From RLFink@lbl.gov Thu Dec 4 02:12:02 1997 From: RLFink@lbl.gov (Bob Fink) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:12:02 -0800 Subject: (ngtrans) Agenda for ngtrans working group meeting in DC In-Reply-To: <199712040042.QAA16341@wile-e-coyote.cs.washington.edu> References: <3485F764.4890530@freegate.com> (message from Bob Gilligan on Wed, 03 Dec 1997 16:20:53 -0800) Message-ID: Everyone should note that the ngtrans meeting (which includes the 6bone stuff) is on Tuesday: TUESDAY, December 9, 1997 1300-1400 Afternoon Sessions I Palladian OPS ngtrans Next Generation Transition WG 1415-1515 Afternoon Sessions II Palladian OPS ngtrans Next Generation Transition WG Thanks, Bob Fink > Here is the agenda for the ngtrans working group meeting next week: > > Transition tools: > New revision of transition mechanisms spec / Gilligan / 15 > minutes > NAT-PT and associated components / Tsirtsis / 10 minutes > NNAT discussion / Bound / 20 min > New revision of SIIT document / Nordmark / 5 minutes > Translator proposal / Tsuchiya / 20 minutes > NARA translator proposal / Yamamoto / 15 minutes > > 6bone reports: > Status of action items from Munich / Fink / 5 mins > Address delegation by 6bone registry / Kessens / 10 mins > Status report of the 6bone / Fink / 10 mins > WIDE 6bone Report / WIDE rep / 10 mins > CAIRN Backbone plans / Mankin / 5 mins ? > Operational issues on the 6bone / various / 10 mins > Backbone planning / Fink, Durand, Crosby / 20 mins > What's the next step for the 6bone? / Fink / 5 mins > > Note that our 2 hour and 15 minute slot is oversubscribed by a bit, so > we will be looking to squeeze the time of some presentations. > > See you in DC! > > Bob. From lxia@eecs.wsu.edu Thu Dec 4 07:34:17 1997 From: lxia@eecs.wsu.edu (Lin Xia) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 23:34:17 -0800 Subject: Connection request Message-ID: <34865CF9.58E9@eecs.wsu.edu> Hi, I am a graduate student in Computer Science at Washington State University. We are interested in connecting to the 6bone to setup a testbed to play with IPv6 and test Gigabit ethernet over IPv6. We now have several Pentium PCs running Linux. According to the 6bone diagram, I guess the closest tunnel endpoint for us is University of Washington. But how can I get the connection? And what should I use as the ASN field in order to calculate the RFC1897 testing address? Any help would be much appreciated. ********************************************************* * Xia, Lin * * School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science * * Washington State University * * PO Box 2065, Pullman, WA 99165-2065 * * Phone: (509)333-3262(h) (509)335-1340(o) * * Email:lxia@eecs.wsu.edu * ********************************************************* From mohacsi@fsz.bme.hu Thu Dec 4 10:31:51 1997 From: mohacsi@fsz.bme.hu (Janos Mohacsi) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:31:51 +0100 (MET) Subject: Connection request In-Reply-To: <34865CF9.58E9@eecs.wsu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Lin Xia wrote: > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 23:34:17 -0800 > From: Lin Xia > To: 6bone@ISI.EDU > Subject: Connection request > > Hi, > > I am a graduate student in Computer Science at Washington > State University. We are interested in connecting to the > 6bone to setup a testbed to play with IPv6 and test Gigabit > ethernet over IPv6. We now have several Pentium PCs running > Linux. According to the 6bone diagram, I guess the closest > tunnel endpoint for us is University of Washington. But how > can I get the connection? And what should I use as the ASN > field in order to calculate the RFC1897 testing address? Forget the RFC1897. New addressing scheme (Aggregation-based Unicast test address) is being used to connect to 6bone (See http://www.6bone.net/6bone_hookup.html). Find a backbone site or an apropiate transit site to connect. Cheers, Janos Mohacsi From Matthias.Bitterlich@bam.de Thu Dec 4 11:58:14 1997 From: Matthias.Bitterlich@bam.de (Bitterlich, Matthias) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:58:14 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19971204115814.AAA6089@sv0004.rz.bam.de> Hi you 6boners out there! Can someone provide me with some base knowledge about IPv6. What I had in mind was something like RFCs or any other documents. Thanks for your help M. Bitterlich From magnus@aladdin.se Thu Dec 4 20:07:43 1997 From: magnus@aladdin.se (Magnus Ahltorp) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:07:43 +0100 (MET) Subject: AS number Message-ID: On the 6bone, ordinary AS numbers are used for the BGP4 routing information interchange. This is a problem, since to be something else than an ordinary leaf site requires an AS number. This means that "in the real world" (i.e. the IPv4 community) you have to have an AS number of your own. In IPv4, our site (STACKEN) is connected via SUNET, and so is SICS. SICS is for now STACKEN's only entry point to the 6bone. SICS uses the SUNET-KTH AS number, which is also the AS number we could use. Would it be possible to use a "temporary" or "reserved" AS number for the routing? I have spoken with my "provider", and they say that it is virtually impossible to get a real AS number. In fact, that is not what I need. Have anyone got any bright ideas around this? From junkins@nwnet.net Thu Dec 4 22:09:27 1997 From: junkins@nwnet.net (Doug Junkins) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:09:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Connection request In-Reply-To: <34865CF9.58E9@eecs.wsu.edu> Message-ID: Lin, We can set up a tunnel for you and assign some address space from our pTLA. Our core 6Bone router is one hop from the washington education network that WSU gets service from. Send me a private email with your tunnel endpoint IP address and I'll get it configured. -Doug On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Lin Xia wrote: > Hi, > > I am a graduate student in Computer Science at Washington > State University. We are interested in connecting to the > 6bone to setup a testbed to play with IPv6 and test Gigabit > ethernet over IPv6. We now have several Pentium PCs running > Linux. According to the 6bone diagram, I guess the closest > tunnel endpoint for us is University of Washington. But how > can I get the connection? And what should I use as the ASN > field in order to calculate the RFC1897 testing address? > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > ********************************************************* > * Xia, Lin * > * School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science * > * Washington State University * > * PO Box 2065, Pullman, WA 99165-2065 * > * Phone: (509)333-3262(h) (509)335-1340(o) * > * Email:lxia@eecs.wsu.edu * > ********************************************************* > From lalle@sics.se Mon Dec 8 15:26:30 1997 From: lalle@sics.se (Lars Albertsson) Date: 08 Dec 1997 16:26:30 +0100 Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: Magnus Ahltorp's message of Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:38:01 +0100 (MET) References: Message-ID: > Today, our site (STACKEN) connected to SICS. I would like to do some > research on routing issues aswell as some development, and therefore > I would like to connect to some other 6bone site. > > Would anyone want to setup a tunnel between them and our site? > Topologically, we are very close to the swedish IPv4 central point of > connection, and geographically we are located in Stockholm, Sweden. > > What should I take into consideration when having several routes to the > backbone? What routing protocols are recommended to use? BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems, so you should use some combination of BGP4+ and static routes. Lalle, SICS From bmanning@ISI.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:51:24 1997 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (Bill Manning) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:51:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: from "Lars Albertsson" at Dec 8, 97 04:26:30 pm Message-ID: <199712082051.MAA00419@zephyr.isi.edu> > > Would anyone want to setup a tunnel between them and our site? > > Topologically, we are very close to the swedish IPv4 central point of > > connection, and geographically we are located in Stockholm, Sweden. > > > > What should I take into consideration when having several routes to the > > backbone? What routing protocols are recommended to use? > > BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems, so you should use some > combination of BGP4+ and static routes. > > Lalle, SICS :) or use ripng and statics! :) -- --bill From Alain.Durand@imag.fr Wed Dec 10 21:08:42 1997 From: Alain.Durand@imag.fr (Alain Durand) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:08:42 +0100 (MET) Subject: followup meeting Message-ID: <199712102108.WAA16053@rama.imag.fr> There will be a followup meeting tomorrow 11:30 AM, same room (palladium) to talk about multu-homing issues. - Alain. From bc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 20:03:02 1997 From: bc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Ben Crosby) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 20:03:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Washington DC NGTRANS/6Bone Additional Session... Message-ID: Hi all, Due to the limited time we have had for 6bone issues, there will be an extra session on the 11th of December in the Palladian Room, at 11.30 am, just like the one we held today. Anyone is welcome to attend, and this will be a technical discussion continuing on from where we left off today, issues including Dimitri's ::/96 proposal, and the multi-homing stuff that I presented with Alain Durand today. Bob has asked me to stress that nothing here will be decided definately without being opened up to the list for discussion first, and that if anyone not in Washington has issues that they wish us to bring up, please mail them into the list. Two specific issues brought up were the suggestion about continued routing of 5fxx addresses, and the status of those sites that have not maintained their registry entries since the automatic conversion. I'm sure that Bob will post full minutes sometime soon. Cheers, Ben. From pink@fsz.bme.hu Fri Dec 12 09:02:01 1997 From: pink@fsz.bme.hu (Szabolcs Szigeti (PinkPanther)) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:02:01 +0100 (MET) Subject: IPv6 on cisco? Message-ID: Hi, We have the following Cisco routers: 2513, 2501, 2509 and 3620. I would like to know if it is possible to run ipv6 on them, and if yes, what do i have to do to obtain the software. Sorry, if it's a bit off topic, i asked Cisco, but didn't get any answer. Thanks, Szabolcs From thomas@msaeur.army.mil Fri Dec 12 12:26:35 1997 From: thomas@msaeur.army.mil (Thomas Hoffecker) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:26:35 +0100 Subject: IPv6 on Windows NT Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971212132635.0096ee30@204.218.208.5> Sorry, if this is off topic. Does anyone know of an IPv6 stack for Windows NT 4.0? TIA Thomas From mankin@ISI.EDU Sat Dec 13 05:11:16 1997 From: mankin@ISI.EDU (Allison Mankin) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:11:16 EST Subject: Call for Participation: Feb 12-13 TRAIL Workshop on IPng Research Message-ID: <199712130509.FAA14970@east.isi.edu> The National Science Foundation and USC/ISI East will present the second TRAIL Workshop, IPng Research, 12-13 February 1998, at the NSF, in Arlington, Virginia. The workshop agenda will include presentations and discussions of submitted short papers, along with special sessions on recent developments, mobility, and the TRAIL (Testbed Routers for Advanced Internet Labs) packages. Researchers interested in participating must submit a two-page mini white paper or mini position paper. Suitable topics are: new technologies building on IPv6 capabilities; IPv6 hands-on experiments; IPv6 research software or tools; or evolutionary/ revolutionary internetworking. Please label your submission with one or more of these topic names. The submissions will be used to select up to 25 participants. Some of the presentations from the first TRAIL Workshop, IPv6 Hands-On Network Research, are available from http://trail.isi.edu. Important Information: Mini White Paper Submission Deadline 22 December 1997 Notification of Acceptance 28 December 1997 Workshop 12-13 February 1998 Submissions should be emailed as ASCII texts, HTML, Postscript, or MIME attachments of Word documents, to: Allison Mankin, mankin@east.isi.edu Darleen Fisher, dlfisher@nsf.gov Suzanne Burgess, sburgess@east.isi.edu Requests for more informations should be addressed to mankin@east.isi.edu or sburgess@east.isi.edu. From roque@cisco.com Sun Dec 14 06:50:16 1997 From: roque@cisco.com (Pedro Marques) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 22:50:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199712140650.WAA01867@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Albertsson writes: Lars> BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems Could you please be more specific ? Pedro. From seidmann@dcs.elf.stuba.sk Mon Dec 15 07:52:36 1997 From: seidmann@dcs.elf.stuba.sk (Thomas Seidmann) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:52:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: IPv6 on Windows NT In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971212132635.0096ee30@204.218.208.5> Message-ID: Hi Thomas, we (a couple of students and me) are working on an TDI implementation of IPv6 for Windows NT 4.0. The code will be public, although probably not before May'98. Cheers, Thomas ========================================================== Dipl.-Ing. Thomas Seidmann Department of Computer Science and Engineering Faculty of Electric Engineering and Information Technology Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava Ilkovicova 3, SK-81217 Bratislava mailto:seidmann@dcs.elf.stuba.sk mailto:tseidmann@simultan.ch Tel +421.7.791153 Fax +421.7.720415 ========================================================== On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Thomas Hoffecker wrote: > Sorry, if this is off topic. > > Does anyone know of an IPv6 stack for Windows NT 4.0? > > TIA > > Thomas > From lalle@sics.se Mon Dec 15 19:06:32 1997 From: lalle@sics.se (Lars Albertsson) Date: 15 Dec 1997 20:06:32 +0100 Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: Pedro Marques's message of Sat, 13 Dec 1997 22:50:16 -0800 (PST) References: <199712140650.WAA01867@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> Message-ID: > Lars> BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems > > Could you please be more specific ? I'm afraid I can't, but as far as I know, most router implementations have problems running BGP4+ in combination with RIPng successfully. However, I do not know whether this is caused by the specifications or the implementations, nor whether it has changed. Do you know? /Lalle From roque@cisco.com Mon Dec 15 19:12:39 1997 From: roque@cisco.com (Pedro Marques) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:12:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: References: <199712140650.WAA01867@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> Message-ID: <199712151912.LAA02483@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Albertsson writes: Lars> BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems >> Could you please be more specific ? Lars> I'm afraid I can't, but as far as I know, most router Lars> implementations have problems running BGP4+ in combination Lars> with RIPng successfully. As far as i'm aware most people that run cisco boxes use both bgp4+ and rip... that is for instance the case of our own test box. I'm not aware of any problems at all... and usually our testers are pretty good at informing me about those issues ;-) Lars> However, I do not know whether this Lars> is caused by the specifications or the implementations, nor Lars> whether it has changed. Do you know? It still isn't clear to me that there is a problem. Pedro. From stuart@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 15 19:49:17 1997 From: stuart@pa.dec.com (Stephen Stuart) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 11:49:17 -0800 Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 15 Dec 97 11:12:39 -0800. <199712151912.LAA02483@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> Message-ID: <9712151949.AA14263@nsl-too.pa.dec.com> > As far as i'm aware most people that run cisco boxes use both bgp4+ and > rip... that is for instance the case of our own test box. I'm not aware > of any problems at all... and usually our testers are pretty good at > informing me about those issues ;-) My cisco 7206 runs both BGP4+ and RIPng and I am not aware of any problems. Lars, perhaps it would help if you told us how you acquired the opinion that "most router implementations have problems running BGP4+ in combination with RIPng successfully." You seem to state it as fact, and I, for one, have experience configuring and running two router implementations that do not have the problem that you allege exists. I have BGP4+ peering sessions with other implementations that lead me to believe that they also do not have the problems you allege. Stephen From lalle@sics.se Mon Dec 15 20:05:54 1997 From: lalle@sics.se (Lars Albertsson) Date: 15 Dec 1997 21:05:54 +0100 Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: Stephen Stuart's message of Mon, 15 Dec 97 11:49:17 -0800 References: <9712151949.AA14263@nsl-too.pa.dec.com> Message-ID: > > As far as i'm aware most people that run cisco boxes use both bgp4+ and > > rip... that is for instance the case of our own test box. I'm not aware > > of any problems at all... and usually our testers are pretty good at > > informing me about those issues ;-) > > My cisco 7206 runs both BGP4+ and RIPng and I am not aware of any > problems. > > Lars, perhaps it would help if you told us how you acquired the > opinion that "most router implementations have problems running BGP4+ > in combination with RIPng successfully." You seem to state it as fact, > and I, for one, have experience configuring and running two router > implementations that do not have the problem that you allege exists. I > have BGP4+ peering sessions with other implementations that lead me to > believe that they also do not have the problems you allege. I said "as far as I know", which should not be interpreted as a fact. I have heard of problems from different sources, but I do not know any details or which implementations were used. If you have not heard of any problems, I suppose there no longer are any. I'll get back if I am able to verify any problems. /Lalle From dorian@blackrose.org Mon Dec 15 21:32:49 1997 From: dorian@blackrose.org (Dorian R. Kim) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:32:49 -0500 Subject: Multiple links In-Reply-To: ; from Lars Albertsson on Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 08:06:32PM +0100 References: <199712140650.WAA01867@pedrom-ultra.cisco.com> Message-ID: <19971215163249.21942@blackrose.org> On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 08:06:32PM +0100, Lars Albertsson wrote: > > > Lars> BGP4+ and RIPng have interoperability problems > > > > Could you please be more specific ? > > I'm afraid I can't, but as far as I know, most router implementations > have problems running BGP4+ in combination with RIPng > successfully. However, I do not know whether this is caused by the > specifications or the implementations, nor whether it has changed. Do > you know? Operational experience with at least one vendor's implementation suggests that there are no problem with running BGP4+ in combination with RIPng. Whether you want to run RIPng for anything other than IGP purposes is a different matter. :) -dorian From lacertus@arenque.dgsca.unam.mx Thu Dec 18 19:10:54 1997 From: lacertus@arenque.dgsca.unam.mx (Bolo Lacertus) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:10:54 -0600 Subject: First Message Message-ID: <3499753E.332C8CB1@arenque.dgsca.unam.mx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A1848F04B0FED88BFE1481FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings!!! = This is my first message to the list and i hope it's not out of scope. We have installed IPv6 software in some of our machines (and even put the httpd to work) but we would really like to connect to the 6 bone in order to try this new protocol, we are currently working in an DNS for our IPv6 machines, and we expect it to be ready for our connection to the 6Bone. We would really apretiate anyone who could be on the other side of a tunnel, we are in Mexico (in the National Autonomous University of M=E9xico) and our international connections emerge in Texas (if someone wants to know by witch company an the precise organization i would be happy to tell you). Since there seems to be no one in M=E9xico already with IPv6 i really don=B4t know who would be the most appropiate point to send the tunnel to= , so, at least for a start, we can connect to anyone willing to. And in the future, as IPv6 Users begin to appear en M=E9xico, form a more appropiate structure. Thanks in advance: Daniel Sol Llaven Bolo Lacertus: lacertus@servidor.dgsca.unam.mx =3D=3D~\___\ http://132.248.71.81/cgi-bin/lacertus/hola =3D__vvvv -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/GE/GED d>d? s:+ a-- C++>+++$ US++ P+++>++++$ L E? W++>+++ N+ o? K- = w--- O !M V- PS+ PE->-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5? X- R@ tv-- b++>- DI+ D+ G+>++ e+>++ = h* r-(*) z+ = ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ --------------A1848F04B0FED88BFE1481FA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <349174C0.6179C43C@servidor.dgsca.unam.mx> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:30:40 -0600 From: Bolo Lacertus Organization: Coordinacion de Prospeccion y Coordinacion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lista 6Bone <6bone@ISI.EDU> Subject: First Message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings!!! Thi is my first message to the list and i hope it's not out of scope. We have installed IPv6 software in some of our machines (and even put the httpd to work) but we would really like to connect to the 6 bone in order to really try this new protocol, we are currently working in an DNS for our IPv6 machines, and we expect it to be ready for our connection to the 6Bone. We would relly appretiate anyone who could be on the other side of a tunnel, we are in Mexico (in the National Autonomous University of M=E9xico) and our international connections emerge in Texas (if someone wants to know by witch company an the precise organization i would be happy to tell you). Thnaks in advance: Daniel Sol Llaven -- = Bolo Lacertus: lacertus@servidor.dgsca.unam.mx =3D=3D~\___\ http://132.248.71.81/cgi-bin/lacertus/hola =3D__vvvv -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/GE/GED d>d? s:+ a-- C++>+++$ US++ P+++>++++$ L E? W++>+++ N+ o? K- = w--- O !M V- PS+ PE->-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5? X- R@ tv-- b++>- DI+ D+ G+>++ e+>++ = h* r-(*) z+ = ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ --------------A1848F04B0FED88BFE1481FA-- From Adam_Fleming@notes.ntrs.com Mon Dec 22 22:35:46 1997 From: Adam_Fleming@notes.ntrs.com (Adam Fleming) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:35:46 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <86256575.007B84F9.00@chi-g02.ntrs.com> I live in Chicago, USA. According to the 6bone backbone site list, I should hook up to either CICNET/US-IL or MREN/US-IL. How would I actually contact the organization to request connectivity? Adam From crawdad@fnal.gov Mon Dec 22 23:21:52 1997 From: crawdad@fnal.gov (Matt Crawford) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:21:52 -0600 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:35:46 CST. <86256575.007B84F9.00@chi-g02.ntrs.com> Message-ID: <199712222321.RAA04380@gungnir.fnal.gov> > I live in Chicago, USA. According to the 6bone backbone site list, I should > hook up to either CICNET/US-IL or MREN/US-IL. How would I actually contact > the organization to request connectivity? For CICNET, look them up in whois, or get their 6bone entry through the 6bone home page. For MREN, you just did. Tell me privately how your site is connected to the internet. ___________________________________________________________________ Matt Crawford crawdad@fnal.gov Fermilab PGP2 0x566F63C5 - D5 27 83 7A 25 25 7D FB 09 3C BA 33 71 C4 DA 6A PGP5 0xC175B1C3 - 74AC 501A 450B F479 C2AF 03B0 7BA5 F5B1 1D6E 65C1 From bmanning@ISI.EDU Tue Dec 23 11:50:15 1997 From: bmanning@ISI.EDU (bmanning@ISI.EDU) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 03:50:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mailer administrivia Message-ID: <199712231150.AA28749@zed.isi.edu> So list members, here is one more chance to voice your concerns over a policy issue. Please let me (not the list) know if you would like me to remove the current restriction on posting. The 6bone list has been moved to majordomo. The "normal" configuration here is to restrict postings to list members. One group (WIDE) is asking for that restriction to be removed. You have three choices: Yes - remove the restriction No - keep the restriction No Response - Keep the restriction. There are 877 subscribers to this list. I'll take comments/votes for the next two weeks and will post the results (and make the changes, if any) to the list on 06 Jan 1998. I would like at least a 10% response. Thanks for your time > To: Kazu@Mew.org (Kazu Yamamoto) > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:20:07 -0800 (PST) > Cc: bmanning@ISI.EDU, RLFink@lbl.gov > In-Reply-To: <19971222180018L.kazu@Mew.org> from "Kazu Yamamoto" at Dec 22, 97 06:00:18 pm > > > > WIDE project created 6bone-jp@wide.ad.jp for those who live in > > Japan(including non-WIDE members). We will subscribe this ml to > > 6bone@isi.edu. > > > > One problem is that members of 6bone-jp cannot post to 6bone@isi.edu > > if they are subscribed to 6bone-jp only. May I ask you to remove the > > limitation of 6bone@isi.edu so that the members of 6bone-jp can post > > to 6bone? > > > > --Kazu, WIDE Project > > > > Due to the prevalence of individuals who will abuse mailing lists by posting > off topic discussion, we have restricted the 6bone such that only those > whom are members may post. What you are asking for is a removal of this > restriction, which will allow all list members to be regaled with > off topic and in-appropriate mailings. If this is really what you desire, > I will ask the list membership if they are willing to tolerate this > behaviour. If the answer to both questions is in the affirmative, I'll > remove the restriction. > > --bill -- bill "When in doubt, Twirl..." -anon From labovit@merit.edu Tue Dec 23 15:46:36 1997 From: labovit@merit.edu (Craig Labovitz) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:46:36 -0500 Subject: new tool prototypes -- routing/topology analysis Message-ID: <199712231546.KAA04910@merit.edu> Hi, We've modified some of our IPv4 routing stability/topology analysis tools for use with IPv6 and the 6Bone. The tools receive a real-time feed from our 6Bone routers (running MRTd and using the built-in statistics collection services), and display maps of AS topology, IPv6 instability during the day, and provides access to the 6Bone "default-free" routing table. See http://www.merit.edu/ipma/asexplorer/, or more generally http://www.merit.edu/ipma/tools. The tools are pretty primitive and of somewhat limited functionality. Still, some of the data is a bit interesting -- we're seeing many of the same pathological behaviors with IPv6 routing as we do with IPv4 (repeated, duplicate withdraws and announcements, frequency components, etc.) - Craig -- Craig Labovitz labovit@merit.edu Merit Network, Inc. http://www.merit.edu/~labovit 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C. (313) 764-0252 (office) Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 (313) 647-3185 (fax) From rsr@lab.net Wed Dec 24 02:02:24 1997 From: rsr@lab.net (Ryan Smith-Roberts) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:02:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mailer administrivia In-Reply-To: <199712231150.AA28749@zed.isi.edu> Message-ID: Please keep the restriction of member-only postings. -- \/\ | Ryan Smith-Roberts | finger 4 PGP /\/ | "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant \/\ | today as you were a year ago." -Bernard Berenson 51BD 5149 992E F3AC BB82 6BC9 6253 74BA 71E3 078E From dorian@blackrose.org Sat Dec 27 04:26:53 1997 From: dorian@blackrose.org (Dorian R. Kim) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:26:53 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <86256575.007B84F9.00@chi-g02.ntrs.com>; from Adam Fleming on Mon, Dec 22, 1997 at 04:35:46PM -0600 References: <86256575.007B84F9.00@chi-g02.ntrs.com> Message-ID: <19971226232653.15653@blackrose.org> On Mon, Dec 22, 1997 at 04:35:46PM -0600, Adam Fleming wrote: > > I live in Chicago, USA. According to the 6bone backbone site list, I should > hook up to either CICNET/US-IL or MREN/US-IL. How would I actually contact > the organization to request connectivity? I'd be happy to provide you with a tunnel. It's up to you between CICNET and MREN. I'd advise you to go with the one with better unicast connectivity. This is my path to you: Tracing the route to web1.ntrs.com (192.77.161.7) 1 dgf-ether3-1-0.chicago.iagnet.net (131.103.1.53) 32 msec 28 msec 52 msec 2 bordercore3-hssi0-0.WillowSprings.mci.net (166.48.33.249) 24 msec 32 msec 36 msec 3 core3.NorthRoyalton.mci.net (204.70.9.25) 28 msec 136 msec 72 msec 4 206.157.77.14 36 msec 56 msec 80 msec 5 206.157.77.11 124 msec 72 msec 64 msec 6 h14-1.t24-0.Chicago.t3.ans.net (140.223.25.29) 60 msec 72 msec 40 msec 7 f0.cnss28.Chicago.t3.ans.net (140.222.27.193) 32 msec 60 msec 52 msec 8 enss206.t3.ans.net (192.103.62.134) 56 msec 40 msec 60 msec 9 web1.ntrs.com (192.77.161.7) 68 msec 64 msec 68 msec -dorian From Adam_Fleming@notes.ntrs.com Tue Dec 30 18:59:46 1997 From: Adam_Fleming@notes.ntrs.com (Adam Fleming) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:59:46 -0600 Subject: ipv6 stack for Windows NT 4.0 Message-ID: <8625657D.0067F5C4.00@chi-g02.ntrs.com> Does anyone know of an ipv6 stack for Windows NT 4.0?