- 95%) > 3ffe:2610:5::/48 path 2839 3274 5469 (AHLSTROM -- 94%) > 3ffe:2620::/32 path 2839 1741 (FUNET/OTOL/VTTMPOLI -- 77%) > > UUNET-UK (3ffe:1100::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:1108:40a::/48 path 1225 4556 5539 (SPACENET-DE -- 100%) > 3ffe:1108:1400::/40 path 704 (UUNET-US -- 100%) > > AMS-IX (3ffe:3000::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:3001:2::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 3251 1930 > 1251 109 1225 2547 559 1103 5623 (ATT-LABS-EUROPE -- 100%) > 3ffe:3001:3::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 2547 > 559 1103 8251 (CISTRON -- 100%) > > GRNET (3ffe:2d00::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:2d00:2::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 48 > 1752 5408 3323 (NTUA -- 100%) > 3ffe:2d00:b::/48 path 10566 5408 8617 (AEGEAN -- 99%) > > JANET (3ffe:2100::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:2100:1:17::/64 path 1225 1275 (JOIN -- 99%) > 3ffe:2101::/48 path 10566 5408 1752 3185 (ULANC -- 100%) > > VBNS (3ffe:2800::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2802::/32 path 1225 1312 (LORE/VT -- 100%) > > UNI-C (3ffe:1400::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:1402:1:1::/64 path 1225 4556 5539 1273 (ECRC -- 100%) > > NRL (3ffe:f00::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:f00:2::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 5539 4556 > 1225 5609 48 11261 (ASCI -- 100%) > > SURFNET (3ffe:600::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:604:5::/48 path 2839 1835 1717 786 1849 1225 2547 > 559 1103 8251 (CISTRON -- 100%) > > JOIN (3ffe:400::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:400:1c0::/48 path 2839 3274 8319 (REGIO-DE -- 96%) > > INR (3ffe:2400::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2401::/32 path 109 2895 2118 (STC-IPNG -- 99%) > > IPF (3ffe:3400::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:3400:300::/48 path 10566 5408 1752 3185 786 1849 109 > 5409 5424 ( -- 100%) > > RCCN (3ffe:3100::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:3102::/48 path 10566 1930 3243 ( -- 100%) > > Prefixes from Different Origin AS: > Format: Prefix path AS-Path (Origin-AS -- Availability) > -------------------------------- > VIAGENIE (3ffe:b00::/24) path 10566 (VIAGENIE -- 100%) > VIAGENIE (3ffe:b00::/24) path 7081 145 6509 ( -- 99%) > > The Top Five Most Active Prefixes: > Format: AS-Path (Announce/Withdraw -- Availability) > ---------------------------------- > 1. ANSNET (3ffe:d00::/24) had 57403 BGP+ updates (517 unique aspaths) > 7610 3425 293 5609 1673 (1924/693 -- 59%) > 1225 1849 145 293 1673 (664/135 -- 34%) > 7610 1849 145 293 1673 (649/180 -- 34%) > 1225 1849 7610 3425 293 5609 1673 (1054/234 -- 28%) > 10566 10318 145 293 1673 (895/130 -- 27%) > 7081 293 1673 (899/355 -- 23%) > 2839 3274 5539 4556 109 1673 (450/274 -- 17%) > 10566 6509 293 1673 (2323/239 -- 16%) > 10566 6509 293 109 1673 (4331/523 -- 15%) > 7081 145 3425 293 5609 1673 (446/156 -- 13%) > 10566 10318 145 3425 293 5609 1673 (1825/545 -- 13%) > ...Truncated... > > 2. UIO (3ffe:2a00::/24) had 9599 BGP+ updates (35 unique aspaths) > 2839 224 (487/0 -- 100%) > 7081 6175 3274 2839 224 (949/131 -- 98%) > 1225 1275 1835 2839 224 (485/490 -- 25%) > 10566 6175 3274 2839 224 (1415/522 -- 24%) > 5761 6175 3274 2839 224 (452/450 -- 22%) > 561 5609 5623 2839 224 (384/370 -- 20%) > 109 3462 3263 2839 224 (390/406 -- 17%) > 7610 1849 1225 237 2839 224 (442/383 -- 15%) > 2500 2500 2500 33 3462 3263 2839 224 (288/295 -- 7%) > 7610 1849 6175 3274 2839 224 (95/72 -- 6%) > 5761 6175 1225 237 2839 224 (65/65 -- 2%) > ...Truncated... > > 3. SICS (3ffe:200::/24) had 8089 BGP+ updates (29 unique aspaths) > 2839 (487/0 -- 100%) > 7081 6175 3274 2839 (733/9 -- 98%) > 1225 1275 1835 2839 (482/482 -- 20%) > 10566 6175 3274 2839 (1034/501 -- 20%) > 5761 6175 3274 2839 (450/448 -- 19%) > 561 5609 5623 2839 (317/317 -- 16%) > 109 3462 3263 2839 (388/390 -- 13%) > 7610 1849 1225 237 2839 (438/377 -- 12%) > 5761 6175 1225 237 2839 (55/55 -- 1%) > 7081 293 1275 1835 2839 (47/3 -- 1%) > 7610 3462 3263 2839 (56/48 -- 1%) > ...Truncated... > > 4. FUNET (3ffe:2620::/32) had 6844 BGP+ updates (40 unique aspaths) > 2839 1741 (453/148 -- 77%) > 1225 1275 1835 2839 1741 (384/348 -- 28%) > 109 3462 3263 2839 1741 (333/298 -- 19%) > 2839 3274 1741 (457/61 -- 18%) > 7610 1849 1225 1275 1835 2839 1741 (409/368 -- 15%) > 7610 1849 1225 4556 5539 3274 1741 (56/49 -- 6%) > 1225 4556 5539 3274 1741 (89/63 -- 5%) > 109 4556 5539 3274 1741 (86/43 -- 5%) > 561 5609 5623 2839 3274 1741 (271/210 -- 5%) > 2839 1835 1273 5539 3274 1741 (243/2 -- 3%) > 7610 1849 1225 237 2839 1741 (91/74 -- 3%) > ...Truncated... > > 5. SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 4139 BGP+ updates (12 unique aspaths) > 10566 6175 3274 (1283/3 -- 100%) > 5761 6175 3274 (0/0 -- 100%) > 7610 1849 6175 3274 (0/0 -- 100%) > 1225 6175 3274 (0/0 -- 100%) > 109 6175 3274 (0/0 -- 100%) > 7081 6175 3274 (639/22 -- 99%) > 2839 3274 (669/196 -- 94%) > 561 5609 1225 6175 3274 (3/2 -- 77%) > 2839 1835 1273 5539 3274 (220/1 -- 4%) > 2500 2500 2500 33 10318 6175 3274 (220/220 -- 2%) > 2839 5623 5609 1225 6175 3274 (37/7 -- 0%) > ...Truncated... > > From crawdad@fnal.gov Mon Oct 11 19:30:22 1999 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:30:22 -0500 Subject: 10/10/99 6Bone Routing Report In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:42:44 PDT. <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D81014515B9F@RED-MSG-50> Message-ID: <199910111830.NAA04995@gungnir.fnal.gov> > 1000::/4 path 561 10566 237 1225 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) > 1800::/4 path 1225 1673 (ANSNET -- 0%) 1800::/4 ??? There has to be a software bug somewhere, since this not only overlaps 1000::/4, it's identical with it! "visualize a valid message-id" Matt From Justin.Clift@corpmail.telstra.com.au Tue Oct 12 01:55:28 1999 From: Justin.Clift@corpmail.telstra.com.au (Clift, Justin [IBM GSA]) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:55:28 +1000 Subject: Is anyone with the Solaris 8 Beta able to comment on its ipv6 imp lementation? Message-ID: Hi all, Is anyone with the Solaris 8 Beta able to comment on its ipv6 implementation? :-) Justin Clift From joeel1@yahoo.com Tue Oct 12 03:47:12 1999 From: joeel1@yahoo.com (Ariffin Ahmad) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: compatibility issues of ipv4 applications on ipv6 Message-ID: <19991012024712.21263.rocketmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com> i'm student of university of Putra Malaysia. doing compatibility issues of ipv4 applications onipv6 as my final year project. need to knowabout how to test the compatibility in the real ipv6 environment. and how to translate it, practically. how to program, etc... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From chris.luck@juno.com Fri Oct 15 16:41:47 1999 From: chris.luck@juno.com (Chris B Luck) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:41:47 -0400 Subject: Local LAN IP Message-ID: <19991015.114149.-205925.0.Chris.Luck@juno.com> I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From mra@pobox.com Fri Oct 15 19:14:03 1999 From: mra@pobox.com (Mark Atwood) Date: 15 Oct 1999 11:14:03 -0700 Subject: Local LAN IP In-Reply-To: Chris B Luck's message of "Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:41:47 -0400" References: <19991015.114149.-205925.0.Chris.Luck@juno.com> Message-ID: Chris B Luck writes: > I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what > would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x > is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? If your IPv6 stacks are correct, it should "just work" if you do nothing. The interfaces will be assigned their stateless autoconfigured link local addresses, and then your hosts can talk to each other, but none of the traffic will leave the local LAN. -- Mark Atwood | mra@pobox.com | http://www.pobox.com/~mra | From Francis.Dupont@inria.fr Fri Oct 15 20:07:32 1999 From: Francis.Dupont@inria.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:07:32 +0200 Subject: Local LAN IP In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:41:47 EDT. <19991015.114149.-205925.0.Chris.Luck@juno.com> Message-ID: <199910151907.VAA03007@givry.inria.fr> In your previous mail you wrote: I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? => you can use link-local or site-local addresses. Link-local addresses (which are mandatory) are exactly you want but site-local addresses have a larger scope (:-): they are routable in your site (ie. you can have more than one LAN) but not on the Internet, you should need them for the next step. Francis.Dupont@inria.fr PS: read RFC 2373 section 2.5.8 From pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net Fri Oct 15 20:52:13 1999 From: pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net (Jeff Mason) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello: I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from the start. Regards Jeff Mason -- Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 From robert@digi-data.com Fri Oct 15 21:40:01 1999 From: robert@digi-data.com (Robert Honore) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:40:01 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. References: Message-ID: <99Oct15.163417gmt-0400.15235@odin.digi-data.com> Dear Jeff, I think that is an excellent idea. As to what we can put into the FAQ, I would suggest we start with the existing 6Bone faq and then add to it when we find that we can distill out an item as a "Best-Practice" item or a very helpful item. Yours sincerely, Robert Honore. Jeff Mason wrote: > > Hello: > > I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the > list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them > with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be > a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from > the start. > > Regards > Jeff Mason > > -- > Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net > Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 From greg@coastlink.com Sat Oct 16 00:06:44 1999 From: greg@coastlink.com (Greg Long) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:06:44 -0600 Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001bf1761$f3a2e9f0$87d4e0cf@GLONGCOMP> I think it would be a good idea. I am not knowledgeable enough to answer any of the questions yet, but it seems most of the questions are available on the website. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-6bone@ISI.EDU]On Behalf Of Jeff Mason Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 1:52 PM To: 6bone@ISI.EDU Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. Hello: I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from the start. Regards Jeff Mason -- Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 From carl@bl.echidna.id.au Sat Oct 16 00:09:38 1999 From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au (Carl Brewer) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:09:38 +1000 (EST) Subject: Local LAN IP Message-ID: <199910152309.JAA08420@oversteer.bl.echidna.id.au> > From: Francis Dupont > To: Chris B Luck > cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: Local LAN IP > > In your previous mail you wrote: > > I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what > would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x > is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? > > => you can use link-local or site-local addresses. Link-local addresses > (which are mandatory) are exactly you want but site-local addresses have > a larger scope (:-): they are routable in your site (ie. you can have > more than one LAN) but not on the Internet, you should need them for > the next step. > > Francis.Dupont@inria.fr > > PS: read RFC 2373 section 2.5.8 RFC 2373 is obsolete, RFC 2374 replaces it. cheers Carl From theo@tepucom.nl Sat Oct 16 00:11:53 1999 From: theo@tepucom.nl (Theo Purmer (Tepucom)) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:11:53 +0200 Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. Message-ID: <01BF1773.6EA3CE10.theo@tepucom.nl> I think it is a good idea cheers theo purmer ---------- Van: Jeff Mason[SMTP:pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net] Antwoord naar: pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net Verzonden: vrijdag 15 oktober 1999 21:52 Aan: 6bone@ISI.EDU Onderwerp: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. Hello: I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from the start. Regards Jeff Mason -- Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 From bmanning@ISI.EDU Sat Oct 16 01:09:07 1999 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Mason" at Oct 15, 99 03:52:13 pm Message-ID: <199910160009.RAA13211@zephyr.isi.edu> > Hello: > > I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the > list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them > with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be > a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from > the start. > > Regards > Jeff Mason Sure it could. Would you like to fabricate a FAQ? -- --bill From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?= Sat Oct 16 04:44:54 1999 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?= (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?=) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:44:54 -0300 Subject: Local LAN IP References: <19991015.114149.-205925.0.Chris.Luck@juno.com> Message-ID: <009b01bf1788$d6173720$cc3af4c8@fernando> Please, help me to leave this list. -----Mensagem Original----- De: Chris B Luck Para: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Enviada em: Sexta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 1999 12:41 Assunto: Local LAN IP > I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what > would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x > is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?= Sat Oct 16 04:46:19 1999 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?= (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Mendon=E7a?=) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:46:19 -0300 Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. References: <99Oct15.163417gmt-0400.15235@odin.digi-data.com> Message-ID: <00b301bf1789$02b5f1e0$cc3af4c8@fernando> Please, i need to leave this list. Can u help me ? -----Mensagem Original----- De: Robert Honore Para: Cc: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Enviada em: Sexta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 1999 17:40 Assunto: Re: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. > Dear Jeff, > > I think that is an excellent idea. As to what we can put into the FAQ, I would > suggest we start with the existing 6Bone faq and then add to it when we find > that we can distill out an item as a "Best-Practice" item or a very helpful > item. > > Yours sincerely, > Robert Honore. > > Jeff Mason wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the > > list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them > > with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be > > a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from > > the start. > > > > Regards > > Jeff Mason > > > > -- > > Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net > > Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 > From theo@tepucom.nl Sat Oct 16 09:59:08 1999 From: theo@tepucom.nl (Theo Purmer (Tepucom)) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:59:08 +0200 Subject: Local LAN IP Message-ID: <01BF17C5.79261BC0.theo@tepucom.nl> If you had visited http://www.6bone.net then you would have found the page http://www.6bone.net/6bone_email.html where you would have read the following: The 6bone mail list is for 6bone participants, and only open to those that join it. It is a mailing list read by humans, not an auto-responder. Please subscribe to the 6bone mail list if you intend to participate in 6bone activities at any level. To subscribe to the 6bone mail list, send a message to majordomo@isi.edu with the line subscribe 6bone as the contents of the message. Some other useful commands that majordomo understands are help, info 6bone and who 6bone. To unsubscribe from the 6bone mail list, send a message to majordomo@isi.edu with the line unsubscribe 6bone as the contents of the message. To send mail to the list, send it to 6bone@isi.edu. theo purmer ---------- Van: Fernando Mendonca[SMTP:nandom@ruralrj.com.br] Antwoord naar: Fernando Mendonca Verzonden: zaterdag 16 oktober 1999 5:44 Aan: 6bone@ISI.EDU; Chris B Luck Onderwerp: Re: Local LAN IP Please, help me to leave this list. -----Mensagem Original----- De: Chris B Luck Para: <6bone@ISI.EDU> Enviada em: Sexta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 1999 12:41 Assunto: Local LAN IP > I would like to setup a local lan with IPv6 but I'm not sure on what > would be a valid non routable IPv6 IP network address. Like 192.168.x.x > is for IPv4. Can someone please help me? > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > From ksbn@kt.co.kr Mon Oct 18 01:17:25 1999 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:17:25 +0900 Subject: RSIP merit Message-ID: <380A6715.F4AF4F70@kt.co.kr> How are you? Using proxy server, NAT, CIDR, and DHCP, there are many efforts to solve the IP address problem. But IPv6 is the best solution for the IP address problem. Nowadays, some IP researchers say 'Realm Specific IP' is one of good solution for IP address exhaustion problem. If you know RSIP, will you explain about it? What is the merit of RSIP for NAT? Thanks. -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From ksbn@kt.co.kr Mon Oct 18 07:52:48 1999 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:52:48 +0900 Subject: IPv6 router Message-ID: <380AC3BF.848E427C@kt.co.kr> How are you? I'm looking for the stable backbone routers(IPv6). Cisco has just beta solution. Will you send me the product information for IPv6 backbone routers(including release version o/s)? Thank you. -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From hermans@touro.edu Tue Oct 19 00:51:46 1999 From: hermans@touro.edu (Herman Strom) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Stateless Autoconfiguration Message-ID: Hi! My name is Herman Strom. I am runnin Slackware 6.3-beta with Linux-2.2.12/glic-2.1.1. How do I make it so that my local interface gets self-configured on link-local (fe80::0/10) network? Thanks. Bye, Herm --------------------------------------- Herman Strom, Academic Computing Dept. Touro College -- Contact me via: -------------------- Check out my Personal Home Page at: email: Work Phone: 718 871-7292 Home Phone: 718 972-2173 Voice Mail: 718 518-3347 --------------------------------------- From ksbn@kt.co.kr Tue Oct 19 12:10:17 1999 From: ksbn@kt.co.kr (ksb) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:10:17 +0900 Subject: RSIP(Realm Specific IP) Message-ID: <380C5199.13B5D0C4@kt.co.kr> Dear huitema, I read your presentation at IPv6 Forum. You said that RSIP is good for IPv6 evolution. I can't find the difference between NAT/NAPT and RSIP conceptually. Will you explain about it? Is RSIP good for ISP? Thank you. Sahng-Beom Kim -- Kim, Sahng-Beom / Korea Telecom TEL : +82-42-870-8322 FAX : +82-42-870-8329 E-mail : ksbn@kt.co.kr -- From pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net Wed Oct 20 08:11:26 1999 From: pccf@bigbird.earth-net.net (Jeff Mason) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: a suggestion for the ipv6 listserve. In-Reply-To: <199910160009.RAA13211@zephyr.isi.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Bill Manning wrote: > > I've noticed more and more people are asking the same questions on the > > list. i was wondering if a faq could be automatically emailed to them > > with their subscription to this list. Do people here think that would be > > a good idea? It would answer alot of question they would have right from > > the start. > > Sure it could. Would you like to fabricate a FAQ? What about the 6bone faq. Would that do, or should it be re-edited. We don't mind helping put together. Regards Jeff Mason -- Planet Communication & Computing Facility mason@pccf.net Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 From romano@jungla.dit.upm.es Wed Oct 20 16:29:32 1999 From: romano@jungla.dit.upm.es (Romano Piccio-Marchetti Prado) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:29:32 +0200 (CET) Subject: A possible routing loop... Message-ID: Hello all: I don`t know if this is the appropriate mailing list, so if not, please redirect me to that one. We had a tunnel setup and running, and we were able to connect well with other 6Bone sites. A few days ago, sites began not to respond, so this evening, I've made a traceroute form CSELT's Web Page to our site. I include the results below. It seems like some routers are looping the traffic directed to us (in fact, to all the sites that hangs of REDIRIS, our tunnel provider). Could anyone tell what's the way to solve that? TRACEROUTE RESULTS ------------------------------------------------------ Traceroute from carmen.ipv6.cselt.it to 3ffe:3328:4::1 Wed Oct 20 17:16:58 MET DST 1999 datalen = 60 traceroute6 to 3ffe:3328:4::1 (3ffe:3328:4::1), 30 hops max outgoing MTU = 60 1 6bone-gw1.ipv6.cselt.it (3ffe:1001:1:100:2e0:1eff:fe8e:c2ca) 1 ms * 1 ms 2 cselt-if.6r1.doc.london.ip6.pipex.net (3ffe:1100:0:c02::1) 173 ms 155 ms * 3 * doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::2) 381 ms 372 ms 4 * vbns-uunet-uk.hay.vbns.net (3ffe:1100:0:cc08::2) 501 ms * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 3ffe:700:20:1::2 (3ffe:700:20:1::2) 551 ms * 534 ms 9 6b-att-ch.ipv6.imag.fr (3ffe:302:11:2:0:2:0:11) 715 ms * 743 ms 10 exchange.telehouse.ipv6.ja.net (3ffe:1100:0:410:200:cff:fe7e:f979) 683 ms 703 ms * 11 cselt-if.6r1.doc.london.ip6.pipex.net (3ffe:1100:0:c02::1) 685 ms 709 ms 706 ms 12 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::2) 902 ms * 899 ms 13 * * vbns-uunet-uk.hay.vbns.net (3ffe:1100:0:cc08::2) 1023 ms TRACEROUTE RESULTS ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you in advance. Regards, Romano. From psb@ast.cam.ac.uk Thu Oct 21 08:03:33 1999 From: psb@ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter Bunclark) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:03:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: A possible routing loop... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Romano Piccio-Marchetti Prado wrote: > It seems like some routers are looping the traffic directed to us > (in fact, to all the sites that hangs of REDIRIS, our tunnel provider). > Could anyone tell what's the way to solve that? > When I try to get in, it loops at Palo Alto! # traceroute 3ffe:1001:1:100:a00:20ff:fe83:5531 traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 3ffe:2101:12::836f:4515 @ ip.tun1:1 traceroute to 3ffe:1001:1:100:a00:20ff:fe83:5531, 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 tunnel8.ulcc (3ffe:2100:1:15:0:c46:b898:f) 10.198 ms * 7.638 ms 2 3ffe:1100:0:1c01::1 18.100 ms * 17.869 ms 3 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::2) 158.975 ms * 158.783 ms 4 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93) 158.484 ms * 159.152 ms 5 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::2) 331.497 ms * 295.743 ms 6 * doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93) 295.624 ms * 7 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (2001:600:4:4::2) 433.115 ms * 431.815 ms 8 doc-6r1-if.6r1.paloalto.ip6.pipex.net (3ffe:1100:0:410:260:3eff:fe59:4d93) etc etc Peter. From fink@es.net Mon Oct 25 15:33:37 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:33:37 -0700 Subject: 6bone hardening draft -02 call for comments Message-ID: <4.1.19991025071508.00aa3180@imap2.es.net> I have just circulated the following wg last call to the ngtrans list. This separate posting to the 6bone list is to catch folks not on both lists and to keep the duplicate comment responses to a minimum. Please respond only to the ngtrans list. Thanks, Bob === This is an NGtrans working group last call for comments on advancing the following document as Informational: Title : 6Bone Backbone Routing Guildelines Author(s) : R. Rockell, B. Fink Filename : draft-ietf-ngtrans-harden-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 25-Oct-99 Please send substantive comments to the NGtrans mailing list, and minor editorial comments to the authors. This last call period will end two weeks from today on Noember 8, 1999. This version may be slow to appear on the IETF I-D list as it was just submitted within the I-D cutoff for Wash DC, thus I have stored it temporarily on the 6bone/ngtrans web server. Thanks, Bob From bound@zk3.dec.com Tue Oct 26 02:53:26 1999 From: bound@zk3.dec.com (Jim Bound) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:53:26 -0400 Subject: RSIP(Realm Specific IP) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:57:16 EDT." Message-ID: <199910260153.VAA0000016413@quarry.zk3.dec.com> >> We proposed with Jim Bound in the ngtrans group a transition mechanism >> called DSTM (Dual Stack Transition Mechanism). It is, in a way, similar >> to RSIP. We allocate a temporary IPv4 address to IPv6 hosts and we >> tunnel IPv4 packet into IPv6 packet. The tunnel end point is a router at >> the border between IPv6 and IPv4 only network. This allow part of a >> network to move to IPv6, the rest can stay in IPv4. >> >> The main difference with RSIP is that IPv4 applications don't have to be >> recompiled to deal with DSTM. >From Shane Kerr Oct 25........ >My understanding is that applications don't have to be recompilied to deal >with RSIP either. That is, I should be able to use the good old-fashioned >connect() and sendto()/recvfrom() API without changing the binaries. The >IP stacks need to be recompiled, to fetch an IP/port from the realm server >before a connection is instantiated, but applications should run without >modification. Only applications that bind() to a specific IP and/or port >should be affected, as I understand it. That is correct the designers did this well. DSTM does not require an IPv4-ONLY node to do anything even if it is using a private address, as then its an intranet solution. Thats the difference. All the code to make DSTM work is on IPv6 not IPv4. So in that sense IPv4 stuff don't have to be messed with. The only common thingees btw RSIP and DSTM are as follows: 1. Translation is not required for an IPv6 node to talk with IPv4. Though I am extrapolating as RSIP has not specified the added functions of IPv6. 2. Global IPv4 addresses are assigned to the end node temporarily from a pool. 3. Most of the architectural precepts and reason for the solutions are similiar. But DSTM addresses directly the transition issue where a user wants to deploy IPv6 on an Intranet but needs to speak with IPv4-ONLY nodes either on the Intranet or on the Internet. Also DSTM permits the incoming connection of IPv4 to an IPv6 node that is then dynamically assigned an IPv4 address as needed. DSTM also provides a Dynamic Tunnel Interface and other parts to make all this work... Yada Yada Yada... But there is no free lunch here as with any transition mechanism, but we do preserve users the ability to use end-to-end computing in its purist form and with IPsec if they choose, as defined by those standards. That is why we consider our NGTRANS proposal/solution unique and distinct. See draft-ietf-ngtrans-dstm-00.txt and send comments to the ngtrans list. What we do not want to do IMO is to deploy RSIP as another band-aid to not get to IPv6. That would be stupid. But RSIP is a good alternative to translation in its present form within IPv4. Once we get DSTM clear within the NGTRANS group it is probably wise for the DSTM authors and RSIP authors to connect and have some kind of meeting of the minds. But lets not interfere with either proposals idea and let each working group make each of them good. Then we take two good things and see what applicability exists. As an idea for thought. But this is an IPv6 list and RSIP is not doing IPv6. thanks /jim From fink@es.net Tue Oct 26 15:44:46 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:44:46 -0700 Subject: IPv6 code on 7200 with ATM In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19991025071508.00aa3180@imap2.es.net> Message-ID: <4.1.19991026074314.01619830@imap2.es.net> Tom, At 11:47 PM 10/25/99 -0700, Tom Hutton wrote: >Is anyone running the IPv6 code on a 7200 with a PA-A3 Oc3 ATM adapter? >The two images on cisco's beta site seem to not know what this host >adapter is (I get a unknown PA type 83 - powering down message) > >Strangly I thought this was the configuration ESnet was using. I believe it is, but we use the 12.0T beta code from the developers directly. Get in touch with Becca Nitzan for more details on that: Becca Nitzan Bob From aljaz@iskratel.si Sun Oct 31 09:02:21 1999 From: aljaz@iskratel.si (Aljaz Tomaz RDSI) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:02:21 +0100 Subject: Explenation of IPSec fields Message-ID: <7E8519F1A7C0D211B0D200A0C93AA60F3D28B5@ntmail.iskratel.si> Hi! I just trace IPSec packets with SMS Network Monitor between 2 WinNT stations with MSR IPv6 1.3 and I need some explenation. In ESP Trailer I have following trace: ESP trailer ESP Padding = 1 (0x1) ESP Pad Lenght = 2 (0x2) Next Header = 58 etc ESP Pad Lenght means that they are 2 byts of padding, where are this two bytes (is one ESP Padding?, where is the other one). Regards, Tomaz