6bone partitioned?

JOIN Project Team JOIN Project Team <join@uni-muenster.de>
Wed, 23 Apr 1997 12:57:24 +0200 (MEZ)


Hi Philip,

On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Philip Blundell wrote:

> Hi guys.
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> Here's a message I just sent to the UK-6bone mailing list.  Not wanting=
 to
> point fingers of blame, but could NRL and JOIN have a look at their
> routing tables and see if all is well?=20
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> On a more positive subject, now that things are by and large fairly
> reliable and we are starting to see a fair amount of IPv6-capable mail
> software at large in the world, would there be any interest in setting =
up
> an exploder for this list so that people can actually the mail over the=
ir
> 6bone connections?=20
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> p.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:06:33 +0100 (BST)
> From: Philip Blundell <Philip.Blundell@pobox.com>
> To: Peter Curran <pcurran@ticl.co.uk>
> Cc: UK 6bone <uk6bone@scorpio.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: Connectivity
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Peter Curran wrote:
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> > I went and checked the NIST page (my normal measure of 'whats working=
')
> > and all was well.  Looking at the traceroute info there I think that
> > there is some partitioning going on for sites that are not directly o=
r
> > indirectly connected to NRL (or maybe its the other way round) - our
> > primary path is via a direct tunnel to NRL.=20
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> It certainly looks now as if there is a partitioning effect.  I suspect
> that some routes are getting lost where the backbone nodes peer with ea=
ch
> other.=20
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> This is what I get if I try to traceroute to BT-LABS (who get their
> connectivity from NRL).
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> kings-cross:~$ traceroute 5f06:d800:c171:3a00::1
> traceroute to 5f06:d800:c171:3a00::1 (5f06:d800:c171:3a00::1), 30 hops
> max, 60 byte packets
>  1  6bone-gw.lon.ip6.pipex.net (5f07:3900:9e2b:8500:0:1111:1111:1111)
> 14.777 ms !N  16.376 ms !N *
> kings-cross:~$=20
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> They apparently are up, because NIST can see them (and I imagine TICL c=
an
> too).=20

our router don=B4t get any route for 5f06:d800::/32. Normally we should g=
et
the prefix at least via RIPng from CICNET.=20

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> I checked Bob Fink's 6bone map.  With the exception of NIST (who I _can=
_
> see) all the other nodes off NRL are unreachable from here.  I get a
> similar picture in Germany; all nodes fed from JOIN are unreachable asi=
de
> from BME-FSZ.
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> A traceroute to BME gives me this:
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> kings-cross:~$ traceroute 5f09:f300:9842:4c00:4c:0:c067:7b99
> traceroute to 5f09:f300:9842:4c00:4c:0:c067:7b99
> (5f09:f300:9842:4c00:4c:0:c067:7b99), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  6bone-gw.lon.ip6.pipex.net (5f07:3900:9e2b:8500:0:1111:1111:1111)
> 21.024 ms *  12.603 ms
>  2  5f07:2b00:82e1:e700:5:3333:3333:3333
> (5f07:2b00:82e1:e700:5:3333:3333:3333)  79.197 ms *  98.866 ms
>  3  tracy.ipv6.fsz.bme.hu (5f09:f300:9842:4c00:4c:0:c067:7b99)  1007.47=
6
> ms *  630.767 ms
> kings-cross:~$
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> and a traceroute to NIST gives me this:
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> kings-cross:~$ traceroute 5f00:3100:8106:3300:0:c0:3302:5a
> traceroute to 5f00:3100:8106:3300:0:c0:3302:5a
> (5f00:3100:8106:3300:0:c0:3302:5a), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  6bone-gw.lon.ip6.pipex.net (5f07:3900:9e2b:8500:0:1111:1111:1111)
> 15.904 ms *  12.136 ms
>  2  6bone-core.ipv6.imag.fr (5f06:b500:8158:1a00:0:800:2bb9:f33d)  74.4=
00
> ms  66.592 ms  100.538 ms
>  3  luna-v6.ipv6.imag.fr (5f06:b500:8158:1a00:0:800:2075:24ea)  70.568 =
ms
> 329.833 ms  64.592 ms
>  4  ipng9.ipng.nist.gov (5f00:3100:8106:3300:0:c0:3302:5a)  245.904 ms =
*
> 482.212 ms
> kings-cross:~$=20
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> - in both cases it seems that either the 6bone map is wrong about the
> connectivity, or there are backup routes in place.

the 6bone map does not show all tunnels of transit and leaf sites. If
you refer to the ripe registry you see that NIST has also a tunnel to G6 =
-
that explains your traceroute. Your traceroute to BME goes via UNI-C
because we don=B4t have a direct tunnel to UUNET...

- Guido

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> I'll forward this to the main 6bone mailing list and see what people th=
ere
> have to say.
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> p.
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