From richdr@microsoft.com Wed Oct 7 17:49:50 1998 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:49:50 -0700 Subject: FW: 10/06/98 6Bone Routing Report Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8100AF813C5@RED-MSG-50> Recently it seems the 6bone has been vacillating between two states - one in which everything looks OK (except for bogus 5f routes... will they ever go away?) and the BGP traffic is low, and a second state in which there is a path for the unspecified address (a problem with JOIN?) and the BGP traffic is high. Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks, Rich -----Original Message----- From: owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu [mailto:owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 11:41 PM To: 6bone-routing-report@merit.edu Subject: 10/06/98 6Bone Routing Report See http://www.merit.edu/ipma for a more detailed report on routing problems and recommendations on ways service providers can limit the spread of invalid routing information. Send comments and questions to ipma-support@merit.edu To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to 6bone-routing-report-request@merit.edu. A hypermail archive is available at http://www.merit.net/mail.archives/html/6bone-routing-report/ Also see http://www.caida.org for more information about Internet statistics collection research efforts. --------------------------------------------- This report is for 10/06/98, peering with VIAGENIE (AS10566) CISCO (AS109) CICNET (AS1225) SZCZECIN (AS1887) WIDE (AS2500) TELEBIT (AS3263) ETRI (AS3559) EWD-3COM (AS561) NUS-IRDU (AS7610) --------------------------------------------- Size of 6Bone Routing Table: Max = 98, Min = 96, Average = 96 54 Unique Autonomous System (AS) numbers BGP4+ Traffic Summary: Announcements = 39966 Withdraws = 7090 Unique Routes = 76 Non-6Bone Prefixes (outside of 3ffe::/16): -------------------------------- 0000::/0 path 561 5408 8253 137 1275 (JOIN) 1000::/4 path 561 5408 8253 137 1275 (JOIN) 5f00:4700::/32 path 109 (CISCO) 5f00:6d00::/32 path 109 (CISCO) 5f01:7800::/32 path 109 1225 (CICNET) 5f04:c500:cb26:1100::/64 path 109 (CISCO) 5f0b:4f00::/32 path 109 2895 (INR) 5f0d:e900:ce9c:9400::/64 path 109 1225 (CICNET) 5f0f:8800::/32 path 109 (CISCO) 5f10:8800::/32 path 109 (CISCO) 5f11:d000:cca2:e400::/64 path 109 (CISCO) Poorly Aggregated Prefixes (>24): -------------------------------- CICNET (3ffe:900::/24) had 5 route(s) 3ffe:900:1::/48 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) 3ffe:902:2::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) 3ffe:902:c::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) 3ffe:902:d::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) 3ffe:902::/32 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) SWITCH (3ffe:2000::/24) had 5 route(s) 3ffe:2024:1800::2/126 path 10566 1930 (RCCN) 3ffe:2000:0:1::/120 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 1752 5408 (GRNET) 3ffe:2024:1000:8001:8000::/80 path 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (RCCN) 3ffe:202a:1::/64 path 10566 1930 559 1836 (SIMULTAN) 3ffe:2024:1000::/36 path 561 10566 1930 (RCCN) SPRINT (3ffe:2900::/24) had 3 route(s) 3ffe:2900:a:4::/64 path 7610 1849 109 1225 8664 2839 5609 561 10566 7081 293 (ESNET) 3ffe:2900:fff3::/48 path 109 1225 1275 8319 (REGIO-DE) 3ffe:2900:5::/48 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) CSELT (3ffe:1000::/24) had 2 route(s) 3ffe:1001:1:ffff::/126 path 1225 8664 1835 1273 5539 1849 786 1103 1275 1717 137 559 1930 3251 48 5609 561 10566 7081 293 (ESNET) 3ffe:1001:1:ffff::1/126 path 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 2547 1835 1717 137 559 1930 10566 7081 293 (ESNET) CISCO (3ffe:c00::/24) had 2 route(s) 3ffe:c00:8004:1::/80 path 7610 1849 109 8176 () 3ffe:c00:8004::/48 path 7610 1849 109 8176 () UNI-C (3ffe:1400::/24) had 2 route(s) 3ffe:1402:1:1::/64 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 5539 1273 (ECRC) 3ffe:140f:1::/48 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) INFN-CNAF (3ffe:2300::/24) had 2 route(s) 3ffe:23ff::/28 path 1225 1275 559 137 8253 (DUTHNET) 3ffe:23f0::/28 path 1225 1275 1717 137 8253 (DUTHNET) BT-LABS (3ffe:2c00::/24) had 2 route(s) 3ffe:2c00:0:ffff::8/127 path 1225 1275 1717 137 8253 5408 (GRNET) 3ffe:2c00:0:ffff::9/127 path 7610 10566 5408 (GRNET) JANET (3ffe:2100::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:2101::/48 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 1752 3185 (ULANC) VBNS (3ffe:2800::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:2802::/32 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) UUNET-UK (3ffe:1100::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:1108:40a::/48 path 1225 1275 8319 5539 (SPACENET-DE) SICS (3ffe:200::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:280::/40 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) UL (3ffe:1b00::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:1b01::/32 path 561 10566 1930 (RCCN) JOIN (3ffe:400::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:400:1c0::/48 path 1225 8664 1835 1273 5539 8319 (REGIO-DE) SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:2610:2::/48 path 10566 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 8432 (TF-INET-DEV) GRNET (3ffe:2d00::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:2d00:3::/48 path 561 5408 8643 (UOA) ESNET (3ffe:700::/24) had 1 route(s) 3ffe:7c0:40::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 10566 7081 293 3152 (MREN) The Top Five Most Active Prefixes: ---------------------------------- 1. SWISSCOM (3ffe:1e00::/24) had 8119 BGP+ updates (15 unique aspaths) 1225 6175 1930 559 3303 (1410) 1225 1275 559 3303 (1333) 109 6175 1930 559 3303 (1333) 109 1225 1275 559 3303 (1322) 2500 109 6175 1930 559 3303 (1312) 2500 109 1225 1275 559 3303 (1267) 7610 5623 6175 1930 559 3303 (46) 7610 10566 1930 559 3303 (44) 561 5609 137 559 3303 (11) 561 10566 1930 559 3303 (11) 2500 33 5609 137 559 3303 (2) ...Truncated... 2. SWITCH (3ffe:2000::/24) had 7744 BGP+ updates (16 unique aspaths) 1225 6175 1930 559 (1380) 109 6175 1930 559 (1278) 1225 1275 559 (1278) 109 1225 1275 559 (1270) 2500 109 6175 1930 559 (1258) 2500 109 1225 1275 559 (1149) 7610 5623 6175 1930 559 (44) 7610 10566 1930 559 (42) 561 10566 1930 559 (9) 561 5609 137 559 (6) 561 5609 5623 559 (4) ...Truncated... 3. RCCN (3ffe:2024:1800::2/126) had 3773 BGP+ updates (14 unique aspaths) 1225 1275 559 1930 (1044) 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (751) 109 1849 7610 10566 1930 (705) 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (673) 1225 1275 1103 1849 3251 1930 (320) 1225 8664 1835 1849 3251 1930 (127) 7610 10566 1930 (40) 109 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (17) 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (14) 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (14) 109 1225 1275 1103 1849 3251 1930 (10) ...Truncated... 4. SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 3428 BGP+ updates (39 unique aspaths) 1225 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (600) 109 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (551) 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (550) 2500 109 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (548) 109 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (547) 2500 109 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (508) 7610 1849 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (18) 7610 10566 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (17) 7610 5623 6175 3274 (8) 561 5609 137 559 5623 1103 3274 (6) 7610 10566 6175 3274 (5) ...Truncated... 5. UL (3ffe:1b01::/32) had 2988 BGP+ updates (10 unique aspaths) 1225 1275 559 1930 (1337) 7610 10566 1930 (44) 2500 109 237 10566 1930 (3) 561 10566 1930 (2) 2500 5623 7610 10566 1930 (1) 10566 5408 8253 137 559 1930 (1) 109 1849 7610 10566 1930 (1) 10566 1930 (1) 109 1225 237 10566 1930 (1) 1225 109 237 10566 1930 (1) From Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Wed Oct 7 21:14:05 1998 From: Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca (Marc Blanchet) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:14:05 -0400 Subject: FW: 10/06/98 6Bone Routing Report In-Reply-To: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8100AF813C5@RED-MSG-50> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981007161405.03154790@mail.viagenie.qc.ca> For your information, this "stable/unstable" situation is seen differently depending on where you are. For example, - our pTLA site (VIAGENIE) is connected directly to merit. - we've been very careful since 6 months now to look at the merit 6bone reports and debug things when we appear in the report and fix things. For this, this report has been very useful (thanks to merit guys). We also had the opportunity to debug MRT many times. We even found bugs in the v6 kernels of some implementations that keeps our routes forever in the kernel. The consequence is that most of the time, our site is very stable and do not appear instable in the merit report. - but, the cselt guys from italy just reported at the last ietf that our site was unstable. We haven't seen those problems. In conclusion, it seems to be very related to where you are. Regards, Marc. At 09:49 98-10-07 -0700, Richard Draves wrote: >Recently it seems the 6bone has been vacillating between two states - one in >which everything looks OK (except for bogus 5f routes... will they ever go >away?) and the BGP traffic is low, and a second state in which there is a >path for the unspecified address (a problem with JOIN?) and the BGP traffic >is high. Does anyone know what's going on? > >Thanks, >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu >[mailto:owner-6bone-routing-report@merit.edu] >Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 11:41 PM >To: 6bone-routing-report@merit.edu >Subject: 10/06/98 6Bone Routing Report > > >See http://www.merit.edu/ipma for a more detailed report on routing >problems and recommendations on ways service providers can limit the >spread of invalid routing information. >Send comments and questions to ipma-support@merit.edu > >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > 6bone-routing-report-request@merit.edu. >A hypermail archive is available at > http://www.merit.net/mail.archives/html/6bone-routing-report/ > >Also see http://www.caida.org for more information about Internet >statistics collection research efforts. > >--------------------------------------------- >This report is for 10/06/98, peering with > VIAGENIE (AS10566) CISCO (AS109) CICNET (AS1225) SZCZECIN (AS1887) >WIDE (AS2500) TELEBIT (AS3263) ETRI (AS3559) EWD-3COM (AS561) NUS-IRDU >(AS7610) >--------------------------------------------- > >Size of 6Bone Routing Table: > Max = 98, Min = 96, Average = 96 > 54 Unique Autonomous System (AS) numbers > >BGP4+ Traffic Summary: > Announcements = 39966 Withdraws = 7090 Unique Routes = 76 > >Non-6Bone Prefixes (outside of 3ffe::/16): >-------------------------------- > 0000::/0 path 561 5408 8253 137 1275 (JOIN) > 1000::/4 path 561 5408 8253 137 1275 (JOIN) > 5f00:4700::/32 path 109 (CISCO) > 5f00:6d00::/32 path 109 (CISCO) > 5f01:7800::/32 path 109 1225 (CICNET) > 5f04:c500:cb26:1100::/64 path 109 (CISCO) > 5f0b:4f00::/32 path 109 2895 (INR) > 5f0d:e900:ce9c:9400::/64 path 109 1225 (CICNET) > 5f0f:8800::/32 path 109 (CISCO) > 5f10:8800::/32 path 109 (CISCO) > 5f11:d000:cca2:e400::/64 path 109 (CISCO) > >Poorly Aggregated Prefixes (>24): >-------------------------------- > CICNET (3ffe:900::/24) had 5 route(s) > 3ffe:900:1::/48 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) > 3ffe:902:2::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) > 3ffe:902:c::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) > 3ffe:902:d::/48 path 1887 (SZCZECIN) > 3ffe:902::/32 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) > > SWITCH (3ffe:2000::/24) had 5 route(s) > 3ffe:2024:1800::2/126 path 10566 1930 (RCCN) > 3ffe:2000:0:1::/120 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 1752 5408 (GRNET) > 3ffe:2024:1000:8001:8000::/80 path 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (RCCN) > 3ffe:202a:1::/64 path 10566 1930 559 1836 (SIMULTAN) > 3ffe:2024:1000::/36 path 561 10566 1930 (RCCN) > > SPRINT (3ffe:2900::/24) had 3 route(s) > 3ffe:2900:a:4::/64 path 7610 1849 109 1225 8664 2839 5609 561 10566 7081 >293 (ESNET) > 3ffe:2900:fff3::/48 path 109 1225 1275 8319 (REGIO-DE) > 3ffe:2900:5::/48 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) > > CSELT (3ffe:1000::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:1001:1:ffff::/126 path 1225 8664 1835 1273 5539 1849 786 1103 1275 >1717 137 559 1930 3251 48 5609 561 10566 7081 293 (ESNET) > 3ffe:1001:1:ffff::1/126 path 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 2547 1835 1717 137 >559 1930 10566 7081 293 (ESNET) > > CISCO (3ffe:c00::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:c00:8004:1::/80 path 7610 1849 109 8176 () > 3ffe:c00:8004::/48 path 7610 1849 109 8176 () > > UNI-C (3ffe:1400::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:1402:1:1::/64 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 5539 1273 (ECRC) > 3ffe:140f:1::/48 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) > > INFN-CNAF (3ffe:2300::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:23ff::/28 path 1225 1275 559 137 8253 (DUTHNET) > 3ffe:23f0::/28 path 1225 1275 1717 137 8253 (DUTHNET) > > BT-LABS (3ffe:2c00::/24) had 2 route(s) > 3ffe:2c00:0:ffff::8/127 path 1225 1275 1717 137 8253 5408 (GRNET) > 3ffe:2c00:0:ffff::9/127 path 7610 10566 5408 (GRNET) > > JANET (3ffe:2100::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2101::/48 path 1225 1275 1103 1849 1752 3185 (ULANC) > > VBNS (3ffe:2800::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2802::/32 path 561 10566 6509 145 1312 (LORE/VT) > > UUNET-UK (3ffe:1100::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:1108:40a::/48 path 1225 1275 8319 5539 (SPACENET-DE) > > SICS (3ffe:200::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:280::/40 path 1225 8664 (ICM-PL) > > UL (3ffe:1b00::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:1b01::/32 path 561 10566 1930 (RCCN) > > JOIN (3ffe:400::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:400:1c0::/48 path 1225 8664 1835 1273 5539 8319 (REGIO-DE) > > SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2610:2::/48 path 10566 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 8432 (TF-INET-DEV) > > GRNET (3ffe:2d00::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:2d00:3::/48 path 561 5408 8643 (UOA) > > ESNET (3ffe:700::/24) had 1 route(s) > 3ffe:7c0:40::/48 path 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 10566 7081 293 3152 >(MREN) > >The Top Five Most Active Prefixes: >---------------------------------- >1. SWISSCOM (3ffe:1e00::/24) had 8119 BGP+ updates (15 unique aspaths) > 1225 6175 1930 559 3303 (1410) > 1225 1275 559 3303 (1333) > 109 6175 1930 559 3303 (1333) > 109 1225 1275 559 3303 (1322) > 2500 109 6175 1930 559 3303 (1312) > 2500 109 1225 1275 559 3303 (1267) > 7610 5623 6175 1930 559 3303 (46) > 7610 10566 1930 559 3303 (44) > 561 5609 137 559 3303 (11) > 561 10566 1930 559 3303 (11) > 2500 33 5609 137 559 3303 (2) > ...Truncated... > >2. SWITCH (3ffe:2000::/24) had 7744 BGP+ updates (16 unique aspaths) > 1225 6175 1930 559 (1380) > 109 6175 1930 559 (1278) > 1225 1275 559 (1278) > 109 1225 1275 559 (1270) > 2500 109 6175 1930 559 (1258) > 2500 109 1225 1275 559 (1149) > 7610 5623 6175 1930 559 (44) > 7610 10566 1930 559 (42) > 561 10566 1930 559 (9) > 561 5609 137 559 (6) > 561 5609 5623 559 (4) > ...Truncated... > >3. RCCN (3ffe:2024:1800::2/126) had 3773 BGP+ updates (14 unique aspaths) > 1225 1275 559 1930 (1044) > 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (751) > 109 1849 7610 10566 1930 (705) > 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (673) > 1225 1275 1103 1849 3251 1930 (320) > 1225 8664 1835 1849 3251 1930 (127) > 7610 10566 1930 (40) > 109 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (17) > 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 1717 137 559 1930 (14) > 7610 1849 109 1225 1275 559 1930 (14) > 109 1225 1275 1103 1849 3251 1930 (10) > ...Truncated... > >4. SMS (3ffe:2600::/24) had 3428 BGP+ updates (39 unique aspaths) > 1225 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (600) > 109 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (551) > 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (550) > 2500 109 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (548) > 109 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (547) > 2500 109 1225 1275 559 5623 1103 3274 (508) > 7610 1849 6175 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (18) > 7610 10566 1930 559 5623 1103 3274 (17) > 7610 5623 6175 3274 (8) > 561 5609 137 559 5623 1103 3274 (6) > 7610 10566 6175 3274 (5) > ...Truncated... > >5. UL (3ffe:1b01::/32) had 2988 BGP+ updates (10 unique aspaths) > 1225 1275 559 1930 (1337) > 7610 10566 1930 (44) > 2500 109 237 10566 1930 (3) > 561 10566 1930 (2) > 2500 5623 7610 10566 1930 (1) > 10566 5408 8253 137 559 1930 (1) > 109 1849 7610 10566 1930 (1) > 10566 1930 (1) > 109 1225 237 10566 1930 (1) > 1225 109 237 10566 1930 (1) > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Marc Blanchet | Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca Viagénie inc. | http://www.viagenie.qc.ca 3107 des hôtels | tél.: 418-656-9254 Ste-Foy, Québec | fax.: 418-656-0183 Canada, G1W 4W5 | radio: VA2-JAZ ------------------------------------------------------------ pgp :57 86 A6 83 D3 A8 58 32 F7 0A BB BD 5F B2 4B A7 ------------------------------------------------------------ Auteur du livre TCP/IP Simplifié, Éditions Logiques, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------ From Robert Rockell Fri Oct 9 17:26:56 1998 From: Robert Rockell (Robert Rockell) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: gated/v6 compatibility issues. Message-ID: Has anyone ever run into any compatibility issues between gated and cisco 0519 code? Gated side is seeing problems with optional attributes, but I am only sending AS_PATH info. On the cisoc side, debug only show session go into open-active state, and then reset, without any icmp information. Any insight woudl be appreciated. error log from Gated below: Oct 9 18:30:00 6bone gated[78]: NOTIFICATION received from 3ffe:2900:a:b::1 (External AS 6175): code 3 (Update Message Error) subcode 1 (invalid attribute list) data 00 02 01 10 3f fe Oct 9 18:31:05 6bone gated[78]: bgp4+_recv_reach: peer 3ffe:2900:a:b::1 (External AS 6175) attribute too short (2 < 6207) Oct 9 18:31:05 6bone gated[78]: NOTIFICATION sent to 3ffe:2900:a:b::1 (External AS 6175): code 3 (Update Message Error) subcode 9 (error with optional attribute) data this is a tunnel interface, which I don't believe should make any difference. With BGP4+, are attributes mapped in the same way as bgp4 (v4)? there don't appear to be any optional attributes being passed. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprintlink Internet Service Center Operations Engineering 703-689-6322 1-800-724-3329, PIN 385-8833 From stefan@cps-i.nl Mon Oct 19 14:51:10 1998 From: stefan@cps-i.nl (Stefan Baltus) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:51:10 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Tunnel Message-ID: Hi 6bone-folk, A year ago, our company had a 6bone tunnel through Surfnet, the Netherlands. Surfnet discontinued this tunnel because of subsidy reasons. I am now looking for another 6bone connected organization that wants to setup a tunnel to us. We are running solaris 2.5.1. Thanks, Stefan Baltus Internet Aware BV The Netherlands From 6bone@starstream.co.uk Fri Oct 23 15:55:50 1998 From: 6bone@starstream.co.uk (Terry Moore-Read (6bone@starstream.co.uk)) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:55:50 +0000 Subject: 6bone via dialup link Message-ID: <98102314584902.10076@home.starstream.co.uk> Hi, I'm currently connected to the Internet via a dialup isdn link (16 static ip addresses). I'm looking into the possibility of connecting to the 6bone in some way via this link. Has anybody tried this ? Regards Terry Moore-Read 6bone@starstream.co.uk From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Fri Oct 23 16:03:25 1998 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg Levine) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:03:25 -0400 Subject: Dial-up Lines, ISPs and other problems Message-ID: <01BDFE76.130DA7E0.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> Hello from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: My company, Jedi Knight Computers, is making plans to participate in the IPv6 testing process, and of course to work with the fellows here at the 6bone site. However I have a number of questions: 1) Has anyone heard if, the ISP AT&T Worldnet is planning on making itself available for that work? 2) Is there anyone using an ordinary dial-up line from his site to participate? 3) And this goes with 2): What software is being used for such work? Please feel free to send me directly any answers, comments, or just plain anything. Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net ~~This Signature supports the Rebel Alliance to Restore The Republic~~ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes" Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pb@bieringer.de Fri Oct 23 17:54:46 1998 From: pb@bieringer.de (Peter Bieringer) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:54:46 +0200 Subject: 6bone via dialup link In-Reply-To: <98102314584902.10076@home.starstream.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981023185446.00938c60@penelope.et.unibw-muenchen.de> At 14:55 23.10.98 +0000, 6bone@starstream.co.uk wrote: >Hi, > >I'm currently connected to the Internet via a dialup isdn link (16 static ip >addresses). > >I'm looking into the possibility of connecting to the 6bone in some way via >this link. > >Has anybody tried this ? I'm using the method described here: http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/sitctrl/default.html It's for dynamic IPv4 addresses, for static it's much easier. Peter From rlfink@lbl.gov Fri Oct 23 18:43:12 1998 From: rlfink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:43:12 -0700 Subject: 6bone via dialup link In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981023185446.00938c60@penelope.et.unibw-muenche n.de> References: <98102314584902.10076@home.starstream.co.uk> Message-ID: <4.1.19981023104144.009f3460@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Peter, Given the interest in Linux IPv6 and PPP, I've put a pointer to your pages on the 6bone home page. Thanks, Bob At 06:54 PM 10/23/98 +0200, Peter Bieringer wrote: >At 14:55 23.10.98 +0000, 6bone@starstream.co.uk wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I'm currently connected to the Internet via a dialup isdn link (16 static ip >>addresses). >> >>I'm looking into the possibility of connecting to the 6bone in some way via >>this link. >> >>Has anybody tried this ? >I'm using the method described here: >http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/sitctrl/default.html > >It's for dynamic IPv4 addresses, for static it's much easier. > >Peter From pgrosset@cisco.com Fri Oct 23 21:26:04 1998 From: pgrosset@cisco.com (Patrick Grossetete) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:26:04 +0200 Subject: IPv6 on CISCO IOS 12.x Message-ID: <4.1.19981023221812.00aed390@europe.cisco.com> Dear Bernhard, As being in charge of Cisco EMEA IPv6 Technology program, I would like to clarify your statment below. It is true that today Cisco is providing in Europe, a Cisco IOS image supporting IPv6 currently based on IOS 11.3.(2)T to selected customers from academic and ISP sites under Non Disclosure Agreement. But so far, we don't expect to provide general availability of IPv6 for production network before sometimes in CY99. This will be based on Cisco IOS 12.0T but certainly not for IOS 12.0.(1)T. We may also have an easier access for the same selected customers through our web but we are still finalizing it. If you have a special need for our current IPv6 image and you are based in Europe which is obviously the case, you may send me an e-mail. Best regards Patrick >>>At 10:48 AM 10/22/98 -0700, Bob Fink wrote: >>>>>To: 6bone@isi.edu >>>>>Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:50:42 +0200 (MET DST) >>>>>Cc: ipv6-wg@ripe.net >>>>> >>>>>I do not know if cisco announced this on an official list - but I got the >>>>>information about a new Version of their IOS supporting IPv6 in a "public" >>>>>release with no beta-status. >>>>> >>>>>The new IOS 12.0 will be out in mid-november. >>>>> >>>>> Ciao >>>>> Bernhard >>>>>-- >>>>>Bernhard Kroenung, Bahnhofstr 8, 36157 Ebersburg/Rhoen, Germany +49 6656 >>>910101 >>>>>@work : bernhard@kroenung.de Work: +49 661 >>>9011777 >>>>>@home : horke@Rhoen.De @school : >>>Bernhard.Kroenung@Informatik.FH-Fulda.De _____________________________________________________________ Patrick Grossetete Consulting Engineer * * Cisco Systems EMEA * | | * Phone/Vmail: 33.1.6918 6152 * ||| ||| * Fax: 33.1.6928 8326 * ||||| ||||| * mobile: 33.6.0773 7360 * .:||||||||:...:|||||||:. * Email:pgrosset@cisco.com * Cisco Systems * * EMEA * _____________________________________________________________ From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 24 00:35:51 1998 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg Levine) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:35:51 -0400 Subject: Dial-up Lines, ISPs and other problems Message-ID: <01BDFEBC.F4E384A0.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFEBC.F4ECAC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday, October 23, 1998 2:25 PM, Jeff Taylor [SMTP:jefft@ou.edu] wrote: > Greg, > > You should start with contacting your ISP. How do you expect the > participants on this list to know specific corporate plans of your ISP? > > Jeff Taylor > > At 11:03 AM 10/23/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: > >My company, Jedi Knight Computers, is making plans to participate in the > >IPv6 testing process, and of course to work with the fellows here at the > >6bone site. However I have a number of questions: > >1) Has anyone heard if, the ISP AT&T Worldnet is planning on making itself > >available for that work? > >2) Is there anyone using an ordinary dial-up line from his site to > >participate? > >3) And this goes with 2): What software is being used for such work? > >Please feel free to send me directly any answers, comments, or just plain > >anything. > >Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net > >~~This Signature supports the Rebel Alliance to Restore The Republic~~ > >"They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became > >heroes" > >Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator Hello Jeff Taylor from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: Yes, of course. The problem is that the ISP, is still trying to find the intelligent ones to answer the questions real computer users ask them. We'll probably be doing that, in the next several weeks, after the budget is finalized for this project. Please feel free to send me directly any answers, comments, or just plain anything. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: Some news for everyone, and anyone who read my earlier posts: The ISP(AT&T Worldnet) now supports DSL, I suppose it was only a matter of time. Also, as I supposed Bell Atlantic also does, I wonder if the other RBOCs(Regional Bell Operating Companies) do, I should hope so, DSL is supposed to be what ISDN was. And look where that went!! As always, should anybody wish to comment, or complain, or just applaud, please feel free to either contact me directly, or post them on this mailing list. Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net ~~This Signature supports the Rebel Alliance to Restore The Republic~~ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes" Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFEC7.075993E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhUAAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAjAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAZQAAAAAAAAC1O8LALHcQGqG8CAArKlbCFQAAAO++p2H5YdIRhkBERVNU AAEkgQAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAEANmJvbmVAaXNpLmVkdQBTTVRQADZib25lQGlz aS5lZHUAAAAAHgACMAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAAA4AAAA2Ym9uZUBpc2kuZWR1AAAA AwAVDAEAAAADAP4PBgAAAB4AATABAAAAEAAAACc2Ym9uZUBpc2kuZWR1JwACAQswAQAAABMAAABT TVRQOjZCT05FQElTSS5FRFUAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAAeAPZfAQAAAA4AAAA2Ym9uZUBpc2ku ZWR1AAAAAgH3XwEAAAAsAAAAvwAAALU7wsAsdxAaobwIACsqVsIVAAAA776nYflh0hGGQERFU1QA ASSBAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAAAgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAmdNAQSAAQABAAAAAAAAAQWAAwAO AAAAzgcKABcAFAAxABgABQBYAQEggAMADgAAAM4HCgAXABQAKwAMAAUARgEBCYABACEAAABGQzFD NTg4QkI4NkFEMjExODY0MTAwMjBBRjAzM0NCOAAcBwEDkAYALAYAAB8AAAALAAIAAQAAAAsAIwAA AAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5ACDsGCXo/r0BAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb3+6CS9 i1gc/2q4EdKGQQAgrwM8uAAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAAB8AAABoYW5zb2xv ZmFsY29uQHdvcmxkbmV0LmF0dC5uZXQAAAMABhCUptZ4AwAHEH8CAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABIRUxM T0ZST01HUkVHR0xFVklORUFUSkVESUtOSUdIVENPTVBVVEVSUzpTT01FTkVXU0ZPUkVWRVJZT05F LEFOREFOWU9ORVdIT1JFQURNWUVBUkxJRVJQT1NUUzpUSEVJU1AoAAAAAAIBCRABAAAANwMAADMD AAAdBAAATFpGde+Gnz0DAAoAcmNwZzEyNRYyAPgLYG4OEDAzM50B9yACpANjAgBjaArA4HNldDAg B20CgwBQ8wLyENphaANxAoMOUAPUlxDZBxMCgH0KgXVjAFBDCwMLtSBIZWwJACAJA1IgRwlwZ2cg TERldguAZSBhBUBKkQmAaSBLAwBnaAVAIQhQbXB1dASQczq7CqIKgFMDcBjQGMB3BCAvAhAFwBiQ BJB5AiBlLJkY4G5kHFEcAiB3E/DKIAlwYRyAbXkbsArAgmwIkSBwb3N0GmAFEXBoGNBJU1AoQSBU JlQgVwWwbGQpGMB0KRsgbwfgc3WOcB5QACAEIERTTBxAJkkgZBEwIGkFQHdh6wQgAiBsHbBhHZAY 8BoxUSJQZiB0B3EuFaBsvHNvHEEEICFXHIBCF4FtFaB0DwEjcGMY4CPhIOxkbweQITJ3AiAEgSHg WyNRHtFvJ2EK0XUDIFKYQk9DKAERYHMoKAO7KIMYQGkCIAdAJ/NCKUTrJTEoAk8og3AEkBjwC4D/ GGAoAhniAHAIkBTwKJIgEP8mQCEzE/AoEByAE/ArkCBgXyQBIQEh4AQgJId0F7Bi5xzyGPEfAERO IhIjsRxx+QkAb2sdAQSQGNAnYBjx4ncJ8HQhIRWgBCAHQL0iIHkmcS3FHKEG4GQdsO0D8WgvsgWg bQeAAjAcQM8FsTThC1M1U2p1HnAY4PMgkAtgdWQcQAtQHWAhwb5mCeADIANQCeAvsmUh8P8nwgWg AjAA0AVAGwEZQAlw/zlQIoA1Ux5SJ1IYAAIgJ1G/LwEAwAMQK+IeAB5wLhqEbxgrEQAAgAjxZgdA OQFAaybAH7QuIuEuH+EahH62fh7ALwFTGZAp0HQIcOcuYSCGJ2JSZS/wJUEXkPkHMG5jOENBwB5w BbAY0H8ewkHAGhACYA3gP+AahCLfHsE0QTHCC4AnU3cDYCvx/wtRQoEY8UWII3IcQECDB0DPIoEn YR2wL/BjYRsBJ8HZJlEiXDvRGNBQBRBCcc8EERiABzArIHJnAHAisPcjQSPQBIFhAHAcQAZgQIHj BbASo3MxNxqEFpUUghcMARqTFiEATsAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAAMAgBD/////QAAHMIAddUfn /r0BQAAIMIAddUfn/r0BCwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAAAAADAAKACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAQhQAAAAAAAAMABYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKFAAC3DQAAHgAl gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAEAAAAOC4wAAMAJoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABG AAAAAAGFAAAAAAAACwAvgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAADADCACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAARhQAAAAAAAAMAMoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiFAAAAAAAAHgBBgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA ADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEOACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAA HgA9AAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAMADTT9NwAA4W8= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFEC7.075993E0-- From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 24 17:13:14 1998 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg Levine) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:13:14 -0400 Subject: your mail Message-ID: <01BDFF48.291DF800.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFF48.291DF800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday, October 24, 1998 4:19 AM, jbashir@interzone.org [SMTP:jbashir@interzone.org] wrote: > > > ADSL in MN is also available through US West, and RBOC as is most of the > rest of the US West metro terretories. One problem/issue is that most > RBOC implemetations so far are bridged rather than routed, which makes > things weird witht he IP's, at least a little, nothing that can be fixed, > or become a non-issue. > > One question I have, and I've read the FAQ's and gone to the sites, is the > feasability of IPv6 running parallel with IPv4 on a linux box and > connecting that to the 6bone... I'm getting mixed feelings about the whole > routing thing. Can the linux box be an ipv6 tunnel machine into the > 6bone? Or is there anouther router required? > > Hello from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: If you are running Linux then in all probabilty it should do that. I do not know enough about Linux. And I freely admit that I am still learning in the Windows world. You should ask the folks who do that sort of thing, on this mailing list. This doesn't mean you can not try it, go ahead, I freely admit to being curious about something like that. 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Please send any comments on this request either to me (rlfink@lbl.gov) or to the 6bone list. I will process this (based on comments of course) on Monday, November 9, 1998. Thanks, Bob === >Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:18:10 +0800 (CST) >From: Chen Maoke >To: rlfink@lbl.gov >Subject: pTLA request >Cc: cxing@ocean.net.edu.cn, cmk@6bone.ipv6.net.edu.cn, > huanx@6bone.ipv6.net.edu.cn, nibin@6bone.ipv6.net.edu.cn > >Dear Bob, > >We are writing to you because CERNET Center in Tsinghua University would >like to become one of the 6bone backbone sites. We are showing how CERNET >meets the criteria for pTLA assignment below. > >China Education and Research NETwork (CERNET) is the most important internet >of China in area of education and technology. The network centers (NIC and >NOC) of CERNET are laid in Tsinghua University, Beijing. Operating a >nation-wide internetwork, CERNET is active in computer networks research and >education, especially in next generation internet. > >Information about CERNET: http://www.edu.cn/ >Information about Tsinghua University: http://www.tsinghua.edu.cn/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Statement of meeting the criteria > > 1. Must have experience with IPv6 in the 6bone, at least as a leaf site, >and preferably as an NLA transit under a pTLA. > > We have begun IPv6 practice since January 1998. Our first ipv6 site -- >TH-CERNET >was registered on 6bone in June 1998. We are experimenting as: >- NLA network (3FFE:1CF9::/32) under MERIT >- leaf site (3FFE:2900:FFF5::/48) under SPRINT >- leaf site (3FFE:1108:40D::/48) under UUNET-UK > > BGP4+ peers are established with MERIT and SPRINT. > > An address prefix has been assigned for a site below our NLA and the >transit service has been provided. > > > 2. Must have the ability and intent to provide "production-like" 6bone > backbone service to provide a robust and operationally reliable 6bone > backbone. > > CERNET Center has five years' experience in constructing and operating a >nation-wide internetwork. It has providing the production-like backbone >service in the range of education and research in China. There are many >professors and post-graduates from Tsinghua University, the most important >university in China, working in the NIC or NOC of the CERNET and taking >research on computer networks. > > > 3. Must have a potential "user community" that would be served by becoming > a pTLA, e.g., the requester is a major player in a region, country or focus > of interest. > > Today CERNET has connected with over 70 cities in China, over 300 >universities, colleges, research organizations and schools. There are over >150,000 of people using the networks in CERNET everyday. > > > 4. Must commit to abide by whatever the 6bone backbone operational rules > and policies are (currently there are no formal ones, but the Alain Duran > draft is a start in trying to define some). > > CERNET is an active part in international cooperation in networking. We >will commit to abide by any 6bone backbone operational rules and policies. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Thanks, > > >Chen, Maoke >CERNET Center >Tsinghua University >Beijing, 100084 >P R of China From Allen Baranov" jbashir@interzone.org wrote: > One question I have, and I've read the FAQ's and gone to the sites, is the > feasability of IPv6 running parallel with IPv4 on a linux box and > connecting that to the 6bone... I'm getting mixed feelings about the whole > routing thing. Can the linux box be an ipv6 tunnel machine into the > 6bone? Or is there anouther router required? > > Hi, I'm a Linux devotee and I'm about to enter the world of ipv6 as soon as I get a link to the 6bone. You need to use a kernel in the 2.1 series which means you are using a development kernel which in tern means that your system may not be very reliable. ipv6 will be supported in the 2.2 kernel series (production series - reliable) which is due out sometime early next year. In other words don't run it on an important mission critical machine (or wait until next year). Linux can do ipv6 tunnelling (over ipv4) so you'd just need your connection to the Internet (ie. ipv4 connection). There is a good FAQ at http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/IPv6-HOWTO/IPv6-HOWTO.html with details about setting up a Linux ipv6 box from scratch. Lots of luck, Allen Baranov From bernard@mynet.com.my Mon Oct 26 01:52:35 1998 From: bernard@mynet.com.my (Bernard Cheah) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:52:35 +0800 Subject: Malaysia Message-ID: <00ea01be0083$4e8f9120$ca7e87ca@super.ipv6.com> Dear Sir, It's been quite a while I'm on this list. I know currently there is just 32++ country in the world are participate in the IPv6 project. I'm know my country is not ! but I certainly hope that my country will be part of it. I just wondering how would I can get involved or get more details about this IPv6 project. Thanks. Regards, Mynet Communications (M) Sdn. Bhd. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bernard Cheah (MCP, MCP+I) Internet Enginner mailto:bernard@mynet.com.my Tel:+603-795 1277 Fax:+603-795 1279 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ryan@haltech.com.au Mon Oct 26 03:50:09 1998 From: ryan@haltech.com.au (Ryan Ruckley) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:50:09 +1100 Subject: IPV6 in Australia Message-ID: <3633F171.8D00884F@haltech.com.au> Hi, I'm also a Linux devotee and I'm in the stages of getting my linux network ipv6 ready. I want to participate in the 6bone also to do real world testing of the linux ipv6 implementation but I don't know what the state of the Australia ipv6 presence if any. The Australia Digital site which was participating seems to have dissapeared. Does anyone know if there is an IPV6 presence in Australia or anywhere close netwise that I can join?? -- Ryan Ruckley Software Engineer Invent Engineering From penny@newstarresources.com Mon Oct 26 18:59:18 1998 From: penny@newstarresources.com (Penelope Baker) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:59:18 -0500 Subject: 6bone via dialup link Message-ID: <817E498B912CD111A50200805F06045210F7F3@newstar.newstarresources.com> Has anybody done this for the Windows platform yet? Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I believe theres a stack that support IPv6 for NT available from MS research? Peace, Penelope -----Original Message----- From: Bob Fink To: pb@bieringer.de Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU Sent: 10/23/1998 1:43 PM Subject: Re: 6bone via dialup link Peter, Given the interest in Linux IPv6 and PPP, I've put a pointer to your pages on the 6bone home page. Thanks, Bob At 06:54 PM 10/23/98 +0200, Peter Bieringer wrote: >At 14:55 23.10.98 +0000, 6bone@starstream.co.uk wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I'm currently connected to the Internet via a dialup isdn link (16 static ip >>addresses). >> >>I'm looking into the possibility of connecting to the 6bone in some way via >>this link. >> >>Has anybody tried this ? >I'm using the method described here: >http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/sitctrl/default.html > >It's for dynamic IPv4 addresses, for static it's much easier. > >Peter From richdr@microsoft.com Mon Oct 26 20:25:27 1998 From: richdr@microsoft.com (Richard Draves) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:25:27 -0800 Subject: 6bone via dialup link Message-ID: <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D8100AF81515@RED-MSG-50> > Has anybody done this for the Windows platform yet? Forgive me if I'm > mistaken, but I believe theres a stack that support IPv6 for NT > available from MS research? Yes, see http://research.microsoft.com/msripv6. But we don't yet support PPP or dial-up links. Rich From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 26 23:19:33 1998 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg Levine) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:19:33 -0500 Subject: 6bone via dialup link Message-ID: <01BE010D.4D6638A0.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE010D.4D6638A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: Yes indeed there is just such a stack, you can download the sources, or even working(!) binaries for WinNT4. I do not know if you plan on supporting it on WinNT4 on Intel, or Win95/98, or what, but there it is. If you want the url, please write me privately. Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net ~~This Signature supports the Rebel Alliance to Restore The Republic~~ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes" Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator On Monday, October 26, 1998 1:59 PM, Penelope Baker [SMTP:penny@newstarresources.com] wrote: > Has anybody done this for the Windows platform yet? Forgive me if I'm > mistaken, but I believe theres a stack that support IPv6 for NT > available from MS research? > > Peace, > Penelope > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Fink > To: pb@bieringer.de > Cc: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Sent: 10/23/1998 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: 6bone via dialup link > > Peter, > > Given the interest in Linux IPv6 and PPP, I've put a pointer to your > pages on the 6bone home page. > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > At 06:54 PM 10/23/98 +0200, Peter Bieringer wrote: > >At 14:55 23.10.98 +0000, 6bone@starstream.co.uk wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm currently connected to the Internet via a dialup isdn link (16 > static ip > >>addresses). > >> > >>I'm looking into the possibility of connecting to the 6bone in some > way via > >>this link. > >> > >>Has anybody tried this ? > >I'm using the method described here: > >http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/sitctrl/default.html > > > >It's for dynamic IPv4 addresses, for static it's much easier. > > > >Peter ------ 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<817E498B912CD111A50200805F06045210F7F6@newstar.newstarresources.com> I meant has anybody written up a how-to for Win PPP, but since it's not supported yet, that answers that. Thanks! I'm assuming when it does support dial-up or PPP an announcement will be posted to this listserv? Peace, Penelope -----Original Message----- From: Richard Draves To: 'Penelope Baker' Cc: '6bone@ISI.EDU ' Sent: 10/26/1998 3:25 PM Subject: RE: 6bone via dialup link > Has anybody done this for the Windows platform yet? Forgive me if I'm > mistaken, but I believe theres a stack that support IPv6 for NT > available from MS research? Yes, see http://research.microsoft.com/msripv6. But we don't yet support PPP or dial-up links. Rich From hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net Tue Oct 27 01:31:18 1998 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg Levine) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:31:18 -0500 Subject: 6bone via dialup link Message-ID: <01BE011F.A39641E0.hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE011F.A39F69A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Richard Draves from Gregg Levine at Jedi Knight Computers: Did you by chance see my post? It contains a mention regarding your research site, it was my intention to send it, via a private email to the lady. Just the same I would rather that you do so, it would seem more appropriate that way. Please feel free to write back, with comments, or complaints, or what ever. Gregg Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net ~~This Signature supports the Rebel Alliance to Restore The Republic~~ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes" Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator On Monday, October 26, 1998 3:25 PM, Richard Draves [SMTP:richdr@microsoft.com] wrote: > > Has anybody done this for the Windows platform yet? Forgive me if I'm > > mistaken, but I believe theres a stack that support IPv6 for NT > > available from MS research? > > Yes, see http://research.microsoft.com/msripv6. 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I want to participate in the 6bone also >to do real world testing of the linux ipv6 implementation but I >don't know what the state of the Australia ipv6 presence if any. > >The Australia Digital site which was participating seems to have >dissapeared. Does anyone know if there is an IPV6 presence in >Australia or anywhere close netwise that I can join?? Take a look at the country list pages for sites on the 6bone: http://www.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk/ipv6/6Bone/Whois/bycountry.html There are several AU sites. Bob From rlfink@lbl.gov Fri Oct 30 15:22:17 1998 From: rlfink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:22:17 -0800 Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items Message-ID: <4.1.19981030071946.017d2180@cnrmail.lbl.gov> We are now planning for the Orlando IETF meetings, so I need input on topics anyone might wish to cover at the ngtrans meeting. Please send your agenda suggestions either to me privately or to the ngtrans list. Thanks, Bob From Robert Rockell Fri Oct 30 17:13:32 1998 From: Robert Rockell (Robert Rockell) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:13:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981030071946.017d2180@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: I think it is time for some sort of reccommended filter policy to be discussed, as most people out there (some of which who perform bad-route reports, yet don't filter their downstreams) are not using filters in place. For instance, I make the bad routing report every day in Merit's report, but my AS never shows up in the route's originating path). I don't know if this should be added to the soon-to-be-expired draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-routing-01.tx paper, or put somewhere else, but I think it is time that this is more strictly enforced. Filtering via route-map on cisco products works well, but I don't know that it is widely implemented (Backbone experience, or other reasons). If we are going to model the 6bone after real life, I think that this is going to be a crucial issue (especially if we are going to tackle the multi-homing problem; without filters, no one is encouraged to work on it, as both /48's are wandering around the backbone for a downstream in many instances...) Just opinions. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprintlink Internet Service Center Operations Engineering 703-689-6322 1-800-724-3329, PIN 385-8833 On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Bob Fink wrote: ->We are now planning for the Orlando IETF meetings, so I need input on topics anyone might wish to cover at the ngtrans meeting. -> ->Please send your agenda suggestions either to me privately or to the ngtrans list. -> -> ->Thanks, -> ->Bob -> From rlfink@lbl.gov Fri Oct 30 17:28:21 1998 From: rlfink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:28:21 -0800 Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19981030071946.017d2180@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: <4.1.19981030092419.018a87a0@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Rob, At 12:13 PM 10/30/98 -0500, Robert Rockell wrote: >I think it is time for some sort of reccommended filter policy to be >discussed, as most people out there (some of which who perform bad-route >reports, yet don't filter their downstreams) are not using filters in place. >For instance, I make the bad routing report every day in Merit's report, but >my AS never shows up in the route's originating path). >I don't know if this should be added to the soon-to-be-expired >draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-routing-01.tx paper, or put somewhere else, but I >think it is time that this is more strictly enforced. > >Filtering via route-map on cisco products works well, but I don't know that >it is widely implemented (Backbone experience, or other reasons). > >If we are going to model the 6bone after real life, I think that this is >going to be a crucial issue (especially if we are going to tackle the >multi-homing problem; without filters, no one is encouraged to work on it, >as both /48's are wandering around the backbone for a downstream in many >instances...) I will happily add this to the agenda, and would very much like it discussed. I would apreciate it if you would present your ideas and background of your point of view in a short (5-10 minute) presentation. Thanks, Bob From rrockell@sprint.net Fri Oct 30 21:00:41 1998 From: rrockell@sprint.net (Robert Rockell) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:00:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981030092419.018a87a0@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: Sure. I can do that. Let me know what timeslot I am in. Thanks Rob Rockell Sprintlink Internet Service Center Operations Engineering 703-689-6322 1-800-724-3329, PIN 385-8833 On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Bob Fink wrote: ->Rob, -> ->At 12:13 PM 10/30/98 -0500, Robert Rockell wrote: ->>I think it is time for some sort of reccommended filter policy to be ->>discussed, as most people out there (some of which who perform bad-route ->>reports, yet don't filter their downstreams) are not using filters in place. ->>For instance, I make the bad routing report every day in Merit's report, but ->>my AS never shows up in the route's originating path). ->>I don't know if this should be added to the soon-to-be-expired ->>draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-routing-01.tx paper, or put somewhere else, but I ->>think it is time that this is more strictly enforced. ->> ->>Filtering via route-map on cisco products works well, but I don't know that ->>it is widely implemented (Backbone experience, or other reasons). ->> ->>If we are going to model the 6bone after real life, I think that this is ->>going to be a crucial issue (especially if we are going to tackle the ->>multi-homing problem; without filters, no one is encouraged to work on it, ->>as both /48's are wandering around the backbone for a downstream in many ->>instances...) -> ->I will happily add this to the agenda, and would very much like it discussed. I would apreciate it if you would present your ideas and background of your point of view in a short (5-10 minute) presentation. -> -> ->Thanks, -> ->Bob -> From rlfink@lbl.gov Fri Oct 30 21:25:44 1998 From: rlfink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:25:44 -0800 Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19981030092419.018a87a0@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: <4.1.19981030132516.018b8810@cnrmail.lbl.gov> At 04:00 PM 10/30/98 -0500, Robert Rockell wrote: >Sure. I can do that. Let me know what timeslot I am in. Great, you are on the agenda. Bob === >On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Bob Fink wrote: > >->Rob, >-> >->At 12:13 PM 10/30/98 -0500, Robert Rockell wrote: >->>I think it is time for some sort of reccommended filter policy to be >->>discussed, as most people out there (some of which who perform bad-route >->>reports, yet don't filter their downstreams) are not using filters in place. >->>For instance, I make the bad routing report every day in Merit's report, but >->>my AS never shows up in the route's originating path). >->>I don't know if this should be added to the soon-to-be-expired >->>draft-ietf-ngtrans-6bone-routing-01.tx paper, or put somewhere else, but I >->>think it is time that this is more strictly enforced. >->> >->>Filtering via route-map on cisco products works well, but I don't know that >->>it is widely implemented (Backbone experience, or other reasons). >->> >->>If we are going to model the 6bone after real life, I think that this is >->>going to be a crucial issue (especially if we are going to tackle the >->>multi-homing problem; without filters, no one is encouraged to work on it, >->>as both /48's are wandering around the backbone for a downstream in many >->>instances...) >-> >->I will happily add this to the agenda, and would very much like it >discussed. I would apreciate it if you would present your ideas and >background of your point of view in a short (5-10 minute) presentation. >-> >-> >->Thanks, >-> >->Bob >-> From rzm@icm.edu.pl Sat Oct 31 03:55:16 1998 From: rzm@icm.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:55:16 +0100 Subject: call for Orlando IETF agenda items In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Rockell on Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 12:13:32PM -0500 References: <4.1.19981030071946.017d2180@cnrmail.lbl.gov> Message-ID: <19981031045516.C15243@icm.edu.pl> On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 12:13:32PM -0500, Robert Rockell wrote: > If we are going to model the 6bone after real life, I think that this is > going to be a crucial issue (especially if we are going to tackle the > multi-homing problem; without filters, no one is encouraged to work on it, > as both /48's are wandering around the backbone for a downstream in many > instances...) I'm reading again the September discussion ('routing policy questions') and still don't see any alternative to real BGP. I understand that resticted policy makes the tables size much smaller and this is very important but there must be some way to not to loose most of advantages of multihoming. My imagination is to little to find it out myself. One of the answers I've heard is router renumbering but it is still much less than real (BGP propagated) multihoming even if we'd be technically able to renumber our nets every few minutes. So what's the answer - or there is none yet and the problem is waiting for somebody able to solve it smart? R.