From death@hawaii.rr.com Mon Jan 4 10:46:57 1999 From: death@hawaii.rr.com (Sam Bingner) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:46:57 -1000 Subject: anybody home? References: <4.1.19981227080438.01ac8be0@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: <36909C21.9140C84D@hawaii.rr.com> Havn't seen ANY messages on here lately.... just wondering if everybody died or if I'm just not getting the messages for some reason =] From rlfink@lbl.gov Mon Jan 4 22:13:04 1999 From: rlfink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:13:04 -0800 Subject: REDIRIS now 6bone pTLA 3FFE:3300::/24 Message-ID: <4.1.19990104141120.0091d550@cnrmail.lbl.gov> REDIRIS has been assigned pTLA 3FFE:3300::/24. Thanks, Bob From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Jan 4 22:10:34 1999 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (bmanning@ISI.EDU) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:10:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: REDIRIS now 6bone pTLA 3FFE:3300::/24 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990104141120.0091d550@cnrmail.lbl.gov> from "Bob Fink" at Jan 4, 99 02:13:04 pm Message-ID: <199901042210.AA18544@zed.isi.edu> > > REDIRIS has been assigned pTLA 3FFE:3300::/24. > > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Great! --bill From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Thu Jan 7 15:48:29 1999 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:48:29 -0500 Subject: (ngtrans) ACTION: IETF 44 March Meeting 6bone connect in the terminal room In-Reply-To: <199901071459.JAA0000001303@wasted.zk3.dec.com> Message-ID: <4.1.19990107102955.01395730@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> At 09:59 99-01-07 -0500, Jim Bound wrote: >IPv6 Folks, Jim, since we provided the ipv6 connectivity to the ietf terminal room since the last 2 ietfs, I will take care of this offline with Matt. We have some stats on the use of v6 at the next ietf. >I don't think all IETF meeting terminal rooms should have access to >the IPv6 6bone and new IPv6 backbone networks we may see by March 99. I surely think that we must provide ipv6 connectivity to all ietf terminal rooms. I'm really surprised to see this comment from you. I think the first place where ipv6 should be demonstrated fully is at the ietf. I would like to challenge people that for the next ietf, we will be able to do all our work during ietf in ipv6-only: i.e. email,web,ftp,... (yes, our company will put soon our production mail server on v6 with pop, sendmail,..., we already have the normos site on v6 (try it with a AAAA record http://www.normos.org) so all rfcs,internet-drafts,... are accessible on v6),... We also arranged to mirror the 6bone web site on v6 (try: http://www.6bone.net with a AAAA record). At least, the guys from our company will use v6-only during the next ietf. Any other takers? At 09:59 99-01-07 -0500, Jim Bound wrote: >IPv6 Folks, > >It has come to my attention that Matt Holderidge from Ascend has relayed >to one of my folks that IPv6 for the 6bone in the IETF 44 Meeting >Terminal room is not getting requested. > >Can you all please begin to send mail to Matt (matt@ascend.com) that we >want IPv6 in the terminal room at Minneapolis. > >I don't think all IETF meeting terminal rooms should have access to >the IPv6 6bone and new IPv6 backbone networks we may see by March 99. > >Please let Matt hear from you. Compaq is reviewing now if we can >support IPv6 capable UNIX servers in the terminal room now to support >IPv6 and why I heard this news. At the last ietf, Compaq already supported the unix servers in v6. Mary did that. > >thanks >/jim Regards, Marc. ----------------------------------------------------------- Marc Blanchet | Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Viagénie inc. | http://www.viagenie.qc.ca 3107 des hôtels | tél.: 418-656-9254 Ste-Foy, Québec | fax.: 418-656-0183 Canada, G1W 4W5 | radio: VA2-JAZ ------------------------------------------------------------ Internet Engineering Standards/Normes d'ingénierie Internet http://www.normos.org ------------------------------------------------------------ From Alain.Durand@imag.fr Thu Jan 7 18:19:19 1999 From: Alain.Durand@imag.fr (Alain Durand) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:19:19 +0100 Subject: Grenoble interim IETF social event Message-ID: <199901071820.TAA24615@imag.imag.fr> Hi alll. The agenda is now online on http://www.ipv6.imag.fr/ietf1999.html. Also, I'm pleased to announce that we will have a social event on tuesday evening. Places are limited to 50 only... sorry about that, so they'll go to the first 50 who will register. Be quick! More on this social event on the web server. To register to the social, send e-mail to ietf@imag.fr - Alain. From slo@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Sat Jan 9 23:17:47 1999 From: slo@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Siu Ming Lo) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:17:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Problem on re-compile ncftp Message-ID: Hi Folks, I try to re-compile the ncftp, the ipv4/ipv6 FTP client come with the package downloaded from Microsoft research web site. In the readme.txt, it said i need to have all msripv6, ncftp and pdcurses directory under the same directory tree, and I did it. Then i type "nmake" in ncftp directory to perform the build under dos prompt enviroment, and it basically said no such command. Also i don't see there is a nmake application inside the ncftp directory. Did anyone of you re-compile ncftp before? How am i able to do it? Please help. Siu From bound@zk3.dec.com Mon Jan 11 14:18:50 1999 From: bound@zk3.dec.com (bound@zk3.dec.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:18:50 -0500 Subject: V6-Deployment Gathering Minutes Message-ID: <199901111418.AA22433@quarry.zk3.dec.com> Folks, If you want to get involved with this list you can join by sending mail to majrodomo@alpha.zk3.dec.com by subscribing to v6-deployment-cabal list. This should not replace the purpose of the v6imp list. /jim ---------------------- Return-Path: bound@alpha.zk3.dec.com Received: from bryalpha.zk3.dec.com by mailhub2.zk3.dec.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/24Sep96-0323PM) id AA05631; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:11:29 -0500 Received: by alpha.zk3.dec.com (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/18Feb95-1123AM) id JAA0000025487; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from quarry.zk3.dec.com by alpha.zk3.dec.com (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/18Feb95-1123AM) id JAA0000020829; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:10:34 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Bound Received: from localhost by quarry.zk3.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/16Jan95-0946AM) id AA20816; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:10:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199901111410.AA20816@quarry.zk3.dec.com> To: v6-deployment-cabal@alpha.zk3.dec.com Subject: High-Level Minutes from the Gathering Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:10:34 -0500 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-v6-deployment-cabal@alpha.zk3.dec.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jim Bound Folks, Here is my recollection of the high-points of the gathering. Please send me bullets and additions OK. Critical reqs for IPv6 deployment: Vendors must deploy IPv6 in base products: Required First Stage deployment needs: 1) IPv6 stack supporting core specs 2) Transition Mechanisms (1933-update) and V6overV4 Tunnels 3) RIPng and BGP4+ (for forwarding) 4) AAAA Records for now 5) WEB Server and Browser 6) Basic API 7) Basic Network Utilities (ping, ifconfig, netstact, tcpdump) 8) FTP and TELNET 9) Email via Sendmail We need to discuss this list more in depth on the mail list and sub-bullet requirements. We need to define additional stages of deployment and transition scenarios. What time-frames can Host and Routers vendors commit to now? Need to discuss the business reasons for IPv6 and killer apps that will benefit. What key features do ISPs need? What key features do commercial end users need? What key features do highly-technical end users need? What applicatons are critical path to be ported supported by VENDORS? ISVs? FREE-WARE APPS? We need to set up an intense technical grass roots movement? Perry Metzger suggested this and will try to set up mail lists and coordinate IPv6 servers within the technical community. We will have another mail list called v6-lovers which will be for the entire world to discuss the needs of IPv6 for deployment. This will be our first priority and this list will feed future requirements and bugs, etc... Comment was we need real customers on this list too. We need to coordinate efforts in the IPv6 community to get IPv6 deployed by sharing information across the board. We will need "how to" for transition mechanisms. /jim From cesar@cuk.redes.unam.mx Fri Jan 15 00:21:55 1999 From: cesar@cuk.redes.unam.mx (Cesar Olvera Morales) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:21:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello We work in Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM),the largest University in Mexico. We are seeking for tunnel to 6bone. The our main goal is to get experience with IPv6. Thanks in advance, Research and Development Network Operation Departament DGSCA-UNAM From Jack Wilkinson Fri Jan 15 01:14:03 1999 From: Jack Wilkinson (Jack Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:14:03 -0500 Subject: irc, etc Message-ID: <0843.990114@jounce.net> is there an IRC server/channel where I could get interactive help or something? would make life much easier than games of e-mail tag... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jack Wilkinson President - JounceNET Internet Services Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... From cdavila@metlife.com Fri Jan 15 15:42:16 1999 From: cdavila@metlife.com (Carlos Davila) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:42:16 -0500 Subject: Connection to 6Bone Message-ID: <852566FA.0056F9CC.00@MetMtaG2.metlife.com> I work for MetLife in New York. We are seeking for tunnel to 6bone. The our main goal is to get experience with IPv6. From peterdd@gto.net.om Fri Jan 15 19:09:27 1999 From: peterdd@gto.net.om (Peter Dawson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:09:27 +0400 Subject: tunnerl broker protocol Message-ID: <369F9264.A822FB45@gto.net.om> hi is there any ID for tunnel broker protocol ? if not where could I find some more details on this complementary ngtrans mechanism ...more specifically how will this work with tunnel endpoints on the dual stack ? thks /pete From teknopup@earthlink.net Fri Jan 15 18:16:00 1999 From: teknopup@earthlink.net (Chris R. Evans) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:16:00 -0000 (GMT) Subject: porting Ipv6 for embedded dos systems Message-ID: <199901160248.SAA04869@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> on the topic porting Ipv6 for embedded dos systems, are there any difficulties to doing such a thing? are there any RFCs/infomation sources for ipv6 protocol? yes, i am wanting to update my pppfossil to v6 support. -tkp [http://members.xoom.com/teknopuppy] --- CP/M&UNIX&FREEBSD&DEBIAN&MS-DOS&PC-DOSI'LLDIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU? *** MYREADER v.2.65g.19990113.r68; Made for Net-Tamer. From Alain.Durand@imag.fr Mon Jan 18 18:46:00 1999 From: Alain.Durand@imag.fr (Alain Durand) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:46:00 +0100 Subject: Grenoble meeting: maps Message-ID: <199901181847.TAA11729@imag.imag.fr> Hi folks I've scanned some maps of Grenoble and the university campus. You'll find them on http://www.ipv6.imag.fr/ietf1999.html Also, there are 10 places left for the social... - Alain. From cdavila@metlife.com Mon Jan 18 23:29:01 1999 From: cdavila@metlife.com (Carlos Davila) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:29:01 -0500 Subject: IPv6 Testing Message-ID: <852566FD.00818B2F.00@MetMtaG2.metlife.com> Can someone answer the following questions regarding testing on the 6Bone ? What kind of testing can I do ? -> Do you have the instructions two load and configure a dual IPV4 and IPV6 stack on a -> NT4.0 workstation ? -> Do you have some test plans that other companies follow after connecting to the 6bone ? From ace@datafax.no Tue Jan 19 19:34:21 1999 From: ace@datafax.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Sannes?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:34:21 -0000 Subject: ICMP Unreachable Message-ID: <002401be43e2$b6bc0d80$010a0a0a@ace.sannes.org> It might not be a big problem for most people, but in the IPv4 used today any person can disconnect almost any connection with little or no knowledge using ICMP unreachable attacks. I was woundering if this was fixed in IPv6, or if the "problem" will persist. -- ace From mcabral@unl.edu.ar Wed Jan 20 04:37:46 1999 From: mcabral@unl.edu.ar (Leonardo R. Cabral) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:37:46 -0600 Subject: Abbreviations for a Newbie. Message-ID: <000201be449d$222d4920$0f02000a@UNL> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BE43FC.55C2C540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: I'm newbie in the IP world and I'm going to work in an internet centre = soon, here in Argentina, so I wonder if someone could explain me some = abbreviations, like pTLA and any other you use every day. I also suppose = that it is better to implement IPV6 on a Unix related environment like = Linux than in a Windows environment, is this right? 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I'm newbie in the IP world and I'm = going to work=20 in an internet centre soon, here in Argentina, so I wonder if someone = could=20 explain me some abbreviations, like pTLA and any other you use every = day. I also=20 suppose that it is better to implement IPV6 on a Unix related = environment like=20 Linux than in a Windows environment, is this right? In addition, what = reading=20 can you recommend me?
------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BE43FC.55C2C540-- From deering@cisco.com Wed Jan 20 16:30:00 1999 From: deering@cisco.com (Steve Deering) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:30:00 -0800 Subject: ICMP Unreachable In-Reply-To: <002401be43e2$b6bc0d80$010a0a0a@ace.sannes.org> Message-ID: At 11:34 AM -0800 1/19/99, Asbjørn Sannes wrote: > It might not be a big problem for most people, but in the IPv4 used today > any person can disconnect almost any connection with little or no knowledge > using ICMP unreachable attacks. > > I was woundering if this was fixed in IPv6, or if the "problem" will > persist. This problem is largely due to shortcomings in TCP implementations which are independent of IPv4 vs. IPv6. However, since IPv6 requires implementors to make at least some minor changes to TCP code (to deal with bigger addresses and changed pseudo-header), it would be nice if implementors used the occasion to also fix their TCPs' behavior in response to ICMP error message (in particular, changing them to treat most ICMP errors as transient rather than fatal). Steve From kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru Wed Jan 20 17:21:51 1999 From: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru (kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:21:51 +0300 (MSK) Subject: ICMP Unreachable In-Reply-To: from "Steve Deering" at Jan 20, 99 08:30:00 am Message-ID: <199901201721.UAA12908@ms2.inr.ac.ru> Hello! > nice if implementors used the occasion to also fix their TCPs' behavior > in response to ICMP error message (in particular, changing them to > treat most ICMP errors as transient rather than fatal). Even not most, but all ones, if ICMP message arrives when connection is in established state. Alexey Kuznetsov From bmanning@ISI.EDU Wed Jan 20 17:18:37 1999 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (bmanning@ISI.EDU) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:18:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: BOUNCE (bob has a new address!) Message-ID: <199901201718.AA06378@zed.isi.edu> I support this request. > 6bone Folk, > > CHTTL-TW, the ChungHwa Telecom. Co or Taiwan, is applying for a pTLA. > Please send any comments on this to either me or the list by 8 February 1999. > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > ==== > >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:10:55 +0800 > >From: Yann-Ju Chu > >To: rlfink@lbl.gov > >Subject: Apply for pTLA > > > >Dear Bob: > > I am responsible for IPv6 testbed for ChungHwa Telecom. Co. and wish > >to become a backbone site on 6Bone. > > > >1. must have experience with ipv6 in the 6bone, at least as a leaf > >site, and preferably as an NLA transit under a pTLA. > > > > We have become a leaf site as CHTTL-TW and later become > >a transit site running BGP4+ with TELEBIT as TLSW-TW. Right now, We are > >providing > >serveral private "test" tunnels to various organizations in Taiwan (which > >most of > >them are research centers such as universities). > > Our registry in 6Bone can be accessed by: > > http://www.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk/ipv6/6Bone/Whois/TLSW-TW.html > > > >2. must have the ability and intent to provide "production-like" 6bone > >backbone service to provide a robust and operationally reliable 6bone > >backbone. > > We have set up our IPv6 testbed with a dedicated production IPv6 router > >with link provided by TANET, which is provided by our own company. And right > >now, > > We have provided several IPv6 tunnels to other sites in Taiwan. > > > >3. must have a potential "user community" that would be served by > >becoming a pTLA, e.g., the requester is a major player in a region, > >country or focus of interest. > > We are the major telecommunication company in Taiwan with several > > millions of customers. We are also one of the majer ISP in Taiwan. Our > company > >are always in the leading position in this field. We have now set a home > >page for apply > >connection to us > > http://march.chttl.com.tw > > http://march.ipv6.chttl.com.tw (IPv6 protocols only) > > > >4. must commit to abide by whatever the 6bone backbone operational > >rules and policies are (currently there are no formal ones, but the > >alain duran draft is a start in trying to define some). > > > >we will abide to the 6bone operational rules and policies. > > > > Regards > > Y. J. Chu > > Switching Technology Department > > ChungHwa Telecom. Co. > > -- "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From narten@raleigh.ibm.com Wed Jan 20 17:34:35 1999 From: narten@raleigh.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:34:35 -0500 Subject: ICMP Unreachable In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:30:00 PST." Message-ID: <199901201734.MAA16644@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> > > It might not be a big problem for most people, but in the IPv4 used today > > any person can disconnect almost any connection with little or no knowledge > > using ICMP unreachable attacks. > > > > I was woundering if this was fixed in IPv6, or if the "problem" will > > persist. > This problem is largely due to shortcomings in TCP implementations > which are independent of IPv4 vs. IPv6. However, since IPv6 requires > implementors to make at least some minor changes to TCP code (to > deal with bigger addresses and changed pseudo-header), it would be > nice if implementors used the occasion to also fix their TCPs' behavior > in response to ICMP error message (in particular, changing them to > treat most ICMP errors as transient rather than fatal). Indeed, this has been a known problem for quite some time. RFC 1122 specifically says: > o Destination Unreachable -- codes 0, 1, 5 > > Since these Unreachable messages indicate soft error > conditions, TCP MUST NOT abort the connection, and it > SHOULD make the information available to the > application. Which recent stacks still don't follow this recommendation? I thought this problem had been largely fixed. Thomas From bmanning@ISI.EDU Wed Jan 20 17:33:43 1999 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (bmanning@ISI.EDU) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:33:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: BOUNCE (bob has a new address!) Message-ID: <199901201733.AA11290@zed.isi.edu> Er, more detail, the 6bone list is pretty restrictive on posting rights. Bob Fink posted a note from and not from his old address as . Bob, want to subscribe? :) -- "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From Critcher_J@ipng.net Wed Jan 20 18:09:38 1999 From: Critcher_J@ipng.net (Jean Critcher) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:09:38 -0500 Subject: Singapore Linux Conference and IPv6 Message-ID: <005e01be44a0$0b20aee0$17db8bcd@ipng_07.ipng.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BE4476.22417F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Business Internet, Inc. is pleased to announce that the president of the company, John Page, has been asked to present an IPv6 tutorial using Linux at the Linux Conference which takes place in Singapore from March 5-7, 1999. See http://slc.linux.com.sg/ for details on the conference. Please let us know if any of the 6bone mailing list recipients will be attending so that we can meet and share insights on our IPv6 discoveries in the Linux environment. Regards to All, Jean Critcher __ Jean Critcher, Vice President of Operations The Business Internet, Inc Tel: +1 540 882 3849 Fax: +1 540 882 3849 Beepwear Pager: 888-783-5894 / 7835894@skytel.com TBI: http://www.ipng.net MCOM: http://www.multimediacomm.com (Big Planet Independent Representative) ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BE4476.22417F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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March=20 5-7, 1999.  See http://slc.linux.com.sg/ for = details on the=20 conference.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BE4476.22417F20-- From richdr@microsoft.com Wed Jan 20 21:28:57 1999 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:28:57 -0800 Subject: connectivity problems with 3ffe:c00::/24? Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8100AF81B43@RED-MSG-50> For the last few days, I've been unable to contact some sites that are usually quite reliable for me. In all cases, a traceroute gets as far as 3ffe:c00:e:3::1 and then no response after that. 3ffe:c00::/24 is CISCO's pTLA. Any clues? Thanks, Rich From Alain.Durand@imag.fr Thu Jan 21 13:41:50 1999 From: Alain.Durand@imag.fr (Alain Durand) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:41:50 +0100 Subject: Interim Meeting registration fees. Message-ID: <199901211343.OAA16648@imag.imag.fr> Hi. We came out with a solution to get you some lunch during the meeting. We will have a catering service with a buffet and we will have to charge some fees for that. The registration fees, covering the 3 lunches and 3 afternoom breaks, will be 100F per day. So, the total will be 300F (about $50) for the meeting and 450F (300+150) if you attend the social. We will open a registration desk on tuesday, Feb. 2nd, morning at 8:00 AM. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ---- Please come with ***exact*** change in cash in french francs ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- We can take french checks from a french bank, but we can not take credit cards. - Alain. From mcabral@unl.edu.ar Thu Jan 21 18:05:20 1999 From: mcabral@unl.edu.ar (Leonardo R. Cabral) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:05:20 -0600 Subject: Abbreviations for a Newbie. Message-ID: <002c01be4568$9cfd16a0$0f02000a@UNL> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BE4536.511C1CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean: Thanks for the links they'll be very useful to me. I also be very = grateful if you forward me the tutorial once you have it's outline = together. Leonardo R. Cabral Las Heras 4551 (3000) - Santa Fe Argentina mcabral@unl.edu.ar TEL/FAX: 54-42-554389 (up to January 24) TEL/FAX: 54-342-4554389 (from January 24) Universidad Tecnol=F3gica Nacional - Facultad Regional Santa Fe ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BE4536.511C1CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BE4536.511C1CE0-- From schoen@uclink4.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 21 22:55:33 1999 From: schoen@uclink4.Berkeley.EDU (Seth David Schoen) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:55:33 -0800 Subject: Singapore Linux Conference and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <005e01be44a0$0b20aee0$17db8bcd@ipng_07.ipng.net>; from Jean Critcher on Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 01:09:38PM -0500 References: <005e01be44a0$0b20aee0$17db8bcd@ipng_07.ipng.net> Message-ID: <19990121145533.C14422@requiem.geecs.org> Jean Critcher writes: > The Business Internet, Inc. is pleased to announce that the president of the > company, John Page, has been asked to present an IPv6 tutorial using Linux > at the Linux Conference which takes place in Singapore from > March 5-7, 1999. See http://slc.linux.com.sg/ for details on the > conference. > > Please let us know if any of the 6bone mailing list recipients will be > attending so that we can meet and share insights on our IPv6 discoveries in > the Linux environment. I'm doing a very similar thing at LinuxWorld Expo, in San Jose, CA from March 1-4, 1999, under the name of "Linux and the Future of the Internet". I would appreciate any comments from list subscribers about what they think is worth communicating or reporting about Linux and IPv6 to a general audience of Linux enthusiasts and business users. -- Seth David Schoen / schoen@uclink4.berkeley.edu He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do." And they said, "Nay, but we will have a king over us, that we also may be like all the nations." (1 Sam 8) http://ishmael.geecs.org/~sigma/ http://www.loyalty.org/ From richdr@microsoft.com Tue Jan 26 23:34:58 1999 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:34:58 -0800 Subject: MSR IPv6 Release 1.2 Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8100AF81BCF@RED-MSG-50> Microsoft Research and ISI East are pleased to announce Release 1.2 of our MSR IPv6 stack for Windows NT. See http://www.research.microsoft.com/msripv6 for more details and download information. Some highlights: - Source and binaries are freely available. - Full support for the core (draft standard) IPv6 specs. - Routing (with static routing tables) and sending Router Advertisements. You can use an MSR IPv6 machine to connect a local network to the 6bone. - Web support, with a port of Internet Explorer and a free web server called Fnord!. Check out http://ipv6.research.microsoft.com, a v6-only web site on the 6bone. - Ports of SDR and RAT (multicast multimedia applications), thanks to the help of UCL. - A v6/v4 address/protocol translator, in cooperation with UW. - Correspondence with mobile IPv6 nodes. To support developers, we're going to start daily source drops. Send email to msripv6-bugs@list.research.microsoft.com to request more information about the daily source drops. See http://list.research.microsoft.com/archives/msripv6-users.html to join our discussion list or search the archives. Thanks, Rich From fink@es.net Tue Jan 26 21:36:40 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:36:40 -0800 Subject: pTLA request by CHTTL-TW - comments by 8 Feb 99 please (2nd announcment) Message-ID: <4.1.19990126133424.009d6a40@imap2.es.net> [I'm sending this out again as I believe it may not have been seen by some when I switched my email address.] 6Bone Folk, CHTTL-TW, the ChungHwa Telecom. Co or Taiwan, is applying for a pTLA. Please send any comments on this to either me or the list by 8 February 1999. Thanks, Bob ==== >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:10:55 +0800 >From: Yann-Ju Chu >To: rlfink@lbl.gov >Subject: Apply for pTLA > >Dear Bob: > I am responsible for IPv6 testbed for ChungHwa Telecom. Co. and wish >to become a backbone site on 6Bone. > >1. must have experience with ipv6 in the 6bone, at least as a leaf >site, and preferably as an NLA transit under a pTLA. > > We have become a leaf site as CHTTL-TW and later become >a transit site running BGP4+ with TELEBIT as TLSW-TW. Right now, We are >providing >serveral private "test" tunnels to various organizations in Taiwan (which >most of >them are research centers such as universities). > Our registry in 6Bone can be accessed by: > http://www.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk/ipv6/6Bone/Whois/TLSW-TW.html > >2. must have the ability and intent to provide "production-like" 6bone >backbone service to provide a robust and operationally reliable 6bone >backbone. > We have set up our IPv6 testbed with a dedicated production IPv6 router >with link provided by TANET, which is provided by our own company. And right >now, > We have provided several IPv6 tunnels to other sites in Taiwan. > >3. must have a potential "user community" that would be served by >becoming a pTLA, e.g., the requester is a major player in a region, >country or focus of interest. > We are the major telecommunication company in Taiwan with several > millions of customers. We are also one of the majer ISP in Taiwan. Our company >are always in the leading position in this field. We have now set a home >page for apply >connection to us > http://march.chttl.com.tw > http://march.ipv6.chttl.com.tw (IPv6 protocols only) > >4. must commit to abide by whatever the 6bone backbone operational >rules and policies are (currently there are no formal ones, but the >alain duran draft is a start in trying to define some). > >we will abide to the 6bone operational rules and policies. > > Regards > Y. J. Chu > Switching Technology Department > ChungHwa Telecom. Co. From Latif.LADID@village.uunet.lu Thu Jan 28 07:15:28 1999 From: Latif.LADID@village.uunet.lu (Latif LADID) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:15:28 +0100 Subject: V6 Deployment 3rd Day Final Agenda In-Reply-To: <199901261915.OAA0000028045@wasted.zk3.dec.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990128081528.0079a260@j.pop.uunet.lu> Dear Jim, I would like to address the issue of promotion 'influencing Developers, vendors,..', presenting a promotion discussion paper for endorsement by the working group. Latif LADID Vice President of Telebit Communications Chairman, Global-ISDN At 14:15 26/01/99 -0500, Jim Bound wrote: > >=== >Thursday, February 4 -- IPv6 Deployment and Promotion >----------------------------------------------------- >The purpose of this day will be to review current deployment >activities, potential additional efforts, and opportunities for >educating and influencing developers, ISPs, network managers, and >users. This will include answering the following questions: >- Why would anyone run IPv6 now? >- Why would anyone ever run IPv6? >- Who will deploy IPv6 first? >- Will the Internet lead Corporate networks or follow as IPv6 is >deployed? >- How to get ISPs to deploy IPv6? > >We would like to request that each attendee come with answers to the >above questions for discussion on this 3rd day. > >This is the Final Agenda before Grenbole. We will do Agenda Bashing at >Grenoble and select order and times. > >Agenda: >(1) Discussion of the questions above. >(2) Existing deployment efforts: >- 6BONE (who?) >- 6REN (who?) >(3) Potential efforts: >- IPv6 Exchanges (who?) >- Corporate Plans (who?) >- ISP Plans (who?) >- ... >(4) Promotion >- IPv6.org (who?) >- Influencing developers, vendors, etc. (who?) >(5) Presentations: >- Bob Fink - 6REN and 6TAP >- Jim Bound - The Palo Alto Gateway and IPv6 and sub-TLA Request Strategy >- Marc Blanchet - IPv6 Deployment Issues >- Henk Steenman - Amsterdam Internet Exchange (AMS-IX) native IPv6 environment >- Jim Bound for Perry Metzger - Status of the V6 Deployment List Activities >- Jun Murai - IPv6 Deployment in Japan >- Paula Caslav - Proposed Guidelines RIPE NCC Regional Registries for IPv6 >(6) Public Domain Code Needs for IPv6 Discussion >- Appache Web Server >- Sendmail >- BIND >- BSD Network Utilities > >thanks >/jim > > From oystein@homelien.no Fri Jan 29 06:33:21 1999 From: oystein@homelien.no (Oystein Homelien) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:33:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: irc, etc In-Reply-To: <0843.990114@jounce.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Jack Wilkinson wrote: > is there an IRC server/channel where I could get interactive help or > something? would make life much easier than games of e-mail tag... EFnet, #ipv6. Not very active, but I've handed out some tunnels etc there to people who have dropped by. Oystein Homelien | oystein@powertech.no PowerTech Information Systems AS | http://www.powertech.no/ Nedre Slottsgate 5, N-0157 OSLO | tel: +47-23-010-010, fax: +47-2220-0333 From bernard@mynet.com.my Fri Jan 29 07:12:50 1999 From: bernard@mynet.com.my (Bernard Cheah) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:12:50 +0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000001be4b56$c863b1c0$3743b8ca@bernard.mynet.com.my> Hi everybody, just wondering is there any malaysian in this list ! so I can have better chance to learn about this IPv6 project ? Thank you. Bernard Cheah PJ, Malaysia From fink@es.net Fri Jan 29 15:15:24 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:15:24 -0800 Subject: In-Reply-To: <000001be4b56$c863b1c0$3743b8ca@bernard.mynet.com.my> Message-ID: <4.1.19990129071123.0094c310@imap2.es.net> At 03:12 PM 1/29/99 +0800, Bernard Cheah wrote: >Hi everybody, just wondering is there any malaysian in this list ! >so I can have better chance to learn about this IPv6 project ? Look on the country list and follow thru the registry. Bob From fink@es.net Fri Jan 29 15:18:21 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:18:21 -0800 Subject: Setting up the H/W for IPv6 implementation and test environments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.1.19990129071634.009c3cb0@imap2.es.net> Yasmine, At 01:14 PM 1/29/99 +0000, Yasmine Arafa wrote: >Hi there, > >In our section we are looking at setting up the required H/W for IPv6 >implementation and test environments. I attach a diagram of the specific >routers chosen. My question is are these appropriate for setting up such a >test bed? >Are there suggestions for better choices based on individual site >experiences? >Do I need anything else? > >Any suggestions to which vendor? >I am looking at the 3com NetBuilder II for the router and SuperStack II >1100? Has anyone used these? Someone on the list will need to respond to you on this as I have no knowledge of what works with 3COM equipment for IPv6. I noticed a Cisco GSR 12000 on your ppt slide. Note that it does not, at this time, support IPv6. Bob From fink@es.net Sat Jan 30 00:34:06 1999 From: fink@es.net (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:34:06 -0800 Subject: 6REN Overview Information Message-ID: <4.1.19990129163339.009af860@imap2.es.net> To all parties interested in IPv6: I've been talking about the formation of the 6REN for several months now, and have established a domain and web site at . Many of you have been asking me for more information so this is a kickoff message. Please address any messages to me at . Thanks, Bob Fink ESnet ========================================= 6REN - IPv6 Research & Education Networks Overview and Introduction In October of 1998, the Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) established a "6REN" initiative for promoting the introduction of IPv6 services into the production Internet. As ESnet is a US national-level "Research & Education Network", the focus was set on encouraging and helping Research & Education Networks worldwide to start providing IPv6 services. Thus the 6ren is a voluntary coordination initiative of Research and Education Networks that provide production IPv6 transit service to facilitiate high quality, high performance, and operationally robust IPv6 networks. Participation is free and open to all Research and Education Networks that provide IPv6 service. Other for-profit and not-for-profit IPv6 networks are also encouraged to participate. Primary Goals The primary goals of the 6REN are: 1. provide production quality IPv6 packet delivery services 2. developing operational procedures for IPv6 networks 3. promoting the deployment of IPv6 networks 4. enabling early IPv6-ready application testing and deployment Who May Participate Any network providing, or planning to provide, IPv6 production services can participate. This includes service providers (i.e., those carrying IPv6 for other networks) as well as end user (leaf) sites (i.e., those carrying IPv6 for their own site's use). The only condition is that the network/site is using production IPv6 addresses (as soon as they are available) and provides production quality IPv6 service. There are no fees or costs to participation other than the time, equipment and good will that the participant contributes for the provision of the production IPv6 service. How to Participate The 6REN has a mail list at <6ren@es.net> that requires you to join the list to submit mail to it. Just send "subscribe" in the body of the message to 6ren-request@es.net. First Step for the 6REN Starting in October, 1998, production native IPv6 over ATM interconnections were established between ESnet, Internet2/vBNS, Canarie, Cairn and WIDE. Though these connections were done using testing (6bone) IPv6 addresses, the participants will convert to their production IPv6 addresses as soon as they are issued by the address registries, hopefully by the end of the 1st quarter of 1999 (currently promised by ARIN, APNIC and RIPE-NCC). Also, ESnet will provide transit for all 6bone connected networks to all 6REN networks to guarantee early continuity for early application and operational testing. A Next Step for the 6REN - the 6TAP In order to facilitate the easy interconnection of 6REN participants in the US, Canarie and ESnet are jointly sponsoring an IPv6 Exchange "6TAP" project to provide routing and route serving services at the StarTAP in Chicago. The 6TAP will provide an IPv6 capable router and route server colocated at StarTAP to experiment with early route administration and peering services to assist in the development of IPv6 operational procedures. What's Next Getting the word about the 6REN to the 6bone networks able to run production IPv6 networks is a first order of business. In addition, ESnet is helping carry the message to those networks not yet IPv6 experienced to help them understand the value of 6REN participation. Another important effort is to promote production Internet traffic to be moved over 6REN networks in native IPv6 wherever and whenever possible. Anyone with questions are encouraged to contact Bob Fink of ESnet (fink@es.net). -end From map@stacken.kth.se Sun Jan 31 19:48:39 1999 From: map@stacken.kth.se (Magnus Ahltorp) Date: 31 Jan 1999 20:48:39 +0100 Subject: trying to join 6bone In-Reply-To: Ziya Suzen's message of "Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:33:20 +0200" References: <34D35250.44070092@ebim.net> Message-ID: > I work for an ISP in Northern Cyprus and i would like to join the 6bone > eventualy. I have read the "how to join 6bone" page on the site and i > foun out i need atleast two machines one router and one host. I was > wondering if two Linux boxes could do. One as a host and one as a > router. I use a Sparc 10 with Linux as a router, and it works fine. /Magnus map@stacken.kth.se